Strong rumor that Steve is included in a package going to Toronto.
Quote from: Groin_pull on June 30, 2013, 06:02:09 PM
Strong rumor that Steve is included in a package going to Toronto.
Bummer I was hoping Steve would have a shot at a championship with the Knicks
Supposedly it's Novak, Camby and three draft picks for Bargnani.
That would be a loss. Novak is a crowd favorite in NYC. There is a lot of equity having him playing in the Garden. Toronto is a different platform.
That's too bad. Toronto is a great city...but they have an awful basketball team.
http://nba.si.com/2013/06/30/andrea-bargnani-trade-new-york-knicks-toronto-raptors-marcus-camby-steve-novak/?sct=hp_t2_a7&eref=sihp
"The Raptors have agreed to trade Andrea Bargnani to the Knicks, according to multiple reports.
The New York Times reports Sunday that the Raptors will part with the much-maligned Bargnani in exchange for a Knicks package that includes Marcus Camby, Steve Novak and a 2016 first-round pick. Yahoo! Sports also reported the agreement Sunday, noting that two future second-round picks will also go from New York to Toronto.
Bargnani, 27, averaged 12.7 points and 3.7 rebounds in 35 appearances last season, missing time with an elbow injury. The No. 1 overall pick in the 2006 draft is on the books for $10.8 million next season and holds a $11.5 million option for 2014-15.
Camby, 39, averaged 1.8 points and 3.3 rebounds in 24 appearances for the Knicks last season. One of the oldest players in the NBA, Camby will make $4.4 million in 2013-14 and $4.2 million in 2014-15, although only $1 million of that figure is guaranteed.
Novak, 30, averaged 6.6 points and 1.9 rebounds in 81 appearances for the Knicks last season. A three-point shooting specialist, Novak signed a four-year, $15 million contract last summer that is fully guaranteed."
Quote from: BagpipingBoxer on June 30, 2013, 06:21:17 PM
Bummer I was hoping Steve would have a shot at a championship with the Knicks
What are you smoking? The Knicks have no chance at a Championship. Heat, Bulls, Pacers and now the Nets will surpass them.
Quote from: mosarsour on June 30, 2013, 06:56:08 PM
That's too bad. Toronto is a great city...but they have an awful basketball team.
http://nba.si.com/2013/06/30/andrea-bargnani-trade-new-york-knicks-toronto-raptors-marcus-camby-steve-novak/?sct=hp_t2_a7&eref=sihp
"The Raptors have agreed to trade Andrea Bargnani to the Knicks, according to multiple reports.
The New York Times reports Sunday that the Raptors will part with the much-maligned Bargnani in exchange for a Knicks package that includes Marcus Camby, Steve Novak and a 2016 first-round pick. Yahoo! Sports also reported the agreement Sunday, noting that two future second-round picks will also go from New York to Toronto.
Bargnani, 27, averaged 12.7 points and 3.7 rebounds in 35 appearances last season, missing time with an elbow injury. The No. 1 overall pick in the 2006 draft is on the books for $10.8 million next season and holds a $11.5 million option for 2014-15.
Camby, 39, averaged 1.8 points and 3.3 rebounds in 24 appearances for the Knicks last season. One of the oldest players in the NBA, Camby will make $4.4 million in 2013-14 and $4.2 million in 2014-15, although only $1 million of that figure is guaranteed.
Novak, 30, averaged 6.6 points and 1.9 rebounds in 81 appearances for the Knicks last season. A three-point shooting specialist, Novak signed a four-year, $15 million contract last summer that is fully guaranteed."
Toronto is nice in a bland, inoffensive way. I much prefer the audacious impertinence of Montreal. Grace Kelly was beautiful but you knew you would have a far better time with Isabelle Adjani
Quote from: willie warrior on June 30, 2013, 06:58:54 PM
What are you smoking? The Knicks have no chance at a Championship. Heat, Bulls, Pacers and now the Nets will surpass them.
The nets? Who have a coach who won't be respected by Garnett and Pierce, and are really poorly run will not surpass them. I agree about the Bulls, the heat already passed them, but they managed to come from the lowest seed to the two seed this year it shows some development. And as far as smoking goes I'm going with the Bill Clinton defense and saying that I did not inhale
Basketball purgatory.
Quote from: jtbh6b1 on June 30, 2013, 10:45:35 PM
Basketball purgatory.
No, that'd be the other basketball tenant at the Bradley Center besides MU. We have NBA purgatory in our own back yard.
Marquette draws better than the Bucks; it's a shame we don't get priority with the facility over that joke of a NBA "franchise."
Quote from: BagpipingBoxer on June 30, 2013, 08:57:25 PM
The nets? Who have a coach who won't be respected by Garnett and Pierce, and are really poorly run will not surpass them. I agree about the Bulls, the heat already passed them, but they managed to come from the lowest seed to the two seed this year it shows some development. And as far as smoking goes I'm going with the Bill Clinton defense and saying that I did not inhale
I luke the Bill Clinton defense, except when he is handling cigars. I disagree with you on the Nets--they did get better for a year or two which is what they sought. Kidd will be respected by Garnett--don't know about Pierce.
Quote from: BagpipingBoxer on June 30, 2013, 08:57:25 PM
The nets? Who have a coach who won't be respected by Garnett and Pierce, and are really poorly run will not surpass them. I agree about the Bulls, the heat already passed them, but they managed to come from the lowest seed to the two seed this year it shows some development. And as far as smoking goes I'm going with the Bill Clinton defense and saying that I did not inhale
If they don't respect him, I hope we find their old, washed up a$$es on the end of the bench. Carmelo needs a quality #2 guy, bad! A 20 point, 10 rebound or assist type of player with solid defense. Don't know if anyone like that is available except for CP3 and he says he's going nowhere.
Quote from: keefe on June 30, 2013, 07:10:02 PM
Toronto is nice in a bland, inoffensive way. I much prefer the audacious impertinence of Montreal. Grace Kelly was beautiful but you knew you would have a far better time with Isabelle Adjani
5 years ago i would have called you crazy...today, maybe, but i still love the diversity of toronto.
Novak was glued to the Knicks bench the last 3 months of the year. Excited to see Steve get on the floor more.
Quote from: Captain Awesome on June 30, 2013, 10:59:30 PM
No, that'd be the other basketball tenant at the Bradley Center besides MU. We have NBA purgatory in our own back yard.
Marquette draws better than the Bucks; it's a shame we don't get priority with the facility over that joke of a NBA "franchise."
That's a silly comment.
The Bucks bring in more fans. They play 41 home dates. Yes, the Bucks have been in NBA purgatory the last 10 plus years, but that team has had success. There are only a handful of teams that have a better winning percentage in their history than the Bucks. Marquette is more important perhaps in your eyes and in the eyes of people who frequent this site, but the Bucks have a much greater impact on the city than MU
I hope he eventually gets traded to the Warriors.
Novak. Warrior.
Quote from: hairyworthen on July 01, 2013, 08:25:58 AM
That's a silly comment.
The Bucks bring in more fans. They play 41 home dates. Yes, the Bucks have been in NBA purgatory the last 10 plus years, but that team has had success. There are only a handful of teams that have a better winning percentage in their history than the Bucks. Marquette is more important perhaps in your eyes and in the eyes of people who frequent this site, but the Bucks have a much greater impact on the city than MU
Marquette averages 103 more fans a game according to the figures released by the NBA and ncaa
Quote from: BagpipingBoxer on July 01, 2013, 09:20:59 AM
Marquette averages 103 more fans a game according to the figures released by the NBA and ncaa
Marquette played 16 homes games, the Bucks played 45. Without the Bucks, there is no BC. It is very unlikely Milwaukee could sustain an NBA quality arena without the 43+ home dates the Bucks guarantee.
Quote from: BagpipingBoxer on July 01, 2013, 09:20:59 AM
Marquette averages 103 more fans a game according to the figures released by the NBA and ncaa
I think his point is more about the 41 home games compared to what, 16-18 home games for MU? So yes, they bring in more fans as they are a much more regular tenant. Though when was the last time the Bucks really did have success? That's the problem with an NBA team in a smaller market. You have to get one of those stars (which are harder to attract to smaller markets) or there really is no point. Getting to the playoffs and 40 wins is not success in my eyes. Always thought the Bucks should just trade the NBA team for an NHL team somewhere. Never made sense how there is no NHL in Milwaukee, but there is in Tampa, Miami, Raleigh, Nashville, and Phoenix.
Quote from: Captain Awesome on June 30, 2013, 10:59:30 PM
No, that'd be the other basketball tenant at the Bradley Center besides MU. We have NBA purgatory in our own back yard.
Marquette draws better than the Bucks; it's a shame we don't get priority with the facility over that joke of a NBA "franchise."
Avg ticket price, 41 home dates, etc....it will never happen
Quote from: The Lens on July 01, 2013, 09:29:04 AM
Marquette played 16 homes games, the Bucks played 45. Without the Bucks, there is no BC. It is very unlikely Milwaukee could sustain an NBA quality arena without the 43+ home dates the Bucks guarantee.
Of course they could. Kansas City built their fancy Sprint Center in hopes of landing an NHL or NBA team and it is one of the most active venues in the country. Hell, the city is probably not even going to chase after the Phoenix team for supposedly what it would take to bring them (tax incentives, all revenue from concessions and other fees, etc) and because of the growing sentiment in the city that getting such a regular, dominating tenant would reduce the Center's flexibility in drawing other events.
Quote from: Aughnanure on July 01, 2013, 09:35:39 AM
I think his point is more about the 41 home games compared to what, 16-18 home games for MU? So yes, they bring in more fans as they are a much more regular tenant. Though when was the last time the Bucks really did have success? That's the problem with an NBA team in a smaller market. You have to get one of those stars (which are harder to attract to smaller markets) or there really is no point. Getting to the playoffs and 40 wins is not success in my eyes. Always thought the Bucks should just trade the NBA team for an NHL team somewhere. Never made sense how there is no NHL in Milwaukee, but there is in Tampa, Miami, Raleigh, Nashville, and Phoenix.
Don't get me started on the NHL in the above locations!
Quote from: avid1010 on July 01, 2013, 06:27:10 AM
5 years ago i would have called you crazy...today, maybe, but i still love the diversity of toronto.
Toronto does have a lot of first gen immigrants and they have freshened the city's cultural offering for the better. I just find Montreal has always had the tawdry appeal of a woman who has lost some of her youthful allure and knows she must compensate in other ways. My great grandfather was the Bishop of Halifax and I still have family in the Maritimes. I find Canada to be exceedingly pleasant in a numbing sort of way.
I love visiting Canada especially the province of Quebec. I'm treated like royalty because of my last name as a member of the "first family".
Quote from: reinko on July 01, 2013, 07:12:46 AM
Novak was glued to the Knicks bench the last 3 months of the year. Excited to see Steve get on the floor more.
Yep, Woodson did not trust him on D. He barely played last few months
Quote from: MU Fan in Connecticut on July 01, 2013, 12:23:25 PM
I love visiting Canada especially the province of Quebec. I'm treated like royalty because of my last name as a member of the "first family".
Your last name is Obama?
Quote from: keefe on June 30, 2013, 07:10:02 PM
Toronto is nice in a bland, inoffensive way. I much prefer the audacious impertinence of Montreal. Grace Kelly was beautiful but you knew you would have a far better time with Isabelle Adjani
+100000
Two words for you: Joe Beef
or Foie Gras poutine at Au Pied de Cochon (I know that's more than 2 words).
Toronto, to me, is more like Chicago, while Montreal is more like a combination of any large European city with a touch of New Orleans.
Quote from: keefe on July 01, 2013, 12:43:59 PM
Your last name is Obama?
A bit more Canadien-Français.
Quote from: indeelaw90 on July 01, 2013, 12:51:18 PM
+100000
Two words for you: Joe Beef
or Foie Gras poutine at Au Pied de Cochon (I know that's more than 2 words).
Toronto, to me, is more like Chicago, while Montreal is more like a combination of any large European city with a touch of New Orleans.
I would agree with this except Montreal is more French than New Orleans. English is also widely spoken there. Quebec City is a different story.
Quote from: indeelaw90 on July 01, 2013, 12:51:18 PM
+100000
Two words for you: Joe Beef
or Foie Gras poutine at Au Pied de Cochon (I know that's more than 2 words).
Toronto, to me, is more like Chicago, while Montreal is more like a combination of any large European city with a touch of New Orleans.
You, sir, have superb taste. I have dined there. It is not possible to capture the essence of Au Pied in jus two words. But if I were limited to just one it would be Somptueux!
Quote from: keefe on July 01, 2013, 11:59:39 AM
Toronto does have a lot of first gen immigrants and they have freshened the city's cultural offering for the better. I just find Montreal has always had the tawdry appeal of a woman who has lost some of her youthful allure and knows she must compensate in other ways. My great grandfather was the Bishop of Halifax and I still have family in the Maritimes. I find Canada to be exceedingly pleasant in a numbing sort of way.
Halifax is a nice little city although difficult to get to. I enjoyed my very quiet and laid back visit to the Canadian Marintimes.
Thanks to my wife and her fluency in French, or more precisely Quebecois, Martin Picard pulled up a chair and spent the better part of an hour at our table exchanging stories of drinking and eating around Montreal, his Sugar Shack, and what not to see and do in the city.
We try to make it back every year. I can still taste the Duck in a Can, Boudin Tart, Pig and Foie Gras Pie, Pouding chômeur...etc.
Although the Lobster Spaghetti (think a whole Lobster with a Lobster Bisque as the red sauce) at Joe Beef is close...
Did anyone else frequent Windsor when they were 19 years old? I've had some good times in that dump of a city
Quote from: keefe on July 01, 2013, 11:59:39 AM
Toronto does have a lot of first gen immigrants and they have freshened the city's cultural offering for the better. I just find Montreal has always had the tawdry appeal of a woman who has lost some of her youthful allure and knows she must compensate in other ways. My great grandfather was the Bishop of Halifax and I still have family in the Maritimes. I find Canada to be exceedingly pleasant in a numbing sort of way.
blue fin tuna fishing near halifax is on my bucket list...actually planning to do the drive through toronto, ottawa, montreal, quebec city, and finally halifax with my dad before i regret not doing so.
i had a college professor (~10 years ago for a human environmental problems course) that purchased an ocean front cottage on a credit card as the fishing village took a dive when commercial fishing (for cod i believe) went to hell. said it was his piece of heaven for one month a year. he knew i liked to fish so he'd show pictures of some pretty impressive catches, along with the beautiful scenery.
Quote from: mugrad99 on July 01, 2013, 12:51:18 PM
+100000
Two words for you: Joe Beef
or Foie Gras poutine at Au Pied de Cochon (I know that's more than 2 words).
Toronto, to me, is more like Chicago, while Montreal is more like a combination of any large European city with a touch of New Orleans.
Funny, me and my buddies call Toronto "baby Chicago." Montreal is definitely way more French than New Orleans. And echoing someone else on here, Quebec City actually feels like a foreign country (as opposed to Toronto, where it feels like...well...baby Chicago).
Quote from: cbowe3 on July 01, 2013, 02:23:46 PM
Did anyone else frequent Windsor when they were 19 years old? I've had some good times in that dump of a city
When I was in Ann Arbor we did road trips over to Windsor for cheap gas and duty free CC & Molson's Golden. We would have dinner at a place called Wong's Kitchen. Windsor is to Montreal as Detroit is to Paris.
Quote from: mugrad99 on July 01, 2013, 02:09:13 PM
Thanks to my wife and her fluency in French, or more precisely Quebecois, Martin Picard pulled up a chair and spent the better part of an hour at our table exchanging stories of drinking and eating around Montreal, his Sugar Shack, and what not to see and do in the city.
We try to make it back every year. I can still taste the Duck in a Can, Boudin Tart, Pig and Foie Gras Pie, Pouding chômeur...etc.
Although the Lobster Spaghetti (think a whole Lobster with a Lobster Bisque as the red sauce) at Joe Beef is close...
I've only eaten there twice so I'm assuming Picard is the owner chef/maitre d'hôtel? The menu there is superb and we savored every morsel but it really is a coronary in the making. It is an off beat place with a vibrant, exciting offering. We were very impressed with concept and execution. My wife loved pate and foie gras so it was a real treat for her. I love foie gras because PETA doesn't.
Grew up in Detroit and came to appreciate the Windsor ballet and cheap everything when the exchange rate was at .70 to the USD, can't believe the dollars are almost the same value these days.
Quote from: avid1010 on July 01, 2013, 02:46:18 PM
blue fin tuna fishing near halifax is on my bucket list...actually planning to do the drive through toronto, ottawa, montreal, quebec city, and finally halifax with my dad before i regret not doing so.
i had a college professor (~10 years ago for a human environmental problems course) that purchased an ocean front cottage on a credit card as the fishing village took a dive when commercial fishing (for cod i believe) went to hell. said it was his piece of heaven for one month a year. he knew i liked to fish so he'd show pictures of some pretty impressive catches, along with the beautiful scenery.
My trips to Halifax have been family so I've never been fishing but obviously everything there is focused on the sea. It is a quaint place with an excellent pub culture. Best time to visit is summer with long days but bring sweaters. A worthwhile side trip is to visit Louisburg, the huge French fortress which, surprisingly, surrendered to a British-American army without having offered any real resistance. It was yet another proud moment in the storied annals of French military history. Capture of Louisburg opened up the St Lawrence to the RN and led to Wolfe's defeat of Montcalm on the Plains of Abraham below the walled city of Quebec. North America became an Anglo domain from that moment on.
We have albacore just off the coast here in the Japanese Current. It's a couple nights in blue water and the swells are not for the squeamish. But whacking tuna is a lot of fun and they eat great.
Quote from: keefe on July 02, 2013, 12:03:48 AM
My trips to Halifax have been family so I've never been fishing but obviously everything there is focused on the sea. It is a quaint place with an excellent pub culture. Best time to visit is summer with long days but bring sweaters. A worthwhile side trip is to visit Louisburg, the huge French fortress which, surprisingly, surrendered to a British-American army without having offered any real resistance. It was yet another proud moment in the storied annals of French military history. Capture of Louisburg opened up the St Lawrence to the RN and led to Wolfe's defeat of Montcalm on the Plains of Abraham below the walled city of Quebec. North America became an Anglo domain from that moment on.
We have albacore just off the coast here in the Japanese Current. It's a couple nights in blue water and the swells are not for the squeamish. But whacking tuna is a lot of fun and they eat great.
I made a visit to Louisbourg. Impressively large and it looks like a French village. The wife and I caught the last tour as we drove from Halifax to Sydney. Apparently the fort had nothing to do with rest of French Canada as everything was imported regularly from France. The British Navy & Marines showed up and seiged the fort. The fort walls were made of local materials that held up great against waves but turned to sand when hit by British cannonballs. Due to the geography the French army couldn't even attempt to confront the Marines that had taken position behind the fort on land.
In Sydney we took a boat cruise around a Canadian marine sactuary called the Bird Islands and watched Atlantic Puffins fly & swim. The next day we were on our way to PEI.
Sheesh--we have gone from a thread about Novak in Toronto to a thread about touring Montreal! Only on the internet.
Quote from: willie warrior on July 02, 2013, 08:47:04 AM
Sheesh--we have gone from a thread about Novak in Toronto to a thread about touring Montreal! Only on the internet.
Nope...only on Scoop.
Next up, this thread turns into another Crean love/hatefest.
In before the lock. ;)