Per Wisconsin Basketball Yearbook
Cant hurt. Lot of Marquette university trained teachers in that building, compared to going to Germantown where most teachers go to UW-Fill in the Blank.
Quote from: KenoshaWarrior on April 13, 2013, 03:11:39 PM
Per Wisconsin Basketball Yearbook
Cant hurt. Lot of Marquette university trained teachers in that building, compared to going to Germantown where most teachers go to UW-Fill in the Blank.
What does that have to do with anything?
Good for him. It's a good place for getting a good education so to take no chances with that NCAA clearinghouse too
Quote from: wadesworld on April 13, 2013, 03:14:30 PM
What does that have to do with anything?
Some people hate it when kids transfer.
Quote from: lawwarrior12 on April 13, 2013, 03:16:02 PM
Some people hate it when kids transfer.
Sorry, should've specified...What does where the teachers went have to do with Stone? I would hope Marquette University "trained" teachers would not push a 15 year old student of theirs to go to a certain college.
Quote from: wadesworld on April 13, 2013, 03:20:16 PM
Sorry, should've specified...What does where the teachers went have to do with Stone? I would hope Marquette University "trained" teachers would not push a 15 year old student of theirs to go to a certain college.
Happens all the time.
We have plenty of great students at Park Hs who should go to Marquette but they are always pushed to go to UW madison or UW-Fill in the blank.
Students who go to St. Catherines on the other hand where their is a lot of MU influence are pushed to go to other catholic schools.
Quote from: KenoshaWarrior on April 13, 2013, 04:10:06 PM
Happens all the time.
We have plenty of great students at Park Hs who should go to Marquette but they are always pushed to go to UW madison or UW-Fill in the blank.
Students who go to St. Catherines on the other hand where their is a lot of MU influence are pushed to go to other catholic schools.
Technically, we're talking about a violation of NCAA booster guidelines when this type of influence is used.
Quote from: wadesworld on April 13, 2013, 03:20:16 PM
Sorry, should've specified...What does where the teachers went have to do with Stone? I would hope Marquette University "trained" teachers would not push a 15 year old student of theirs to go to a certain college.
Germantown's coach Showalter played for Bo at Platteville.
But I am fairly certain that Stone's dad will be 1,000 times the influence that his coach will be.
Quote from: LittleMurs on April 13, 2013, 04:23:04 PM
Technically, we're talking about a violation of NCAA booster guidelines when this type of influence is used.
not true because you have a previous relationship with the student.
If a student is in my class and they just happen to be a prospect than me being the teacher does not make me a booster cause it is a previous relationship
Quote from: KenoshaWarrior on April 13, 2013, 04:10:06 PM
Happens all the time.
We have plenty of great students at Park Hs who should go to Marquette but they are always pushed to go to UW madison or UW-Fill in the blank.
Students who go to St. Catherines on the other hand where their is a lot of MU influence are pushed to go to other catholic schools.
yeah...ok...
I have inside information that there are a lot of Germantown high school teachers who went to Marquette (and even one who went to Creighton!). Although, it appears it no longer matters... if it ever did.
So he's NOT coming to MU??? WTF!
Biggest news is he is not moving out East to prep school. Good news for Buzz and MU.
Quote from: wadesworld on April 13, 2013, 03:14:30 PM
What does that have to do with anything?
He'll be staring at Marquette pennants in a lot of classrooms and teachers wearing a lot of blue and gold when possible. ;)
Quote from: KenoshaWarrior on April 13, 2013, 04:28:10 PM
not true because you have a previous relationship with the student.
If a student is in my class and they just happen to be a prospect than me being the teacher does not make me a booster cause it is a previous relationship
This isn't correct.
Under the NCAA rules, its almost impossible for an alum not to be considered a booster. And just because there is a pervious relationship doesn't mean the person can provide any encouragement on where to attend college.
"Boosters are not precluded from continuing established friendships with families who have prospective student-athletes.
However, boosters may not encourage a prospect's participation in university athletics or provide benefits to prospects that were not previously provided." (emphasis added)
http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/public/NCAA/Enforcement/Resources/Role+of+boosters+in+intercollegiate+athletics
In other words, the previous relationship rule would allow a teacher to continue to teach Stone math or social studies. The minute they encourage him to attend Marquette, they're committing a violation.
Quote from: The Equalizer on April 14, 2013, 07:51:50 AM
This isn't correct.
Under the NCAA rules, its almost impossible for an alum not to be considered a booster. And just because there is a pervious relationship doesn't mean the person can provide any encouragement on where to attend college.
so if my son has a scholarship offer i can't push him to marquette....
B.S.
Quote from: The Equalizer on April 14, 2013, 07:51:50 AM
"Boosters are not precluded from continuing established friendships with families who have prospective student-athletes. However, boosters may not encourage a prospect's participation in university athletics or provide benefits to prospects that were not previously provided." (emphasis added)
http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/public/NCAA/Enforcement/Resources/Role+of+boosters+in+intercollegiate+athletics
In other words, the previous relationship rule would allow a teacher to continue to teach Stone math or social studies. The minute they encourage him to attend Marquette, they're committing a violation.
So if I read that correctly, a teacher could still talk about the educational benefits and what a great experience they had at Marquette without mentioning athletics or the students participation in athletics and therefore it would not be a violation?
What if the kid's high school coach went to MU? That guy can only advise him to go to schools that are not Marquette? If that's true, that's a very silly rule.
Maybe that's why Doc didn't send his kid here. He couldn't because he's an alum with a previous relationship, which would have made him a booster, which would have caused sanctions, which would have tarnished Buzz and his legacy. All makes sense now. Thanks, Doc, and Coach K, for taking Austin off our hands.
Quote from: The Equalizer on April 14, 2013, 07:51:50 AM
This isn't correct.
Under the NCAA rules, its almost impossible for an alum not to be considered a booster. And just because there is a pervious relationship doesn't mean the person can provide any encouragement on where to attend college.
"Boosters are not precluded from continuing established friendships with families who have prospective student-athletes. However, boosters may not encourage a prospect's participation in university athletics or provide benefits to prospects that were not previously provided." (emphasis added)
http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/public/NCAA/Enforcement/Resources/Role+of+boosters+in+intercollegiate+athletics
In other words, the previous relationship rule would allow a teacher to continue to teach Stone math or social studies. The minute they encourage him to attend Marquette, they're committing a violation.
Mental masturbation.
Quote from: avid1010 on April 14, 2013, 07:57:00 AM
so if my son has a scholarship offer i can't push him to marquette....
Nope. If you even talk to your son it's a violation. Same goes for your wife because she's married to an alum.
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on April 13, 2013, 08:35:02 PM
Biggest news is he is not moving out East to prep school. Good news for Buzz and MU.
Word. New rule at all MU open gyms: Stone and Duane always play on the same team.
New NCAA rule test case: Does making an alley-oop pass to a prospect at an open gym "encourage a prospect's participation in university athletics or provide benefits to prospects that were not previously provided." MU will argue that since alley-oop passes were previously provided at Dominican HS, such passes should be classified as "previously provided."
Quote from: ElDonBDon on April 14, 2013, 09:24:34 AM
What if the kid's high school coach went to MU? That guy can only advise him to go to schools that are not Marquette? If that's true, that's a very silly rule.
Maybe that's why Doc didn't send his kid here. He couldn't because he's an alum with a previous relationship, which would have made him a booster, which would have caused sanctions, which would have tarnished Buzz and his legacy. All makes sense now. Thanks, Doc, and Coach K, for taking Austin off our hands.
Attempting to cover every possible situation leads to a very complicated rule book, see the Internal Revenue Code
and all its accompanying regulations. The rule isn't silly so much as it's unduly complicated. If the NCAA attempted to penalize a school because Glenn Rivers had input into his son's college choice,
that would be silly. And it would be a far cry from your geometry teacher suddenly saying; "You'd really fit well into Bo's rotation next year."