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Title: More love for ND
Post by: Spotcheck Billy on May 30, 2013, 12:53:34 PM
Gordon Gee rips ND, Catholics

COLUMBUS, Ohio -- Ohio State's president told a university committee in December that Notre Dame wasn't invited to join the Big Ten because they're not good partners, and joked that Catholics can't be trusted.

The recording of Gordon Gee speaking to Ohio State's Athletic Council also captures him saying the Notre Dame priests who run the university are holy on Sunday and "holy hell" the rest of the week.

Gee spoke about conference expansion in the recording obtained by The Associated Press. He says Notre Dame "wanted to have its cake and eat it, too."

Gee, who has a history of verbal gaffes, also questioned the academic integrity of schools in the Southeastern Conference and the University of Louisville. He said Big Ten presidents would never agree to admit Louisville or Kentucky.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/9325510/gordon-gee-ohio-state-president-takes-shots-notre-dame-catholics




Title: Re: More love for ND
Post by: Tugg Speedman on May 30, 2013, 01:08:55 PM
Did Gordon Gee forget that tOSU's AD is Gene Smith, An ND Graduate (and played football for the Irish)?  Smith has been the AD since 2005 so you would think Gee is now aware if this factoid.

Or does Gee just have the intelligence of an average tOSU graduate?
Title: Re: More love for ND
Post by: Groin_pull on May 30, 2013, 01:09:17 PM
Arrogant pinhead. Of course, we all know that every Big 10 "student"-athlete is studying law, medicine, or engineering. ::)
Title: Re: More love for ND
Post by: Groin_pull on May 30, 2013, 01:10:01 PM
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on May 30, 2013, 01:08:55 PM
Did Gordon Gee forget that tOSU's AD is Gene Smith, An ND Graduate (and played football for the Irish)?  Smith has been the AD since 2005 so you would think Gee is now aware if this factoid.

Or does Gee just have the intelligence of an average tOSU graduate?

I think he also forgot that his precious university is fresh off probation.
Title: Re: More love for ND
Post by: Coleman on May 30, 2013, 01:10:14 PM
I find this funny, if only because its targeted at Notre Dame.
Title: Re: More love for ND
Post by: real chili 83 on May 30, 2013, 01:55:01 PM
Nosepickers
Title: Re: More love for ND
Post by: MU82 on May 30, 2013, 02:02:15 PM
Quote from: Red Stripe on May 30, 2013, 12:53:34 PM
Gordon Gee rips ND, Catholics

COLUMBUS, Ohio -- Ohio State's president told a university committee in December that Notre Dame wasn't invited to join the Big Ten because they're not good partners, and joked that Catholics can't be trusted.

The recording of Gordon Gee speaking to Ohio State's Athletic Council also captures him saying the Notre Dame priests who run the university are holy on Sunday and "holy hell" the rest of the week.

Gee spoke about conference expansion in the recording obtained by The Associated Press. He says Notre Dame "wanted to have its cake and eat it, too."

Gee, who has a history of verbal gaffes, also questioned the academic integrity of schools in the Southeastern Conference and the University of Louisville. He said Big Ten presidents would never agree to admit Louisville or Kentucky.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/9325510/gordon-gee-ohio-state-president-takes-shots-notre-dame-catholics






Says the president of Maurice Clarett University.
Title: Re: More love for ND
Post by: keefe on May 30, 2013, 02:09:01 PM
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Title: Re: More love for ND
Post by: Stronghold on May 30, 2013, 07:35:28 PM
Quote from: keefe on May 30, 2013, 02:09:01 PM
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Isn't that shirt missing a "The" before Ohio?
Title: Re: More love for ND
Post by: keefe on May 30, 2013, 07:40:23 PM
Quote from: Stronghold on May 30, 2013, 07:35:28 PM
Isn't that shirt missing a "The" before Ohio?

I love how Brady Hoke intentionally refers to that school in Columbus as "Ohio."
Title: Re: More love for ND
Post by: 79Warrior on May 30, 2013, 07:44:12 PM
Quote from: Victor McCormick on May 30, 2013, 01:10:14 PM
I find this funny, if only because its targeted at Notre Dame.

Well, he cast a pretty wide net because he slams Catholics in his comments also.
Title: Re: More love for ND
Post by: buckchuckler on May 30, 2013, 07:56:31 PM
Quote from: 79Warrior on May 30, 2013, 07:44:12 PM
Well, he cast a pretty wide net because he slams Catholics in his comments also.

Good thing he didn't say that about any other religious group because there would be a poopstorm. 
Title: Re: More love for ND
Post by: keefe on May 30, 2013, 10:28:01 PM
Quote from: buckchuckler on May 30, 2013, 07:56:31 PM
Good thing he didn't say that about any other religious group because there would be a poopstorm. 

Actually, we Anglicans have calmed down since that whole Bloody Mary thing...
Title: Re: More love for ND
Post by: 77ncaachamps on May 30, 2013, 10:35:34 PM
A Mormon poking fun of Catholics.

What's new?
Title: Re: More love for ND
Post by: keefe on May 30, 2013, 10:49:09 PM
Quote from: 77ncaachamps on May 30, 2013, 10:35:34 PM
A Mormon poking fun of Catholics.

What's new?

Funny Mormon. His second wife smoked weed in the Vandy Presidential Mansion. He must be a Reformed Liberal Mormon.
Title: Re: More love for ND
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on May 31, 2013, 12:28:06 AM
While Gee is obviously as arrogant as any Buckeye, he does raise a good point. Solely looking at academics, Louisville and Kentucky are mid major material at best. If I was a B1G president, I would never want them in my league.

But hey...at least they aren't Memphis
Title: Re: More love for ND
Post by: keefe on May 31, 2013, 01:52:43 AM
Quote from: Analytical Eagle on May 31, 2013, 12:28:06 AM
While Gee is obviously as arrogant as any Buckeye, he does raise a good point. Solely looking at academics, Louisville and Kentucky are mid major material at best. If I was a B1G president, I would never want them in my league.

But hey...at least they aren't Memphis

That's akin to telling the leukemia patient,  "Look at the bright side. You could have AIDs!"
Title: Re: More love for ND
Post by: MerrittsMustache on May 31, 2013, 07:35:47 AM
Quote from: Analytical Eagle on May 31, 2013, 12:28:06 AM
While Gee is obviously as arrogant as any Buckeye, he does raise a good point. Solely looking at academics, Louisville and Kentucky are mid major material at best. If I was a B1G president, I would never want them in my league.

But hey...at least they aren't Memphis

Solely looking at academics as it pertains to big-time athletes, OSU is no better than Louisville or Kentucky.
Title: Re: More love for ND
Post by: madtownwarrior on May 31, 2013, 08:00:18 AM

and what burns my butt, he will get a nice "retirement package" to go away after all these idiotic statements...
Title: Re: More love for ND
Post by: GGGG on May 31, 2013, 08:04:40 AM
Quote from: buckchuckler on May 30, 2013, 07:56:31 PM
Good thing he didn't say that about any other religious group because there would be a poopstorm. 


Great....victimization has just waltzed through the door.
Title: Re: More love for ND
Post by: GGGG on May 31, 2013, 08:06:56 AM
Quote from: Analytical Eagle on May 31, 2013, 12:28:06 AM
While Gee is obviously as arrogant as any Buckeye, he does raise a good point. Solely looking at academics, Louisville and Kentucky are mid major material at best. If I was a B1G president, I would never want them in my league.


I don't disagree with that, but it really is about how you say things. 
Title: Re: More love for ND
Post by: Niv Berkowitz on May 31, 2013, 08:14:29 AM
I love this story in soooo many ways. First, it's always great to rip ND. Second, it's coming from OSU, a bastion of integrity if there ever was one.

Directions to Columbus (if coming from the North) - south til you smell it, east til you step in it.
Title: Re: More love for ND
Post by: MerrittsMustache on May 31, 2013, 08:18:10 AM
Quote from: madtownwarrior on May 31, 2013, 08:00:18 AM
and what burns my butt, he will get a nice "retirement package" to go away after all these idiotic statements...


OSU won't make him "go away" because of comments like this. Comments like this are what help to bring in big donations from Buckeye boosters who buy in to this way of thinking. Gee basically acts as a blindly loyal cheerleader for the university and alums love him for it.
Title: Re: More love for ND
Post by: Coleman on May 31, 2013, 08:22:42 AM
Quote from: Terror Skink on May 31, 2013, 08:04:40 AM

Great....victimization has just waltzed through the door.

+1
Title: Re: More love for ND
Post by: buckchuckler on May 31, 2013, 09:33:04 AM

That's actually the opposite of the point I was making.  
Title: Re: More love for ND
Post by: buckchuckler on May 31, 2013, 09:34:14 AM
Quote from: Analytical Eagle on May 31, 2013, 12:28:06 AM
While Gee is obviously as arrogant as any Buckeye, he does raise a good point. Solely looking at academics, Louisville and Kentucky are mid major material at best. If I was a B1G president, I would never want them in my league.

But hey...at least they aren't Memphis

From the conference that just added Nebraska? 
Title: Re: More love for ND
Post by: LAZER on May 31, 2013, 11:30:47 AM
Quote from: buckchuckler on May 31, 2013, 09:34:14 AM
From the conference that just added Nebraska? 

Remember how important that AAU status thing was? What a joke.
Title: Re: More love for ND
Post by: willie warrior on May 31, 2013, 11:31:39 AM
Quote from: Analytical Eagle on May 31, 2013, 12:28:06 AM
While Gee is obviously as arrogant as any Buckeye, he does raise a good point. Solely looking at academics, Louisville and Kentucky are mid major material at best. If I was a B1G president, I would never want them in my league.

But hey...at least they aren't Memphis
Gee is arrogant, but it pales in comparison to the arrogance of the No Dick supporters.
Title: Re: More love for ND
Post by: Dawson Rental on May 31, 2013, 04:48:20 PM
Quote from: buckchuckler on May 31, 2013, 09:34:14 AM
From the conference that just added Nebraska? 

Quote from: LAZER on May 31, 2013, 11:30:47 AM
Remember how important that AAU status thing was? What a joke.

Actually, Nebraska was an early member of the AAU joining in 1909, and was only removed in 2011, in part because its medical school was under separate administration and its research dollars couldn't be counted in the total received by the University.
Title: Re: More love for ND
Post by: Tugg Speedman on May 31, 2013, 06:40:45 PM
Looks like Gordon Gee is in a bit of hot water .... the trustees must be a bunch of untrustworthy Catholics.

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Ohio State Board Warns President Over Comments

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324412604578517321096875086.html?mod=WSJ__MIDDLENexttoWhatsNewsForth

A letter from the Ohio State University board of trustees chastised president Gordon Gee for joking comments he made about Catholics and cautioned him that similar instances could prompt punitive action, including dismissal.

The March 11 letter came in the wake of comments Mr. Gee made at a December meeting of the school's athletic council, during which he joked that "those damn Catholics" couldn't be trusted. Mr. Gee's comments came to the board's attention in January, according to a statement issued Thursday by board chair Robert H. Schottenstein. The Associated Press reported on Mr. Gee's comments Thursday.

The board of trustees' letter was signed by Mr. Schottenstein and governance committee chair Alex Shumate, and detailed the remediation plan mentioned in the university's Thursday statement.

The letter said Mr. Gee's comments were unacceptable and detracted from its mission, and included a warning: "Although none of us expects this to be the case, should future instances take place, they could constitute cause for even more punitive action, including dismissal, and the Board will have no choice but to take such action."

The letter outlined the corrective steps that Mr. Gee must follow. Those steps included:

- Issuing personal apologies to any group Mr. Gee had offended

- Engaging a "coach" with expertise to help "facilitate a healthy, open and diverse twenty-first century higher education institution with a global presence and voice"

- Seeking the assistance of professionals who could assist with revisiting his personal communications and speechwriting processes to better align with the university's core values

- Reviewing the prioritization of his time, with a focus on more carefully selecting appropriate speaking engagements

- Using his voice to set standards for "civility, inclusion and collective aspiration."

The letter called Mr. Gee's ability to make personal connections with varied audiences one of his greatest strengths and called his sense of humor "infectious." But, it said, "on occasion your words that may be intended to bring a bit of levity to some significant issues have, in fact, had the opposite effect." As a result, it said, "instead of your words promoting and uniting us, they have sometimes embarrassed and divided us."

The letter said that the board would take Mr. Gee's future behavior into account in the course of its annual presidential performance review process, and noted that "consideration of appropriate compensation changes will be included as part of that review."

In the December meeting, which related to the realignment in which numerous schools changed athletic-conference affiliations in recent years, Mr. Gee spoke of the years in which the Big Ten Conference courted Notre Dame's membership. "The fathers are holy on Sunday, and they're holy hell the rest of the week," Mr. Gee said. Notre Dame is independent in football and late last year committed to join the Atlantic Coast Conference in all other sports.

Mr. Gee also joked about the lower academic standards of the University of Louisville and the University of Kentucky. He also joked about members of the Southeastern Conference not knowing how to read or write. Mr. Gee issued a public apology Thursday.
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