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Title: Doc traded to Clippers
Post by: keefe on June 23, 2013, 06:21:25 PM
For 2015 1st Round pick. Doc stays at $7MM per for next 3 seasons.

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9415256/los-angeles-clippers-verge-landing-doc-rivers-sources-say
Title: Re: Doc traded to Clippers
Post by: HoopsMalone on June 23, 2013, 06:39:52 PM
Pretty steep price for a coach in my opinion. 
Title: Re: Doc traded to Clippers
Post by: Pakuni on June 23, 2013, 06:41:26 PM
Quote from: HoopsMalone on June 23, 2013, 06:39:52 PM
Pretty steep price for a coach in my opinion. 

The Tampa Bay Bucs and New England Patriots beg to differ.
Title: Re: Doc traded to Clippers
Post by: WarriorFan on June 23, 2013, 06:55:34 PM
Well done Doc!
It would have been too painful watching the Celtics decline.  Garnett and Pierce are too old to do it, and Rondo is a head case, so that situation was going nowhere.  Good luck in L.A.
Title: Re: Doc traded to Clippers
Post by: keefe on June 23, 2013, 06:57:34 PM
Quote from: jtbh6b1 on June 23, 2013, 06:55:34 PM
Well done Doc!
It would have been too painful watching the Celtics decline.  Garnett and Pierce are too old to do it, and Rondo is a head case, so that situation was going nowhere.  Good luck in L.A.

I agree. This was a savvy move by Doc.
Title: Re: Doc traded to Clippers
Post by: willie warrior on June 23, 2013, 07:50:10 PM
may have been a savvy move but he did have a contract with the Celts. Looks more like a guy deserting the sinking ship.
Title: Re: Doc traded to Clippers
Post by: keefe on June 23, 2013, 07:53:44 PM
Quote from: willie warrior on June 23, 2013, 07:50:10 PM
may have been a savvy move but he did have a contract with the Celts. Looks more like a guy deserting the sinking ship.


I heard from a credible source Doc was looking for a change so this makes sense. Good for him in securing an enviable opportunity and good for the Celtics for extracting some value in the process. Everybody wins.
Title: Re: Doc traded to Clippers
Post by: mileskishnish72 on June 23, 2013, 08:01:04 PM
Doc HAD to know that rebuilding would have to happen during his 5-year contract. The way the guys hugged at the end of the year indicated (to me, at least) that they all knew it was over. Contracts don't mean much I guess. Glad he was working it through with Danny. Going to be some lean years for my Celts.
Title: Re: Doc traded to Clippers
Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on June 23, 2013, 08:54:15 PM
what's Doc's buyout?  Larry Williams needs to know so he can hire Doc to coach MU next spring after he forces Buzz out.   >:(
Title: Re: Doc traded to Clippers
Post by: Sunbelt15 on June 23, 2013, 09:25:34 PM
Quote from: willie warrior on June 23, 2013, 07:50:10 PM
may have been a savvy move but he did have a contract with the Celts. Looks more like a guy deserting the sinking ship.

And the problem is?
Title: Re: Doc traded to Clippers
Post by: MU82 on June 23, 2013, 09:26:11 PM
Buzz to Celtics.
Title: Re: Doc traded to Clippers
Post by: GGGG on June 23, 2013, 09:27:52 PM
Quote from: HoopsMalone on June 23, 2013, 06:39:52 PM
Pretty steep price for a coach in my opinion.  


A first round pick in the #20 range?  Not really...
Title: Re: Doc traded to Clippers
Post by: Sunbelt15 on June 23, 2013, 09:32:50 PM
If Garnett doesn't get traded, I wonder if he's going to hate on Doc like he hated on Ray Allen for leaving the Celtics and making deals with a better team. So far it's worked out for Allen.
Title: Re: Doc traded to Clippers
Post by: Atticus on June 23, 2013, 09:52:14 PM
Quote from: Sunbelt15 on June 23, 2013, 09:32:50 PM
If Garnett doesn't get traded, I wonder if he's going to hate on Doc like he hated on Ray Allen for leaving the Celtics and making deals with a better team. So far it's worked out for Allen.

Its out in the open that Rondo, Pierce and Garnett are not liked amongst other marquee players in the league. Allen was a great fit on the court but not off the court. Its essentially the 3 celtic guys vs. The rest of the nba. It will be interesting whete they all end up if boston decides to start from scratch.

I actually hate the fact i even know this because i dont wven follow the nba - just have a friend that works in the front office of the thunder.

The nba sucks because it married hip hop in the late 90's and a divorce at this point is impossible.
Title: Re: Doc traded to Clippers
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on June 23, 2013, 10:10:40 PM
Quote from: Atticus on June 23, 2013, 09:52:14 PM


The nba sucks because it married hip hop in the late 90's and a divorce at this point is impossible.

What is that supposed to mean?
Title: Re: Doc traded to Clippers
Post by: seakm4 on June 23, 2013, 11:38:09 PM
Quote from: esard2011 on June 23, 2013, 10:10:40 PM
What is that supposed to mean?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77fM_9w7mBU

Just Manny being Manny.
Title: Re: Doc traded to Clippers
Post by: 79Warrior on June 24, 2013, 12:17:11 AM
Quote from: HoopsMalone on June 23, 2013, 06:39:52 PM
Pretty steep price for a coach in my opinion. 

Same deal he had remaing with celtics, 3 years, 21 mil.
Title: Re: Doc traded to Clippers
Post by: GGGG on June 24, 2013, 08:37:44 AM
Quote from: esard2011 on June 23, 2013, 10:10:40 PM
What is that supposed to mean?


I'm hoping he starts bitching about "gangsta rap" next...and kids with baggy pants.
Title: Re: Doc traded to Clippers
Post by: MerrittsMustache on June 24, 2013, 08:47:28 AM
Quote from: 79Warrior on June 24, 2013, 12:17:11 AM
Same deal he had remaing with celtics, 3 years, 21 mil.

I heard he got a couple extra years added on. Now around 5 yrs/$35M.

Title: Re: Doc traded to Clippers
Post by: GGGG on June 24, 2013, 10:54:38 AM
Quote from: mileskishnish72 on June 23, 2013, 08:01:04 PM
Doc HAD to know that rebuilding would have to happen during his 5-year contract. The way the guys hugged at the end of the year indicated (to me, at least) that they all knew it was over. Contracts don't mean much I guess. Glad he was working it through with Danny. Going to be some lean years for my Celts.


He didn't violate the contract...not sure why you think "they don't mean much."
Title: Re: Doc traded to Clippers
Post by: MU82 on June 24, 2013, 11:35:07 AM
What's interesting here is that Vinny Del Negro is developing quite a reputation as a coach who can get a team from Point A to Point B but not to Point C or Point D.

He made the playoffs with the Bulls but Paxson correctly realized that they needed a better coach to reach the next level. Enter Thibodeau.

Meanwhile, in Clipperland, Del Negro had a very talented team but couldn't win in the playoffs, so he had to go. Enter Rivers, who is known for getting the very most out of his teams.

Also interesting: Both organizations turned to the Celtics after deciding to dump Vinny.
Title: Re: Doc traded to Clippers
Post by: GGGG on June 24, 2013, 11:47:15 AM
I think Del Negro isn't a very good coach who got has gotten lucky by landing into teams with talented rosters.  I can't believe that he is actually going to be getting a third chance with the Nuggets. 
Title: Re: Doc traded to Clippers
Post by: MerrittsMustache on June 24, 2013, 11:48:46 AM
Quote from: MU82 on June 24, 2013, 11:35:07 AM
What's interesting here is that Vinny Del Negro is developing quite a reputation as a coach who can get a team from Point A to Point B but not to Point C or Point D.

He made the playoffs with the Bulls but Paxson correctly realized that they needed a better coach to reach the next level. Enter Thibodeau.

Meanwhile, in Clipperland, Del Negro had a very talented team but couldn't win in the playoffs, so he had to go. Enter Rivers, who is known for getting the very most out of his teams.

Also interesting: Both organizations turned to the Celtics after deciding to dump Vinny.

Agree with Skink. Vinny has been able to take over talented teams already at Point B and not drag them back to Point A.

Title: Re: Doc traded to Clippers
Post by: GGGG on June 24, 2013, 11:54:57 AM
To follow up more on the Del Negro record...

His last season in Chicago he went 41-41.  Finish with the 8th seed and get crushed by Lebron and the Cavs.

The next year, with Thibs actually coaching the team, they went 62-20.  The only real additions were Boozer, Brewer and Korver...but those guys aren't worth 21 wins.
Title: Re: Doc traded to Clippers
Post by: Pakuni on June 24, 2013, 12:14:33 PM
Quote from: Terror Skink on June 24, 2013, 11:54:57 AM
To follow up more on the Del Negro record...

His last season in Chicago he went 41-41.  Finish with the 8th seed and get crushed by Lebron and the Cavs.

The next year, with Thibs actually coaching the team, they went 62-20.  The only real additions were Boozer, Brewer and Korver...but those guys aren't worth 21 wins.

In no way am I suggesting that Vinny is near the coach that Thibs is  - he's not -  but the continuing maturation of Derrick Rose and Taj Gibson, plus the additions of Boozer (17/10 guy), Asik and Korver were all huge in that team's improvement.
Thibs is a great coach, best in the league with Pops, but no coach is worth 21 wins.
Title: Re: Doc traded to Clippers
Post by: MU82 on June 24, 2013, 01:59:24 PM
Here's an interesting factoid I just read:

Among those who fetched compensation was Kevin Loughery, Jordan's first NBA coach. The Bulls sent a second-rounder to Atlanta in exchange for Loughery. The Hawks promptly used the pick to select ...

Marquette guard Glenn "Doc" Rivers!
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