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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: MileHigh on September 25, 2007, 10:31:29 PM

Title: Jerseys??
Post by: MileHigh on September 25, 2007, 10:31:29 PM
From what I am hearing around campus, there will be 4 different Jersey colors this year.  Yellow, White, Navy and the new Powder Blue.  But that is not all...the team will have special uniforms for the Maui Invitational in all 4 colors plus another set of uniforms for Big East games in all 4 colors too.   Anyone else hearing this?
Title: Re: Jerseys??
Post by: muwarrior87 on September 25, 2007, 10:37:13 PM
first i'm hearing about it.
Title: Re: Jerseys??
Post by: murocky01 on September 25, 2007, 11:02:15 PM
Isn't this a little overboard with the uni's?  Four different color schemes, sounds like a merchandising ploy.  How about some throwback uniforms to the '77 season...
Title: Re: Jerseys??
Post by: 77ncaachamps on September 26, 2007, 12:20:31 AM
Quote from: murocky01 on September 25, 2007, 11:02:15 PM
Isn't this a little overboard with the uni's?  Four different color schemes, sounds like a merchandising ploy.  How about some throwback uniforms to the '77 season...

That was already done.

I think there will be:

1 - home
1 - away
1 - third jersey (like the NFL, NHL, etc.)
1 - Retro

I did a poll on which ones people preferred...

http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=3741.0

Looks like 1974 won!

Again, I do believe back in 1997 that there were retro jerseys worn by the players.
Title: Re: Jerseys??
Post by: bma725 on September 26, 2007, 01:16:19 AM
Quote from: 77ncaachamps on September 26, 2007, 12:20:31 AM
Quote from: murocky01 on September 25, 2007, 11:02:15 PM
Isn't this a little overboard with the uni's?  Four different color schemes, sounds like a merchandising ploy.  How about some throwback uniforms to the '77 season...

That was already done.

I think there will be:

1 - home
1 - away
1 - third jersey (like the NFL, NHL, etc.)
1 - Retro

I did a poll on which ones people preferred...

http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=3741.0

Looks like 1974 won!

Again, I do believe back in 1997 that there were retro jerseys worn by the players.


There were throwback uniforms back then to celebrate the 30th anniversary of the championship.  They had the white jersey with gold shorts, which was one of a couple different combinations worn in 1977. 

The Journal used to have pics from back then on their site but they have taken them down.  I was able to find them using archive.org but I'm not sure if the link will work.  If they don't show up and someone wants to tell me how to upload it, I can do that.

Chris Crawford in the Throwback
(http://web.archive.org/web/20030916043559/www.jsonline.com/sports/arc/marq/image/crawford302.jpg)

Marcus West
(http://web.archive.org/web/20000818120749/www.jsonline.com/sports/arc/marq/image/west302.jpg)
Title: Re: Jerseys??
Post by: Chili on September 26, 2007, 08:23:01 AM
Quote from: murocky01 on September 25, 2007, 11:02:15 PM
Isn't this a little overboard with the uni's?  Four different color schemes, sounds like a merchandising ploy.  How about some throwback uniforms to the '77 season...

MU may end up like Oregon football with their jersey's in being a test for Converse with basketball. I think it is kind of cool to keep things fresh. Hey, at least MU might go back to having some of the best and most unique uni's in all of the CBB world.
Title: Re: Jerseys??
Post by: Canned Goods n Ammo on September 26, 2007, 09:24:46 AM
Quote from: Chili on September 26, 2007, 08:23:01 AM
Quote from: murocky01 on September 25, 2007, 11:02:15 PM
Isn't this a little overboard with the uni's?  Four different color schemes, sounds like a merchandising ploy.  How about some throwback uniforms to the '77 season...

MU may end up like Oregon football with their jersey's in being a test for Converse with basketball. I think it is kind of cool to keep things fresh. Hey, at least MU might go back to having some of the best and most unique uni's in all of the CBB world.

That would be my guess as well. At this point, MU is the flagship (and only) team wearing team Wade gear.

MU does have a tradition of having very progressive uniform designs. Personally, I like more of a classic look but I know that being fresh and different is the tradition at MU (so I guess that is "classic" in a way).

I'm excited and nervous to see the uniforms. I mean, at the end of the day they are just a shirt and shorts... but if they are ugly or too weird, it'll be a little distracting to watch for a whole season.
Title: Re: Jerseys??
Post by: Ahoya06 on September 26, 2007, 03:42:26 PM
I'm a little worried too. I've always thought "if it ain't broke, don't fix it," and always liked the uniforms we've had since '04.

That said, MU has historically been pretty solid with the new unis that they roll out, so I guess we should have faith that they will look good, especially with DWade's stamp of approval!

Think the new chicken's going to be on it? Personally, I hope they stick with the monogram on the shorts. Very classy.
Title: Re: Jerseys??
Post by: muwarrior87 on September 26, 2007, 04:05:51 PM
PLEASE NO EAGLE.

stay with the monogrammed MU on the shorts. Much classier and better looking than that stupid eagle.
Title: Re: Jerseys??
Post by: Canned Goods n Ammo on September 26, 2007, 04:14:05 PM
Quote from: muwarrior87 on September 26, 2007, 04:05:51 PM
PLEASE NO EAGLE.

stay with the monogrammed MU on the shorts. Much classier and better looking than that stupid eagle.

I agree... and my gut tells me that the MU monogram is going to be the primarily logo for a long time. MU has spent a lot of time and money to get that logo developed and recognized.

Using the secondary eagle logo in any sort of premier location (on the uniform, on the floor, press releases, etc.) would be a mistake.

I personally don't care for the secondary logo, but I'm not against it as long as it is used in a limited fashion (shirts, hats, etc.)
Title: Re: Jerseys??
Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on September 26, 2007, 04:18:10 PM
I think a gold jersey with fake eagle feathers running up and down the back would be super cool.

I'd buy two and mail one each to PRN and my good pal 4never.   :D
Title: Re: Jerseys??
Post by: PuertoRicanNightmare on September 26, 2007, 04:44:45 PM
You are so insensitive it's not even funny. Don't you realize that there are many Native Americans who consider eagle feathers to be sacred? You should be ashamed of yourself.
Title: I'll Be Checking My Mailbox...
Post by: 4everwarriors on September 26, 2007, 06:36:58 PM
for Ziggy's generous gift. New unis should make all of us nervous if TC, I mean GQ, alias Tommy Crean, had any input in the new look. 'Nough said!
Title: Re: Jerseys??
Post by: muwarrior87 on September 26, 2007, 08:28:40 PM
wow, i understand the native americans being sensitive from PRN but dang 4never...that's just harsh, we all know you dislike crean and his confidence/arrogance, however you may see it, but do you have to personally attack the man at every chance you get?!
Title: muwarrior87,...
Post by: 4everwarriors on September 26, 2007, 08:35:28 PM
between the haircut, faux tan, and OMG shades at Al's Run, can you honestly disagree?
Title: Re: muwarrior87,...
Post by: PuertoRicanNightmare on September 26, 2007, 08:46:47 PM
Quote from: 4everwarriors on September 26, 2007, 08:35:28 PM
between the haircut, faux tan, and OMG shades at Al's Run, can you honestly disagree?

Don't forget the Gold hummers (thankfully since replaced by less gaudy wheels).
Title: Re: Jerseys??
Post by: muwarrior87 on September 26, 2007, 09:07:21 PM
since the gold hummers...which are blue, not gold, were a donation from a board member (Bergstrom), can you say that's on Crean? And i'd say more that he needs a fashion designer than a check on his arrogance from the outfit he had at Al's run...and didn't he visit Shumpert at 12:01 that morning?? He may not have been thinking straight. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Title: Re: Jerseys??
Post by: Coach Norman Dale on September 26, 2007, 09:54:05 PM
QuoteOMG shades at Al's Run

I have watched 4ever criticize Crean at every turn, and found it sadly amusing.  I have learned from 4ever that Crean cannot coach, recruit, handle his players, get along with his assistant coaches, deal with the media, donate money . . . properly [per 4ever's exacting but unclear standards], but now I learn that Crean even *VOLUNTEERS* his time wrong?  Wow.  Next thing I am going to be told is that Crean does not lather, rinse and repeat when he washes his hair like the instructions on the bottle specifically tell him to do!   When will it end?  :o
Title: Re: Jerseys??
Post by: jmayer1 on September 26, 2007, 11:03:38 PM
Quote from: Coach Norman Dale on September 26, 2007, 09:54:05 PM
QuoteOMG shades at Al's Run

I have watched 4ever criticize Crean at every turn, and found it sadly amusing.  I have learned from 4ever that Crean cannot coach, recruit, handle his players, get along with his assistant coaches, deal with the media, donate money . . . properly [per 4ever's exacting but unclear standards], but now I learn that Crean even *VOLUNTEERS* his time wrong?  Wow.  Next thing I am going to be told is that Crean does not lather, rinse and repeat when he washes his hair like the instructions on the bottle specifically tell him to do!   When will it end?  :o

Exactly, some of the poster's hatred toward Crean is ridiculous.  I may not be the biggest Crean supporter ever but I do realize the categorical difference he has made at MU.  Maybe these posters would prefer to go back to where the Marquette basketball program was in the 80's and 90's, or maybe they just have a stick up their a@$.
Title: Re: I'll Be Checking My Mailbox...
Post by: Canned Goods n Ammo on September 27, 2007, 08:26:34 AM
Quote from: 4everwarriors on September 26, 2007, 06:36:58 PM
for Ziggy's generous gift. New unis should make all of us nervous if TC, I mean GQ, alias Tommy Crean, had any input in the new look. 'Nough said!

I know you are mostly teasing here... but I here is my issue:

Crean could've designed the current jerseys and current logo by himself (hypotheticallY), and you would never give him credit for it.

But, if the guy wears some weird sunglasses (yes, they were weird) or gets a bad haircut, you are all over him with some snide comment about his personal style.

Admittedly Crean is not Jesus, but he has done a tremendous amount good for MU basketball and MU overall.

Why make crappy comment about something as insignificant as his personal style?
Title: Re: I'll Be Checking My Mailbox...
Post by: The Lens on September 27, 2007, 08:39:35 AM
Quote from: 4everwarriors on September 26, 2007, 06:36:58 PM
for Ziggy's generous gift. New unis should make all of us nervous if TC, I mean GQ, alias Tommy Crean, had any input in the new look. 'Nough said!

Why? Are you worried they'd employ a severely mistied tie?
Title: Re: I'll Be Checking My Mailbox...
Post by: Canned Goods n Ammo on September 27, 2007, 08:49:39 AM
Quote from: DamonKeysContactLens on September 27, 2007, 08:39:35 AM
Quote from: 4everwarriors on September 26, 2007, 06:36:58 PM
for Ziggy's generous gift. New unis should make all of us nervous if TC, I mean GQ, alias Tommy Crean, had any input in the new look. 'Nough said!

Why? Are you worried they'd employ a severely mistied tie?

See, now that's actually pretty funny. Well done.



Also, I was just talking about this with a friend over the weekend... do you think it's possible that the "special Maui jerseys" will have a floral pattern or something Hawaii themed?

I know it would be kind of weird, but I also know that most of the coaches wear Hawaiian shirts and stuff... and if MU is having a special set of jerseys for this specific tourny... I can only imagine what they will be. Might be cool in the powder blue and gold.

Title: Re: Jerseys??
Post by: PuertoRicanNightmare on September 27, 2007, 09:09:41 AM
Quote from: muwarrior87 on September 26, 2007, 09:07:21 PM
since the gold hummers...which are blue, not gold, were a donation from a board member (Bergstrom), can you say that's on Crean? And i'd say more that he needs a fashion designer than a check on his arrogance from the outfit he had at Al's run...and didn't he visit Shumpert at 12:01 that morning?? He may not have been thinking straight. Correct me if I'm wrong.

They were gold until people began pointing out how ostentatious they looked. There's no way Bergstrom gave those things to the coaching staffs without checking on the color first. Somebody who requests a Gold Hummer is seeking attention. It's not the Hummers that people (not just me) objected to, it was the image the color gave off. Arrogance.
Title: Re: Jerseys??
Post by: Canned Goods n Ammo on September 27, 2007, 09:55:56 AM
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on September 27, 2007, 09:09:41 AM
Quote from: muwarrior87 on September 26, 2007, 09:07:21 PM
since the gold hummers...which are blue, not gold, were a donation from a board member (Bergstrom), can you say that's on Crean? And i'd say more that he needs a fashion designer than a check on his arrogance from the outfit he had at Al's run...and didn't he visit Shumpert at 12:01 that morning?? He may not have been thinking straight. Correct me if I'm wrong.

They were gold until people began pointing out how ostentatious they looked. There's no way Bergstrom gave those things to the coaching staffs without checking on the color first. Somebody who requests a Gold Hummer is seeking attention. It's not the Hummers that people (not just me) objected to, it was the image the color gave off. Arrogance.

YOU CAN'T BE SERIOUS.

Now you are critical of the coaching staff's choice in (donated) automobile?

AND, you can tell something about their personality from the color of their (donated) car?

C'mon dude. Your dislike of Crean is really making you look silly at this point.

I know you are a long-time fan and supporter of MU. Don't let your dislike for a certain member of the staff make you blind to all of the good things that are happening at MU.
Title: Re: Jerseys??
Post by: Coobeys Oil Depot on September 27, 2007, 11:57:20 AM
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on September 27, 2007, 09:09:41 AM
Quote from: muwarrior87 on September 26, 2007, 09:07:21 PM
since the gold hummers...which are blue, not gold, were a donation from a board member (Bergstrom), can you say that's on Crean? And i'd say more that he needs a fashion designer than a check on his arrogance from the outfit he had at Al's run...and didn't he visit Shumpert at 12:01 that morning?? He may not have been thinking straight. Correct me if I'm wrong.

They were gold until people began pointing out how ostentatious they looked. There's no way Bergstrom gave those things to the coaching staffs without checking on the color first. Somebody who requests a Gold Hummer is seeking attention. It's not the Hummers that people (not just me) objected to, it was the image the color gave off. Arrogance.

Creanis envy.
Title: Re: Jerseys??
Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on September 27, 2007, 12:02:54 PM
Quote from: Coobeys Oil Depot on September 27, 2007, 11:57:20 AM
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on September 27, 2007, 09:09:41 AM
Quote from: muwarrior87 on September 26, 2007, 09:07:21 PM
since the gold hummers...which are blue, not gold, were a donation from a board member (Bergstrom), can you say that's on Crean? And i'd say more that he needs a fashion designer than a check on his arrogance from the outfit he had at Al's run...and didn't he visit Shumpert at 12:01 that morning?? He may not have been thinking straight. Correct me if I'm wrong.

They were gold until people began pointing out how ostentatious they looked. There's no way Bergstrom gave those things to the coaching staffs without checking on the color first. Somebody who requests a Gold Hummer is seeking attention. It's not the Hummers that people (not just me) objected to, it was the image the color gave off. Arrogance.

Creanis envy.

were the aforementioned Hummers gold as in gold metallic paint or gold as in yellow?  Cuz yellow is one of the more frequently seen colors on Hummers.  I think there are 2 in my neighborhood alone.  (No, I don't live near 4never in the Quon). 
Title: Re: Jerseys??
Post by: MUEng92 on September 27, 2007, 12:09:23 PM
Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on September 27, 2007, 12:02:54 PM
Quote from: Coobeys Oil Depot on September 27, 2007, 11:57:20 AM
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on September 27, 2007, 09:09:41 AM
Quote from: muwarrior87 on September 26, 2007, 09:07:21 PM
since the gold hummers...which are blue, not gold, were a donation from a board member (Bergstrom), can you say that's on Crean? And i'd say more that he needs a fashion designer than a check on his arrogance from the outfit he had at Al's run...and didn't he visit Shumpert at 12:01 that morning?? He may not have been thinking straight. Correct me if I'm wrong.

They were gold until people began pointing out how ostentatious they looked. There's no way Bergstrom gave those things to the coaching staffs without checking on the color first. Somebody who requests a Gold Hummer is seeking attention. It's not the Hummers that people (not just me) objected to, it was the image the color gave off. Arrogance.

Creanis envy.

were the aforementioned Hummers gold as in gold metallic paint or gold as in yellow?  Cuz yellow is one of the more frequently seen colors on Hummers.  I think there are 2 in my neighborhood alone.  (No, I don't live near 4never in the Quon). 

I was just thinking the same thing.  After black, I think the bright yellow Hummers are the color I see the most around town.  Of course, you can't possibly miss them.
Title: Re: Jerseys??
Post by: muwarrior87 on September 27, 2007, 12:17:30 PM
I have lived in Carpenter Tower as a resident and RA the past 3 years...I have to walk past the Al every day to get to class since I'm an engineer. I have looked in that parking lot for Hummers of all colors and have seen 2 yellow (not metallic) colored ones at most! Other than that, they have been more of a navy and lighter blue. Nothing that is overly audacious or arrogant in color.
Title: Re: Jerseys??
Post by: tower912 on September 27, 2007, 12:42:25 PM
"Creanis envy".   Copyright that one or I may steal it to use elsewhere.   Perfect.   
Title: Re: Jerseys??
Post by: 🏀 on September 27, 2007, 02:11:33 PM
Athletics has the crappy Hummer colors, green, blue, red, and some others.

Black and yellow being the most popular, why would Bergstorm donate hot stock when he could donate the colors he has trouble moving?
Title: Re: Jerseys??
Post by: mu_hilltopper on September 27, 2007, 03:26:19 PM
Hmm.  I think this needs to be updated.

http://wiki.muscoop.com/doku.php/men_s_basketball/Creanis%20Envy

I assume one of you is up to that challenge?
Title: Re: Jerseys??
Post by: HarveysWallbangers on September 27, 2007, 03:34:20 PM
That's great...create a term that equates the name of MU's coach with male genitalia.

Perfect!
Title: Re: Jerseys??
Post by: mu_hilltopper on September 27, 2007, 03:38:23 PM
Yes, yes, but in a way that belittles the people who publicly renounce him, but secretly love him. :-*
Title: Re: Jerseys??
Post by: Ready2Fly on September 27, 2007, 03:40:23 PM
Who really cares what color Hummer someone drives or how the donor came up with his/her decision on what color to donate?

All I care about from the coach is W's.  We finish 12-6 or better in conference and make it to the second weekend in the tourney, and I wouldn't care if Crean and the rest of the staff drove replica NASCAR cars.  Well, I probably would, since NASCAR sucks, but I would care a lot less.

Landing Shumpert and Ben-Eze on top of that gives him a free pass to drive the Batmobile to the AL every day.  In fact, if we go 12-6 or better in conference, Win a few tournament games, land Shumpert and Ben-Eze, and the big donors DON'T pony up for a Batmobile, I'm gonna be pretty pissed.

Creanis envy is the funniest thing I've ever seen on here.
Title: Norm, Please Don't Exaggerate
Post by: 4everwarriors on September 27, 2007, 09:03:46 PM
I don't remember saying Crean didn't know how to "deal with the media." However, now that you mention it, he's no Al McGuire when it comes to handling the press. But, then again, who is? As far as his shampoo habits are concerned, you're on your own with that one. I only cut his lawn, I don't clean bathrooms.

My buddy, Ziggy, must live in the high rent district if hummers are all around. Bet the cars in the neighborhood are nice too. ;D

For those with Creanis Envy, my advice is to take large quantities of penicillin. It should cure you of the disease. If not, wax that sucker and start over.



Title: Re: Jerseys??
Post by: WarriorTurnedGoldenEagle on September 28, 2007, 03:11:37 AM
Crean has driven a white Escalade for the last several years.  He has never driven one of the Hummer H3s that are leased to MU from Bergstrom.  BB assistant coaches and head coaches from other sports drive the H3s.
Title: Re: Jerseys??
Post by: muwarrior87 on September 29, 2007, 12:08:20 AM
I like how this thread was started about the jerseys and how many there will be and if there will be special jerseys for Maui and because a few people have such a beef w/ TC they have to bring up something at every possible occasion, it turns into how our athletics head/assistant coaches can have the audacity to drive H3's leased to the university. quite a bit off topic, gotta love the message boards
Title: Re: Jerseys??
Post by: PuertoRicanNightmare on September 29, 2007, 06:57:05 AM
Quote from: muwarrior87 on September 29, 2007, 12:08:20 AM
I like how this thread was started about the jerseys and how many there will be and if there will be special jerseys for Maui and because a few people have such a beef w/ TC they have to bring up something at every possible occasion, it turns into how our athletics head/assistant coaches can have the audacity to drive H3's leased to the university. quite a bit off topic, gotta love the message boards

You miss the point entirely.
Title: Re: Jerseys??
Post by: jmayer1 on September 29, 2007, 02:48:56 PM
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on September 29, 2007, 06:57:05 AM
Quote from: muwarrior87 on September 29, 2007, 12:08:20 AM
I like how this thread was started about the jerseys and how many there will be and if there will be special jerseys for Maui and because a few people have such a beef w/ TC they have to bring up something at every possible occasion, it turns into how our athletics head/assistant coaches can have the audacity to drive H3's leased to the university. quite a bit off topic, gotta love the message boards

You miss the point entirely.

Actually, I think you are the one missing the point.  I know you are a huge MU fan, but your tendancy to turn every post into a sarcastic comment about Marquette sickens me; to be be honest with you.
Title: Re: Jerseys??
Post by: Coobeys Oil Depot on September 29, 2007, 06:36:07 PM
Quote from: jmayer1 on September 29, 2007, 02:48:56 PM
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on September 29, 2007, 06:57:05 AM
Quote from: muwarrior87 on September 29, 2007, 12:08:20 AM
I like how this thread was started about the jerseys and how many there will be and if there will be special jerseys for Maui and because a few people have such a beef w/ TC they have to bring up something at every possible occasion, it turns into how our athletics head/assistant coaches can have the audacity to drive H3's leased to the university. quite a bit off topic, gotta love the message boards

You miss the point entirely.

Actually, I think you are the one missing the point.  I know you are a huge MU fan, but your tendancy to turn every post into a sarcastic comment about Marquette sickens me; to be be honest with you.

And, really, it's a detriment to himself when he does because now he's a three-trick pony. I'm not sure about anyone else but when I see he's posted in a thread I already feel it deals with 1) the nickname, 2) his season tickets, or 3) an insult on Tom Crean.
Title: Re: Jerseys??
Post by: MUCam on September 29, 2007, 07:01:14 PM
I personally enjoy the comments that involve blaming the nickname fiasco on Tom Crean, which some how has affected season ticket prices (for the weak schedule).

*For the record, I do think Crean may have secretly been behind the "Gold" idea. Some say its arrogance. I say, you have to give him credit for trying, even if he did fall flat on his face (assuming, of course, he was involved in that decision).
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