http://marquettetribune.org/2013/04/16/news/victors-105-mu-students-busted-in-mpd-raid/
The Milwaukee Police Department caught 105 underage Marquette students at a local nightclub in a raid Thursday night.
The raid on Victor's, a bar located roughly a mile from campus, occurred at 11:19 p.m. and ended with all but two students cooperating with the officers. One of the students attempted to run through the officers but was stopped and had her information taken. The other student attempted to get through with false identification and was uncooperative with officers when they did not let him. The police also took his information.
MPD called in Marquette's Department of Public Safety to assist in obtaining information from the students.
"When they ask for our assistance, we will provide it to them," DPS Captain Russell Shaw said. "There have been some raids, but this is by far the largest involving Marquette students."
Most of the students were asked to turn over their false forms of identification and provide their Marquette identification numbers. Shaw said it would be up to MPD as to whether the 105 students would be sent citations.
Shaw said some businesses drive buses to Marquette in order to bring students to their establishments and that both DPS and MPD are aware of the practice.
According to DPS's 2012 Annual Security and Fire Safety Report, students caught with a false form of identification can face up to a $500 fine, required participation in a supervised work program or the suspension of their driver's license. Shaw said students should be cognizant of the repercussions linked to having a fake ID.
"Bottom line is that it is illegal," Shaw said. "MPD is cracking down on this, and there are many reasons they are doing it. If you have a fake ID, you are probably going to get caught."
An anonymous freshman in the College of Communication said underage drinking is not something to worry about in comparison to the level of crime already present in Marquette's neighborhood.
"I do not really understand why this is a priority," she said. "For example, we got a notification the next night saying there were shots fired right by campus. Clearly there are more important things than college kids drinking."
Another anonymous freshman in the College of Communication said underage drinking is going to happen no matter the location and that she thought buying alcohol is not the reason students go to bars.
"Underage college kids are going to drink," she said. "It really does not matter where. If it is not at a bar, it is going to be somewhere else on campus. This is not going to single-handedly stop underage drinking."
Underage Marquette students go to bars? That's unheard of.
How did they manage to catch 105?
Mark Belling was unavailable for comment
Will this result in big changes? Will Scott Pilarz institute structural changes to ensure nothing like this happens again? The value of a Marquette degree has taken a major hit. How were hooligans like this enrolled at MU? Heads in Admissions must roll!
Quote from: reinko on April 18, 2013, 12:20:41 PM
They closed the door?
Bars were raided fairly regularly when I attended (as I'm sure they are now) and it was usually a stampede out of whatever establishment we were at. Never heard of over 100 getting caught.
QuoteShaw said some businesses drive buses to Marquette in order to bring students to their establishments and that both DPS and MPD are aware of the practice.
I hope they didn't just recently catch onto the practice of cabs / shuttles lining up outside McCormick to take freshmen to the bars.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on April 18, 2013, 12:54:34 PM
Will this result in big changes? Will Scott Pilarz institute structural changes to ensure nothing like this happens again? The value of a Marquette degree has taken a major hit. How were hooligans like this enrolled at MU? Heads in Admissions must roll!
That was good, even without the teal it came through loud and clear.
Of course, my guess is the Father Pilarz thought the accusations of rape \ Sexual assault was of a slightly greater magnitude and heads did have to roll.
Didn't know the basketball team had that many players.
Quote from: Jay Bee on April 18, 2013, 01:33:32 PM
Didn't know the basketball team had that many players.
Neither does Bill Michaels, but I'm sure he won't let facts get in the way of a good story, either.
I heard DJO hit someone with a beer bottle, wait, wot? nevermind....
Were the students cited for being at Victim's or for underaged drinking? One is worse than the other...
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on April 18, 2013, 02:55:52 PM
Were the students cited for being at Victim's or for underaged drinking? One is worse than the other...
Underage drinking at Marquette? This would never have happened under Fr Wild's watch.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on April 18, 2013, 03:03:47 PM
Underage drinking at Marquette? This would never have happened under Fr Wild's watch.
Lenny, was questioning the taste of the Gen Z'ers...
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Has Larry blamed Buzz yet?
Big fine coming.
city must be running out of welfare money.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on April 18, 2013, 01:31:16 PM
That was good, even without the teal it came through loud and clear.
Of course, my guess is the Father Pilarz thought the accusations of rape \ Sexual assault was of a slightly greater magnitude and heads did have to roll.
Of course you did.
105 45 year old broads breaking out the butterfly.
Pretty lame to be honest. Milwaukee is for underage drinking - best part of the city and a big reason why Marquette was a great school to go to. Bigger fish to fry, MPD.
Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on April 18, 2013, 10:20:48 PM
Pretty lame to be honest. Milwaukee is for underage drinking - best part of the city and a big reason why Marquette was a great school to go to. Bigger fish to fry, MPD.
No kidding. All this has caused is people to avoid Victor's in favor of other places.
#1 MPD needs to worry about keeping people/kids safe... not writing tickets.
#2 In MPD's defense, they can only look the other way for so long. 105 underage kids is a TON at one bar. My guess is that Victors was probably warned at some point... they didn't heed that warning... and they are paying for it.
I am outraged -- OUTRAGED, I tell you! -- that a young citizen would attmept to break the law in this way.
Back in my day, Marquette students spent their evenings at the library studying to better themselves and society.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on April 19, 2013, 11:33:06 AM
Of course I did, what?
You did what you usually do. You brought up something that was totally unrelated to the current situation. What do the rape allegations have ANYTHING to do with 105 MU kids with fake ID's at Victors?
Its you stirring the pot, either on purpose, or you're just completely oblivious. I'm not sure which is worse.
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on April 19, 2013, 12:11:25 PM
You did what you usually do. You brought up something that was totally unrelated to the current situation. What do the rape allegations have ANYTHING to do with 105 MU kids with fake ID's at Victors?
Its you stirring the pot, either on purpose, or you're just completely oblivious. I'm not sure which is worse.
Lenny went there with Father Pilarz. As usual, you seem to always not connect the dots....my post was response to Lenny's and how Scott Pilarz would handle it (sarcasm and all). I don't know what that is difficult for you, but it has been for years.
I've been at Mo's and Kiko's when they were raided a few years back before I was of age it seems like the big difference with Victors is students had nowhere to run or hide so they all got caught.
Quote from: 4th and State on April 18, 2013, 01:19:33 PM
Bars were raided fairly regularly when I attended (as I'm sure they are now) and it was usually a stampede out of whatever establishment we were at. Never heard of over 100 getting caught.
1. Victors is hard to get out of if the side and front aren't guarded by police.
2. I bet the students who got the ticket are glad they just are the girl who tried busting through some cops or showing a fake.
Does Milwaukee PD still stalk jaywalkers and potential jaywalkers like they did back in the 80's?
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on April 19, 2013, 02:32:08 PM
Lenny went there with Father Pilarz. As usual, you seem to always not connect the dots....my post was response to Lenny's and how Scott Pilarz would handle it (sarcasm and all). I don't know what that is difficult for you, but it has been for years.
Lenny was obviously joking. He was channeling his inner CBB. Your post was you making a joke? Remind me not to buy tickets to your comedy show anytime soon.
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on April 19, 2013, 10:34:27 PM
Lenny was obviously joking. He was channeling his inner CBB. Your post was you making a joke? Remind me not to buy tickets to your comedy show anytime soon.
I acknowledged he was making a joke...I guess you couldn't connect the dots again.
Look, I realize the end of this week was a tough one for you and you didn't get what you wanted and hoped for, but try to keep your chin up.
Quote from: tower912 on April 19, 2013, 07:56:40 PM
Does Milwaukee PD still stalk jaywalkers and potential jaywalkers like they did back in the 80's?
No, they've cooled on that.
Quote from: tower912 on April 19, 2013, 07:56:40 PM
Does Milwaukee PD still stalk jaywalkers and potential jaywalkers like they did back in the 80's?
Maybe if they still did once in awhile, it might have prevented the girl who crossed the street in front of Caffrey's from getting hit by a car last Thursday night.
Quote from: warriorchick on April 22, 2013, 11:57:11 AM
Maybe if they still did once in awhile, it might have prevented the girl who crossed the street in front of Caffrey's from getting hit by a car last Thursday night.
Honestly, I truly hope this girl is OK but...
You think it's the police's fault that a girl wasn't paying attention and got hit by a car?
Quote from: MerrittsMustache on April 22, 2013, 12:00:31 PM
Honestly, I truly hope this girl is OK but...
You think it's the police's fault that a girl wasn't paying attention and got hit by a car?
Absolutely not. My point was if word got around that people were getting tickets for jaywalking, maybe they wouldn't do it as much.
Quote from: warriorchick on April 22, 2013, 01:22:15 PM
Absolutely not. My point was if word got around that people were getting tickets for jaywalking, maybe they wouldn't do it as much.
Same reason they randomly popped into Victor's.
Quote from: warriorchick on April 22, 2013, 11:57:11 AM
Maybe if they still did once in awhile, it might have prevented the girl who crossed the street in front of Caffrey's from getting hit by a car last Thursday night.
25 or 30 years ago I was in Caracas, Venezuela. Our guide was especially proud to show us their subway system where there was no graffiti. Of course, everywhere you looked there were gendarmes armed with automatic weapons....
Quote from: warriorchick on April 22, 2013, 01:22:15 PM
Absolutely not. My point was if word got around that people were getting tickets for jaywalking, maybe they wouldn't do it as much.
Quote from: Brewtown Andy on April 22, 2013, 01:45:37 PM
Same reason they randomly popped into Victor's.
The fallacy in the logic of those who make the "don't the police have anything better to do" argument is that people fail to realize that there are unintentional, unknown, and unquantifiable consequences of police action (or inaction) that go far beyond what you see (or don't see) in the blotter, or for that matter, the difference between the perceived societal importance of enforcing the "stupid" law as opposed to the more "critical" law.
Let's put it this way... if the police
never patrolled for underage drinking, and one of those underage students at Victor's drove drunk & got into a fatal accident, do you think everyone would just simply dismiss the facts that underage drinking laws a) weren't being enforced, and b) that, if enforced, may have prevented a death?