In the other thread about MU raising its profile, the Business School's AIM program was mentioned.
AIM stands for Applied Investment Management. After your Sophomore year you have to apply to the program for your Junior and Senior year. 30 kids are taken. It is considered one of the top finance programs in the country. Nearly 100% are placed in a job before graduation (and nearly 100% have a summer internship between their Junior and Senior year). These kids do very well financially after graduation. (anyone from the AIM program please correct and/or expand on this description).
So this got me thinking (always dangerous) ... what other highly regarded UNDERGRADUATE programs does MU have? Can anyone enlighten?
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on May 08, 2013, 12:49:05 PM
In the other thread about MU raising its profile, the Business School's AIM program was mentioned.
AIM stands for Applied Investment Management. After your Sophomore year you have to apply to the program for your Junior and Senior year. 30 kids are taken. It is considered one of the top finance programs in the country. Nearly 100% are placed in a job before graduation (and nearly 100% have a summer internship between their Junior and Senior year). These kids do very well financially after graduation. (anyone from the AIM program please correct and/or expand on this description).
So this got me thinking (always dangerous) ... what other highly regarded UNDERGRADUATE programs does MU have? Can anyone enlighten?
The Supply Chain Management progrm is supposed to be top 15 in the country
AIM 2010 Grad here, not always 30 kids taken, I think it's closer to 25 but there also isn't a set number, if there aren't 25 qualified students then they don't take that many. Other thing to add is the program prepares you to take Level I of the CFA. I won't get into specifics on pay, some make more than others (depends what area of finance you go into) but I would assume pay is higher than a typical finance grad right out of school and the earnings growth after that is probably a steeper curve.
I was unaware of any similar programs in other majors at Marquette.
They should start introducing some of the MU alums in the NBA to former AIM grads. Many are in areas of investment management, I'm sure D Wade, Novak, Wes, and eventually Jimmy could use some of those services.
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on May 08, 2013, 12:49:05 PM
In the other thread about MU raising its profile, the Business School's AIM program was mentioned.
AIM stands for Applied Investment Management. After your Sophomore year you have to apply to the program for your Junior and Senior year. 30 kids are taken. It is considered one of the top finance programs in the country. Nearly 100% are placed in a job before graduation (and nearly 100% have a summer internship between their Junior and Senior year). These kids do very well financially after graduation. (anyone from the AIM program please correct and/or expand on this description).
So this got me thinking (always dangerous) ... what other highly regarded UNDERGRADUATE programs does MU have? Can anyone enlighten?
Accounting, top 25 in country. The biggest firms recruit from there, and that is a big deal.
I can vouch for the accounting. I graduated roughly last in my accounting class and passed the CPA on my 1st try. The national pass rate was about 8-10% for 1st time people back 20 years ago and Marquette's was way higher.
Quote from: Dunk The Ball Eric on May 08, 2013, 01:14:25 PM
They should start introducing some of the MU alums in the NBA to former AIM grads. Many are in areas of investment management, I'm sure D Wade, Novak, Wes, and eventually Jimmy could use some of those services.
Guy, get over yourself.
This only works with certain programs, I cannot imagine that by limiting the number of social work, art history, or romance language grads you would have any significant impact on starting hourly pay.
Quote from: Dunk The Ball Eric on May 08, 2013, 01:14:25 PM
AIM 2010 Grad here, not always 30 kids taken, I think it's closer to 25 but there also isn't a set number, if there aren't 25 qualified students then they don't take that many. Other thing to add is the program prepares you to take Level I of the CFA. I won't get into specifics on pay, some make more than others (depends what area of finance you go into) but I would assume pay is higher than a typical finance grad right out of school and the earnings growth after that is probably a steeper curve.
I was unaware of any similar programs in other majors at Marquette.
They should start introducing some of the MU alums in the NBA to former AIM grads. Many are in areas of investment management, I'm sure D Wade, Novak, Wes, and eventually Jimmy could use some of those services.
Yes - Jimmy's paltry $1m salary is below what most CFAs would want to attract as their clients.
Knew many in Physical Therapy during my undergrad years. Was a top 3-5 program back then. But I think they change the curriculum, now it's a 5 year program and you have your undergrad and masters degree when done. Probably still a top program.
Quote from: moomoo on May 08, 2013, 01:50:26 PM
Accounting, top 25 in country. The biggest firms recruit from there, and that is a big deal.
I heard a stat from an accounting alum the other day that Dr. Akers was a top 6 professor in terms of student's scores on the Audit section of the CPA exam. This is the first I've heard this and I've tried searching for it on the internet and hadn't found anything, but doesn't surprise me.
An MU alum in 2008 and another in 2009 won the Elijah Watt Sells award.
The undergraduate real estate program is relatively new, so it's still too young to have built up a "national" reputation; however, the program did have a 100% placement rate - in real estate careers, no less - for last year's graduates... if they keep that up, they're definitely going to be widely-recognized on a national level very soon. Nevertheless, most top-flight real estate programs are at the graduate level, not to mention that very few offer a focused real estate curriculum for undergrads, so MU is probably somewhere in the top 10-15 programs in the country already.
Not exactly on topic, but Marquette checks in at 123 out of 3500 colleges for ROI. Basically the main article says the top 150 colleges are worth the investment. I think UW-Madison is around 150. The top schools are the usual suspects and engineering schools for the obvious reasons.
http://www.payscale.com/college-education-value-2012
Marquette in at 220 on an updated 2013 list:
http://www.payscale.com/college-education-value-2013
Overall, the engineering school isn't very highly ranked (#132) but the biomedical engineering program is considered very good.
Quote from: lurch91 on May 08, 2013, 02:50:32 PM
Knew many in Physical Therapy during my undergrad years. Was a top 3-5 program back then. But I think they change the curriculum, now it's a 5 year program and you have your undergrad and masters degree when done. Probably still a top program.
PT is a 6 year program. You get an undergraduate degree by the end of your 4th year and a doctorate in PT at the end of 6 years. Top 20 program in the nation at the moment.
Quote from: esard2011 on May 08, 2013, 03:19:33 PM
PT is a 6 year program. You get an undergraduate degree by the end of your 4th year and a doctorate in PT at the end of 6 years. Top 20 program in the nation at the moment.
Thanks knew it had changed but wasn't sure on the particulars.
Quote from: muarmy81 on May 08, 2013, 03:16:30 PM
Overall, the engineering school isn't very highly ranked (#132) but the biomedical engineering program is considered very good.
Engineering school is ranked low due to lack of research overall, but the Civil program is highly regarded as well. The Discovery Learning Center will help improve that.
Quote from: muarmy81 on May 08, 2013, 03:16:30 PM
Overall, the engineering school isn't very highly ranked (#132) but the biomedical engineering program is considered very good.
As a kid that will be attending marquette next year the engineering rankings are all standarded base scores
Purdue which isn't much different than marquette IMO is a top school
Class size is small at marquette which is good and the co op program makes finding jobs after college easier
From and undergrad perspective the engineering school is topnotch. An MU EE or ME will almost certainly make more than and MU AIM student upon graduation
Quote from: Benny B on May 08, 2013, 03:05:55 PM
The undergraduate real estate program is relatively new, so it's still too young to have built up a "national" reputation; however, the program did have a 100% placement rate - in real estate careers, no less - for last year's graduates... if they keep that up, they're definitely going to be widely-recognized on a national level very soon. Nevertheless, most top-flight real estate programs are at the graduate level, not to mention that very few offer a focused real estate curriculum for undergrads, so MU is probably somewhere in the top 10-15 programs in the country already.
100% placement in real estate? Isn't that like being a "financial advisor" for NML or Mass mutual straight out of school?
Quote from: WarriorInDC on May 08, 2013, 02:53:51 PM
I heard a stat from an accounting alum the other day that Dr. Akers was a top 6 professor in terms of student's scores on the Audit section of the CPA exam. This is the first I've heard this and I've tried searching for it on the internet and hadn't found anything, but doesn't surprise me.
An MU alum in 2008 and another in 2009 won the Elijah Watt Sells award.
I have no idea how they would determine this stat. I don't remember anywhere on the CPA app saying who you had for auditing and a lot of students have up to 3 audit teachers. My guess this is a someone's opinion that turned into a ranking?
Quote from: marquette20 on May 08, 2013, 05:56:21 PM
As a kid that will be attending marquette next year the engineering rankings are all standarded base scores
Purdue which isn't much different than marquette IMO is a top school
Class size is small at marquette which is good and the co op program makes finding jobs after college easier
No worries...I'm an ME grad from the engineering school so I was trying to be unbiased with my response. That being said, you will do just fine with an engineering degree from MU. :)
Have yet to meet a fellow MU Eng student that was not doing well and that is after 25 years in the field
Son is graduating next week was interviewed and offered a job about two months ago. He accepted the offer for 57K (Electrical Engineering).
Quote from: RideMyBuycks on May 08, 2013, 01:07:24 PM
The Supply Chain Management progrm is supposed to be top 15 in the country
The supply chain management program is indeed pretty good.
I've long thought that Milwaukee should be a (the?) manufacturing hub for the 21st century (e.g., making high-end medical equipment), focusing especially on supply chain management and engineering (and quality engineering).
Milwaukee has three respectable engineering schools in its city limits (UWM, MSOE, and MU) as well as three supply chain management programs (same three schools). I don't know about MSOE's, but I know MUs and UWM's supply chain programs are solid to say the least, each focusing on the decision sciences. If data is the new oil, then supply chain management/decision sciences will be a hot field as time goes on and MU could reap the rewards if it keeps up the program. Plus, Milwaukee is home to the American Society for Quality (ASQ) so the potential is there.
In addition to the supply chain program, I know that the econ students always put up a respectable showing at the annual Fed Challenge at the Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago (though we always lose to Northwestern).
Quote from: PJDunn on May 08, 2013, 05:58:46 PM
From and undergrad perspective the engineering school is topnotch. An MU EE or ME will almost certainly make more than and MU AIM student upon graduation
Quote from: newsdrms on May 08, 2013, 08:05:51 PM
Son is graduating next week was interviewed and offered a job about two months ago. He accepted the offer for 57K (Electrical Engineering).
Nothing against newsdrms's son, as that is fantastic (both the job and the salary), but if that's typical, EE's aren't coming close to the AIM students. Depends on the type of finance, but it's not uncommon for AIM grads to have a 6 figure starting salary.
I graduated double majoring in English and secondary education. I teach at a Catholic high school 1.5 miles away which I ride my bicycle to everyday. I'm not young and I make under 50K a year, but have an absolutely off-the-charts quality of life. I'm very proud of the program for which I graduated, and consider it a "top program."
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Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on May 08, 2013, 07:35:56 PM
100% placement in real estate? Isn't that like being a "financial advisor" for NML or Mass mutual straight out of school?
Ziggy... What you might think is a jab or low blow is ignorant. 12 years at Northwestern Mutual right out of college has been the best accident of my career. All the "advisors" I know started somewhere, and the two companies you mentioned are two great ones for the right people. It's a tough road at the brokerage houses, insurance companies, banks, independent groups regardless of where one starts out of college... But extremely rewarding for those who stick.
Quote from: martyconlonontherun on May 08, 2013, 07:50:34 PM
I have no idea how they would determine this stat. I don't remember anywhere on the CPA app saying who you had for auditing and a lot of students have up to 3 audit teachers. My guess this is a someone's opinion that turned into a ranking?
Yeah, that was my thought exactly. The person who told I know pretty well, and doesn't like to BS around, so I took it somewhat seriously, but not quite sure how that would be backed up.
Though I do think Akers, at least while I was enrolling in that class, was the only professor teaching audit at MU.
Quote from: drewm88 on May 08, 2013, 11:11:49 PM
Nothing against newsdrms's son, as that is fantastic (both the job and the salary), but if that's typical, EE's aren't coming close to the AIM students. Depends on the type of finance, but it's not uncommon for AIM grads to have a 6 figure starting salary.
Just brought it up as an example since engineering was being discussed. That salary is about average for a starting EE. Tops is about 60K to 65K. The point really was that he got a job offer two months prior to graduation. Even after he took the offer other companies where calling to interview him so I guess engineering graduates from Marquette are in high demand. Comparing AIM students salaries to other "normal" graduates seems like would be a bit of the charts since it is a very selective program for top notch students. In that case companies are expecting top talent. Guess they figure they are minimizing risk, so probably more demand than supply, and a premium is paid.
Engineering and business always have been pretty good. Marquette's reputation in both, particularly civil engineering as a previous poster noted, is very good. The AIM program is outstanding and has a wonderful reputation. Given the large amount of money management that historically has occurred in Milwaukee, this makes sense.
I'll call out the "old" College of Journalism as a better program than it is often credited as being. My undergraduate degree in the late 1970s was in Journalism. Nine years later, I was awarded an MBA from Loyola in Chicago (even though I never had a mathematics, statistics or quant class at Marquette) and have been working in corporate finance and analysis ever since. What the old Journalism school provided was an excellent education and a practical approach to what we now call "due diligence." People like John Vivian and even ole Luke Staudaucher taught you to think about what was important in an issue/story and how to communicate it.
When you see the number of Marquette Journalists from my era in prominent positions nationally, the old guys we sometimes thought weren't relevant were doing something right!
I'm afraid the current College of Communications, with the rumored "reporting optional" classes and emphasis on blogging, social media and technology is becoming a very expensive trade school.
I'm a 2007 AIM alum. The salaries and bonus packages are extremely variable for AIM graduates. It depends on the position you accept but there is the possibility to be in or near the six figure range shortly after graduation. Additionally, the career options are vast. I can't imagine too many other programs (at MU or elsewhere) that have maintained a near 100% job placement rate over this five year recession.
That being said, I know a lot of PT and nursing grads. that do very well too.
In general, I think the college rating systems are arbitrary. Many of them are based on research publications made by the professors which could have no correlation to actual job options. Talk to many alumni if you want a true evaluation of a school or program.
Glad you guys are doing well and these majors are well recognized. Pilarz needs about $700 mil, so get ready to open up your wallets.
Quote from: dgies9156 on May 09, 2013, 09:17:48 AM
I'll call out the "old" College of Journalism as a better program than it is often credited as being. My undergraduate degree in the late 1970s was in Journalism. Nine years later, I was awarded an MBA from Loyola in Chicago (even though I never had a mathematics, statistics or quant class at Marquette) and have been working in corporate finance and analysis ever since. What the old Journalism school provided was an excellent education and a practical approach to what we now call "due diligence." People like John Vivian and even ole Luke Staudaucher taught you to think about what was important in an issue/story and how to communicate it.
When you see the number of Marquette Journalists from my era in prominent positions nationally, the old guys we sometimes thought weren't relevant were doing something right!
I'm afraid the current College of Communications, with the rumored "reporting optional" classes and emphasis on blogging, social media and technology is becoming a very expensive trade school.
+1 Journ '83 grad here. I really appreciate guys like Staudaucher more as the years go by. Guys like James Arnold, Warren Bovee, George Reedy, really added a lot to the experience.
The dental school is an excellent program. It has modern, high-quality facilities with a current $16 million expansion taking place. It is also the only dental school in the state. Very diverse patient base in Milwaukee with incredibly high and sometimes complicated treatment needs.
Quote from: blaster on May 09, 2013, 09:37:55 AM
I really appreciate guys like Staudaucher more as the years go by.
So do I and if you'd asked me in 1975 or 1976 if I thought Luke Staudaucher would be one of the better influences on my ability to understand "how" and "why," I'd would have laughed you right off the planet. So much for immaturity!
Staudaucher taught an often dry topic (copy editing and production), but his focus on "what is news" and "news judgment" was lasting. His thought provoking questioning is something that's more relevant than ever today when the blogosphere is becoming our chosen choice for news media.
Now, did anyone ever get anything other than a "C" in J-2?
Quote from: dgies9156 on May 09, 2013, 09:50:24 AM
So do I and if you'd asked me in 1975 or 1976 if I thought Luke Staudaucher would be one of the better influences on my ability to understand "how" and "why," I'd would have laughed you right off the planet. So much for immaturity!
Staudaucher taught an often dry topic (copy editing and production), but his focus on "what is news" and "news judgment" was lasting. His thought provoking questioning is something that's more relevant than ever today when the blogosphere is becoming our chosen choice for news media.
Now, did anyone ever get anything other than a "C" in J-2?
I would have said the same thing if someone told me that back in '83.
Seeing what is passing for Journalism out there now makes me wonder what is being taught currently in the Communications school. I see the College just received some big funding to look into 'social justice' aspects of Journalism. Yeah, maybe they should stick with 'what is news' and 'news judgement' and work up from there.
Quote from: dgies9156 on May 09, 2013, 09:50:24 AM
Now, did anyone ever get anything other than a "C" in J-2?
That was the best you could get!
Quote from: WarriorInDC on May 08, 2013, 02:53:51 PM
I heard a stat from an accounting alum the other day that Dr. Akers was a top 6 professor in terms of student's scores on the Audit section of the CPA exam. This is the first I've heard this and I've tried searching for it on the internet and hadn't found anything, but doesn't surprise me.
Don't have sources, but I've heard it mentioned several times that MU accounting alums had some of the top performances on various parts of the CPA exam. I remember hearing one year they were number one overall, must've been about 8-10 years ago?
Quote from: sixstrings03 on May 08, 2013, 02:45:28 PM
Yes - Jimmy's paltry $1m salary is below what most CFAs would want to attract as their clients.
CFAs don't advise clients, generally. They analyze (emphasis on anal) companies, and make larger portfolio decisions, usually for larger institutions.
Quote from: chapman on May 09, 2013, 10:11:32 AM
Don't have sources, but I've heard it mentioned several times that MU accounting alums had some of the top performances on various parts of the CPA exam. I remember hearing one year they were number one overall, must've been about 8-10 years ago?
That makes more sense, though it doesn't look like they were number 1 for the last decade. WF had that the past decade. http://www.accountingtoday.com/acto_blog/wake-forest-university-cpa-exam-pass-rate-record-64902-1.html
I think it was last year that they had one student not pass. Would suck to be that person.
Quote from: ElDonBDon on May 08, 2013, 09:49:25 PM
The supply chain management program is indeed pretty good.
I've long thought that Milwaukee should be a (the?) manufacturing hub for the 21st century (e.g., making high-end medical equipment), focusing especially on supply chain management and engineering (and quality engineering).
I hope MU continues to invest in the SCM program. It's a growing industry and salaries and opportunities are on the rise. It seems like MU already has a leg up on a lot of leading schools, hopefully they continue it.
The biomedical engineering program was one of the first around, at least from what I could find when I was looking at college (started at MU in 1995). Even Purdue didn't have one at the time, which, for a guy from Indiana, was a huge surprise - we'd heard time and time again how great Purdue's engineering college was. I believe Purdue does have a biomed program now, and I'm sure it is just as good as the rest of its programs.
And any engineering major that doesn't try to take advantage of the co-op program is insane. It got me my first job out of college (hired before I even started my last year at MU), which helped me move to the legal field after law school (night school) almost entirely because of my history at my first employer. I can't say enough positive things about having done the co-op program. An added bonus is that you have more disposable income than your friends!
Quote from: martyconlonontherun on May 09, 2013, 10:17:09 AM
That makes more sense, though it doesn't look like they were number 1 for the last decade. WF had that the past decade. http://www.accountingtoday.com/acto_blog/wake-forest-university-cpa-exam-pass-rate-record-64902-1.html
I think it was last year that they had one student not pass. Would suck to be that person.
That's an interesting statistic though there because those are from students earning an MSA at Wake Forest instead of an undergraduate degree and then sitting for the CPA exam. I know many MU students just obtain an undergraduate degree, get 150 hours, then sit. Several others may obtain an MBA, but hardly an MSA (I really see no need for an MSA if you're getting your CPA).
I know BYU is year-in and year-out one of the top accounting schools in the country.
Quote from: chapman on May 09, 2013, 10:11:32 AM
Don't have sources, but I've heard it mentioned several times that MU accounting alums had some of the top performances on various parts of the CPA exam. I remember hearing one year they were number one overall, must've been about 8-10 years ago?
I don't know if it's still the case, but part of the credit for the high pass rate in my year (1984) had to go to an amazing independent prep course that was put on by three professors, one of whom was a Business Law Prof at Marquette (can't think of his name right now) and two others that I believe were from UWM. They would teach it on Saturdays in the auditorium of the old Concordia College. My entire incoming "class" at Arthur Young took it, no matter what school they graduated from. Out of the 19 of us, 17 passed the whole thing on the first try (including 3 who were in the top 100 nationally in terms of their scores).
Those guys probably raised the CPA pass rate of every Accounting program in Wisconsin.
Quote from: warriorchick on May 09, 2013, 01:16:30 PM
I don't know if it's still the case, but part of the credit for the high pass rate in my year (1984) had to go to an amazing independent prep course that was put on by three professors, one of whom was a Business Law Prof at Marquette (can't think of his name right now) and two others that I believe were from UWM. They would teach it on Saturdays in the auditorium of the old Concordia College. My entire incoming "class" at Arthur Young took it, no matter what school they graduated from. Out of the 19 of us, 17 passed the whole thing on the first try (including 3 who were in the top 100 nationally in terms of their scores).
Those guys probably raised the CPA pass rate of every Accounting program in Wisconsin.
Tim Rueth? Paul Fisher?
Quote from: mu-rara on May 09, 2013, 01:18:12 PM
Tim Rueth? Paul Fisher?
Pretty sure it was Rueth. Glasses, big shaggy hair, hysterically funny?
It was Tim Rueth and he was the best. One of the biggest friends of the program for many years. Has a son at MU currently.
Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on May 08, 2013, 07:35:56 PM
100% placement in real estate? Isn't that like being a "financial advisor" for NML or Mass mutual straight out of school?
AFAIK, NML doesn't do anything on the consulting side; everything is on their own balance sheet, so they'd probably be analysts rather than advisors.
Only thing I remember about the CPA exam is dashing out of the MECCA and running straight to Major Goolsby's.
MU has a bit of an advantage IMO in that they are near the (now) Big Four offices. For those who were "matched" for an internship you didn't have to move/rent some other place for a semester while working (whereas a uw-madison often would look to find an apt in Milwaukee)... this is probably an advantage for many Jesuits schools.
Quote from: slingkong on May 09, 2013, 11:27:12 AM
The biomedical engineering program was one of the first around, at least from what I could find when I was looking at college (started at MU in 1995). Even Purdue didn't have one at the time, which, for a guy from Indiana, was a huge surprise - we'd heard time and time again how great Purdue's engineering college was. I believe Purdue does have a biomed program now, and I'm sure it is just as good as the rest of its programs.
And any engineering major that doesn't try to take advantage of the co-op program is insane. It got me my first job out of college (hired before I even started my last year at MU), which helped me move to the legal field after law school (night school) almost entirely because of my history at my first employer. I can't say enough positive things about having done the co-op program. An added bonus is that you have more disposable income than your friends!
Biomedical Eng. started earlier than that at Marquette here is the link - http://www.marquette.edu/engineering/biomedical/history.shtml
Quote from: newsdrms on May 09, 2013, 09:12:31 PM
Biomedical Eng. started earlier than that at Marquette here is the link - http://www.marquette.edu/engineering/biomedical/history.shtml
Right after I finished my PhD at Marquette in 1987 I worked for Dr. Linehan at the Milwaukee VA in his pulmonary lab in 1987 and two Physiologists from the Medical College of Wisconsin. Since then I've continued my graduate work in engineering at University of Minnesota, Purdue and Penn State. Marquette prepared me well.
Quote from: Jay Bee on May 09, 2013, 09:02:19 PM
Only thing I remember about the CPA exam is dashing out of the MECCA and running straight to Major Goolsby's.
MU has a bit of an advantage IMO in that they are near the (now) Big Four offices. For those who were "matched" for an internship you didn't have to move/rent some other place for a semester while working (whereas a uw-madison often would look to find an apt in Milwaukee)... this is probably an advantage for many Jesuits schools.
Not only that, but I think being located in a city helps out the College of Business tremendously. There are many more opportunities for internships being located in a large city. I know that was a determining factor when I chose MU.
Quote from: slingkong on May 09, 2013, 11:27:12 AM
And any engineering major that doesn't try to take advantage of the co-op program is insane.
I chose (not entirely my decision) the internship route. It worked out tremendously, as I still had work experience on my resume when looking for "real" jobs and I had a year's headstart on the co-op students.
That said, any engineering major that doesn't try to get pre-graduation work experience is insane.
Quote from: Goose on May 09, 2013, 03:16:43 PM
It was Tim Rueth and he was the best. One of the biggest friends of the program for many years. Has a son at MU currently.
Anyone know what he's doing now?
Tim has been working in his family's construction/real estare biz since leaving MU. He looks the same and possibly even funnier than 1984.
Quote from: Goose on May 10, 2013, 11:20:51 AM
Tim has been working in his family's construction/real estare biz since leaving MU. He looks the same and possibly even funnier than 1984.
Hard to believe he could be more funny...Really good teacher. Reuth, Joe Fox and Dave Schlichting coulda had a career in standup.
Never knew the details, but Tim had a strong connection to hoops. Story was, he had a big part in landing Doc.
Quote from: Steve Buscemi on May 10, 2013, 08:29:05 AM
I chose (not entirely my decision) the internship route. It worked out tremendously, as I still had work experience on my resume when looking for "real" jobs and I had a year's headstart on the co-op students.
That said, any engineering major that doesn't try to get pre-graduation work experience is insane.
One of the biggest things that pisses me off about the COE is the co-op program. It's a great program, but it's also overstated. Sue does so much shoving it down students throats that they are transfixed on finding co-op opportunities.
Realistically, civil firms and construction companies are looking for this type of help in the Summer, ya know, when construction is actually happening. However, when you're at the career fair offering a internship for one of the largest contractors in the State, students are interested because they are over sold on the co-op program. Also, if you intern in the Summer you still graduate in four years.
Listen jackholes, I don't need someone else to do nothing with during the Winter months.
Rueth was very big part of MU buckets during his time at MU. He was big part of us getting many recruits over the years. Agreed on hard to believe he could be funnier, but he was. Have had opportunity to spend some time a couple of times over last year and had us laughing the whole time.
Quote from: PTM on May 10, 2013, 11:52:57 AM
One of the biggest things that pisses me off about the COE is the co-op program. It's a great program, but it's also overstated. Sue did so much shoving it down students throats that they are transfixed on finding co-op opportunities.
Realistically, civil firms and construction companies are looking for this type of help in the Summer, ya know, when construction is actually happening. However, when you're at the career fair offering a internship for one of the largest contractors in the State, students are interested because they are over sold on the co-op program. Also, if you intern in the Summer you still graduate in four years.
Listen jackholes, I don't need someone else to do nothing with during the Winter months.
FIFY. The only benefits of a 5th year would have been more socializing and cheaper tickets for away/tourney games. As a Civil Grad, there's nothing different from an employers perspective between an internship and a co-op.
Quote from: Steve Buscemi on May 10, 2013, 12:23:19 PM
FIFY. The only benefits of a 5th year would have been more socializing and cheaper tickets for away/tourney games. As a Civil Grad, there's nothing different from an employers perspective between an internship and a co-op.
I agree that there is no difference between the Co-op and an internship. One of the nice things about a co-op from the student's perspective is an almost guaranteed position as opposed to potentially having to reapply each year. I know interns often have an easier time returning to a company from year to year as well. The biggest benefits for me were actually staying in college another year and the paycheck. I was definitely not ready to leave college after four, but after five I was ready.
Quote from: Steve Buscemi on May 10, 2013, 12:23:19 PM
FIFY. The only benefits of a 5th year would have been more socializing and cheaper tickets for away/tourney games. As a Civil Grad, there's nothing different from an employers perspective between an internship and a co-op.
Sue did? Is she gone from MU now?
Quote from: chuncken on May 10, 2013, 01:56:45 PM
Sue did? Is she gone from MU now?
Yes she left. She retired three or four years ago. Saw her when I took my S for accepted student visit. Told her I remembered her from '83. She told me she was retiring don't recall if it was going to be that year or the next.
Quote from: mu-rara on May 10, 2013, 11:37:38 AM
Hard to believe he could be more funny...Really good teacher. Reuth, Joe Fox and Dave Schlichting coulda had a career in standup.
Never knew the details, but Tim had a strong connection to hoops. Story was, he had a big part in landing Doc.
Well I can tell you that Joe Fox is doing his stand-up routine in St. Louis now - and flying his Warrior flag all season long.
Joe fox
Who has better shtick, you or Rueth?
Quote from: newsdrms on May 10, 2013, 02:57:31 PM
Yes she left. She retired three or four years ago. Saw her when I took my S for accepted student visit. Told her I remembered her from '83. She told me she was retiring don't recall if it was going to be that year or the next.
Actually, if I recall it right, she retired in 2011. I set her up with a big company to try and work them into the co-op program. I went co-op and then to law school and could not be happier with the experience. I am sure interning is fine as well. I was very pleased with the program and hope they can bring the new engineering building(s) to full fruition soon (I believe the first is still unfinished and they are not breaking ground on the second until they get the first one done). If you don't donate to the school, please do because these buildings will go a long way to helping MU reach its goals.
Quote from: joe fox on May 10, 2013, 03:13:44 PM
Well I can tell you that Joe Fox is doing his stand-up routine in St. Louis now - and flying his Warrior flag all season long.
Joe Fox for President of SLU....as long as you're in St. Louis.
Per wikipedia...
College of Arts & Sciences
For 2014, US News and World Report ranked several of the college's graduate degree programs. Biological sciences at Marquette ranked as 181st overall and the chemistry program was 140th.[39] Clinical psychology ranked 79th, psychology ranked 158th, English ranked 98th and history was 110th.[39]
College of Business Administration and the Graduate School of Management
Overall, Marquette's undergraduate program ranked 77th in BusinessWeek's 2013 rankings.[40] U.S. News listed Marquette's undergraduate majors in supply chain management as 16th, finance as 17th, accounting as 23rd and the entrepreneurship program as 24th nationwide.[37]
U.S. News put Marquette's graduate international business program at 22nd overall in 2013 and the executive MBA program ranked 15th.[37] For 2014, the part-time MBA program was ranked 50th.[41]
College of Nursing
In 2012, U.S. News listed the College of Nursing graduate program as the 44th best in the country, while its nursing-midwifery program was 19th nationally.[32] The College has one of only five doctorate programs in the U.S. with a "teacher/scholar" focus.[42]
College of Education
The College of Education's graduate degree was most recently ranked 65th overall by U.S. News, up from 79th.[32][39]
College of Engineering
The school's graduate biomedical engineering program was ranked 53rd in 2013 by U.S. News & World Report.[37]
College of Health Sciences
The physical therapy program was ranked 12th in the nation in 2013 by U.S. News & World Report, and the physician assistant program was ranked 42nd.[37] The speech-language pathology program was ranked 62nd in the nation in 2013 as well.[32]
Law School
The Marquette Law School ranked among the top 100 schools, according to U.S. News, with its dispute resolution program ranking 7th and its part-time law degree ranking 19th.[32] The legal writing program was 22nd overall.[37]
Quote from: Victor McCormick on May 13, 2013, 02:47:42 PM
Per wikipedia...
College of Business Administration and the Graduate School of Management
Overall, Marquette's undergraduate program ranked 77th in BusinessWeek's 2013 rankings.[40] U.S. News listed Marquette's undergraduate majors in supply chain management as 16th, finance as 17th, accounting as 23rd and the entrepreneurship program as 24th nationwide.[37]
So our College of Business is ranked 77th, but we have four programs within the COB in the Top 25?
Boy, our Marketing and Human Resources programs must suck........
Quote from: warriorchick on May 13, 2013, 03:03:02 PM
So our College of Business is ranked 77th, but we have four programs within the COB in the Top 25?
Boy, our Marketing and Human Resources programs must suck........
+1
I was just going to make the same comment. How can this be?
Quote from: dgies9156 on May 09, 2013, 09:17:48 AM
Given the large amount of money management that historically has occurred in Milwaukee, this makes sense.
I am not sure this is quite accurate. I have worked in international finance and Milwaukee was never a factor that I am aware. You may be referencing NML and Strong's enterprise but even then Milwaukee has very few assets under management. It is simply not a player in global finance.
Quote from: keefe on May 13, 2013, 04:00:40 PM
I am not sure this is quite accurate. I have lived and worked in London, Tokyo, Hong Kong, and Singapore and we never asked how the Euro was moving in Milwaukee...
You're referring to currency trading, not money management. And a
lot of money has been managed in Milwaukee, most people simply don't realize it... primary examples are/were NML, Stark, Baird, Firstar, M&I, MGIC, etc. (I know I'm even missing a few)
Quote from: Benny B on May 13, 2013, 04:28:39 PM
You're referring to currency trading, not money management. And a lot of money has been managed in Milwaukee, most people simply don't realize it... primary examples are/were NML, Stark, Baird, Firstar, M&I, MGIC, etc. (I know I'm even missing a few)
I changed it after I initially posted. I ran hedging operations to manage forex risk because the Yen is so volatile but our main business was Asset Management. Milwaukee is simply not that big in terms of assets under management. Tokyo moves more assets before noon in a typical trading day than Milwaukee has total assets under management.
Quote from: keefe on May 13, 2013, 04:39:10 PM
I changed it after I initially posted. I ran hedging operations to manage forex risk because the Yen is so volatile but our main business was Asset Management. Milwaukee is simply not that big in terms of assets under management. Tokyo moves more assets before noon in a typical trading day than Milwaukee has total assets under management.
I'd sure as hell hope Tokyo is moving more assets than Milwaukee.
Mayor Barrett's trolley won't move as many asses as Tokyo either.
You down with light rail to your crib, chief?
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on May 13, 2013, 03:04:59 PM
+1
I was just going to make the same comment. How can this be?
Different rankings. The overall is BusinessWeek, the individual programs are US News. They probably have slightly different criteria.
Quote from: Benny B on May 13, 2013, 04:28:39 PM
You're referring to currency trading, not money management. And a lot of money has been managed in Milwaukee, most people simply don't realize it... primary examples are/were NML, Stark, Baird, Firstar, M&I, MGIC, etc. (I know I'm even missing a few)
Artisan, Fiduciary Management, Heartland, Wells Fargo.
Quote from: keefe on May 13, 2013, 04:39:10 PM
I changed it after I initially posted. I ran hedging operations to manage forex risk because the Yen is so volatile but our main business was Asset Management. Milwaukee is simply not that big in terms of assets under management. Tokyo moves more assets before noon in a typical trading day than Milwaukee has total assets under management.
Many high quality money managers. Not the biggest, but among the best.
Quote from: keefe on May 13, 2013, 04:39:10 PM
Tokyo moves more assets before noon in a typical trading day than Milwaukee has total assets under management.
And the Miami Heat has more talented players than Marquette does.
Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on May 14, 2013, 08:29:41 AM
I'd sure as hell hope Tokyo is moving more assets than Milwaukee.
Mayor Barrett's trolley won't move as many asses as Tokyo either.
Seattle put in a light rail system that was originally named the South Lake Union Trolley.
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Quote from: Victor McCormick on May 13, 2013, 02:47:42 PM
Per wikipedia...
College of Arts & Sciences
For 2014, US News and World Report ranked several of the college's graduate degree programs. ... Clinical psychology ranked 79th, psychology ranked 158th....
A little confused by this, since MU only has a clinical psych program and not a general psych program