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Title: The Cos at MU
Post by: PBRme on May 20, 2013, 12:00:29 AM
http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/news/208051921.html
Title: Re: The Cos at MU
Post by: 4everwarriors on May 20, 2013, 12:06:19 AM
Cat shoulda worn Warrior gear.
Title: Re: The Cos at MU
Post by: warriorchick on May 20, 2013, 01:21:15 AM
I thought his speech was good, but I thought for the most part, Bill Cosby acted rather disrespectfully.  Instead of wearing the appropriate PhD headwear, he had a Marquette ball cap with a tassel on it, which he waved above his head during the entire procession instead of walking solemnly like everyone else.  Then, when he began his talk, he took off his scholarly robes so that he could deliver his address in a sweatshirt and sweat pants.

Did someone fail to mention to him that this was a ceremony was to honor the graduates, not his nightclub act?
Title: Re: The Cos at MU
Post by: 🏀 on May 20, 2013, 01:26:25 AM
Like I said, Cosby has never been funny.
Title: Re: The Cos at MU
Post by: keefe on May 20, 2013, 02:06:11 AM
Quote from: PTM on May 20, 2013, 01:26:25 AM
Like I said, Cosby has never been funny.

Pearls before swine. Cosby is an American treasure with much to say on uncomfortable subjects through an elegant elucidation. The fact that you see neither his wit nor his intellect speaks volumes about who you are.

When my wife was around running things we had season tickets to the Seattle Symphony. One year we missed the first half of the season due to a deployment so we crammed all of our tickets into the last three months when there is less symphony and more pastiche. One evening was Cosby at Benaroya Hall. Cosby was funny, insightful, and pointed in his social commentary. Unlike most, who make apologies for stupidity, Cosby demanded accountability and an acceptance of responsibility. But the beauty of Cosby, at least on this evening, was that his anger was cleverly wrapped in wry nudges and scintillating bon mots that delivered the message without deflating the spirit. He is an American Classic. I think he is an exquisite selection as Commencement Speaker. Marquette should be proud.
Title: Re: The Cos at MU
Post by: keefe on May 20, 2013, 02:16:04 AM
Quote from: warriorchick on May 20, 2013, 01:21:15 AM
I thought his speech was good, but I thought for the most part, Bill Cosby acted rather disrespectfully.  Instead of wearing the appropriate PhD headwear, he had a Marquette ball cap with a tassel on it, which he waved above his head during the entire procession instead of walking solemnly like everyone else.  Then, when he began his talk, he took off his scholarly robes so that he could deliver his address in a sweatshirt and sweat pants.

Did someone fail to mention to him that this was a ceremony was to honor the graduates, not his nightclub act?

"In difficult matters, most persons prefer chewing the menu to actually eating the food"

I just listened to his commencement address. Character, integrity, honesty. Respect. Gratitude. Give.

Unlike the unintelligible Filipino bishop at my commencement, Cosby's message was crystal clear and will be remembered. I hope these graduates will reflect on words and put them into action.
Title: Re: The Cos at MU
Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on May 20, 2013, 03:10:01 AM
Quote from: warriorchick on May 20, 2013, 01:21:15 AM
I thought his speech was good, but I thought for the most part, Bill Cosby acted rather disrespectfully.  Instead of wearing the appropriate PhD headwear, he had a Marquette ball cap with a tassel on it, which he waved above his head during the entire procession instead of walking solemnly like everyone else.  Then, when he began his talk, he took off his scholarly robes so that he could deliver his address in a sweatshirt and sweat pants.

Did someone fail to mention to him that this was a ceremony was to honor the graduates, not his nightclub act?

He was my brother's speaker at Bradley a few years back.  Did the same thing, hat, sweats, phd robe with a t-shirt underneath,....probably gave the same speech.  Walked out when he was done too.
Title: Re: The Cos at MU
Post by: WI inferiority Complexes on May 20, 2013, 03:15:10 AM
Quote from: PTM on May 20, 2013, 01:26:25 AM
Like I said, Cosby has never been funny.

I know for a fact Cosby has never made Jerry Wainwright smile.
Title: Re: The Cos at MU
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on May 19, 2013, 10:26:17 PM
Quote from: PTM on May 20, 2013, 01:26:25 AM
Like I said, Cosby has never been funny.

I think he was, especially in his hey day and he did it without all the cussing and all the sexually explicit stuff that is needed today for cheap laughs.  His bit about being called Jesus Christ I always found funny, or feeding the kids cake in the morning for breakfast.
Title: Re: The Cos at MU
Post by: keefe on May 19, 2013, 10:53:55 PM
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on May 19, 2013, 10:26:17 PM
I think he was, especially in his hey day and he did it without all the cussing and all the sexually explicit stuff that is needed today for cheap laughs.  His bit about being called Jesus Christ I always found funny, or feeding the kids cake in the morning for breakfast.

There is a profound difference between vulgarity for the sake of being coarse and using it to punctuate satirical social commentary. Lenny Bruce, Mort Sahl, Dick Gregory, George Carlin, Richard Pryor among others employed language designed to shock the audience into a greater awareness of genuine issues. Their unique brand of observational comedy helped post-industrial America come of age.

Too much of what passes for humor today is simply vulgar while at the same time being trite, droll, or inane.
Title: Re: The Cos at MU
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on May 20, 2013, 12:27:32 AM
Quote from: keefe on May 19, 2013, 10:53:55 PM
There is a profound difference between vulgarity for the sake of being coarse and using it to punctuate satirical social commentary. Lenny Bruce, Mort Sahl, Dick Gregory, George Carlin, Richard Pryor among others employed language designed to shock the audience into a greater awareness of genuine issues. Their unique brand of observational comedy helped post-industrial America come of age.

Too much of what passes for humor today is simply vulgar while at the same time being trite, droll, or inane.

I agree.  Carlin and Bruce were two of my favorites. 
Title: Re: The Cos at MU
Post by: keefe on May 20, 2013, 01:29:52 AM
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on May 20, 2013, 12:27:32 AM
I agree.  Carlin and Bruce were two of my favorites. 

Lenny Bruce was an original. He had a profound impact on comedy, ranging from Dick Gregory's caustic social commentary, Woody Allen's wry experiential anxiety-ridden nebbish, the sardonic observations of Seinfeld, Carlin, Craig Ferguson, Ricky Gervais, Matt Groening, and Russell Peters, to the surreal juxtapositions of Monty Python, Jack Handy, Mitch Hedberg, and Conan O'Brien. There is irony in that his act led directly to his personal demise. Somehow, I think he would smile at that.
Title: Re: The Cos at MU
Post by: mu03eng on May 20, 2013, 08:09:13 AM
Quote from: PTM on May 20, 2013, 01:26:25 AM
Like I said, Cosby has never been funny.

Cosby's Himself stand up is an American classic.  I don't know how many times my dad told me as a kid(some times kidding, some times I'm not sure), "I brought you into this world, and I can take you out"

Best Cosby episode is when Theo wants to move out on his own and while he's gone they turn the Cosby house into the "real world".  Classic stuff
Title: Re: The Cos at MU
Post by: warriorchick on May 20, 2013, 08:19:48 AM
I guess I found it surprising that a guy who has been rather outspoken about the lack of proper decorum among today's youth would act so inappropriately at a ceremony that honored the best and brightest of these young people.
Title: Re: The Cos at MU
Post by: reinko on May 20, 2013, 08:47:17 AM
Quote from: warriorchick on May 20, 2013, 08:19:48 AM
I guess I found it surprising that a guy who has been rather outspoken about the lack of proper decorum among today's youth would act so inappropriately at a ceremony that honored the best and brightest of these young people.

?-(
Title: Re: The Cos at MU
Post by: GGGG on May 20, 2013, 09:39:44 AM
Quote from: warriorchick on May 20, 2013, 08:19:48 AM
I guess I found it surprising that a guy who has been rather outspoken about the lack of proper decorum among today's youth would act so inappropriately at a ceremony that honored the best and brightest of these young people.


Yeah, I see what you are saying, but I think you're overreacting.
Title: Re: The Cos at MU
Post by: GGGG on May 20, 2013, 09:40:08 AM
Quote from: PTM on May 20, 2013, 01:26:25 AM
Like I said, Cosby has never been funny.


That is false. 
Title: Re: The Cos at MU
Post by: keefe on May 21, 2013, 11:51:57 PM
Quote from: mu03eng on May 20, 2013, 08:09:13 AM
Cosby's Himself stand up is an American classic.  I don't know how many times my dad told me as a kid(some times kidding, some times I'm not sure), "I brought you into this world, and I can take you out"

Best Cosby episode is when Theo wants to move out on his own and while he's gone they turn the Cosby house into the "real world".  Classic stuff

Your father was not kidding. No sir.
Title: Re: The Cos at MU
Post by: Blue Horseshoe on May 22, 2013, 11:11:29 AM
The Cos in this month's issue of GQ. This year marks the 30th anniversary of Bill Cosby: Himself.
http://www.gq.com/entertainment/humor/201306/bill-cosby-himself-30th-anniversary-june-2013 (http://www.gq.com/entertainment/humor/201306/bill-cosby-himself-30th-anniversary-june-2013)

(http://www.gq.com/images/entertainment/2013/06/bill-cosby/bill-cosby-stand-up-concert-gq-magazine-628.jpg)
Title: Re: The Cos at MU
Post by: keefe on May 22, 2013, 12:16:49 PM
Quote from: Blue Horseshoe on May 22, 2013, 11:11:29 AM
The Cos in this month's issue of GQ. This year marks the 30th anniversary of Bill Cosby: Himself.
http://www.gq.com/entertainment/humor/201306/bill-cosby-himself-30th-anniversary-june-2013 (http://www.gq.com/entertainment/humor/201306/bill-cosby-himself-30th-anniversary-june-2013)

(http://www.gq.com/images/entertainment/2013/06/bill-cosby/bill-cosby-stand-up-concert-gq-magazine-628.jpg)

How unfortunate that Cosby "is not funny."

I am dumbfounded that Marquette, Yale, Amherst, Colgate, Berklee, Penn, Carnegie Mellon, Haverford, USC among others gave him Honorary Doctorates.

Seriously, this man is a contemporary Samuel Clemens or Will Rogers. His perspective is valuable for many reasons but what makes him a treasure is not just his ability to package biting commentary in piquant narratives but the courage he brings in detailing uncomfortable truths on race, justice, and accountability.
Title: Re: The Cos at MU
Post by: keefe on May 24, 2013, 10:51:54 AM
According to Goose Brell Cosby is also a Warrior fan
Title: Re: The Cos at MU
Post by: 77ncaachamps on May 25, 2013, 02:08:53 PM
Quote from: warriorchick on May 20, 2013, 01:21:15 AM
I thought his speech was good, but I thought for the most part, Bill Cosby acted rather disrespectfully.  Instead of wearing the appropriate PhD headwear, he had a Marquette ball cap with a tassel on it, which he waved above his head during the entire procession instead of walking solemnly like everyone else.  Then, when he began his talk, he took off his scholarly robes so that he could deliver his address in a sweatshirt and sweat pants.

Did someone fail to mention to him that this was a ceremony was to honor the graduates, not his nightclub act?

Hey....cut him some slack. He heeded the motto: "Be the Difference."
Title: Re: The Cos at MU
Post by: keefe on May 25, 2013, 07:00:31 PM
Quote from: WI_inferiority_complexes on May 20, 2013, 03:15:10 AM
I know for a fact Cosby has never made Jerry Wainwright smile.

I am told the reason Jerry Wainwright never smiles is not because of his soul-shattering experience at DePaul. Rather, he is a chain smoking, coffee swilling fiend whose dental condition has deteriorated to the catastrophic.

(http://frankthetank.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/jerry-wainwright-depaul-blue-demons.jpg)

(http://i.huffpost.com/gen/132016/thumbs/s-JERRY-WAINWRIGHT-FIRED-large.jpg)

(http://media.scout.com/Media/College_Mens_Basketball/385442_Wainright.JPG)

(http://www.phoenixcodepink.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Is-There-a-Relationship-Between-Oral-Health-and-Smoking.jpg)
Title: Re: The Cos at MU
Post by: 4everwarriors on May 25, 2013, 07:25:26 PM
Any one of you cats can feel free to give him my card.
Title: Re: The Cos at MU
Post by: keefe on May 25, 2013, 07:31:36 PM
Quote from: 4everwarriors on May 25, 2013, 07:25:26 PM
Any one of you cats can feel free to give him my card.

Your Magnum Opus, Doc? A life's craft honed to a razor's edge for precisely this moment...
Title: Re: The Cos at MU
Post by: muwarrior69 on May 27, 2013, 07:59:11 AM
Quote from: keefe on May 19, 2013, 10:53:55 PM
There is a profound difference between vulgarity for the sake of being coarse and using it to punctuate satirical social commentary. Lenny Bruce, Mort Sahl, Dick Gregory, George Carlin, Richard Pryor among others employed language designed to shock the audience into a greater awareness of genuine issues. Their unique brand of observational comedy helped post-industrial America come of age.

Too much of what passes for humor today is simply vulgar while at the same time being trite, droll, or inane.
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Agree! The great comics did not need to be vulgar to make you laugh. Red Skelton could make you laugh without saying a word. Sid Ceasar, Imogine Coca, Lucille Ball, Steve Allan, and probably the funniest of them all Ernie Kovac could make laugh until you are hyperventilating without  any vulgar language and sometimes just with a look.
Title: Re: The Cos at MU
Post by: GGGG on May 27, 2013, 08:18:50 AM
Quote from: muwarrior69 on May 27, 2013, 07:59:11 AM
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Agree! The great comics did not need to be vulgar to make you laugh. Red Skelton could make you laugh without saying a word. Sid Ceasar, Imogine Coca, Lucille Ball, Steve Allan, and probably the funniest of them all Ernie Kovac could make laugh until you are hyperventilating without  any vulgar language and sometimes just with a look.


None of these people really ever made me laugh.
Title: Re: The Cos at MU
Post by: WellsstreetWanderer on May 27, 2013, 10:14:27 AM
Might have been over your head. 
Title: Re: The Cos at MU
Post by: mu-rara on May 28, 2013, 10:03:23 AM
Quote from: muwarrior69 on May 27, 2013, 07:59:11 AM
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Agree! The great comics did not need to be vulgar to make you laugh. Red Skelton could make you laugh without saying a word. Sid Ceasar, Imogine Coca, Lucille Ball, Steve Allan, and probably the funniest of them all Ernie Kovac could make laugh until you are hyperventilating without  any vulgar language and sometimes just with a look.
Sid Ceasar with Mel Brooks.  That is all.
Title: Re: The Cos at MU
Post by: frozena pizza on May 28, 2013, 11:35:28 AM
Bill Cosby is hilarious and an excellent choice for a commencement speaker.  But I think Steve Rushin's commencement address at MU had to be the best ever.  A distinguished alum, brilliant writer and his columns have made me laugh out loud more times than I can count.
Title: Re: The Cos at MU
Post by: keefe on May 28, 2013, 06:48:07 PM
Quote from: muwarrior69 on May 27, 2013, 07:59:11 AM
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Agree! The great comics did not need to be vulgar to make you laugh. Red Skelton could make you laugh without saying a word. Sid Ceasar, Imogine Coca, Lucille Ball, Steve Allan, and probably the funniest of them all Ernie Kovac could make laugh until you are hyperventilating without  any vulgar language and sometimes just with a look.

Steve Allen was tremendously gifted in numerous artistic disciplines. He brought an academic rigor to comedy that distilled unwieldy concepts into digestible bites for the common man. His Meeting of the Minds on PBS remains as engaging, topical, and thought provoking today as it was when it was first broadcast more than 30 years ago.
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