Anyone see the Sunday letters in the sports section? They usually run letters that have at least four or five lines of copy.
Anyway today, they found just enough space to post a "letter" from some d bag that's said:
"So, Marquette spends $286,000 on every player? I can think of 286,000 better places to spend that money."
The reason this bugs me sooo much is because the sole, lone purpose of including that on Sunday is purely for shock value. By making the editorial decision to include that "letter" the Urinal Sentinel just shows it cares about being a troll for Bucky fans. I know u can't insert perspective or reasoning into someone's letter, but Jesus Christ.
Now common fans will read that and go, "what!!?? MU spends what!? I'm so outraged! How can they spend all that money, and for what?!
Bottom line I hate the Urinel.
I know this doesn't help Niv but I'll say it once again....
Living outside of Wisconsin as a Marquette fan is bliss. Take solace in these numbers: figure 75% of the state are Badgers fans. At five million people for the state, that is 3.75 million. That equals just over 1% of the country. That's their impact, one percent.
And the argument that Badger fans are in other states don't fly as other states don't fall for their bs.
The only reason I read or hear anything about the Journal Sentinel is because Mikehunt's column is posted on this board every so often. They just don't have enough money to pay for talented resources to generate good content.
I guess you can take solace in the fact that nobody else read that quote besides yourself.
I mean really, the only time I come across paper newspapers is at old age homes.
Let it go. How many actually read letters to the editor...?
Before Mike Hunt, didn't the JS have an intern who was a UWM graduate write about Marquette. So, why complain.
I saw that this morning and just shook my head. What surprised me was they just lined up anti-Marquette after anti-Marquette letter. I'm not sure if they're trying to make Becky fans feel better by having people tear down Marquette or troll for Marquette fan responses on their website. Just seemed like a lame attempt to get some reaction, just not sure which one they are angling for.
It is the same Urinal trash that has been carried on for decades. Good thing is, as noted, is that it does totally miss the mark outside of Wisc.
John Hancock? Don't you mean Herbie Hancock?
Quote from: Stretchdeltsig on April 07, 2013, 05:07:48 PM
Before Mike Hunt, didn't the JS have an intern who was a UWM graduate write about Marquette. So, why complain.
Because they downgraded from an intern to Mike Hunt?
Reading the editorial section in the Sunday Journal Sentinel is one of my great joys in life. Whoever chooses the letters that run each week is either a complete fool or one of the most brilliant comedic minds of our time. A good percentage of the letters are so absurd that I would assume they were satire, were it not frighteningly clear that their authors were completely serious. Just over a year and a half ago I read a letter which essentially argued that Rickie Weeks doesn't respect the game of baseball because he occasionally wears his hat backwards. I couldn't make things like that up if I tried.
If you're reading the Sunday sports editorials and getting upset about them, I would suggest that you're approaching it all wrong. Most reasonable savvy people can pick out the ridiculously dumb letters. In fact, there will probably be 2-3 rational letters next week pointing out the ridiculousness of today's arguments (as there typically are after a batch of overwhelmingly dumb letters going after one target). And that will disappoint me, because those reasonable comments will likely keep me from getting a chuckle from letters complaining about the fact that John Axford's excessive beard length is prompting him to give up home runs.
the urinal has never covered MU fairly. I recall in 1977 it was pretty late in the tournement before they got on the bandwagon. hell, this time we were in the sweet 16 and the baaaajrs (whom you may recall crapped the bed in their first game) were still getting equal coverage. two articles about their great incoming recruits and another about what they learned from their game in the ncaas. I am certain that the editorial board goes out of their way to select letters critical of MU, then includes one pro-MU to show their 'ever-handedness'.
Quote from: Niv Berkowitz on April 07, 2013, 03:14:05 PM
"So, Marquette spends $286,000 on every player? I can think of 286,000 better places to spend that money."
We all eagerly await the day the writer of this letter actually has $286,000 to spend.
Quote from: MarquetteDano on April 07, 2013, 03:30:08 PM
I know this doesn't help Niv but I'll say it once again....
Living outside of Wisconsin as a Marquette fan is bliss. Take solace in these numbers: figure 75% of the state are Badgers fans. At five million people for the state, that is 3.75 million. That equals just over 1% of the country. That's their impact, one percent.
And the argument that Badger fans are in other states don't fly as other states don't fall for their bs.
Wisconsin is irrelevant to me, but that is certainly a function of living outside of Wisconsin. I can't imagine having to read/listen to this crap on a daily basis.
Quote from: MarquetteDano on April 07, 2013, 03:30:08 PM
I know this doesn't help Niv but I'll say it once again....
Living outside of Wisconsin as a Marquette fan is bliss. Take solace in these numbers: figure 75% of the state are Badgers fans. At five million people for the state, that is 3.75 million. That equals just over 1% of the country. That's their impact, one percent.
And the argument that Badger fans are in other states don't fly as other states don't fall for their bs.
Couldn't agree more, it sure is nice to not hear a peep from Becky fans anymore. I personally go to every other source first before I go the the MJS for Warrior news/information.
It's pretty sad when the local community newspaper does not actively support the local albeit private school's sports teams, but actually goes out of its way to actively be hostile to the school by its decision to print 'letters to the editor' to further that agenda.
The out-of-towners are dismissing this, but this stuff matters a lot for MU because we need the casual local fans to fill the BC. We have a solid fan base that avereages about 15,000. But if we want to go above that and start filling the upper deck for more games we need the casual fans to show up. Those people are the ones that read this junk in the JS, and they're not going online to the message boards or blogs to get the real information. This will be even more important with the new conference, since we lose some big names in ND, Louisville, Syracuse, Pitt and UConn. Those are the names the casual fans recognize. Butler, Creighton and Xavier may have better teams some years, but they aren't as recognizable.
Based on our attendance over the past decade, our "installed fanbase" is probably maxed out around 15,000-16,000 per game, and we need the JS to reach out to the casual fans if we want to build beyond that.
Quote from: Litehouse on April 08, 2013, 08:54:23 AM
The out-of-towners are dismissing this, but this stuff matters a lot for MU because we need the casual local fans to fill the BC. We have a solid fan base that avereages about 15,000. But if we want to go above that and start filling the upper deck for more games we need the casual fans to show up. Those people are the ones that read this junk in the JS, and they're not going online to the message boards or blogs to get the real information. This will be even more important with the new conference, since we lose some big names in ND, Louisville, Syracuse, Pitt and UConn. Those are the names the casual fans recognize. Butler, Creighton and Xavier may have better teams some years, but they aren't as recognizable.
Based on our attendance over the past decade, our "installed fanbase" is probably maxed out around 15,000-16,000 per game, and we need the JS to reach out to the casual fans if we want to build beyond that.
I'm not going to argue with your point, but the JS doesn't care about growing MU's fanbase by a couple thousand people. They care about selling papers (and getting site hits). Therefore, they're going to pander to their largest market segment, which unfortunately means pandering to Wisconsin fans who hate the snooty private school.
Quote from: sarcastro on April 07, 2013, 11:10:34 PM
We all eagerly await the day the writer of this letter actually has $286,000 to spend.
Did the author list even one?
Quote from: MerrittsMustache on April 08, 2013, 09:12:43 AM
I'm not going to argue with your point, but the JS doesn't care about growing MU's fanbase by a couple thousand people. They care about selling papers (and getting site hits). Therefore, they're going to pander to their largest market segment, which unfortunately means pandering to Wisconsin fans who hate the snooty private school.
I know the JS doesn't care, but maybe this is an area where our athletic director could work on improving the relationship with the local media. Sell the fact that we have a sizable fanbase ourselves that buy papers and click on websites, and the JS could easily sell to both groups. The Wisconsin fans are going to be there anyway, so they're not gaining anything by trashing MU. But they are continuing to turn off MU fans.
Consider the source - remember that the writer of the letter to the editor is the kind of person who writes letters to the editor.
Quote from: Niv Berkowitz on April 07, 2013, 03:14:05 PM
"So, Marquette spends $286,000 on every player? I can think of 286,000 better places to spend that money."
What a dumb a*s!
Marquette's basketball is marketing. Pure and simple. By having a great basketball team, Marquette develops interest in the school and perhaps draws people to take a second look at the overall academic program. Basketball also links us alumni with the school and gives us another reason to be proud.
Oh, and by the way, Marquette makes money on basketball!
I've said this before. Most of the buildings built since 1970 on campus were built with McGuire Money -- or donation and contributions generated in part because of the visibility and success of Marquette's basketball program. Without it, Marquette would be Loyola without the cache.
By the way Becky Badger fans, if you want to play this game, how much does ole Beck spend per football player? And don't forget the capital costs of Camp Randall Stadium, training facilities for 80 players plus ridiculous recruiting costs?
I'm sure Louisville deals with the same sort of shennanigans as MU does with Kentucky Fans.
Quote from: Rockmic87 on April 08, 2013, 12:14:14 PM
I'm sure Louisville deals with the same sort of shennanigans as MU does with Kentucky Fans.
From everything I was hearing/reading/seeing last year when UK/UL met in the Final Four, the state is pretty evenly divided between the two schools and it's an extremely bitter rivalry.
Yeah, that's my take too! But that's also understandable.
In WI, UW-Mad is the only friggin D1 football school in the state, so, they get all of those football fans looking to cheer for someone "local". They then naturally pick-up on the rest of the teams. Mix in the media which will naturally cover the bigger school/program/system (UW-insert-name-here) and you see why we are where we are locally.
Not only do you have 40,000 Madison folks, you have all the other UW-jags that hang on.
And yes, to the earlier poster that questioned reading the paper...it's Sunday. It's tradition. I read the Sunday paper, especially the outdoors column which is pretty solid, I must say. It's kinda lame to poke fun at the letters due to the comedy most of them have, but there are a few that I scratch my head at. See example here.
Quote from: MarquetteDano on April 07, 2013, 03:30:08 PM
I know this doesn't help Niv but I'll say it once again....
Living outside of Wisconsin as a Marquette fan is bliss. Take solace in these numbers: figure 75% of the state are Badgers fans. At five million people for the state, that is 3.75 million. That equals just over 1% of the country. That's their impact, one percent.
And the argument that Badger fans are in other states don't fly as other states don't fall for their bs.
+1
As much as I enjoy Milwaukee, and Wisconsin, there is a big world out there outside of it.
And, this kind of thing goes on across the country too. The smaller, private, urban school gets far less favorable coverage and complains. It's not Marquette specific, nor Wisconsin specific, nor Journal-Sentinel specific. Fandom becomes much more enjoyable when these types of things don't bother you. If you focus on the team and partcularly the positives, much of the time, with a good balance, it's very enjoyable.
Quote from: klyrish on April 08, 2013, 12:27:39 PM
From everything I was hearing/reading/seeing last year when UK/UL met in the Final Four, the state is pretty evenly divided between the two schools and it's an extremely bitter rivalry.
No kidding. Here is a sign I saw in front of a UK Spiritwear shop about a block from the Rupp Arena :
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HAHAHA wow...that's fantastic.
Hopefully a Louisville area restaurant had this as a retort...
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