List here: http://nbadraft.net/2013-early-entry-list
List as of 4/21/13
Officially Announced they Will Enter
Alex Abrines 6-6 190 SG Spain 1993 [link] Late first to second round.
Steven Adams 7-0 250 C Pittsburgh Fr. [link] Late first to early second.
Giannis Adetokoubo 6-9 215 SF Greece 1994 [link] Lottery to early second.
Athanasios Adetokoubo 6-7 205 SG/SF Greece 1992 [link] Second round to undrafted.
CJ Aiken 6-9 192 SF/PF St. Joes Jr. [link] Likely undrafted.
Anthony Bennett 6-7 240 PF UNLV Fr. [link] Top 10 pick.
Vander Blue 6-3 180 SG Marquette Jr. [link] Mid second round to likely undrafted.
Lorenzo Brown 6-4 190 PG NC State Jr. [link] Late first to second round.
Reggie Bullock 6-5 180 SG North Carolina Jr. [link] Second round to undrafted.
Trey Burke 6-0 180 PG Michigan So. [link] Lottery to mid first.
Kentavious Caldwell Pope 6-5 205 SG Georgia So. [link] Mid to late first round pick.
Michael Carter Williams 6-6 190 PG Syracuse So. [link] Mid to late first round pick.
Adrien Coleman 6-5 190 SF Bethune Cookman Jr. Likely undrafted.
Allen Crabbe 6-6 190 SG California Jr. [link] Late first to early second.
Gorgui Dieng 6-10 245 PF/C Louisville Jr. [link] Late first to early second.
Laszlo Dobos 7-3 260 C Hungary 1993 Likely undrafted.
Jamaal Franklin 6-5 185 SG/SF San Diego St. Jr. [link] Late first to early second.
Rudy Gobert 7-1 230 C France 1992 [link] Late lotto to late first round pick.
Archie Goodwin 6-4 190 SG Kentucky Fr. [link] Late first to early second.
Tim Hardaway Jr 6-5 190 SG Michigan Jr. [link] Late first to early second.
Mouhammadou Jaiteh 6-11 249 C France 1994 Second round to undrafted.
Grant Jerrett 6-10 230 PF Arizona Fr. [link] Mid second round to likely undrafted.
Myck Kabongo 6-1 180 PG Texas So. [link] Late first to likely second round.
Sergey Karasev 6-8 190 SG/SF Russia 1993 [link] Late first to second round.
Ricardo Ledo 6-5 185 SG/SF Providence Fr. [link] Second round to undrafted.
Alex Len 7-1 240 C Maryland So. [link] Top 10 pick.
CJ Leslie 6-8 200 SF/PF NC State Jr. [link] Late first to second round.
Nurideen Lindsey 6-2 180 PG Rider So. [link] Likely undrafted.
Amath Mbaye 6-8 210 SF Oklahoma Jr. [link] Mid second round to undrafted.
Ben McLemore 6-5 201 SG Kansas Fr. [link] Top 3 pick.
Tony Mitchell 6-8 235 SF/PF North Texas So. [link] Late first to early second.
Shabazz Muhammad 6-6 225 SF UCLA Fr. [link] Lottery pick.
Nerlens Noel 6-11 208 PF Kentucky Fr. [link] Top 3 pick.
Lucas Nogueira 7-0 220 PF Brazil 1992 [link] Late first to early second.
Victor Oladipo 6-4 190 SG/SF Indiana Jr. [link] Top 10 pick.
Kelly Olynyk 7-0 240 C Gonzaga Jr. [link] Lottery to mid first.
Norvel Pelle 6-10 240 PF/C Iona Fr. [link] Likely undrafted.
Otto Porter 6-8 205 SF Georgetown So. [link] Top 10 pick.
Marshawn Powell 6-7 240 PF Arkansas Jr. [link] Likely undrafted.
Phil Pressey 5-11 180 PG Missouri Jr. [link] Likely undrafted.
Dario Saric 6-10 230 PF Split Croatia 1994 [link] Mid to late first round pick.
Dennis Schroeder 6-2 168 PG Germany 1993 [link] Late first to early second.
Tony Snell 6-7 195 SF New Mexico Jr. [link] Second round to undrafted.
Tahj Tate 6-4 190 SG Delaware State So. Likely undrafted.
Adonis Thomas 6-6 235 SF Memphis So. [link] Second round to undrafted.
DeShaun Thomas 6-7 221 SF/PF Ohio State Jr. [link] Late first to early second.
BJ Young 6-3 175 SG Arkansas So. [link] Second round to undrafted.
Cody Zeller 6-11 240 PF/C Indiana So. [link] Top 10 pick.
Other notable players considering NBA/haven't yet stated they're staying at their school:
Isaiah Austin 7-0 205 PF/C Baylor Fr. Late first to early second.
Ray McCallum 6-1 190 PG Detroit Jr. Mid second round to undrafted.
Doug McDermott 6-7 225 SF Creighton Jr. Mid to late first round pick.
Adreian Payne 6-9 230 PF Michigan St. Jr. Late first to early second.
Chane Behanan 6-7 240 PF Louisville So. Mid second round to likely undrafted.
Clint Capela 6-9 230 PF Switzerland 1994 Mid second round to likely undrafted.
DeWayne Dedmon 7-0 250 C USC Jr. Mid second round to likely undrafted.
Eric Ferguson 6-8 204 SF/PF Georgia Southern Jr. Mid second round to likely undrafted.
Livio Jean Charles 6-9 210 SF France 1993 Second round to likely undrafted.
Cory Jefferson 6-9 240 PF Baylor Jr. Second round to undrafted.
Maximilian Kleber 6-10 210 SF Germany 1992 Second round to undrafted.
Shane Larkin 5-11 186 PG Miami So. Late first to early second.
Shabazz Napier 6-1 181 PG UConn Jr. Mid second round to likely undrafted.
Andre Roberson 6-7 210 SF/PF Colorado Jr. Mid second round to undrafted.
Russ Smith 6-0 180 PG/SG Louisville Jr. [link] Mid second round to likely undrafted.
Jarnell Stokes 6-7 250 PF Tennessee So. Mid second round to undrafted.
A less than stellar group - but there will be many more to come including several lottery picks.
weak class, next year will be unreal with the harrison PG, wiggens, parker, and randal
Seth Greenberg tweet: As I evaluate this years draft I don't see that many players that have games that translate to the next level.
Outside of his height and mustache, Steven Adams does not impress me in the least.
What is defined as a lottery pick these days?
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on April 10, 2013, 08:32:57 PM
What is defined as a lottery pick these days?
These days? Top 14.
So who is going in the first round? The picks have to be used on someone and if I'm Vander, I'm tempted...
Quote from: Lennys Tap on April 10, 2013, 09:49:29 PM
These days? Top 14.
I ask because in the list to start this post some are listed as "lottery" while others are listed as "top 10"....wouldn't they both be lottery?
Pitino came out and said Dieng is gone. Noel is gone. Dougie Fresh from CU is likely gone. Burke, Hardaway Jr., Robinson III all likely gone. McGary maybe gone. All would be taken in front of Vander IMHO.
Quote from: Wade for President on April 10, 2013, 08:32:39 PM
Outside of his height and mustache, Steven Adams does not impress me in the least.
idk, Adams has a bit of a Myers Leonard thing going on. played for a decent team, good size but the toughness comes and goes, he's coming on late. Big white stiffs with potential will always find a home in the first round.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on April 10, 2013, 10:12:07 PM
I ask because in the list to start this post some are listed as "lottery" while others are listed as "top 10"....wouldn't they both be lottery?
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If the lottery includes picks 1-14, which of the following is true?
A)All top 10 picks are lottery picks.
B)Some lottery picks are top 10 picks.
C)All lottery picks are top 5 picks
D)Cody Zeller is soft.
Correct answer: A,B, and D.
Like an easy SAT question.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on April 10, 2013, 11:57:18 PM
If the lottery includes picks 1-14, which of the following is true?
A)All top 10 picks are lottery picks.
B)Some lottery picks are top 10 picks.
C)All lottery picks are top 5 picks
D)Cody Zeller is soft.
Correct answer: A,B, and D.
Like an easy SAT question.
Maybe that can be part of the wonderlic test. Part 2 could be how lottery pick Mitch McGary scored only 2 points against soft Zeller, at home.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on April 11, 2013, 12:01:33 AM
Maybe that can be part of the wonderlic test. Part 2 could be how lottery pick Mitch McGary scored only 2 points against soft Zeller, at home.
A: Because he was in foul trouble and only played 8 minutes.
Quote from: 77ncaachamps on April 10, 2013, 07:45:36 PM
List here: http://nbadraft.net/2013-early-entry-list
List as of 4/10/13
Steven Adams 7-0 250 C Pittsburgh Fr. [link] Late first to early second.
CJ Aiken 6-9 192 SF/PF St. Joes Jr. [link] Likely undrafted.
Anthony Bennett 6-7 240 PF UNLV Fr. [link] Top 10 pick.
Lorenzo Brown 6-4 190 PG NC State Jr. [link] Late first to second round.
Michael Carter Williams 6-6 190 PG Syracuse So. [link] Mid to late first round pick.
Allen Crabbe 6-6 190 SG California Jr. [link] Late first to early second.
Rudy Gobert 7-1 230 C France 1992 [link] Late lotto to late first round pick.
Archie Goodwin 6-4 190 SG Kentucky Fr. [link] Late first to early second.
Sergey Karasev 6-8 190 SG/SF Russia 1993 [link] Second round to undrafted.
Ricardo Ledo 6-5 185 SG/SF Providence Fr. [link] Second round to undrafted.
CJ Leslie 6-8 200 SF/PF NC State Jr. [link] Late first to second round.
Amath Mbaye 6-8 210 SF Oklahoma Jr. [link] Mid second round to undrafted.
Ben McLemore 6-5 201 SG Kansas Fr. [link] Top 3 pick.
Tony Mitchell 6-8 235 SF/PF North Texas So. [link] Late first to early second.
Eric Moreland 6-10 215 PF Oregon St. So. [link] Mid second round to undrafted.
Shabazz Muhammad 6-6 225 SF UCLA Fr. [link] Lottery pick.
Victor Oladipo 6-4 190 SG/SF Indiana Jr. [link] Top 10 pick.
Norvel Pelle 6-10 240 PF/C Iona Fr. [link] Likely undrafted.
Marshawn Powell 6-7 240 PF Arkansas Jr. [link] Likely undrafted.
Phil Pressey 5-11 180 PG Missouri Jr. [link] Likely undrafted.
Russ Smith 6-0 180 PG/SG Louisville Jr. [link] Mid second round to likely undrafted.
Tony Snell 6-7 195 SF New Mexico Jr. [link] Second round to undrafted.
Isaiah Sykes 6-5 215 SG Central Florida Jr. [link] Likely undrafted.
Adonis Thomas 6-6 235 SF Memphis So. [link] Second round to undrafted.
DeShaun Thomas 6-7 221 SF/PF Ohio State Jr. [link] Late first to early second.
BJ Young 6-3 175 SG Arkansas So. [link] Second round to undrafted.
Cody Zeller 6-11 240 PF/C Indiana So. [link] Top 10 pick.
Where the hell is Vander! He suppose to be on this list. Didn't he curse out the coach or something? Damnit, duked again by a scooper that don't know balls!
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on April 11, 2013, 12:01:33 AM
Maybe that can be part of the wonderlic test. Part 2 could be how lottery pick Mitch McGary scored only 2 points against soft Zeller, at home.
Because no lottery pick ever played badly for a game in their college career?
Jamil is on same list as Vander...on the fence.
Quote from: Sunbelt15 on April 11, 2013, 10:42:55 AM
Where the hell is Vander! He suppose to be on this list. Didn't he curse out the coach or something? Damnit, duked again by a scooper that don't know balls!
Vander's latest tweet: I thought it and i achieved it...and i will never break a promise that i made to myself....
I have heard that both submitted a request report from the NBA's Undergraduate Advisory Committee Tuesday. Results should be back soon.
Quote from: jesmu84 on April 11, 2013, 11:10:58 AM
Because no lottery pick ever played badly for a game in their college career?
Yeah, the Big Handsome didn't exactly tear it up against Temple and Syracuse in the tournament that determines champions.
Pitino said today that Russ Smith is 50/50 going pro.
Quote from: Sunbelt15 on April 11, 2013, 10:42:55 AM
Where the hell is Vander! He suppose to be on this list. Didn't he curse out the coach or something? Damnit, duked again by a scooper that don't know balls!
A little early to gloat. Vander (and Jamil, for that matter) still have a couple weeks to declare.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on April 10, 2013, 11:57:18 PM
I ask because in the list to start this post some are listed as "lottery" while others are listed as "top 10"....wouldn't they both be lottery?
If the lottery includes picks 1-14, which of the following is true?
A)All top 10 picks are lottery picks.
B)Some lottery picks are top 10 picks.
C)All lottery picks are top 5 picks
D)Cody Zeller is soft.
Correct answer: A,B, and D.
Like an easy SAT question.
Tough SAT question. How do you quote another poster in your post without getting your post mixed in with the first poster's quote? ;)
Quote from: MU82 on April 11, 2013, 04:55:20 PM
A little early to gloat. Vander (and Jamil, for that matter) still have a couple weeks to declare.
Am I missing something? Can players no longer declare, go through some of the predraft process without hiring an agent, then go back to school?
Quote from: MUBurrow on April 11, 2013, 09:59:11 PM
Am I missing something? Can players no longer declare, go through some of the predraft process without hiring an agent, then go back to school?
Not really. In the past you could go through workouts and get some evaluation, but they changed that. Players declaring have until April 16th to remove their names, which doesn't give them any time for predraft workouts or to get much feedback from the league. Players may declare for the draft after April 16th, but may not remove their names from the pool if they do so after that date. April 28th is the cut-off to declare.
Add Myck Kabongo to the list
Quote from: brewcity77 on April 11, 2013, 10:32:02 PM
Not really. In the past you could go through workouts and get some evaluation, but they changed that. Players declaring have until April 16th to remove their names, which doesn't give them any time for predraft workouts or to get much feedback from the league. Players may declare for the draft after April 16th, but may not remove their names from the pool if they do so after that date. April 28th is the cut-off to declare.
Thanks for that. Kind of a bummer - I always thought that letting kids see where they stand a bit was one of the few things the college-to-NBA transition did well
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on April 11, 2013, 12:01:33 AM
Maybe that can be part of the wonderlic test. Part 2 could be how lottery pick Mitch McGary scored only 2 points against soft Zeller, at home.
B. Because Tom Crean is the best coach. Duh!
Anyone else surprised no Otto porter on this list yet? Hoping he and Doug come back; should help the league immensely
Per Goodman, Jamaal Franklin from SDSU. 6'5" SG
Quote from: LittleMurs on April 11, 2013, 05:05:28 PM
Tough SAT question. How do you quote another poster in your post without getting your post mixed in with the first poster's quote? ;)
good question
Quote from: CAGASS24 on April 12, 2013, 11:47:35 AM
Anyone else surprised no Otto porter on this list yet? Hoping he and Doug come back; should help the league immensely
While Porter would add to the status of the league, he needs to strike the iron while he is hot. Besides, we do not need him around next year to cause us problems. Same with McDermot at Creighton.
Quote from: willie warrior on April 12, 2013, 01:26:56 PM
While Porter would add to the status of the league, he needs to strike the iron while he is hot. Besides, we do not need him around next year to cause us problems. Same with McDermot at Creighton.
MU and the NBE would benefit greatly by having a strong Georgetown and Creighton to compete against and build the resume, win or lose. This first year of the NBE will get extra scrutiny as pundits, analysts, pollsters, and public make opinions. As meaningless as we think those opinions are, they do affect the committee's seeding and likely recruiting as well.
I'll use your logic here... would you prefer MU schedule a weak non-conf too? After all, quality non-conference games will cause MU more problems than cupcakes. By using your logic, we'd want to avoid that too, right?
#feedthetrollsFriday
Quote from: wardle2wade on April 12, 2013, 02:42:42 PM
MU and the NBE would benefit greatly by having a strong Georgetown and Creighton to compete against and build the resume, win or lose. This first year of the NBE will get extra scrutiny as pundits, analysts, pollsters, and public make opinions. As meaningless as we think those opinions are, they do affect the committee's seeding and likely recruiting as well.
I'll use your logic here... would you prefer MU schedule a weak non-conf too? After all, quality non-conference games will cause MU more problems than cupcakes. By using your logic, we'd want to avoid that too, right?
#feedthetrollsFriday
No, I would prefer MU having an awesome non-conference schedule to include: Louisville, ND, Whisky, Michigan State, Illinois and a day time carrier game against theOSU. Get rid of the Northeastern Southwestern Triangular U's.
Quote from: willie warrior on April 12, 2013, 03:40:46 PM
No, I would prefer MU having an awesome non-conference schedule to include: Louisville, ND, Whisky, Michigan State, Illinois and a day time carrier game against theOSU. Get rid of the Northeastern Southwestern Triangular U's.
That kind of sounds like you should just say you wish we were in the B1G
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/9163283/a-look-college-underclassmen-decided-undecided-nba-draft-college-basketball
No Marquette players on the list. McGary as a possible lottery pick.
Quote from: leever on April 12, 2013, 10:40:16 AM
B. Because Tom Crean is the best coach. Duh!
No no no.
The memo here is this.
When IU wins....cuz of players.
When IU players develop...cuz of themselves.
When IU loses...cuz of Crean
When IU players stagnate...cuz of Crean
Quote from: jesmu84 on April 13, 2013, 05:56:57 PM
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/9163283/a-look-college-underclassmen-decided-undecided-nba-draft-college-basketball
No Marquette players on the list. McGary as a possible lottery pick.
I found this today from Michigan Live to be where my head was at last week....excerpt below
There are obviously concerns with McGary, notably his low sample size of elite performances.
He was a reserve who struggled with consistency all season long before exploding in the NCAA tournament.
He averaged 14.3 points and 10.7 rebounds during Michigan's six-game NCAA tournament run. But averaged just 6.2 points and 5.5 rebounds in the team's previous 33 games.
Are six games enough for teams?
We'll see.
"That's a huge concern," said DraftExpress.com's Jonathan Givony, who has McGary at No. 17 on his big board. "There's so many examples of guys who have had a couple good games in March which was an outlier of anything they've shown previous to that. Then they get drafted 30 spots higher than they would have otherwise.
"And then they fall on their face. There's no question that's in the back of every NBA person's head right now."
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on April 13, 2013, 07:28:06 PM
No no no.
The memo here is this.
When IU wins....cuz of players.
When IU players develop...cuz of themselves.
When IU loses...cuz of Crean
When IU players stagnate...cuz of Crean
IU players develop? /halfteal
Quote from: Warriors10 on April 13, 2013, 10:42:25 PM
IU players develop? /halfteal
Yes, but despite of him...see that's how it works. 3 star Oladipo becomes a lottery pick despite him. 3 star Jordan Hulls...all Big Ten Honorable Mention despite him. 3 star Sheehey 6th man of year in Big Ten....despite him. Practice the mantra, it just flows. You'll get the hang of it. ;) / 5/8 teal
Updated P.V.E. (Post Vander Era)
FWIW, same site has 13lue going undrafted.
http://nbadraft.net/2013mock_draft
Quote from: 77ncaachamps on April 16, 2013, 02:31:49 PM
Updated P.V.E. (Post Vander Era)
FWIW, same site has 13lue going undrafted.
http://nbadraft.net/2013mock_draft
The same site had him entering the 2014 draft as most people did. He and Jamil Wilson are both listed as mid 2nd round there. Will be interesting to see if they move him in.
Quote from: 77ncaachamps on April 16, 2013, 02:31:49 PM
Updated P.V.E. (Post Vander Era)
FWIW, same site has 13lue going undrafted.
http://nbadraft.net/2013mock_draft
Yes. And it hasn't been updated in 6 days.
4/19 update
Updated mock draft (4/17): http://nbadraft.net/2013mock_draft
Not much of an update. Didn't McGary and GR III say they were coming back ?
Nvm. Thought your post said 4/19 update.
Quote from: willie warrior on April 12, 2013, 01:26:56 PM
While Porter would add to the status of the league, he needs to strike the iron while he is hot. Besides, we do not need him around next year to cause us problems. Same with McDermot at Creighton.
I bet that there is still time for Marquette to reject the Big East and switch to the Horizon League to avoid even more problems.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on April 13, 2013, 07:30:16 PM
I found this today from Michigan Live to be where my head was at last week....excerpt below
There are obviously concerns with McGary, notably his low sample size of elite performances.
He was a reserve who struggled with consistency all season long before exploding in the NCAA tournament.
He averaged 14.3 points and 10.7 rebounds during Michigan's six-game NCAA tournament run. But averaged just 6.2 points and 5.5 rebounds in the team's previous 33 games.
Are six games enough for teams?
We'll see.
"That's a huge concern," said DraftExpress.com's Jonathan Givony, who has McGary at No. 17 on his big board. "There's so many examples of guys who have had a couple good games in March which was an outlier of anything they've shown previous to that. Then they get drafted 30 spots higher than they would have otherwise.
"And then they fall on their face. There's no question that's in the back of every NBA person's head right now."
I know this was about McGary, but I was thinking of Vander the entire time that I read it. Vander had a better regular season, though.
Quote from: LittleMurs on April 19, 2013, 08:19:46 PM
I know this was about McGary, but I was thinking of Vander the entire time that I read it. Vander had a better regular season, though.
Isn't that a bit extreme? Vander was second team all Big East and the leading scorer on a team that shared the conference title. He was putting up numbers all year long.