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Title: Juan and Jake to play on European tour
Post by: tower912 on August 05, 2013, 05:58:03 PM
http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=415&f=2850&t=11751993

I apologize for posting from scout, but I couldn't find the story elsewhere.    Jake and Juan on a European junket.    Enjoy yourselves, gentlemen. 
Title: Re: Juan and Jake to play on European tour
Post by: tower912 on August 06, 2013, 08:34:11 AM
http://www.gomarquette.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/080513aaa.html

Hey, I found a link that doesn't involve scout.   
Title: Re: Juan and Jake to play on European tour
Post by: Slim on August 06, 2013, 08:48:34 AM
Was GPA a deciding factor in team selection? I understand they are both good students.
Title: Re: Juan and Jake to play on European tour
Post by: chapman on August 06, 2013, 11:54:12 AM
Quote from: Slim on August 06, 2013, 08:48:34 AM
Was GPA a deciding factor in team selection? I understand they are both good students.

Some things I wondered as well...how are the players for these events chosen?  Juan and Jake here, Jamil in Lithuania, Davante was in the running for a spot on a team earlier in the summer...I know the two of them are also good students.  Are these events becoming more common, or are our players just getting selected more?  Does the staff do some selling to try to get them selected?
Title: Re: Juan and Jake to play on European tour
Post by: augoman on August 06, 2013, 12:12:36 PM
I remember the team taking more trips together years ago, and more preseason tournaments recently.  Now it seems to be a 'farming out' of players.  While it gives them a diverse set of teammates, the 'team' cohesiveness doesn't develop.
Title: Re: Juan and Jake to play on European tour
Post by: swoopem on August 06, 2013, 12:23:54 PM
Quote from: augoman on August 06, 2013, 12:12:36 PM
I remember the team taking more trips together years ago, and more preseason tournaments recently.  Now it seems to be a 'farming out' of players.  While it gives them a diverse set of teammates, the 'team' cohesiveness doesn't develop.

Summer school isn't even in session right now so if Juan and Jake were not part of this experience they would be at home anyways, just like the rest of the guys. "Team cohesiveness" isn't effected one bit
Title: Re: Juan and Jake to play on European tour
Post by: avid1010 on August 06, 2013, 02:23:27 PM
Quote from: augoman on August 06, 2013, 12:12:36 PM
I remember the team taking more trips together years ago, and more preseason tournaments recently.  Now it seems to be a 'farming out' of players.  While it gives them a diverse set of teammates, the 'team' cohesiveness doesn't develop.
that's because tc was better at developing team cohesiveness than buzz. 
Title: Re: Juan and Jake to play on European tour
Post by: chapman on August 06, 2013, 02:51:26 PM
Quote from: augoman on August 06, 2013, 12:12:36 PM
I remember the team taking more trips together years ago, and more preseason tournaments recently.  Now it seems to be a 'farming out' of players.  While it gives them a diverse set of teammates, the 'team' cohesiveness doesn't develop.

Something I wondered last year (http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=31958.0).  It's exactly now, after the summer session and before fall classes begin that teams go on the foreign trips together.  Teams are eligible to take one every four years, but our last was to Canada in 2007. 

Last year, 60 teams took a trip:
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/blog/eye-on-college-basketball/19737959/trippin-60-division-i-teams-slated-to-take-foreignpreseason-trips

This year, at least 15 (14+1 in comments) mentioned here, including opponents NMU, UW, and Butler:
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/blog/_/name/katz_andy/id/9531939/taking-summer-tour-14-teams-college-basketball

Not sure why we aren't taking advantage of this.  Even with earlier practices and more offseason interaction with coaches, I'd think the benefit of even more free practice time, plus a trip together as a team, plus games together as a team would be too good to pass up.  And based on the schools going in first link, it can't be a budget issue for us.

It looks like this company arranges many of the trips, and lists the benefits here as well: http://www.basketballtravelers.com/college/foreign-tours/
Title: Re: Juan and Jake to play on European tour
Post by: BrewCity83 on August 06, 2013, 05:09:08 PM
Someone should ask Buzz.
Title: Re: Juan and Jake to play on European tour
Post by: Atticus on August 06, 2013, 05:19:51 PM
Quote from: BrewCity BallCrusher on August 06, 2013, 05:09:08 PM
Someone should ask Buzz.

I believe part of the problem is getting all freshmen eligible to participate. Bball players are not clearinghouse priority right now. Also, passports can be a headache and i dont believe schools can help players with the costs.

If teams cant take all of their freshman, there is less incentive to do this type of thing.
Title: Re: Juan and Jake to play on European tour
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on August 06, 2013, 05:22:54 PM
Quote from: BrewCity BallCrusher on August 06, 2013, 05:09:08 PM
Someone should ask Buzz.

With summer workouts now allowed and the local ProAm, I think these August team preseason games (like Bucky is on) are less important.  More so, Buzz has already killed the exhibition games to start the regular season and replaced them with controlled scrimmages.  Don't think he is a fan is my guess.
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