Little birdie is telling me up to 5 players will transfer out of DePaul today. Could be 1 or 2 more as well.
you know the rest...
By "little birdie" do you mean this Scott Powers tweet?
https://twitter.com/ESPNChiPowers/status/321320921518465025
QuoteSounds like it could be a mass exodus at DePaul. I've heard up to 5 people transferring. Should have more info later today.
I didn't know Chris Broussard was a poster here
Not to name drop, but I went to school with Jim Doyle's kids, know the family quite well. There ya go, thanks for stopping by.
but this is really just getting sad. At what point are they a mid-major? Wouldn't be surprised if Billy Garrett Larkin-ed them this summer. I dont see why any good player would want to go there and playing at McCormick might not help either.
This news was posted on ESPN Chicago twitter feed at 12:57 p.m.
DePaul losing a bunch of stiffs for a new bunch that might actually be able to play. If Purnell keeps his job past next year I will be suprised. Ponsetto should go with him.
Quote from: MUDish on April 08, 2013, 01:12:36 PM
Not to name drop, but I went to school with Jim Doyle's kids, know the family quite well. There ya go, thanks for stopping by.
How's Diamond Jim these days, anyway?
Quote from: Fullodds on April 08, 2013, 01:17:04 PM
This news was posted on ESPN Chicago twitter feed at 12:57 p.m.
DePaul losing a bunch of stiffs for a new bunch that might actually be able to play. If Purnell keeps his job past next year I will be suprised. Ponsetto should go with him.
Last October, they extended Ponsetto through 2016. Why, I have no idea....
The only scholarship senior graduating was Clahar...and Oliver-Oh-Oliver had at least four coming in: Garrett, two JUCO bigs and an Oak Hill commit. Don't think this is a case of the rats jumping off a sinking ship, rather than a Pur(n)elling of the O deck, no?
The Bullseye guys tweeted out this two days ago, fwiw:
"Looks like there could be massive roster changes at DePaul w/ 3 players reportedly asking for their releases although nothing confirmed yet."
Only one of the players whose name has come up so far is what would be considered a key contributor.
They've been Olive Oiled. Just waitin' on the balsamic.
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on April 08, 2013, 01:24:35 PM
The only scholarship senior graduating was Clahar...and Oliver-Oh-Oliver had at least four coming in: Garrett, two JUCO bigs and an Oak Hill commit. Don't think this is a case of the rats jumping off a sinking ship, rather than a Pur(n)elling of the O deck, no?
Looks like Oliver is joining the big leagues.
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on April 08, 2013, 01:24:35 PM
The only scholarship senior graduating was Clahar...and Oliver-Oh-Oliver had at least four coming in: Garrett, two JUCO bigs and an Oak Hill commit. Don't think this is a case of the rats jumping off a sinking ship, rather than a Pur(n)elling of the O deck, no?
Makes sense...looks like they had 14 players who weren't seniors remaining and unless five were walk-ons they needed some departures to make room. Let's just hope the incoming class is an upgrade over the transfers, or we'll really have to try to sub them for Loyola, or maybe a girl's middle school team.
Man DePaul has the City of Chicago to build off of. How do you not sell that? By all measures they should be miles ahead of MU if you had 20 years of equal focus on BBall at each school.
It's a shame - wonder when they'll get their shlt together
DePaul is a joke. They were invited to the old Big East—and remain in the new Big East—for one reason: the city of Chicago.
If DePaul was located in Iowa, they would have vanished long ago.
Quote from: Groin_pull on April 08, 2013, 02:08:07 PM
DePaul is a joke. They were invited to the old Big East—and remain in the new Big East—for one reason: the city of Chicago.
If DePaul was located in Iowa, they would have vanished long ago.
DePaul is a sleeping giant.
Quote from: sixstrings03 on April 08, 2013, 01:36:54 PM
Man DePaul has the City of Chicago to build off of. How do you not sell that? By all measures they should be miles ahead of MU if you had 20 years of equal focus on BBall at each school.
It's a shame - wonder when they'll get their shlt together
You can say the same for St. John's. How do you not win when you have NYC and MSG as your conference home court?
At least St. John's seems to be trying to become relevant again. But never understood why a coach couldn't just walk in and say MSG and Big East and have his pick of the liter.
Or of the Imperial quart.
Quote from: MUMonster03 on April 08, 2013, 02:17:54 PM
You can say the same for St. John's. How do you not win when you have NYC and MSG as your conference home court?
At least St. John's seems to be trying to become relevant again. But never understood why a coach couldn't just walk in and say MSG and Big East and have his pick of the liter.
Because 16 and 17-year-old kids don't care about MSG or the Big East.
I like to refer to my alma mater as a rusted out, inoperable, up-on-the-blocks '68 Mustang GT. Deep down there is something desirable, but you shouldn't have a plumber try to restore a classic car (no disrespect to any plumbers out there).
So yes, none of the four or five potential "transfers" were a surprise to anyone that watched (or tried to watch without sticking needles in your eyes) the team this year. And its likely that one of the JUCO bigs that signed may not make it to campus for reasons unknown, but not cracking the starting lineup on a JUCO team doesn't necessarily portend to success even in a Big-East "lite" conference.
Hat tip to the "big boys" comment above. Probably 1 or 2 assistant coaches will leave to "look for other opportunities" and the vaunted press defense (or matador apprenticeship program) should be gone next year too.
In all, you may see DePaul look a lot like the Purnell teams that were in Dayton rather than the Clemson versions. At least perhaps for another 1.5 years until Jeannie is given another opportunity to underwhelm and overpay.
Perhaps then at least DePaul will suck closer to downtown in a new corporate designed arena no where near their campus. Of course I like the McPier location for selfish reasons, but me and the 138 other people that still care enough about the team to waste time on the intermet talking about the program can only ask for so much.
Quote from: LauxForThree on April 08, 2013, 02:43:24 PM
I like to refer to my alma mater as a rusted out, inoperable, up-on-the-blocks '68 Mustang GT. Deep down there is something desirable, but you shouldn't have a plumber try to restore a classic car (no disrespect to any plumbers out there).
So yes, none of the four or five potential "transfers" were a surprise to anyone that watched (or tried to watch without sticking needles in your eyes) the team this year. And its likely that one of the JUCO bigs that signed may not make it to campus for reasons unknown, but not cracking the starting lineup on a JUCO team doesn't necessarily portend to success even in a Big-East "lite" conference.
Hat tip to the "big boys" comment above. Probably 1 or 2 assistant coaches will leave to "look for other opportunities" and the vaunted press defense (or matador apprenticeship program) should be gone next year too.
In all, you may see DePaul look a lot like the Purnell teams that were in Dayton rather than the Clemson versions. At least perhaps for another 1.5 years until Jeannie is given another opportunity to underwhelm and overpay.
Perhaps then at least DePaul will suck closer to downtown in a new corporate designed arena no where near their campus. Of course I like the McPier location for selfish reasons, but me and the 138 other people that still care enough about the team to waste time on the intermet talking about the program can only ask for so much.
Referring to our conference as 'Big East Lite" won't get you much love around hear.
I find it humorous that people think DePaul is this storied program that only recently has been downtrodden. The only sustained success DePaul has ever really had was immediately after Al retired through the very early years of Joey Meyer. And even then they fell flat on their faces in the tournament nearly every year. In 42 years as coach, Ray Meyer won 20 or more games 11 times, 7 of them being after the 1976-77 season, and have had 21 seasons of 20+ wins in program history.
I don't expect them to challenge for the NBE title anytime soon.
Quote from: The Equalizer on April 08, 2013, 02:57:14 PM
Referring to our conference as 'Big East Lite" won't get you much love around hear.
Deal with it, the truth hurts. Believe me, I know.
I like the NBE, but it is the unleaded version of the old.
Quote from: LauxForThree on April 08, 2013, 03:12:42 PM
Deal with it, the truth hurts. Believe me, I know.
I like the NBE, but it is the unleaded version of the old.
Yeah absolutely true. I think the Big East will remain a very strong conference, and one of the best in college bball. But the Big East we are leaving behind was the best bball conference ever. Butler, Xavier and Creighton are solid adds. But they don't make up for losing games against Louisville, Syracuse, UConn. Those are teams that could challenge for a National Championship any season. We are also leaving behind really solid teams like Pitt, ND, and Cinci. Butler, X, and Creighton are great replacements for those three, but losing those top tier elite teams hurts.
Bubba over on the DePaul boards said that one is leaving on his own...the rest are being Purnelled.
Quote from: Skatastrophy on April 08, 2013, 02:14:33 PM
DePaul is a sleeping giant.
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Quote from: Heavy Gear on April 08, 2013, 02:58:18 PM
I find it humorous that people think DePaul is this storied program that only recently has been downtrodden. The only sustained success DePaul has ever really had was immediately after Al retired through the very early years of Joey Meyer. And even then they fell flat on their faces in the tournament every year. In 42 years as coach, Ray Meyer won 20 or more games 11 times, 7 of them being after the 1976-77 season, and have had 21 seasons of 20+ wins in program history.
I don't expect them to challenge for the NBE title anytime soon.
DePaul made the Sweet 16 in '76, the Elite 8 in '78, and the Final Four in '79. If that's considered falling flat on your face than Marquette hasn't had any tournament success since 1977.
DePaul also made the NCAA tournament 11 times between 1980-1992 (by comparison, we made it 3 times in that span).
DePaul has been bad for quite awhile now, and they won't contend for a Big East title anytime soon. But, I think we need to be careful using our recent success/DePaul's recent failures to measure that one program has always been bad while another has always been good.
Some times when i am feeling depressed about MU after a tough loss or a recruit we missed on I go over to the DU board just to remind myself how good we have it right now. I do have to say that Bubba on the DU board is an eternal optimist and a glutton for punishment.
Quote from: WI_inferiority_complexes on April 08, 2013, 05:00:16 PM
DePaul made the Sweet 16 in '76, the Elite 8 in '78, and the Final Four in '79. If that's considered falling flat on your face than Marquette hasn't had any tournament success since 1977.
DePaul also made the NCAA tournament 11 times between 1980-1992 (by comparison, we made it 3 times in that span).
DePaul has been bad for quite awhile now, and they won't contend for a Big East title anytime soon. But, I think we need to be careful using our recent success/DePaul's recent failures to measure that one program has always been bad while another has always been good.
That's what you got from all of that? I never said we've always been good, my point is that DePaul's success as a program has become over-inflated over the years.
Quote from: Heavy Gear on April 08, 2013, 06:16:18 PM
That's what you got from all of that? I never said we've always been good, my point is that DePaul's success as a program has become over-inflated over the years.
No, the part I focused on (and bolded in your original message) is when you said DePaul fell flat on their face in every tournament, ignoring their Sweet 16, Elite 8, and FF.
that is one delusional bunch, they keep talking about upgrading the talent for next year, not many 4 stars left who haven't singed whit someone else at this point so not sure where the talent influx is coming from at this point in time.
Quote from: sailwi on April 08, 2013, 09:30:57 PM
that is one delusional bunch, they keep talking about upgrading the talent for next year, not many 4 stars left who haven't singed whit someone else at this point so not sure where the talent influx is coming from at this point in time.
Give em a break. They're rooting for DePaul. Posting on message boards about it. Still. That is some dedication. Let them hope and dream. Who knows, it may happen.
Quote from: sailwi on April 08, 2013, 05:03:52 PM
Some times when i am feeling depressed about MU after a tough loss or a recruit we missed on I go over to the DU board just to remind myself how good we have it right now. I do have to say that Bubba on the DU board is an eternal optimist and a glutton for punishment.
Is he a Cub fan?
Transfers that they would pick up and have play immediately:
Josh Davis, 6-8, PF, Jr., Tulane
Lasan Kromah, 6-5, G, Sr., George Washington
David Pellom, 6-8, F, Sr., George Washington
Those are the only players near serviceable with that route. Josh Davis averaged 17 ppg at Tulane, so maybe they could pursue him and get an "upgrade".
Quote from: sailwi on April 08, 2013, 09:30:57 PM
that is one delusional bunch, they keep talking about upgrading the talent for next year, not many 4 stars left who haven't singed whit someone else at this point so not sure where the talent influx is coming from at this point in time.
You're saying it takes 4-star recruits to upgrade the talent on the end of DePaul's bench???
This is Purnell's last chance, but it's shaping up to be a good one.
"With a three-member recruiting class led by Morgan Park point guard Billy Garrett Jr., DePaul will have some things to sort out when it comes to their rotation in 2013-14.
Oliver Purnell's program will be without two players from this season however, as it was reported by WeAreDePaul.com on Sunday that junior forward Moses Morgan has decided to transfer. Morgan's decision comes on the heels of a report Thursday that freshman wing Jodan Price would leave the program...
DePaul signed two front court players in its 2013 class, 6-10 center Forrest Robinson from South Plains (Texas) JC and 6-9 forward Greg Sequele from Citrus (Calif.) JC (Garrett and Oak Hill Academy shooting guard R.J. Curington are the others).
However with Cleveland Melvin, Donnavan Kirk and DeJuan Marrero (missed all of 2012-13 with a torn ACL) all returning the Blue Demons will have depth inside."
Quote from: WI_inferiority_complexes on April 08, 2013, 07:05:10 PM
No, the part I focused on (and bolded in your original message) is when you said DePaul fell flat on their face in every tournament, ignoring their Sweet 16, Elite 8, and FF.
I amend my statement to read "And even then they fell flat on their faces in the tournament
nearly every year."
That being said, I hope we're not looking at our current success the same way 35 years from now.
Quote from: chapman on April 08, 2013, 01:34:15 PM
Makes sense...looks like they had 14 players who weren't seniors remaining and unless five were walk-ons they needed some departures to make room. Let's just hope the incoming class is an upgrade over the transfers, or we'll really have to try to sub them for Loyola, or maybe a girl's middle school team.
I could be wrong, but according to http://verbalcommits.com/schools/depaul, DePaul only had 9 scholarship players this year that were either freshmen or sophomores or juniors. Plus, they had 1 senior and 1 redshirt senior. So, that's 4 open spots, and verbalcommits is only showing 4 incoming players, Garrett, Curington, and the 2 jucos. So, it looks like DePaul is right at 13 scholarship players now.
I don't see why they need anybody to transfer out to make room for more players.
Quote from: 77ncaachamps on April 08, 2013, 11:19:10 PM
This is Purnell's last chance, but it's shaping up to be a good one.
"With a three-member recruiting class led by Morgan Park point guard Billy Garrett Jr., DePaul will have some things to sort out when it comes to their rotation in 2013-14.
Oliver Purnell's program will be without two players from this season however, as it was reported by WeAreDePaul.com on Sunday that junior forward Moses Morgan has decided to transfer. Morgan's decision comes on the heels of a report Thursday that freshman wing Jodan Price would leave the program...
DePaul signed two front court players in its 2013 class, 6-10 center Forrest Robinson from South Plains (Texas) JC and 6-9 forward Greg Sequele from Citrus (Calif.) JC (Garrett and Oak Hill Academy shooting guard R.J. Curington are the others).
However with Cleveland Melvin, Donnavan Kirk and DeJuan Marrero (missed all of 2012-13 with a torn ACL) all returning the Blue Demons will have depth inside."
Look at the number of JUCOs.
Quote from: Terror Skink on April 08, 2013, 01:24:21 PM
Last October, they extended Ponsetto through 2016. Why, I have no idea....
Based on the statement made by DePaul's president at the time, it was because
he has no idea. Administration love of Ponsetto says all that anyone needs to know about why DePaul has fallen as far as it has.
Quote from: ResidentBrown on April 08, 2013, 10:10:36 PM
Transfers that they would pick up and have play immediately:
Josh Davis, 6-8, PF, Jr., Tulane
Lasan Kromah, 6-5, G, Sr., George Washington
David Pellom, 6-8, F, Sr., George Washington
Those are the only players near serviceable with that route. Josh Davis averaged 17 ppg at Tulane, so maybe they could pursue him and get an "upgrade".
Tarik Black from Memphis reportedly has graduated early and will be ready to play immediately.
I'll eat my foot if Tarik Black goes to DePaul.
Quote from: dayton flyers on April 09, 2013, 09:53:46 AM
I could be wrong, but according to http://verbalcommits.com/schools/depaul, DePaul only had 9 scholarship players this year that were either freshmen or sophomores or juniors. Plus, they had 1 senior and 1 redshirt senior. So, that's 4 open spots, and verbalcommits is only showing 4 incoming players, Garrett, Curington, and the 2 jucos. So, it looks like DePaul is right at 13 scholarship players now.
I don't see why they need anybody to transfer out to make room for more players.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/breaking/chi-depaul-players-transfer-20130409,0,5412067.story?track=rss
Ok, this article clears things up for me. verbalcommits already had Moses and Price transferring out. Without those 2 transferring out, then DePaul would have had 16 players, 3 over the limit. With these 4 transfers now though, they are actually now at 12 scholarship players, 1 under the limit.
I miscounted before, they were at 14 before, not 13, and they are at 12 now, 1 under the limit.