http://painttouches.com/2013/05/23/why-andersons-move-to-shooting-guard-will-help/
Yep. Well done. But I don't think I would call it "a shock." It makes perfect sense.
Juan could be useful backing up Jamil at the 3.
Hoping against hope that JJJ can play a lot at the 2. Mayo's erratic game doesn't inspire confidence and Juan will have to dramatically improve his woeful shooting #s to help out at the 2.
I think he could be great at the 2, he can break out on defense for fast breaks without being as responsible for the defensive glass. A guy that long and athletic will be hard to cover in the open floor and could be on the receiving end for some outlet dunks.
What amazes me is that these stats actually exist. I also wonder how accurate they are. Juan often times would go flying in to try and block a shot by a player who was not necessarily his man to cover. Who gets charged with giving up the basket, if Juan's block attempt was not successful. Otule who lost his man or Juan who was closest because he came in trying to block the shot?
I'm very optimistic that the move to SG will be wonderful for Juan.
Juan will not be able to guard quick 2's...Bryce Cotton would eat him alive. Juan IMO plays matador defense and even though his size might help against some guards it is not a great move. He also is not a very good shooter nor a great ball handler. Todd better step up and take these minutes because Todd at 6-4 with his shooting ability and the defense he showed he could play his freshman year is a FAR better option than Juan. I wish Juan had just transferred and I dont understand the excitement at his decision to stay. Give me Jamail Jones staying over Juan any day of the week.
I hope JJJ, Todd, and possibly Duane take all these minutes because Juan is not a 2 guard....
Juan won't be playing a 2 guard...or the position that Vander played last year and Todd will likely play this year.
Remember this is basically a three guard offense. He will likely be playing Lockett's position from last year. He would likely be guarding a "3-type" player.
This is opposed to playing the "4" position last year...and guarding those types.
Quote from: Terror Skink on May 23, 2013, 12:56:33 PM
Juan won't be playing a 2 guard...or the position that Vander played last year and Todd will likely play this year.
Remember this is basically a three guard offense. He will likely be playing Lockett's position from last year. He would likely be guarding a "3-type" player.
This is opposed to playing the "4" position last year...and guarding those types.
Alright well my argument is void now because Juan is definitely quicker than Trent. I will miss Trent though.
I just assumed that the article saying SG meant 2 guard, but I see your point
Quote from: Clam Crowder on May 23, 2013, 01:06:01 PM
Alright well my argument is void now because Juan is definitely quicker than Trent. I will miss Trent though.
I just assumed that the article saying SG meant 2 guard, but I see your point
Mark Miller's tweet said "backcourt." PT called it "shooting guard," but I don't think that is an accurate description.
I would agree that Juan will be more of a SF/3 guy ala Trent in Buzz's "3 guard" setup festuring his switchables.
This is predicated on allowing Steve Taylor to start at the 4...
The three guards/switchables will be J Wilson Plus 2...MU will have on of the "tallest" starting 5 next year...but also the ability to go also small and fast.
PG Wilson (you chose which one)
2G "A" JA (Mayo and JJJ)
2G "B"/ SF Jamil Wilson (burton)
PF Steve Taylor (McKay Reserve)
C Chris Otule (Gardner Reserve 6-man of the year)
Small speed team
PG Du Wilson
SG "A" Mayo
SG "B" JJJ/Burton
PF Wilson
c McKay
You see this last line up when with a full court zone press with McKay at the top...
Quote from: BigDaddy84 on May 23, 2013, 02:34:37 PM
This is predicated on allowing Steve Taylor to start at the 4...
The three guards/switchables will be J Wilson Plus 2...MU will have on of the "tallest" starting 5 next year...but also the ability to go also small and fast.
PG Wilson (you chose which one)
2G "A" JA (Mayo and JJJ)
2G "B"/ SF Jamil Wilson (burton)
PF Steve Taylor (McKay Reserve)
C Chris Otule (Gardner Reserve 6-man of the year)
I think it is much more likely that Juan is at the 2G "B" and Wilson the PF....at least to start the year.
I think Todd Mayo (of returning players) is the second most TALENTED player on the team. His talent is unfortunately overshadowed by some other issues but I still think Todd could be a great player. Todd (if he takes care of his issues which is a big if) should be able to be the started at the 2. He is a great option at the 2 and someone who can shoot the 3 although last year he didn't really show it. Jamil is the star of this team with Gardner a close second. Otule is what he is by now, Steve has great potential, and the rest is really unproven/unknown. We should have a great team. I just don't see Juan ever being a very good player. 8/4 guy is what I see him capable of.
Juan should be on the bench. Maybe he can take some of Taylor's minutes in the begining, but i expect Juan as another Fulce 2.0.
Quote from: Clam Crowder on May 23, 2013, 03:43:26 PM
I think Todd Mayo (of returning players) is the second most TALENTED player on the team. His talent is unfortunately overshadowed by some other issues but I still think Todd could be a great player. Todd (if he takes care of his issues which is a big if) should be able to be the started at the 2. He is a great option at the 2 and someone who can shoot the 3 although last year he didn't really show it. Jamil is the star of this team with Gardner a close second. Otule is what he is by now, Steve has great potential, and the rest is really unproven/unknown. We should have a great team. I just don't see Juan ever being a very good player. 8/4 guy is what I see him capable of.
I actually could see Otule taking a big step up next year. He was a totally different player at the end of the season vs the start of the season when he was clearly hampered by his knee. I would not be surprised at all to see him average 10 or more points a game.
I suspect Mayo will be very motivated next season with Vander moving on...I also expect to see him play PG some, ala Buycks. Don't jump on me for being a heretic. ;D
Juan can be a Vander/Trent type guard...and his shot will only get better with a healthy summer. His form and touch are almost there, after being shut down for so long. Has hops and can dribble drive, dish.
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on May 23, 2013, 05:09:30 PM
I suspect Mayo will be very motivated next season with Vander moving on...I also expect to see him play PG some, ala Buycks. Don't jump on me for being a heretic. ;D
Juan can be a Vander/Trent type guard...and his shot will only get better with a healthy summer. His form and touch are almost there, after being shut down for so long. Has hops and can dribble drive, dish.
Mayo could definitely be a major factor this year. Last year he was behind the 8 ball from day 1 and was relegated to giving Vander breaks. He has a tremendous opportunity to prove himself this year and I hope he capitalizes. If not, then I hope JJJ steps up.
No one is saying that Juan coming back is going to change the world. But we are better with him than without him. Barring an injury he will play a limited role but has proven that he can hit the occasional jumper, rebound, distribute and can play a role in almost any personnel grouping.
Quote from: frozena pizza on May 24, 2013, 07:21:26 AM
Mayo could definitely be a major factor this year. Last year he was behind the 8 ball from day 1 and was relegated to giving Vander breaks. He has a tremendous opportunity to prove himself this year and I hope he capitalizes. If not, then I hope JJJ steps up.
No one is saying that Juan coming back is going to change the world. But we are better with him than without him. Barring an injury he will play a limited role but has proven that he can hit the occasional jumper, rebound, distribute and can play a role in almost any personnel grouping.
I think having Juan off the bench is great news, but if Buzz starts him like last year I will not be very happy about that. Jamil needs to be on the floor as long as he can.
Quote from: Clam Crowder on May 24, 2013, 07:59:16 AM
I think having Juan off the bench is great news, but if Buzz starts him like last year I will not be very happy about that. Jamil needs to be on the floor as long as he can.
They both can start.
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on May 23, 2013, 05:09:30 PM
I suspect Mayo will be very motivated next season with Vander moving on...
I think Mayo has been through the fire. He will be on campus all summer and hopefully retain eligibility in the fall. I really do think he is going to take a leap to the next level.
Quote from: Terror Skink on May 24, 2013, 08:02:58 AM
I think Mayo has been through the fire. He will be on campus all summer and hopefully retain eligibility in the fall. I really do think he is going to take a leap to the next level.
I am not sure what of make of it, but I find it interesting that after Blue declares Buzz goes out and talks both Thomas and Juan to come back to play the two. They obviously believe they are going to get enough minutes or they would not come back. Now of course believing that and actually can be two different things. However, one can look at this and think that Buzz is in panic mode concerning the two spot.
Quote from: bilsu on May 24, 2013, 08:41:23 AM
I am not sure what of make of it, but I find it interesting that after Blue declares Buzz goes out and talks both Thomas and Juan to come back to play the two. They obviously believe they are going to get enough minutes or they would not come back. Now of course believing that and actually can be two different things. However, one can look at this and think that Buzz is in panic mode concerning the two spot.
Couple things.
I'm not sure Jake was promised anything by way of minutes, but he was given a scholarship. So maybe it was simply that he was willing to stay as long as he was put on scholarship.
But in the case of Juan, my understanding is that Buzz did not talk Juan into staying, but that the circumstances around his decision to transfer changed, and approached Buzz about returning.
Quote from: Terror Skink on May 24, 2013, 08:45:43 AM
Couple things.
I'm not sure Jake was promised anything by way of minutes, but he was given a scholarship. So maybe it was simply that he was willing to stay as long as he was put on scholarship.
But in the case of Juan, my understanding is that Buzz did not talk Juan into staying, but that the circumstances around his decision to transfer changed, and approached Buzz about returning.
That is problably true, but playing time is important to players and it easy to see that they do not expect Mayo to play the same number of minutes as Blue.
I am sure if Buzz had another player in mind for Juans scholarship, then Juan would be going elsewhere. It is not like he is not replaceable, it is hard to play 13 players much less 9 or
10 so there will be some unhappy faces at the end of the bench. It could be Thomas, Dawson, Burton and Anderson. And those 4 all can play some. Practice next year will be tough, all
those kids want to play. Anderson might have a better chance, even beating out, Mayo for PT time. Summer will very important, competition will make them all better.
I wonder if the battle for minutes will come down to Juan vs. Mayo? Even Buzz understands that you don't bring in Top 30 kids (JJJ) and not let them see the court. I personally believe that all of the Big 3 Frosh will get respectable minutes. That said, Terror could be correct in his belief that Wilson stays at the 4 thereby freeing up minutes at the SG 'B' (Lockett position) for Juan to partially fill.
If I were coach (you guys are darn lucky I'm not), I'd spend the summer/early fall trying to find my very best 2-3-4 combination knowing full well what Plan A is for the #5 and our exciting low post possibilities. Where's Jamil best in his new role as 'alpha dog' and how do I most effectively build the other two positions to support that in all aspects of the game? Do I need two versions depending on my competition on a given day? #freestevetaylor? #mckayisjae? #playjuan?
Anyway, this is more fun than thinking about the Brewers.
What is great about Buzz's system is that you can really do what ever you want depending on who is hot and who you are playing.
You could have a line up of one of the D. Wilsons, JJJ, Mayo, Jamil and McKay. Small, but quick with multiple shooters.
Or D. Wilson, Mayo, Jamil, Taylor and Otule. Nice and big.
Itll be interesting to see next year with lineups, we can be a VERY fast team next year...especially if Otule continues to improve on his quickness, as he has come a long way. JA is pretty quick for his size and I think Taylor has good speed for the times he will play a post position.
QuoteWhat is great about Buzz's system is that you can really do what ever you want depending on who is hot and who you are playing.
The possibilities next year are numerous. I love the strides Otule made late last year. However, our guard play will ultimately determine how good this team is with Mayo and Juan being the X-factors. I'm not concerned with the PG position. I feel we have enough offense without either Wilson scoring.
Defending the 2 is a key in determining how good this team will be. All of our 2's, with Juan switching positions, Mayo being a defensive liability and JJJ being a freshman will need to improve their defense.
Quote from: Terror Skink on May 24, 2013, 08:01:23 AM
They both can start.
I dont think Juan is worth starting. Just my honest opinion. I would love to be surprised by him but as it stands I just don't think he is very good. Think back to the 2009 class, Jeronne and Reggie got pretty solid minutes Jeronne was set to start throughout the year. This is our best class since then and is most likely better than that class. I see Duane and either Deonte or JJJ as competing/starting from day 1 just like Van and Jeronne did. The top recruits Buzz has had are Jeronne and Blue and both got that opportunity. I like being able to argue about solid players getting minutes rather than worrying about not having depth.
First time we have had this problem in a bit hahah
Quote from: Clam Crowder on May 24, 2013, 11:45:36 AM
I dont think Juan is worth starting. Just my honest opinion. I would love to be surprised by him but as it stands I just don't think he is very good. Think back to the 2009 class, Jeronne and Reggie got pretty solid minutes Jeronne was set to start throughout the year. This is our best class since then and is most likely better than that class.
Jeronne was in the '09 class, didn't start a game, and only played about 16 mpg.
Reggie was in the '10 class, started 5 of 8 games, but only played about 10 mpg.
This incoming class is by far the best, but again, projecting big things from freshmen is real risky IMO. You simply don't know how they are going to catch onto the defense, how they will handle the speed, etc.
Quote from: Terror Skink on May 24, 2013, 10:24:44 AM
What is great about Buzz's system is that you can really do what ever you want depending on who is hot and who you are playing.
You could have a line up of one of the D. Wilsons, JJJ, Mayo, Jamil and McKay. Small, but quick with multiple shooters.
Or D. Wilson, Mayo, Jamil, Taylor and Otule. Nice and big.
Replacing Mayo with Burton would be my big team.
Quote from: Terror Skink on May 24, 2013, 11:59:44 AM
Jeronne was in the '09 class, didn't start a game, and only played about 16 mpg.
Reggie was in the '10 class, started 5 of 8 games, but only played about 10 mpg.
This incoming class is by far the best, but again, projecting big things from freshmen is real risky IMO. You simply don't know how they are going to catch onto the defense, how they will handle the speed, etc.
I always get those classes mixed up my bad lol. I cant believe we only had 1 of those guys stay....
Quote from: bilsu on May 24, 2013, 12:38:23 PM
Replacing Mayo with Burton would be my big team.
+1
I heard from a couple sources that Todd's attitude and demeanor really changed once the season ended and Blue declared. Maybe he sees this as an opportunity to "re-create" himself with the young guys and get more in line with the team concept and Buzz's vision. With less ego and more focus, I think Todd could be a difference maker. Time will tell. Just from a simple "eye test" I can't see Juan as the 2. I rewatched the youtube clips of JJJ the other day — he is a long and deadly 2. I think we are in for quite a treat.
Quote from: Freeport Warrior on May 24, 2013, 06:41:08 PM
I heard from a couple sources that Todd's attitude and demeanor really changed once the season ended and Blue declared. Maybe he sees this as an opportunity to "re-create" himself with the young guys and get more in line with the team concept and Buzz's vision. With less ego and more focus, I think Todd could be a difference maker. Time will tell. Just from a simple "eye test" I can't see Juan as the 2. I rewatched the youtube clips of JJJ the other day — he is a long and deadly 2. I think we are in for quite a treat.
I feel the same way about JJJ. Even from highlights you can see this is the best recruit Buzz has gotten. Duane appears to be very good as well. I think 2 freshman could get a good amount of minutes
Quote from: Freeport Warrior on May 24, 2013, 06:41:08 PM
I heard from a couple sources that Todd's attitude and demeanor really changed once the season ended and Blue declared. Maybe he sees this as an opportunity to "re-create" himself with the young guys and get more in line with the team concept and Buzz's vision. With less ego and more focus, I think Todd could be a difference maker. Time will tell. Just from a simple "eye test" I can't see Juan as the 2. I rewatched the youtube clips of JJJ the other day — he is a long and deadly 2. I think we are in for quite a treat.
Again...no one said Juan was going to play "the 2." They said he was going to transition to "the backcourt."
That likely means the position Lockett played last year...not the position that Vander played last year, DJO the year before, and Mayo likely this year. This is opposed to the power forward type position Juan started in last year.
QuoteWhy Juan Anderson's move to SG will help
Couldn't hurt.
QuoteA) he has shown range from beyond the 3-point arc
He Has?