Here are your anchors for FS1 (Fox Sports One)
http://www.youtube.com/v/I8OZ_EpiHrQ
Love these guys
Quote from: RideMyBuycks on July 09, 2013, 01:09:13 PM
Love these guys
The shorter one looks and sounds like he could be the father of that guy on Workaholics, which is a very, very good thing.
Hope they make it. I really need an alternative to ESPN.
For me, ESPN is becoming like MTV. When I was a kid, MTV was everything. Then they stopped playing videos and because the place for trashy reality shows. Haven't watched in years.
I used to watch ESPN all the time. I could watch SportsCenter over and over again. Now, I only tune in when a big game is on. Can't stand the current SportsCenter, those annoying debate shows, or 95% of their "original" programming.
Occasionally, they're run a decent 30 for 30. Otherwise, no thanks.
Quote from: Groin_pull on July 09, 2013, 01:21:22 PM
Hope they make it. I really need an alternative to ESPN.
For me, ESPN is becoming like MTV. When I was a kid, MTV was everything. Then they stopped playing videos and because the place for trashy reality shows. Haven't watched in years.
I used to watch ESPN all the time. I could watch SportsCenter over and over again. Now, I only tune in when a big game is on. Can't stand the current SportsCenter, those annoying debate shows, or 95% of their "original" programming.
Occasionally, they're run a decent 30 for 30. Otherwise, no thanks.
Agree 100%
SportsCenter used to be a show containing highlights of games that happened. Now it's a show that guesses what will happen next and focuses primarily on a few specific stars and teams. Even the broadcasts leave a lot to be desired because far too often it feels like a commercial for other programming on the network.
Don't let us down, FS1! ;)
Quote from: Groin_pull on July 09, 2013, 01:21:22 PM
Hope they make it. I really need an alternative to ESPN.
For me, ESPN is becoming like MTV. When I was a kid, MTV was everything. Then they stopped playing videos and because the place for trashy reality shows. Haven't watched in years.
I used to watch ESPN all the time. I could watch SportsCenter over and over again. Now, I only tune in when a big game is on. Can't stand the current SportsCenter, those annoying debate shows, or 95% of their "original" programming.
Occasionally, they're run a decent 30 for 30. Otherwise, no thanks.
ESPN got walloped in the quarterly numbers. Came out today....absolutely walloped. Down 32% for the quarter
(http://i41.tinypic.com/mb6c8h.jpg)
Fox's entire strategy based on the meetings I went to is to be the anti-ESPN. Make sports fun again, not the "evil empire". Will be very interesting to see if they can pull it off.
Quote from: MerrittsMustache on July 09, 2013, 01:26:19 PM
Agree 100%
SportsCenter used to be a show containing highlights of games that happened. Now it's a show that guesses what will happen next and focuses primarily on a few specific stars and teams. Even the broadcasts leave a lot to be desired because far too often it feels like a commercial for other programming on the network.
Don't let us down, FS1! ;)
Exactly. I find myself tuning in only to read that scrolling bar on the bottom to find out the scores that I am looking for and then getting pissed when they cut to commercial before the score I want to see comes on.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on July 09, 2013, 01:32:26 PM
ESPN got walloped in the quarterly numbers. Came out today....absolutely walloped. Down 32% for the quarter
(http://i41.tinypic.com/mb6c8h.jpg)
Fox's entire strategy based on the meetings I went to is to be the anti-ESPN. Make sports fun again, not the "evil empire". Will be very interesting to see if they can pull it off.
It's an amazing opportunity. I'll admit that I don't watch ESPN nearly as much as I used to, but I don't have the hatred that so many people do. It's a really interesting market opportunity to have such a huge group of die hard fans that have such visceral negative feelings for the market leading competitor. I'd love to see them do well and make ESPN sweat.
It's not so much a hatred, it's just that it is so damn unwatchable. The whole "create debate" feel to it, and the incessant pounding of the same topics over and over again.... I simply don't care that much about Dwight Howard and Tim Tebow. Neither really are all that important...so stop shouting about them.
If FS1 can bring back the light-hearted, fun feel that ESPN had in the days of Patrick and Olbermann, I think it would be great!
Quote from: Terror Skink on July 09, 2013, 01:48:47 PM
It's not so much a hatred, it's just that it is so damn unwatchable.
Trust me...I know a lot of people where "hatred" is an apt description of their feelings. It sounds like your view -- "unwatchable" -- is an awful lot like mine.
The main problem with ESPN is their on air talent believes they are more entertaining than the actual highlights sports fans tune in to see.
John Buccigross quoting the Avett Bros. "Brooklyn, Brooklyn take me in" EVERYTIME he mentioned the Garnett trade. We get it John, you're cool.
Aside from SVP the channel has become unwatchable.
Quote from: StillAWarrior on July 09, 2013, 01:43:02 PM
It's an amazing opportunity. I'll admit that I don't watch ESPN nearly as much as I used to, but I don't have the hatred that so many people do. It's a really interesting market opportunity to have such a huge group of die hard fans that have such visceral negative feelings for the market leading competitor. I'd love to see them do well and make ESPN sweat.
I've always said that if you could find a way to monetize the hatred some people have of the Disney Co., you'd die richer man than Walt.
I don't mind Walt he had talent, but the narcissistic metrosexuals like Cowherder, and Greenburg are too much
Quote from: Terror Skink on July 09, 2013, 01:48:47 PM
It's not so much a hatred, it's just that it is so damn unwatchable. The whole "create debate" feel to it, and the incessant pounding of the same topics over and over again.... I simply don't care that much about Dwight Howard and Tim Tebow. Neither really are all that important...so stop shouting about them.
If FS1 can bring back the light-hearted, fun feel that ESPN had in the days of Patrick and Olbermann, I think it would be great!
The Patrick and Olbermann schtick was great early on because it was spontaneous. Even the Berman crap that is so insufferable now was entertaining early on. Then they started forcing the light hearted and funny stuff and it doesn't work that way.
Maybe we'll get lucky and Chris Berman will come to FS1.I really enjoy it when the guy doing the game runs out of breath in the middle of a sentence.
With the homerun derby coming up over/under 1,000 for Berman saying "back, back, back, back, back" in that stupid voice?
I still watch the previous night's sportcenter in bits and pieces as I start my morning, but as soon as they go to the live sportcenter, I am done. My 6 year old loves the top 10 plays and watching with him makes them fun for me again. Other than that, only if they have an event I want to watch. Never any of their discussion shows.
Quote from: cbowe3 on July 09, 2013, 02:05:19 PM
With the homerun derby coming up over/under 1,000 for Berman saying "back, back, back, back, back" in that stupid voice?
He sounds like a clucking chicken.
Quote from: BRMU23 on July 09, 2013, 02:28:06 PM
He sounds like a clucking chicken.
Surely someone at ESPN has to be smart enough to tell Berman to stop wearing black shoe polish on his head and stop the tired embarrassing act. You would think Berman himself would be smart enough to know he is embarrassing himself.
The NBC Sports Network.
These guys are awesome:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiIZpGZIKGM
Quote from: tower912 on July 09, 2013, 02:16:09 PM
I still watch the previous night's sportcenter in bits and pieces as I start my morning, but as soon as they go to the live sportcenter, I am done. My 6 year old loves the top 10 plays and watching with him makes them fun for me again. Other than that, only if they have an event I want to watch. Never any of their discussion shows.
The 8am live sportscenter is the worst show of television.
I'm serious.
FS1 can do a dress rehearsal and cover the SCION DENTAL Milwaukee Pro-Am!
Quote from: hairyworthen on July 09, 2013, 01:59:50 PM
The Patrick and Olbermann schtick was great early on because it was spontaneous. Even the Berman crap that is so insufferable now was entertaining early on. Then they started forcing the light hearted and funny stuff and it doesn't work that way.
ESPN has lost a lot of talented people over the years with so many new "sports only" channels popping up. In response, ESPN has continued to grow but, with the talent pool dwindling, they're replacing national-TV talent with small-market-weekend-sports-anchor talent. Most of the SC anchors are absolutely brutal.
Quote from: Groin_pull on July 09, 2013, 01:21:22 PM
Hope they make it. I really need an alternative to ESPN.
For me, ESPN is becoming like MTV. When I was a kid, MTV was everything. Then they stopped playing videos and because the place for trashy reality shows. Haven't watched in years.
I used to watch ESPN all the time. I could watch SportsCenter over and over again. Now, I only tune in when a big game is on. Can't stand the current SportsCenter, those annoying debate shows, or 95% of their "original" programming.
Occasionally, they're run a decent 30 for 30. Otherwise, no thanks.
NBC SN & CBS SN has some great shows!
Clay Travis joining EA on a two hour college football pre-game on FS1.
http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2013/07/08/fox-sports-bolstering-college-football-tv-coverage-pregame-show-opposite-espns-gameday-and-hiring-clay-travis/
I'm not a big fan of newscasters that make the show about themselves. Not gonna lie, I'm lukewarm on these guys.
Quote from: Groin_pull on July 09, 2013, 01:21:22 PM
Hope they make it. I really need an alternative to ESPN.
For me, ESPN is becoming like MTV. When I was a kid, MTV was everything. Then they stopped playing videos and because the place for trashy reality shows. Haven't watched in years.
I used to watch ESPN all the time. I could watch SportsCenter over and over again. Now, I only tune in when a big game is on. Can't stand the current SportsCenter, those annoying debate shows, or 95% of their "original" programming.
Occasionally, they're run a decent 30 for 30. Otherwise, no thanks.
I won't watch SportCenter anymore, I get mt scores, etc. off of CBS Sports website. ESPN makes the events about them and provides excessive coverage of their favorites. The only person at ESPN with any dignity left at this point is Bob Ley.
Quote from: Terror Skink on July 09, 2013, 01:48:47 PM
If FS1 can bring back the light-hearted, fun feel that ESPN had in the days of Patrick and Olbermann, I think it would be great!
FIFY
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on July 09, 2013, 04:27:23 PM
FIFY
Regardless of how you feel about him now, Olbermann was phenominal on Sports Center. Another one was Craig Kilborn.
Quote from: Terror Skink on July 09, 2013, 04:29:57 PM
Regardless of how you feel about him now, Olbermann was phenominal on Sports Center. Another one was Craig Kilborn.
I'll watch Olbermann anytime - whether pontificating on Sports or Politics. But I can't imagine how awful it would be to work with/for him.
Even in the last year couple years at ESPN, while they all saw him as a genius - no one (except for a few producers) wanted to work with him. And that was only cuz he did so much of their work for them.
Quote from: Terror Skink on July 09, 2013, 04:29:57 PM
Regardless of how you feel about him now, Olbermann was phenominal on Sports Center. Another one was Craig Kilborn.
I'd be fine with Olbermann. I'd like him back in sports better than as a newscaster. He's no Will McAvoy, even if he wishes he was.
Quote from: Heavy Gear on July 09, 2013, 04:26:47 PM
I won't watch SportCenter anymore, I get mt scores, etc. off of CBS Sports website. ESPN makes the events about them and provides excessive coverage of their favorites. The only person at ESPN with any dignity left at this point is Bob Ley.
As I was reading this thread and nodding in agreement with the criticisms, I said out loud: "Yeah, I wonder what a real pro like Bob Ley thinks being associated with all these clowns."
Quote from: Terror Skink on July 09, 2013, 04:29:57 PM
Regardless of how you feel about him now, Olbermann was phenominal on Sports Center. Another one was Craig Kilborn.
I've felt that way about him since he was here locally at KTLA, long before he got to ESPN. People in the industry that have had to work for or with him will vouch for that. Horrid. Wretched. As one executive producer I know at KTLA told me once, "the irony that he started the worst person of the day award should not be lost on anyone"
Agree with you on Kilborn
Quote from: brandx on July 09, 2013, 04:37:43 PM
I'll watch Olbermann anytime - whether pontificating on Sports or Politics. But I can't imagine how awful it would be to work with/for him.
The stories are legendary. Top 10 douche in the industry....I'd argue comfortably in the top 3 with very little chance of slipping.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on July 09, 2013, 05:14:14 PM
The stories are legendary. Top 10 douche in the industry....I'd argue comfortably in the top 3 with very little chance of slipping.
Don't remember who said it, but in the ESPN book the description by one of his peers was - on an intellectual, he's a genius; on a social level he's a special needs kid.
Quote from: hairyworthen on July 09, 2013, 01:59:50 PM
The Patrick and Olbermann schtick was great early on because it was spontaneous. Even the Berman crap that is so insufferable now was entertaining early on. Then they started forcing the light hearted and funny stuff and it doesn't work that way.
This
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on July 09, 2013, 01:32:26 PM
ESPN got walloped in the quarterly numbers. Came out today....absolutely walloped. Down 32% for the quarter
(http://i41.tinypic.com/mb6c8h.jpg)
Fox's entire strategy based on the meetings I went to is to be the anti-ESPN. Make sports fun again, not the "evil empire". Will be very interesting to see if they can pull it off.
CCB: In your opinion, how much (if any) of the difference was due to hockey playoffs? Looks like the only sports competitor to take a bite out of espn was NBC Sports. The rest must have been due to the many other entertainment options.
Quote from: Guns n Ammo on July 09, 2013, 02:56:55 PM
The 8am live sportscenter is the worst show of television.
I'm serious.
You obviously haven't watched first take.
Quote from: brandx on July 09, 2013, 05:36:39 PM
Don't remember who said it, but in the ESPN book the description by one of his peers was - on an intellectual, he's a genius; on a social level he's a special needs kid.
Not surprising. The guy entered Cornell at age 16....he likely had a tough time developing those skills.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on July 09, 2013, 10:21:27 PM
Not surprising. The guy entered Cornell at age 16....he likely had a tough time developing those skills.
I've known some of these types of kids. Funny thing is, often they are less intellectually gifted than their peers, but were pushed hard by parents/mentors. They end up not developing key social skills, which then puts them at a further disadvantage in the workforce.
Now then again, there are some of them that are just wicked smart.
I'm enjoying reading all these comments about how much espn sucks and how it was better in the olden days. Not that I disagree, but what we have to realize is that the incoming generation of sportsfans is still locked into ESPN and loves the programming. We are going to be hard pressed to get exposure amongst potential recruits. That's why I like these two for the anchor gigs. They have enough entertainment value to attract in the younger generation. I'm hoping they balance that with more commitment to the sports highlights that ESPN has gotten away from.
Those numbers that were posted earlier makes me optimistic. If we can break this monopoly, we will be on the ground floor of a great undertaking.
I also find the comments about getting away from sports funny when half the threads on this site end up being about the Dodgers, Whataburger, and other random tangents
Quote from: LloydMooresLegs on July 09, 2013, 06:14:42 PM
CCB: In your opinion, how much (if any) of the difference was due to hockey playoffs? Looks like the only sports competitor to take a bite out of espn was NBC Sports. The rest must have been due to the many other entertainment options.
Maybe, but remember the playoffs didn't start until May 1st (I think) and this report is for all of Q2. It certainly would help NBC but I don't think that's the entire story. If you look at the numbers, most of the channels have been pretty consistent. The exceptions are ESPN, ESPN2, NBA TV and Speed to a lesser extent. NBC had a nice jump as did MLB. More details will come out in the next week or so, certainly NHL will help but whether it was the main driver we won't know for a bit.
Quote from: Analytical Eagle on July 09, 2013, 11:21:20 PM
I'm enjoying reading all these comments about how much espn sucks and how it was better in the olden days. Not that I disagree, but what we have to realize is that the incoming generation of sportsfans is still locked into ESPN and loves the programming. We are going to be hard pressed to get exposure amongst potential recruits.
Yes...they love the programming so much that it is slipping in the ratings. I think you are exaggerating its importance.
And Olberman was already hired and fired by FOX Sports.
All this talk about how ESPN is still dominant ... has no industry monopolist ever been taken down? 30 years ago everyone had three crappy car brands. Twenty-ish years ago everyone had one crappy phone service.
Given the serious hatred many have for ESPN, it's inevitable that a market alternative will develop.
Quote from: warrior07 on July 10, 2013, 07:27:29 AM
All this talk about how ESPN is still dominant ... has no industry monopolist ever been taken down? 30 years ago everyone had three crappy car brands. Twenty-ish years ago everyone had one crappy phone service.
Their ratings are slipping even without a legitimate rival. NBC Sports tried but they cheaped out on the rights fees so they were never able to build a base of anything. I love the NHL and the Tour de France, but it's really not something you can build viewership around.
Fox knows what they are doing. They built a broadcast network from nothing...they built a cable news network from nothing. They are now going to try sports. They have some good quality football and basketball to build off of, and instead of trotting out old, staid people like Bob Costas, they are going to try to go quirky and fun.
ESPN may be dominant now, but they definitely have weaknesses. I would rather have the BE be on the forefront of something new rather than lost in the shuffle.
The FS1 rollout is timed perfectly with the NFL starting back up, which will offer the best opportunity to market the new network on Fox (i.e. national TV). And I'm assuming they do just that. Hopefully lots of football-related programming early on will pull people in and make it a go-to channel for sports fans. I'm hopeful this could really work.
Quote from: Terror Skink on July 10, 2013, 08:13:00 AM
Their ratings are slipping even without a legitimate rival. NBC Sports tried but they cheaped out on the rights fees so they were never able to build a base of anything. I love the NHL and the Tour de France, but it's really not something you can build viewership around.
Fox knows what they are doing. They built a broadcast network from nothing...they built a cable news network from nothing. They are now going to try sports. They have some good quality football and basketball to build off of, and instead of trotting out old, staid people like Bob Costas, they are going to try to go quirky and fun.
ESPN may be dominant now, but they definitely have weaknesses. I would rather have the BE be on the forefront of something new rather than lost in the shuffle.
#1 I agree with you.
#2 To be fair to ESPN, their ratings don't really have anyplace to go but down. That doesn't mean they aren't as successful or dominant, but they are at their peak, so there will be some natural variations in their viewership.
Quote from: Babybluejeans on July 10, 2013, 12:06:53 PM
The FS1 rollout is timed perfectly with the NFL starting back up, which will offer the best opportunity to market the new network on Fox (i.e. national TV). And I'm assuming they do just that. Hopefully lots of football-related programming early on will pull people in and make it a go-to channel for sports fans. I'm hopeful this could really work.
Hope they get distribution around NFL....right now, not so much.
Quote from: Terror Skink on July 10, 2013, 08:13:00 AM
Their ratings are slipping even without a legitimate rival. NBC Sports tried but they cheaped out on the rights fees so they were never able to build a base of anything. I love the NHL and the Tour de France, but it's really not something you can build viewership around.
How did NBC drop the Ball they are picking up the premiere league(aka the EPL)? They paid 250 Million to the premiere league for a three year deal. Fox soccer is getting rolled into that new sporting network because they lost out on soccer to NBC. They recognized a good thing and didn't drop anything while cutting out ESPN from showing games.
Quote from: thatman32 on July 10, 2013, 12:39:15 PM
How did NBC drop the Ball they are picking up the premiere league(aka the EPL)? They paid 250 Million to the premiere league for a three year deal. Fox soccer is getting rolled into that new sporting network because they lost out on soccer to NBC. They recognized a good thing and didn't drop anything while cutting out ESPN from showing games.
Couple things.
First, they picked up the EPL well after they lost out on rights to a number of other properties including a number of college conference football packages.
Second, at this point in its life, EPL is very much a niche sport in the US. I watch it regularly, but it doesn't draw huge ratings. Like the Tour de France, you can't build a viewership on niche sports.
To be fair Espn was a good vehicle for the BE and Marquette.
Their massive and wide ranging coverage has been a great asset for MU and to me that would hard to deny. Sometimes our wishes and dreams of grandeur are far greater than reality. Espn has been great for MU.
As far as espn------yes I agree that they have attempted to gear their programming toward the hip and cutting edge and I agree with some posters that they have become too much like mtv.
There is a massive amount of competition now-----not only from new cable and regional cable networks, but from online streaming. Sometimes I think espn competes against itself by the rapid growth of espn3 online----I think they are actually siphoning viewers away from espn cable.
I think maybe abc and espn would be better off away from the Disney umbrella-----my opinion is that maybe espn might regain some of the zeal and zest if they are sold.
Quote from: jefffla01 on July 10, 2013, 01:11:45 PM
I think maybe abc and espn would be better off away from the Disney umbrella-----my opinion is that maybe espn might regain some of the zeal and zest if they are sold.
Probably true, but would never happen. ESPN is Disney's most valuable asset. They aren't letting it go anytime soon.
Quote from: MUCrew on July 09, 2013, 02:48:03 PM
These guys are awesome:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiIZpGZIKGM
No NHL games on Thursday because of... American Thanksgiving, or as we in Canada like to call American Thanksgiving... Thursday.
Quote from: Babybluejeans on July 10, 2013, 12:06:53 PM
The FS1 rollout is timed perfectly with the NFL starting back up, which will offer the best opportunity to market the new network on Fox (i.e. national TV). And I'm assuming they do just that. Hopefully lots of football-related programming early on will pull people in and make it a go-to channel for sports fans. I'm hopeful this could really work.
And pro football will be in full swing when the college basketball season starts.
Quote from: LittleMurs on July 10, 2013, 01:57:05 PM
And pro football will be in full swing when the college basketball season starts.
What's the over/under on the number of promos for the NYE Big East Conference Kick-Off (feat. Marquette vs. Creighton) during the Bears/Packers game on Jan 29th? My guess is five - once per quarter plus one shameless plug by JB during the half.
Here's hoping that Davante and McDermott get more face time than Frank Caliendo on Week 17.
Quote from: Benny B on July 10, 2013, 05:05:54 PM
What's the over/under on the number of promos for the NYE Big East Conference Kick-Off (feat. Marquette vs. Creighton) during the Bears/Packers game on Jan 29th? My guess is five - once per quarter plus one shameless plug by JB during the half.
Here's hoping that Davante and McDermott get more face time than Frank Caliendo on Week 17.
I assume you mean December 29....Hopefully, at that point both teams are ranked. If that's the case I think they will be promoting it very hard.
Quote from: Bleuteaux on July 11, 2013, 09:45:17 AM
I assume you mean December 29....Hopefully, at that point both teams are ranked. If that's the case I think they will be promoting it very hard.
Not to mention the carpet bombing of ads during the NFC playoffs.
Oh, and Fox has the Super Bowl this year, too.
Quote from: Bleuteaux on July 11, 2013, 09:45:17 AM
I assume you mean December 29....Hopefully, at that point both teams are ranked. If that's the case I think they will be promoting it very hard.
Yep... my mistake. And I too would hope both teams are ranked in the Top 15 by that point (I say that even though I'm surprised that MU is expected to enter the season ranked somewhere in the teens despite the departure of Vander).
Quote from: Guns n Ammo on July 09, 2013, 02:56:55 PM
The 8am live sportscenter is the worst show of television.
I'm serious.
Just to revisit this quickly:
Look at the "topics" they are discussing. WHAT. THE. unnatural carnal knowledge.
(http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18tnd993d4evtjpg/k-bigpic.jpg)
Quote from: Guns n Ammo on July 12, 2013, 11:08:53 AM
Just to revisit this quickly:
Look at the "topics" they are discussing. WHAT. THE. unnatural carnal knowledge.
(http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18tnd993d4evtjpg/k-bigpic.jpg)
"The Worst of the Worst"
I've got to agree, ESPN has become more and more annoying, but I guess I am missing something in the ratings. Yes, they are down from last year - but - it doesn't seem as if anyone else is really gaining on them - they still have the most viewers, especially if you add in those from the deuce.
I agree with everything negative everyone here has said about ESPN, but it is still my go-to default channel when nothing else is on, or when I want to watch sports. I imagine this is true for about 90% of guys and it will be hard for FS1 or NBCSports or anyone else to change that mentality. Its just what happens after basically 30 years of a monopoly on sports cable programming.
Quote from: Bleuteaux on July 12, 2013, 03:31:45 PM
I agree with everything negative everyone here has said about ESPN, but it is still my go-to default channel when nothing else is on, or when I want to watch sports. I imagine this is true for about 90% of guys and it will be hard for FS1 or NBCSports or anyone else to change that mentality. Its just what happens after basically 30 years of a monopoly on sports cable programming.
Let's not forget that they earned their way to the top and weren't always that way. In 1979 people laughed when they launched. Their content was brutal, production was brutal....but they persevered and built on it. They got to be the WWL because of many successful moves as well as some not so great moves by their competitors. It's a tough business, for someone to do as well as they have for as long as they have is almost unheard of in that business.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on July 12, 2013, 06:51:51 PM
Let's not forget that they earned their way to the top and weren't always that way. In 1979 people laughed when they launched. Their content was brutal, production was brutal....but they persevered and built on it. They got to be the WWL because of many successful moves as well as some not so great moves by their competitors. It's a tough business, for someone to do as well as they have for as long as they have is almost unheard of in that business.
Founded simply to televise Hartford Whalers games.
Looks like they just released the 90 second commercial that will air tomorrow....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Q9aUGrlgzU0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Q9aUGrlgzU0)
Quote from: Jet915 on July 15, 2013, 11:34:08 AM
Looks like they just released the 90 second commercial that will air tomorrow....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Q9aUGrlgzU0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Q9aUGrlgzU0)
Pretty nice. I wish they'd have given MU some love, but I guess I can understand why they're focusing on Georgetown and St. John's for the ad. I really hope they do this right and challenge ESPN.
They'll do their part. I just hope the BEAST does its part.
Olbermann coming back to ESPN....I've had a field day with my peers over there today. LOL. No one claiming credit and a lot of running for cover. As I told one of them, if you're bringing back Olbermann do you plan on bringing back Limbaugh as well?
Speaking of FS1, they announced today they'll have a daily futbol studio show, cleverly entitled Fox Soccer Daily.
http://msn.foxsports.com/foxsoccer/world/story/fox-soccer-daily-set-to-air-on-fox-sports-1-august-19-news-highlights-analysis-program-071713
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on July 17, 2013, 01:38:20 PM
Olbermann coming back to ESPN....I've had a field day with my peers over there today. LOL. No one claiming credit and a lot of running for cover. As I told one of them, if you're bringing back Olbermann do you plan on bringing back Limbaugh as well?
I'll be watching. Guarantee you he has a bigger audience than Regis Philbin.
Quote from: Bleuteaux on July 17, 2013, 04:22:31 PM
I'll be watching. Guarantee you he has a bigger audience than Regis Philbin.
He might...if I see him tonight at the ESPY's I might have to trip him, however.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on July 17, 2013, 01:38:20 PM
Olbermann coming back to ESPN....I've had a field day with my peers over there today. LOL. No one claiming credit and a lot of running for cover. As I told one of them, if you're bringing back Olbermann do you plan on bringing back Limbaugh as well?
Didn't realize Keith used Sports Center to espouse his political views. An intelligent man is able to separate the two.
Quote from: brandx on July 17, 2013, 04:53:04 PM
Didn't realize Keith used Sports Center to espouse his political views. An intelligent man is able to separate the two.
He's not coming back to Sports Center, he's coming back to host a show....which Skipper (ESPN Pres.) admitted today will allow him to espouse his political views.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on July 17, 2013, 04:57:34 PM
He's not coming back to Sports Center, he's coming back to host a show....which Skipper (ESPN Pres.) admitted today will allow him to espouse his political views.
I saw what Skipper said, but this isn't going to be a show about politics. If politics does comes up, I believe it will only be peripherally. If the show eventually blows up, it will be Keith's own doing in dealing with the higher ups in Bristol and not his political views.
But... controversy sells - so who knows what we can expect.
Quote from: brandx on July 18, 2013, 12:30:51 AM
I saw what Skipper said, but this isn't going to be a show about politics. If politics does comes up, I believe it will only be peripherally. If the show eventually blows up, it will be Keith's own doing in dealing with the higher ups in Bristol and not his political views.
But... controversy sells - so who knows what we can expect.
His political views are the cause of his blowing up.
Quote from: brandx on July 18, 2013, 12:30:51 AM
I saw what Skipper said, but this isn't going to be a show about politics. If politics does comes up, I believe it will only be peripherally. If the show eventually blows up, it will be Keith's own doing in dealing with the higher ups in Bristol and not his political views.
But... controversy sells - so who knows what we can expect.
Because that's what ESPN has been lacking, a show that is only sort of about current sports and is mostly about pontificating.
Quote from: warrior07 on July 18, 2013, 07:40:57 AM
His political views are the cause of his blowing up.
No, him being an intolerable a--hole to everyone around him, including his would-be allies, were the cause of his blowing up.
Quote from: Pakuni on July 18, 2013, 09:02:20 AM
No, him being an intolerable a--hole to everyone around him, including his would-be allies, were the cause of his blowing up.
This. Political leaning has no effect. KO has been an pretty boy since the moon landing.
Long Bloomberg story on the launch of FS1:
http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2013-07-18/fox-sports-1s-strategy-vs-dot-espn-jockularity#r=hp-ls
Quote from: Pakuni on July 18, 2013, 09:02:20 AM
No, him being an intolerable a--hole to everyone around him, including his would-be allies, were the cause of his blowing up.
This. Oberman is an intolerable a--hole on all fronts, not just politics. He used to give out a weekly "Worst Person in the World" award (or something like that). Maybe the most egregious pot/kettle example of all time, one that wasn't lost on his co-workers.
"Have Keith spend a few seasons working at you television network and see how you feel. Sort of like Kansas after a twister. He long ago established himself as a living, fire-breathing force of nature, not only on the air, where his brains and style are his meal ticket, but also off the air, where he bedevils and infuriates many a manager or co-worker who runs afoul of his biblical-size wrath. If he wasn't so brilliant and talented, few of those managers would have put up with him."
--- from ESPN the book
There is little doubt that he will wear out his welcome again, but I don't think it will be because he decides to talk about politics.
I think it will probably happen if there are too many criticisms about the sports that are ESPN's meal ticket.
"I read that the Fox guys think happy days are here again and I'm happy that happy days are here again for them. Sorry they were not happy before because the days at ESPN have been happy for quite some time and this is another happy day for ESPN."
-– ESPN President John Skipper, referencing the recent promo for Fox Sports 1 while announcing Keith Olbermann's new show on ESPN2.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on July 18, 2013, 12:21:29 PM
"I read that the Fox guys think happy days are here again and I'm happy that happy days are here again for them. Sorry they were not happy before because the days at ESPN have been happy for quite some time and this is another happy day for ESPN."
-– ESPN President John Skipper, referencing the recent promo for Fox Sports 1 while announcing Keith Olbermann's new show on ESPN2.
.... says the guy looking at a 32-percent ratings drop.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on July 18, 2013, 12:21:29 PM
"I read that the Fox guys think happy days are here again and I'm happy that happy days are here again for them. Sorry they were not happy before because the days at ESPN have been happy for quite some time and this is another happy day for ESPN."
-– ESPN President John Skipper, referencing the recent promo for Fox Sports 1 while announcing Keith Olbermann's new show on ESPN2.
Says the guy who also said the following not more than a few weeks prior:
"We are at the end of it. We had not for a long time looked at our organization with an eye toward making sure that our resources, our people, our money was spent against things that make a difference. The world's a little different. There's really 10 distribution deals to do now, and they're long-term, so we consolidated some of our affiliate sales functions. We closed the Denver office; we quit doing 3D. So we eliminated a bunch of jobs."
Oh.... he meant "happy" for the people that still have their jobs.
Quote from: Benny B on July 18, 2013, 03:09:17 PM
Says the guy who also said the following not more than a few weeks prior:
"We are at the end of it. We had not for a long time looked at our organization with an eye toward making sure that our resources, our people, our money was spent against things that make a difference. The world's a little different. There's really 10 distribution deals to do now, and they're long-term, so we consolidated some of our affiliate sales functions. We closed the Denver office; we quit doing 3D. So we eliminated a bunch of jobs."
Oh.... he meant "happy" for the people that still have their jobs.
Oh, man, how did I miss that connection. I'm sure the hundreds of ESPN staffers Skipper laid off less than two months ago totally agree that "the days at ESPN have been happy for quite some time."
Good catch, Benny.
no more ESPN 3D? I guess I didn't even notice that on my DirecTV, it was pretty hard to watch more than 1/2 a game whenever I gave it a try anyway :)
Quote from: Pakuni on July 18, 2013, 03:23:02 PM
Oh, man, how did I miss that connection. I'm sure the hundreds of ESPN staffers Skipper laid off less than two months ago totally agree that "the days at ESPN have been happy for quite some time."
Good catch, Benny.
There's nothing like some old-fashioned, Chico-brand schlock to get Pakuni and I to agree on something. Except maybe the schlock I was peddling earlier that got Chicos and Keefe to agree on something. Call me impressed that the Scoop server is still online after two logic bombs like that within a few hours of each other.
I wonder if getting Hards and Chicos to team up on a political agenda would be enough to blow up the server.
Quote from: brandx on July 18, 2013, 12:30:51 AM
I saw what Skipper said, but this isn't going to be a show about politics. If politics does comes up, I believe it will only be peripherally. If the show eventually blows up, it will be Keith's own doing in dealing with the higher ups in Bristol and not his political views.
But... controversy sells - so who knows what we can expect.
We shall see....the same was said about Keith's role at NBC and he wasn't able to contain it. The one advantage he'll have is this is a separate show where people will tune in or not because of it. When he was doing his crap at halftime of the NBC Sunday Night game it was part of the game broadcast (albeit at halftime) and that got a lot of people pissed off who simply wanted to watch the game.
For the first time in a long time I felt a little trepidation from the ESPN guys last night. I've been teasing them about this K.O. thing all week and they admitted part of it was to grab some buzz due to FS1 buzz that has been generated. I got the sense that most of them don't think the show will do very well, but it gets people talking. I was just glad to see he wasn't forced on everyone last night as a presenter and that no one went into Martin vs Zimmerman stuff last night. It needed to be free of that stuff last night and it was...thankfully.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on July 18, 2013, 05:35:07 PM
We shall see....the same was said about Keith's role at NBC and he wasn't able to contain it. The one advantage he'll have is this is a separate show where people will tune in or not because of it. When he was doing his crap at halftime of the NBC Sunday Night game it was part of the game broadcast (albeit at halftime) and that got a lot of people pissed off who simply wanted to watch the game.
For the first time in a long time I felt a little trepidation from the ESPN guys last night. I've been teasing them about this K.O. thing all week and they admitted part of it was to grab some buzz due to FS1 buzz that has been generated. I got the sense that most of them don't think the show will do very well, but it gets people talking. I was just glad to see he wasn't forced on everyone last night as a presenter and that no one went into Martin vs Zimmerman stuff last night. It needed to be free of that stuff last night and it was...thankfully.
You seem to infer that KO is a one-trick pony. People need to separate the MSNBC Olbermann from the sportscaster Olbermann.
I certainly wouldn't mind the political stuff now and again (since I agree with much of what he says), but I really don't expect much from that arena and would rather that he avoided it. He was more than just Dan Patrick's partner on SC - his standalone pieces were usually outstanding, as well.
And yes, my first reaction was that this was partially in response to FS1.