So where is Buzz going the next month on his recruiting trails? Is he just watching Stone or his next priority for 2014? Who would that be? Sandy Cohen who is a nice prospect is not
exactly what they need? They already have 10 high major recruits for 2014, one or two might be enough??
Quote from: BCHoopster on July 01, 2013, 05:08:29 PM
So where is Buzz going the next month on his recruiting trails? Is he just watching Stone or his next priority for 2014? Who would that be? Sandy Cohen who is a nice prospect is not
exactly what they need? They already have 10 high major recruits for 2014, one or two might be enough??
This post is so all over the place.
My guess is he'll follow Diamond Stone everywhere. He won't worry about anything else.
Yes, he should leave no Stone unturned!
Quote from: wadesworld on July 01, 2013, 05:26:40 PM
My guess is he'll follow Diamond Stone everywhere. He won't worry about anything else.
He's not going to put all his eggs in one basket.
Quote from: BCHoopster on July 01, 2013, 05:08:29 PM
So where is Buzz going the next month on his recruiting trails? Is he just watching Stone or his next priority for 2014? Who would that be? Sandy Cohen who is a nice prospect is not
exactly what they need?
I would be surprised if Cohen isn't a Warrior when all is said and done.
Stone is 2015.....Buzz will certainly spend time watching him but we have 3 more spots open for 2014 which will be his first priority.
Quote from: MU82 on July 01, 2013, 07:19:21 PM
Yes, he should leave no Stone unturned!
A rolling stone gathers no Buzz
Quote from: keefe on July 01, 2013, 08:00:14 PM
A rolling stone gathers no Buzz
Recruits read these threads. Now, we have no chance at Stone!
Quote from: Terror Skink on July 01, 2013, 07:22:20 PM
He's not going to put all his eggs in one basket.
I would be surprised if Cohen isn't a Warrior when all is said and done.
(I was being sarcastic. If there's one thing I know it's that nobody outworks him on the recruiting trail. He's not stopping for 1 recruit)
He and the assistants will be a million places.. Buzz specifically.. would think he'll make visits to the Peach Jam (1st weekend)... not sure if Diamond is going play with a 16U team at Peach Jam this year?... I think his MKE Young Legends team gone be in... the Quon that same weekend (i.e., not this coming weekend but the one after). They'll hit up the adidas Invitational in Indy I'm sure...
Second weekend there are some Midwest joints.. the 'Quon for Summer Jam; Best Buy Summer Classic in Bloomington, Minn. hosted by Henry's D1 Minnesota team... they'll stop out for that one..
Third weekend.. Florida and VEGAS!!!! Many tourneys that final evaluation week/end in Vegas... Fab 48, adidas super 64, Big Foot Hoops/LV Classic..
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Wow, time flies. As of today I think I'll be at the Best Buy Summer Classic and then running all over Vegas again for a few days later this month.
Quote from: LittleMurs on July 01, 2013, 08:05:34 PM
Recruits read these threads. Now, we have no chance at Stone!
If Stone is as good as they say he is, I'd doubt he'd come to MU. This kid is a one-and-done player on the fast track to the NBA. I've read repeatedly that Buzz doesn't like one-and-done players and doesn't really like to play freshman. I guess he feels he can convince Stone to stay multiple years and develop his craft. I think he goes to a Kentucky, UNC, Duke, Kansas, etc. Somewhere freshmen are known to get big time PT and shine. I'm not saying I hope we don't get him, I saying I don't think we'll get him.
Quote from: keefe on July 01, 2013, 08:00:14 PM
A rolling stone gathers no Buzz
Everybody must get Stone(d)
Quote from: moomoo on July 02, 2013, 07:11:00 AM
Everybody must get Stone(d)
Buzz needs to get at it like a RhineStone Cowboy.
Quote from: JakeBarnes on July 02, 2013, 07:16:22 AM
Buzz needs to get at it like a RhineStone Cowboy.
Stone cold sober
Quote from: JakeBarnes on July 02, 2013, 07:16:22 AM
Buzz needs to get at it like a RhineStone Cowboy.
The song could have been about recruiting:
"Getting cards and letters from people I don't even know
And offers coming over the phone"
Quote from: Lennys Tap on July 03, 2013, 01:14:25 PM
The song could have been about recruiting:
"Getting cards and letters from people I don't even know
And offers coming over the phone"
Lenny
Glenn Campbell was something of a cliché but his cover of Jimmy Webb's Wichita Lineman was one of the most achingly existential songs ever recorded. For anyone who has driven Route 66 the pathos, isolation, and stark tedium of an unchanging moonscape is perfectly calibrated by the numbing staccato rhythm of high tension towers and telephone poles spaced in perfect cadence. That nameless, faceless people find love and meaning in such barren circumstances is poignant tribute to the dignity of the human spirit.
Quote from: keefe on July 03, 2013, 01:39:16 PM
Lenny
Glenn Campbell was something of a cliché but his cover of Jimmy Webb's Wichita Lineman was one of the most achingly existential songs ever recorded. For anyone who has driven Route 66 the pathos, isolation, and stark tedium of an unchanging moonscape is perfectly calibrated by the numbing staccato rhythm of high tension towers and telephone poles spaced in perfect cadence. That nameless, faceless people find love and meaning in such barren circumstances is poignant tribute to the dignity of the human spirit.
This reads exactly like a Patrick Bateman music review/solilioquy
fantastic
Quote from: Jajuannaman on July 03, 2013, 02:07:11 PM
This reads exactly like a Patrick Bateman music review/solilioquy
Or a macabre super ego-fueled, demonic ritual killing by Patrick Bateman, the trasnsgressive, neo-apocalyptical anti-hero in
American Psycho
The comments made herein are another example of summer boredom with people writing about their feelings which have nothing to do with the subject.
Quote from: keefe on July 03, 2013, 11:19:15 PM
Or a macabre super ego-fueled, demonic ritual killing by Patrick Bateman, the trasnsgressive, neo-apocalyptical anti-hero in American Psycho
Urinal cakes, anybody?
Quote from: keefe on July 03, 2013, 01:39:16 PM
Lenny
Glenn Campbell was something of a cliché but his cover of Jimmy Webb's Wichita Lineman was one of the most achingly existential songs ever recorded. For anyone who has driven Route 66 the pathos, isolation, and stark tedium of an unchanging moonscape is perfectly calibrated by the numbing staccato rhythm of high tension towers and telephone poles spaced in perfect cadence. That nameless, faceless people find love and meaning in such barren circumstances is poignant tribute to the dignity of the human spirit.
Missed this post earlier, Crash, but your review is dead on as usual. Moving song of a dutiful "Everyman" going about his business through boredom,loneliness and fickle Mother Nature. Maybe Webb's best effort. Campbell's, too.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on July 09, 2013, 09:11:41 PM
Missed this post earlier, Crash, but your review is dead on as usual. Moving song of a dutiful "Everyman" going about his business through boredom,loneliness and fickle Mother Nature. Maybe Webb's best effort. Campbell's, too.
The best acoustic rendition I heard of Webb's classic was by Pat Metheny here in Seattle. He played a baritone 6 string with Larry Grenadier accompanying on bass. It was hauntingly beautiful. Anyone who has driven from Enid to Wichita Falls has felt that hollow anguish.
Quote from: Sunbelt15 on July 02, 2013, 06:49:55 AM
I've read repeatedly that Buzz doesn't like one-and-done players and doesn't really like to play freshman.
I'm curious where you've seen this. If freshmen are ready, Buzz will play them. Look at Blue and Mayo. And I don't believe for a second Buzz will pass on a kid strictly because he's a likely one-and-done. Coaches may not like the one-and-done rule, but no one is going to pass on a kid who can potentially be the difference between an Elite 8 and a national championship.
MU with some interest in 2014 G JP Macura (http://latenighthoops.com/%EF%BB%BFrecruiting-2014-j-p-macura/)
A traditional ;D
Quote from: newsdrms on July 11, 2013, 02:43:10 PM
A traditional ;D
You mean white, but it sure looks like he has some hops!
Can you say that here?
Quote from: Sunbelt15 on July 02, 2013, 06:49:55 AM
If Stone is as good as they say he is, I'd doubt he'd come to MU. This kid is a one-and-done player on the fast track to the NBA. I've read repeatedly that Buzz doesn't like one-and-done players and doesn't really like to play freshman.
No coach likes the one-and-done concept.
And no coach would pass on Carmelo Anthony, Greg Oden, Derrick Rose or Andrew Wiggins.
Yes, I feel confident saying that 100% of the coaches in America would gladly accept a bona fide one-and-done in his program.
Why can't people just stick to basketball and not fly away on dumb ridiculous topics.
Quote from: muwar2003 on July 11, 2013, 07:55:55 PM
Why can't people just stick to basketball and not fly away on dumb ridiculous topics.
Because there's not a whole lot of basketball being played between the first week of April and the end of November. In fact, teams don't even practice for a large majority of that period of time.
So I guess, mods, "shut it down" from April until November.
Quote from: muwar2003 on July 11, 2013, 07:55:55 PM
Why can't people just stick to basketball and not fly away on dumb ridiculous topics.
Yeah, we need more discussion/pictures of Kate Upton.
Pictures, yes. What's there to discuss?
What! Kate Upton is going to play basketball for MU?
Quote from: 4everwarriors on July 11, 2013, 09:00:50 PM
Pictures, yes. What's there to discuss?
She's ugly and malnourished!
Quote from: 4everwarriors on July 11, 2013, 09:00:50 PM
Pictures, yes. What's there to discuss?
(http://pdxretro.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/george-gobel-milk-ad.jpg)
Wow, George Gobel had serious hops. Who'd have known?
Quote from: keefe on July 12, 2013, 08:46:41 AM
(http://pdxretro.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/george-gobel-milk-ad.jpg)
Buzz in South Carolina this morning; caught 2015 PG target Jarvis Johnson having a big game for Howard Pulley. Notes on Johnson, MU: Recruiting: 2015 PG Jarvis Johnson (http://latenighthoops.com/2015-jjohnson-0713/)
Not MU related, but Big East related. Providence landed Jalen Lindsey ESPN top 100
http://zagsblog.com/providence/jalen-lindsey-to-providence/
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/117566/jalen-lindsey
Since this is about recruiting------ SANDY COHEN had Tyus Jones for lunch recently. Jones is No. 1 PG.
COHEN is a switchable. COHEN is 6-5, AND CAN PLAY THE POINT and has a GOOD SHOT. What are we waiting for?
I don't think Buzz is waiting on anything with Cohen, he made the offer, the ball is in Cohen's court now.
Quote from: Earl Tatum on July 19, 2013, 12:20:39 PM
Since this is about recruiting------ SANDY COHEN had Tyus Jones for lunch recently. Jones is No. 1 PG.
COHEN is a switchable. COHEN is 6-5, AND CAN PLAY THE POINT and has a GOOD SHOT. What are we waiting for?
We are waiting for Sandy to feel like he's thought things through enough and not just going with his childhood team without consideration of his options.
Quote from: Earl Tatum on July 19, 2013, 12:20:39 PM
Since this is about recruiting------ SANDY COHEN had Tyus Jones for lunch recently. Jones is No. 1 PG.
COHEN is a switchable. COHEN is 6-5, AND CAN PLAY THE POINT and has a GOOD SHOT. What are we waiting for?
Be patient. Cohen is taking his time. Nothing to worry about.
Quote from: Earl Tatum on July 19, 2013, 12:20:39 PM
Since this is about recruiting------ SANDY COHEN had Tyus Jones for lunch recently. Jones is No. 1 PG.
COHEN is a switchable. COHEN is 6-5, AND CAN PLAY THE POINT and has a GOOD SHOT. What are we waiting for?
lol
I can see Cohen going to Minnesota. I think* they'd probably like Tyus even more, though.
Quote from: AWegrzyn17 on July 19, 2013, 12:25:22 PM
We are waiting for Sandy to feel like he's thought things through enough and not just going with his childhood team without consideration of his options.
Yep. I remember reading somewhere that Cohen promised his AAU coach that he would go to at least one other official visit besides Marquette before committing anywhere. Give him some time to test the waters and he will commit. I don't see another school sweeping him off his feet
With Harris and Cohen on board, who do y'all think will be next to commit?
A center or a big PF has to be next, every other position is spoken for. MU ranked #9 on CBS 24/7 website, moved up 20 spots with Cohens commit.
My dream: Goodluck and Ahmed Hill
My prediction: Sean O'Mara and a JUCO I haven't heard of yet
Quote from: Analytical Eagle on July 30, 2013, 10:21:22 PM
My dream: Goodluck and Ahmed Hill
My prediction: Sean O'Mara and a JUCO I haven't heard of yet
Any of those 3 visiting, that is the first step? Or a home visit scheduled?
Quote from: Rockmic87 on July 30, 2013, 08:30:27 PM
With Harris and Cohen on board, who do y'all think will be next to commit?
I'll give it a try;
Tory Miller or Jabari Craig.
Quote from: Analytical Eagle on July 30, 2013, 10:21:22 PM
My dream: Goodluck and Ahmed Hill
My prediction: Sean O'Mara and a JUCO I haven't heard of yet
Goodluck isn't coming to Marquette. I haven't heard anything to suggest we're not still in the mix for Ahmed Hill, though.
Like you said, Sean O'Meara, Trevon Bunch or Jonathon Wilkins in the middle next year.
Read a wrapup of the Adidas tournament - 2014's they mentioned included Chandler Diekvoss (Way De Pere) and a Milwaukee kid from Hamilton, David Burrell. Both are 6'6". 15's they liked included Henry Ellenson, and mentioned Marshawn Wilson (MN) as being a great defender. I know Ellenson's been talked about on this board, but I hadn't heard of the others. Anyone know if MU has any interest?
Quote from: I don't care on July 31, 2013, 09:19:32 AM
Goodluck isn't coming to Marquette. I haven't heard anything to suggest we're not still in the mix for Ahmed Hill, though.
Hill's stock has fallen quite a bit this summer, which could play to our favor in landing him if Buzz still believes the talent is there that had him rated as a top-25 by most services just a few months back.
I'm expecting us to add a shooter and a big. Hill isn't necessarily a pure shooter, but he is a scorer. LaChance and Holston are other guys we seem to be looking at as possibilities for that slot.
In the middle, it's tough to say. The dream name is obviously Myles Turner, but he probably blew up too early for us to realistically hope for him. Goodluck, Lattin, O'Mara, and Bunch are all guys we've been mentioned with, but it's hard to tell how much interest there is on either side in any of those recruitments. Not sure we're being really considered by either Okonoboh or Lattin, and not sure we're really interested in O'Mara or Bunch. Possible Buzz will let McKay and Taylor man the position for a year and take a switchable like Shayok instead.
Quote from: brewcity77 on July 31, 2013, 04:52:57 PM
Hill's stock has fallen quite a bit this summer, which could play to our favor in landing him if Buzz still believes the talent is there that had him rated as a top-25 by most services just a few months back.
I'm expecting us to add a shooter and a big. Hill isn't necessarily a pure shooter, but he is a scorer. LaChance and Holston are other guys we seem to be looking at as possibilities for that slot.
In the middle, it's tough to say. The dream name is obviously Myles Turner, but he probably blew up too early for us to realistically hope for him. Goodluck, Lattin, O'Mara, and Bunch are all guys we've been mentioned with, but it's hard to tell how much interest there is on either side in any of those recruitments. Not sure we're being really considered by either Okonoboh or Lattin, and not sure we're really interested in O'Mara or Bunch. Possible Buzz will let McKay and Taylor man the position for a year and take a switchable like Shayok instead.
I would be amazed if a big does not pick MU, starts right away with really no back-up.
Quote from: mileskishnish72 on July 31, 2013, 01:03:19 PM
Read a wrapup of the Adidas tournament - 2014's they mentioned included Chandler Diekvoss (Way De Pere) and a Milwaukee kid from Hamilton, David Burrell. Both are 6'6". 15's they liked included Henry Ellenson, and mentioned Marshawn Wilson (MN) as being a great defender. I know Ellenson's been talked about on this board, but I hadn't heard of the others. Anyone know if MU has any interest?
Burrell is a tough kid. Real aggressive and can get grimy. I like watching him play, but MM is probably the right level for him.
Marshawn I really like. Combo guard, great build, can attack the rim well. Uncanny leaping abilities. If you go to Late Night Hoops (http://latenighthoops.com/?s=marshawn+wilson) there are some articles with comments on him from this summer will come up.
He was recently at the Badgers camp.. Bo and Greg Gard watched his team a lot, but Henry is on the same team.
Diekvoss plays for WI Playground Warriors 17's (one level up from Nick N.).. nice player, see him as a MM though. Good passer, shooter. ** Committed to Richmond
Sean O'Mara cut his list to six schools today and Marquette isn't one of them:
Loyola, Seton Hall, UMass, Wake Forest, Wichita St, Xavier
Quote from: I don't care on August 05, 2013, 11:39:38 AM
Sean O'Mara cut his list to six schools today and Marquette isn't one of them:
Loyola, Seton Hall, UMass, Wake Forest, Wichita St, Xavier
Take a look at that list and you can see why MU wasn't showing much interest.
Quote from: Terror Skink on August 05, 2013, 11:44:22 AM
Take a look at that list and you can see why MU wasn't showing much interest.
Looks like some pretty good names in there to me.
Quote from: Terror Skink on August 05, 2013, 11:44:22 AM
Take a look at that list and you can see why MU wasn't showing much interest.
+1
Yeah, it looks like the Pupu platter http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pu_pu_platter
Quote from: Jamil_toMU10 on August 05, 2013, 12:05:54 PM
Looks like some pretty good names in there to me.
I guess. They aren't Marquette peers at this point in time.
I do not know a ton about him but with how Few true PF's or Center's we have gotten over the years and how few HM's exist at that postion I think I would take him and if all he grows into is a rotation player his Jr and Sr year that is OK. Better to have a 6-9 240 Lb guy on the Roster then playing Hayward and Crowder at center like we have in the past. If you load up on to many guards and wings they are going to leave for a lack of playing time, Or for playing out of Postion. IMO
Over the years I have always looked at Mid Major Bigs that would have grown into Servicable HM's and think if we had a few more of those guys on the Roster we would be a Top 10 instead of top 25 team. This year is the exception of course, But it feels like we are going back to small ball after 2013/14.
A guy Like Chris Grimm comes to mind. Was he a great player? No but it was great to have him on the Roster his JR and SR year.
His list looks a hell of a lot better then Gardner's when he verbaled to us.....
Can't always go by the "list"...especially with bigs since they are such a crap shoot.
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/blog/eye-on-college-basketball/22952279/myles-turner-stakes-claim-as-biggest-riser-of-the-summer
Quote from: muhoops1 on August 06, 2013, 11:39:49 AM
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/blog/eye-on-college-basketball/22952279/myles-turner-stakes-claim-as-biggest-riser-of-the-summer
Were we in on Myles early?
Quote from: ATWizJr on August 06, 2013, 12:07:04 PM
Were we in on Myles early?
A ton of programs globbed onto him in April. MU was one of them. It was 'early' in the spring / summer season, but lots of schools joined the party at the same time.
Quote from: MuMark on August 06, 2013, 11:37:08 AM
His list looks a hell of a lot better then Gardner's when he verbaled to us.....
Can't always go by the "list"...especially with bigs since they are such a crap shoot.
Those are two different points really.
We are not getting Myles. Its one thing to go against a 1-2 BLue Bloods like when we went to against Kansas with Joel Embiid its another to go against everyone of them and think we can get him.
My point would be if you brought in a Gardner or Omara type player every year you would always have a servicable Big on the roster. The other option is to only recruit one of the top 75 ranked Bigs and miss on them each year and end up with no Big PF's or Center's on the Roster which is where we are at for next year.
Turner cut his list to 8.....MU is out.
Usual suspects plus Texas and OK State
Per Adam Zagoria, 2014 Rivals #38 Terry Larrier has cut his list to 10. Making the cut are Penn State, Marquette, Minnesota, UConn, Florida State, Miami, St. John's, VCU, Florida, and Seton Hall. Glad to see us listed, though still some heavy competition in there. Larrier is a 6'8" forward and his AAU coach feels he can play anywhere from 2-4 at the college level. Sounds like a perfect Buzz switchable.
Quote from: brewcity77 on August 08, 2013, 07:28:50 AM
Per Adam Zagoria, 2014 Rivals #38 Terry Larrier has cut his list to 10. Making the cut are Penn State, Marquette, Minnesota, UConn, Florida State, Miami, St. John's, VCU, Florida, and Seton Hall. Glad to see us listed, though still some heavy competition in there. Larrier is a 6'8" forward and his AAU coach feels he can play anywhere from 2-4 at the college level. Sounds like a perfect Buzz switchable.
Interesting, up until now Marquette hasn't really been mentioned with him at all.
Quote from: brewcity77 on August 08, 2013, 07:28:50 AM
Per Adam Zagoria, 2014 Rivals #38 Terry Larrier has cut his list to 10. Making the cut are Penn State, Marquette, Minnesota, UConn, Florida State, Miami, St. John's, VCU, Florida, and Seton Hall. Glad to see us listed, though still some heavy competition in there. Larrier is a 6'8" forward and his AAU coach feels he can play anywhere from 2-4 at the college level. Sounds like a perfect Buzz switchable.
Heavy competition but the only school I would consider above us is Florida. Everyone else is at our level or lower. Still gonna be a hard fight
Quote from: Analytical Eagle on August 08, 2013, 10:00:08 AM
Heavy competition but the only school I would consider above us is Florida. Everyone else is at our level or lower. Still gonna be a hard fight
UConn?
Quote from: Atticus on August 08, 2013, 10:04:28 AM
UConn?
What about them? All their success was under Calhoun. I'll believe in them when Ollie has won a few games of his own.
Quote from: brewcity77 on August 08, 2013, 07:28:50 AM
Per Adam Zagoria, 2014 Rivals #38 Terry Larrier has cut his list to 10. Making the cut are Penn State, Marquette, Minnesota, UConn, Florida State, Miami, St. John's, VCU, Florida, and Seton Hall. Glad to see us listed, though still some heavy competition in there. Larrier is a 6'8" forward and his AAU coach feels he can play anywhere from 2-4 at the college level. Sounds like a perfect Buzz switchable.
I guess now we know where Buzz, et. al. were when they weren't going after O'Mara.
Quote from: LittleMurs on August 08, 2013, 12:39:08 PM
I guess now we know where Buzz, et. al. were when they weren't going after O'Mara.
Larrier is nothing like O'Mara. Zero. O'Mara is a "big" interior type.. 5/4. Larrier is a long, thin switchable.. 3 that can probably hop up or down one. Can block shots with his length and athleticism, but not a dude that can
bang down low.
Nonetheless, I think Larrier's visits for now are focused way to the south... MU is actually probably a good place for him if he wants to work. But, he's absolutely not a guy who would help MU's needs for some physicality underneath the hoop.
Per DaveTelep on twitter
Larrier has four lock visits: Florida, VCU, Miami, Florida State. Must like the Sunshine a little!
Quote from: Schmidtyfactor on August 08, 2013, 01:19:28 PM
Per DaveTelep on twitter
Larrier has four lock visits: Florida, VCU, Miami, Florida State. Must like the Sunshine a little!
Then again, Bernard Toone took a visit to Hawaii. Hawaii eventually got smarter about who they gave official visits to.
Quote from: Jay Bee on August 08, 2013, 01:18:58 PM
Larrier is nothing like O'Mara. Zero. O'Mara is a "big" interior type.. 5/4. Larrier is a long, thin switchable.. 3 that can probably hop up or down one. Can block shots with his length and athleticism, but not a dude that can bang down low.
Nonetheless, I think Larrier's visits for now are focused way to the south... MU is actually probably a good place for him if he wants to work. But, he's absolutely not a guy who would help MU's needs for some physicality underneath the hoop.
I didn't say that he was. Just that you can't be watching two different games at the same time, and evidently MU has been watching some of Larrier's games.
never mind just gonna get hate
Quote from: GoldenBoy16 on August 08, 2013, 08:27:37 PM
never mind just gonna get hate
Don't need him because chris otule will still be here as starting center.
Damnit you edited it out :(
s
Quote from: GoldenBoy16 on August 08, 2013, 08:41:20 PM
Its good news about Diamond Stone. My prediction is in my signature. ;)
I'm going to go out on a limb here and predict that you don't teach English at Dominican.
Thanks for the information, its truly fantastic news.
Quote from: LittleMurs on August 08, 2013, 10:18:47 PM
I'm going to go out on a limb here and predict that you don't teach English at Dominican.
Thanks for the information, its truly fantastic news.
Can't tell if that is sarcasm or not, but whatever.
Quote from: GoldenBoy16 on August 08, 2013, 08:27:37 PM
never mind just gonna get hate
That doesn't change your signature.
My guess is if this is true, your super-secret source probably didn't tell you this so you could spill it all over an Internet message board.
Quote from: LittleMurs on August 08, 2013, 10:18:47 PM
I'm going to go out on a limb here and predict that you don't teach English at Dominican.
Thanks for the information, its truly fantastic news.
too funny, Murs.
Quote from: brewcity77 on August 09, 2013, 06:55:09 AM
That doesn't change your signature.
My guess is if this is true, your super-secret source probably didn't tell you this so you could spill it all over an Internet message board.
Brew of course it's true--- it's an almost 100% guarantee. You can't do much better than that! I'm sold.
Goldenboy any idea when he plans on making his decision?
Quote from: GoldenBoy16 on August 09, 2013, 01:03:41 AM
Can't tell if that is sarcasm or not, but whatever.
That was in reference to a kenoshawarrior post -
Quote from: KenoshaWarrior on June 27, 2013, 08:59:45 AM
His english teacher is a huge Marquette fan, not a Madison fan.
. Supposedly the teacher told him Stone was going to commit to UW.
Thats why I never post on this board. If someone has something to say, you guys just hate and then make fun of them.
Quote from: GoldenBoy16 on August 09, 2013, 02:02:28 PM
Thats why I never post on this board. If someone has something to say, you guys just hate and then make fun of them.
This is true. Also people are bored and don't deal well with a rumor season that is largely conjecture rather than hard evidence. I mean, I consider it a good offseason now that we know which Sandy Cohen we are talking about.
Quote from: GoldenBoy16 on August 09, 2013, 02:02:28 PM
Thats why I never post on this board. If someone has something to say, you guys just hate and then make fun of them.
All good man, you know what you know and hopefully it's true. For Diamond's sake, (and Buzz' efforts too), maybe keep it under wraps for now then post the most epic "I told you so" since Brew if/when it does happen.
Goldenboy16, yeah, there is a lot of sarcasm on this board. May your source be correct and may you come back talking pages of smack.
Quote from: tower912 on August 09, 2013, 03:41:45 PM
Goldenboy16, yeah, there is a lot of sarcasm on this board. May your source be correct and may you come back talking pages of smack.
+1. If Diamond commits, come back here and crow.
Quote from: GoldenBoy16 on August 09, 2013, 02:02:28 PM
Thats why I never post on this board. If someone has something to say, you guys just hate and then make fun of them.
You're putting an incredibly bold statement out there with no supporting information. Under the circumstance, it comes across like Kristy Swanson in Ferris Bueller's Day Off. How did you expect people react to the "Guys, I have the greatest news ever, but I can't tell you where I heard it or give any verification or prove it's true, but it is" type of statement?
He is Diamond Stone. Idiots.
Oh man, if I was a big time recruit I would totally troll the crap out of messages boards like this one.
Quote from: wadesworld on August 09, 2013, 04:08:46 PM
He is Diamond Stone. Idiots.
Pretty sure GoldenBoy posted his name in his first ever post on this board...it wasn't Diamond Stone ;)
Quote from: brewcity77 on August 09, 2013, 04:39:31 PM
Pretty sure GoldenBoy posted his name in his first ever post on this board...it wasn't Diamond Stone ;)
He's playing us man!
Quote from: wadesworld on August 09, 2013, 04:51:08 PM
He's playing us man!
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Quote from: LittleMurs on August 08, 2013, 10:18:47 PM
I'm going to go out on a limb here and predict that you don't teach English at Dominican.
Thanks for the information, its truly fantastic news.
Well played.
Goldenboy, you gotta understand some people's skepticism, what with internet trolls and Badger fans on here spreading rumors.
There was the rumor that Aki warned of 'severe' infractions bout to happen at MU. Clearly false. Then there was the rumor that Vander Blue would declare for the draft a couple days actually prior to him declaring, thus turning out to be true.
By the way, anybody got that picture that that Vander-is-declaring-early poster promised? I don't wanna see it or anything, just wondering if that guy kept his promise lol
Quote from: GoldenBoy16 on August 09, 2013, 02:02:28 PM
Thats why I never post on this board. If someone has something to say, you guys just hate and then make fun of them.
I was thinking that you clue into the second sentence where I said;
"Thanks for the information, its truly fantastic news."
Once again, thanks. I'm choosing to believe.
Even if Stone committed today, it is to soon to be sure he is coming.
Quote from: newsdrms on August 09, 2013, 09:17:13 AM
That was in reference to a kenoshawarrior post -. Supposedly the teacher told him Stone was going to commit to UW.
not true. The teacher said he was a UW lean not a commit
Quote from: KenoshaWarrior on August 10, 2013, 12:42:01 PM
not true. The teacher said he was a UW lean not a commit
Leaning in boredom is all he would be doing in the UW offense.
Am I the only one who realizes that we desperately need some Jucos? The classes are extremely unbalanced. We graduate 4 this year and 5 next year then will only have 1 senior.
Given the way players transfer, I do not think balancing classes is that important.
Quote from: bilsu on August 11, 2013, 12:07:40 PM
Given the way players transfer, I do not think balancing classes is that important.
5 years go ago, Buzz and Tony and Aki made comments about the importance of balancing classes quite often. Not hearing that any more from the staff.
Quote from: bilsu on August 11, 2013, 12:07:40 PM
Given the way players transfer, I do not think balancing classes is that important.
The way players transfer today, I think that balancing classes becomes more important than ever. The 8 scholarship players that will graduate over the next two seasons in Boxer's scenario are the least likely to transfer. If there are no transfers over the next 2 years, that puts a maximum of 5 upperclassmen on the 2015-2016 team. If 1 to 2 freshman or sophomores per year continue to transfer out, that could wittle it down to 2 to 3 upperclassmen for 2015-2016. On average, it's safe to say that teams with a majority of juniors and seniors will perform better than teams with a majority of freshman and sophomores, so without infusion of juco's or transfers in the next 2 years, we'll likely be very young in 2015-2016, and possibly less successful.
Quote from: BagpipingBoxer on August 11, 2013, 11:45:02 AM
Am I the only one who realizes that we desperately need some Jucos? The classes are extremely unbalanced. We graduate 4 this year and 5 next year then will only have 1 senior.
But MU will have four juniors the year they have one senior.
I see nothing wrong on taking a juco, if he can play. I just do not think you look to take a juco to balance the classes. You always recruit the best talent.
Quote from: Terror Skink on August 11, 2013, 03:35:15 PM
But MU will have four juniors the year they have one senior.
There's a huge difference between seniors and juniors though compare jimmy butler Jr and senior, or Jae Crowder.
Quote from: BagpipingBoxer on August 11, 2013, 07:43:21 PM
There's a huge difference between seniors and juniors though compare jimmy butler Jr and senior, or Jae Crowder.
So you want to get Jucos because you think that seniors>>>>>>>>>>juniors???
Talented juniors>>>>>>>>>>>less talented seniors.
Quote from: BagpipingBoxer on August 11, 2013, 07:43:21 PM
There's a huge difference between seniors and juniors though compare jimmy butler Jr and senior, or Jae Crowder.
There can be a big difference between an individual player's junior year and senior year (though generally the FR to So year is the big jump... Butler & Jae of course not 4-yr D-I players though). But, the more important comparison to be made when deciding on players to recruit isn't about their year vs. the year of other players... it's is about them as bball players vs. other players.
Quote from: Jay Bee on August 11, 2013, 08:58:27 PM
There can be a big difference between an individual player's junior year and senior year (though generally the FR to So year is the big jump... Butler & Jae of course not 4-yr D-I players though). But, the more important comparison to be made when deciding on players to recruit isn't about their year vs. the year of other players... it's is about them as bball players vs. other players.
Agreed. Sometimes when one looks at the more esoteric considerations, one can lose sight of the fundamental criteria.
Quote from: Jay Bee on August 11, 2013, 08:58:27 PM
There can be a big difference between an individual player's junior year and senior year (though generally the FR to So year is the big jump... Butler & Jae of course not 4-yr D-I players though). But, the more important comparison to be made when deciding on players to recruit isn't about their year vs. the year of other players... it's is about them as bball players vs. other players.
Ok, but traditionally Buzz relies on seniors to carry the team at least as long as I've been an MU fan/student (08-09) so I have trouble believing that just Steve Taylor could carry us that year unless somehow he becomes Lazar Hayward reincarnate.
He will not have seniors to fall back on in 2015-2016, but his 4 freshman will be juniors then and MU will be fine. Wilson, Johnson, Burton and Taylor look solid, add Diamond Stone and
you have your starting 5 in 2 years. Throw in Cohen, Harris and Dawson and that is a sold 8 man rotation. Still leaves MU with 5 scholarship opportunities so you have to think more talent
will be coming in the future. I still think Buzz will find a big for next year.
Quote from: BCHoopster on August 12, 2013, 09:54:35 AM
He will not have seniors to fall back on in 2015-2016, but his 4 freshman will be juniors then and MU will be fine. Wilson, Johnson, Burton and Taylor look solid, add Diamond Stone and
you have your starting 5 in 2 years. Throw in Cohen, Harris and Dawson and that is a sold 8 man rotation. Still leaves MU with 5 scholarship opportunities so you have to think more talent
will be coming in the future. I still think Buzz will find a big for next year.
You forgot Nick Noskowiak. And if we don't have a big next year I think we'll be fine with Jameel playing center and Steve Taylor playing PF
Quote from: BagpipingBoxer on August 12, 2013, 10:02:03 AM
You forgot Nick Noskowiak. And if we don't have a big next year I think we'll be fine with Jameel playing center and Steve Taylor playing PF
That leaves 4 openings, forgot about Nick as it is 2 years away, no way that Jameel plays center, he is more of a 3 than even a 4. Runs the floor really well, no bulk. Steve Taylor might
be your center in 2 years. Taylor, McKay and Burton will not be that bad. Johnson or Mayo and Wilson, will be very talented anyway you look at it.
Quote from: BCHoopster on August 12, 2013, 10:10:46 AM
That leaves 4 openings, forgot about Nick as it is 2 years away, no way that Jameel plays center, he is more of a 3 than even a 4.
I can pretty much guaranty that Jameel sees significant time in the post in 2014-15. In fact he is the likely starter since the only other options would be a freshman or a transfer of some sort.
And he isn't a three. He doesn't have the outside game for that.
On a related note, MU target Quadri Moore has narrowed his final 3 to Cincinnati, Seton Hall, and Miami.
Quote from: Terror Skink on August 12, 2013, 10:14:03 AM
I can pretty much guaranty that Jameel sees significant time in the post in 2014-15. In fact he is the likely starter since the only other options would be a freshman or a transfer of some sort.
And he isn't a three. He doesn't have the outside game for that.
His body is more like a 3, he does play inside but right now he is awful skinny to defend in the post. Can play zone to off-set size. Offensively you can play wide open like Kentucky does.
Quote from: BCHoopster on August 12, 2013, 11:03:34 AM
His body is more like a 3, he does play inside but right now he is awful skinny to defend in the post. Can play zone to off-set size. Offensively you can play wide open like Kentucky does.
Buzz would never play open like that, think of our star players recently Lazar, Jimmy, Crowder, all undersized post players. Lazar and Jimmy both had to bulk up and I see Jameel the same way. (Though more like Jimmy than the Lazar/Crowder type player). I Agree he is pretty skinny Which is why I'd expect more of a double 4 type situation as opposed to putting either Steve or Jameel as an undersized Center.
Barring any other additions, I think Taylor is more likely to play center than Mckay is.
Quote from: bilsu on August 12, 2013, 11:50:47 AM
Barring any other additions, I think Taylor is more likely to play center than Mckay is.
Yep, and Steve says he is up to 6-9 now.
Quote from: Nukem2 on August 12, 2013, 01:43:35 PM
Yep, and Steve says he is up to 6-9 now.
Wow! 6'9" with a smooth stroke will be tough for teams to defend :)
Did he tweet that recently?
anyone know when 2014 juco rankings start to come out?
Quote from: dpucane on August 14, 2013, 07:04:32 PM
anyone know when 2014 juco rankings start to come out?
in 2014?
Quote from: dpucane on August 14, 2013, 07:04:32 PM
anyone know when 2014 juco rankings start to come out?
I'm hoping soon so that I am able to determine who is a good player and who is not.
Another big visiting in October.....http://247sports.com/Player/Tory-Miller-21598
Quote from: MuMark on August 16, 2013, 08:30:56 PM
Another big visiting in October.....http://247sports.com/Player/Tory-Miller-21598
6'8" 260, Humm, Tony, I'd like you to meet Davante Gardner.
Quote from: LittleMurs on August 17, 2013, 12:40:09 AM
6'8" 260, Humm, Tony, I'd like you to meet Davante Gardner.
I don't think he's quite that heavy anymore. Reclassed to 2014 and prepped last year in New Hampshire (KC kid). This summer (I last saw him a few weeks ago in Vegas) his build looks much stronger than it did a year ago.
I'd guess he's around 245, but whatever the weight, the big thing is he looks a lot more like a mean, physical tight end than an offensive lineman. There are a lot of players with size these days, but Miller stands out as a guy you say "that's a big fricken dude" about when you're standing by him.
Doesn't have some of the skills of other 4's, but he shouldn't have a problem mixing it up down low on day one in college.
Quote from: MuMark on August 16, 2013, 08:30:56 PM
Another big visiting in October.....http://247sports.com/Player/Tory-Miller-21598
Good timing. That's Marquette Madness.
Miller has been brought up here before:
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=35657.0
Question: On The Marquette Basketball Recruiting Front Page
under Prospects Year 2014, Two names interest me-
Khadeem Lattin 6-9 from Houston and Quentin Snider 6-1 PG
Louisville Ky. Lattin is a 4-star. Any info on recruiting them.
Snider:
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=39385.0
Lattin:
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=39047.0
I will be surprised if we get Lattin. (Lammers has been ranked above Lattin by some sources in Texas.) I will be very, very surprised if we get Snider.
http://scouthoops.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=8&c=1&nid=6111916
Kaleb Joseph, an MU target committed to the Cuse.
Was hoping he'd head to MU but Cuse was always his dream school. Happy for Kaleb. Great kid.
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We were never going to get Kaleb Joseph. His top three were Cuse, WVU, and Providence.
Quote from: Earl Tatum on August 17, 2013, 04:40:22 PM
Question: On The Marquette Basketball Recruiting Front Page
under Prospects Year 2014, Two names interest me-
Khadeem Lattin 6-9 from Houston and Quentin Snider 6-1 PG
Louisville Ky. Lattin is a 4-star. Any info on recruiting them.
Basically what Skink said. Pretty sure we are no longer in on either of them.
For those who were worried about Buzz recruiting bigs, he said on twitter that 4's and 5's always wanna be 2s and 3's... so now he's gonna recruit 6's and 7's. He is a trailblazer.
Quote from: JakeBarnes on August 18, 2013, 10:37:00 AM
For those who were worried about Buzz recruiting bigs, he said on twitter that 4's and 5's always wanna be 2s and 3's... so now he's gonna recruit 6's and 7's. He is a trailblazer.
I think Otule is the only player on our team that does not want to play point guard.
Quote from: JakeBarnes on August 18, 2013, 10:37:00 AM
For those who were worried about Buzz recruiting bigs, he said on twitter that 4's and 5's always wanna be 2s and 3's... so now he's gonna recruit 6's and 7's. He is a trailblazer.
Saw that tweet...hilarious stuff, one more reason I'm glad Buzz is on Twitter.
The truth is that Buzz has not recruited very many bigs. Is he uncomfortable recruiting bigs and/or coaching them? This is a big question and may be the difference in MU winning the NCAA.
uh oh.
Quote from: Stretchdeltsig on August 18, 2013, 08:10:25 PM
The truth is that Buzz has not recruited very many bigs. Is he uncomfortable recruiting bigs and/or coaching them? This is a big question and may be the difference in MU winning the NCAA.
Roseboro, Otule, Mbao, Gardner, Durley, McMorrow..... It would be fair to say that he has not had a high percentage of success with the bigs he has signed, but to say that he has not 'recruited very many bigs' is simply false. Heck, he was in on McGarry first, before Mitch blew up.
The good news is that he has shown himself to be a good enough coach that he can win with the talent he has on hand. If it is true that STjr has grown to 6'9, or that McKay has grown to 6'10, as has been mentioned in other threads, then MU has a decent amount of height, even after this year. If Buzz lands the kid from SA Tex, MU will have enough size.
Quote from: Stretchdeltsig on August 18, 2013, 08:10:25 PM
The truth is that Buzz has not recruited very many bigs. Is he uncomfortable recruiting bigs and/or coaching them? This is a big question and may be the difference in MU winning the NCAA.
Hmm...not sure I'd agree with this...
2009: Buzz got in late and took a flier on Mbao.
2010: Buzz signed Gardner. Buzz also made a strong run at Carson Desrosiers, Gorgui Dieng, Luke Cothron, Tarik Black, and tried to land Kevin Noreen late.
2011: Tried to land Keith Coleman, Joseph Uchebo, and Jarnell Stokes, but it was the late run at Quincy Miller that had people most excited (albeit briefly). Lost out on all of the above.
2012: Landed combo forward Steve Taylor, but missed on quite a few. Shaquille Cleare, Anthony Bennett, Mitch McGary, Philip Nolan, Blaise Mbargorba, Zach Auguste, and Matt Wilms all seemed to have legitimate interested in Marquette before going elsewhere. Really tough year with lots of swings and almost all misses.
2013: Landed #2 JUCO player in the nation, PF Jameel McKay. Also went after Kyle Washington, Johnathan Williams III, and Johnathan Motley. Then there was of course the courtship of Joel Embiid...who really, really, really should have been ours.
2014: Malek Harris will likely play the 3/4 role in our system. We showed interest but are now probably out of it for guys like Paul White, Myles Turner, Goodluck Okonoboh, Khadeem Lattin, Sean O'Mara, Reid Travis, and Quadri Moore for various reasons. We still seem to be actively recruiting Ben Lammers, Tory Miller (both have visits scheduled), and Jabari Craig. It wouldn't surprise me if Buzz has another name or two that haven't been publicized either among the high school or JUCO ranks.
2015: We have been among the most visible programs in pursuit of Diamond Stone and Henry Ellenson.
While Buzz hasn't landed a ton of bigs, it hasn't been for lack of effort. We were close to landing a bunch of these guys. Some blew up too soon, some Marquette shied away from, some were on the verge of committing here and didn't for various reasons. All you can do is keep going after the best bigs you can get. I am confident Buzz is doing that, though anything less than landing every target won't be enough for some people (not suggesting you are one of those).
MU didn't miss on Nolan...they passed.
If we define "bigs" as 4/5 then Paul White doesn't qualify(I believe Mu's interest in him was over the minute Harris verbaled and quite possibly before.)
good stuff brewcity. Buzz is doing all he can to land a couple bigs. The fact is he is a great recruiter and he wins a lot of games.
Quote from: MuMark on August 18, 2013, 09:40:11 PM
MU didn't miss on Nolan...they passed.
If we define "bigs" as 4/5 then Paul White doesn't qualify(I believe Mu's interest in him was over the minute Harris verbaled and quite possibly before.)
We passed on quite a few other names on my lists as well, but I didn't really differentiate. White and Harris both project as 3/4 types at the collegiate level, will depend on how they grow and how the staffs want to use them. Pretty sure we had decided to take a pass on White well before Harris' commit.
Quote from: brewcity77 on August 18, 2013, 10:42:31 PM
We passed on quite a few other names on my lists as well, but I didn't really differentiate. White and Harris both project as 3/4 types at the collegiate level, will depend on how they grow and how the staffs want to use them. Pretty sure we had decided to take a pass on White well before Harris' commit.
A nit pick. Figuring out that his chances of landing a player have dropped to the point that Buzz decides to concentrate his resources elsewhere isn't how I'd describe "passed on". Did Buzz "pass on" Kevon Looney?
Quote from: LittleMurs on August 18, 2013, 10:59:54 PM
A nit pick. Figuring out that his chances of landing a player have dropped to the point that Buzz decides to concentrate his resources elsewhere isn't how I'd describe "passed on". Did Buzz "pass on" Kevon Looney?
Wasn't referring to Looney. Buzz didn't pass on Looney, he stopped pursuing when it became evident he was headed out of state. But just as players move on because they aren't interested in Marquette, Marquette moves on because they aren't interested in a player, whether because of attitude, grades, or simply that they aren't good enough.