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Jake Thomas is transferring from Marquette. Schools that have inquired are UWM, UWGB, UIC, & South Alabama.

Best of luck to Jake!

So we're still oversigned by 1, correct?

Hope he finds a school that fits him, lands some playing time and does well

After he sits out a year due to transferring, will he even have any eligibility left?

yep.  changes nothing scholarship-wise  Assuming he graduates in may and can play immediately next year ala trent lockett.  good luck to him.  he's a better shooter than he showed...he'll do well at a lower level program where he'll have the leeway to shoot himself out of funks.

South Alabama?  Okay.  Yeah, guessing he's graduating and wants to play in his last year.  Could give GB a nice boost since they're already going into the year as likely Horizon favorite.

The Syracuse shot was one of the most important moments of our season.  Thanks for obviously practicing hard (enough to get PT), it made the starters, and the team in general, much better.  Thanks, Jake, and good luck wherever you land, they'll be lucky to have you.

Quote from: ElDonBDon on April 03, 2013, 09:07:53 PM
The Syracuse shot was one of the most important moments of our season.  Thanks for obviously practicing hard (enough to get PT), it made the starters, and the team in general, much better.  Thanks, Jake, and good luck wherever you land, they'll be lucky to have you.

AGREE

GB needs some outside firepower.  They have a future NBAer in 7 foot Alec Brown, an all conference point guard in Kiefer Sykes and exposive athlete forwards Jordan Fouse and Alphonso McKinnie.  Will Brian Wardle get an early Christmas present?

UWM is a mess right now.  UIC is on the rise and might be a good fit.

One step closer for ZFBs signature prediction.

Boy, I find that odd.  I mean, the usual reason a guy leaves is that he wants PT.  -- But when he transferred to MU, he had to have known he wasn't going to get it here.  

I suppose it could be financial.  He's off scholarship, so hey, finish up at a school that'll give him a scholly instead of dropping $40k at Marquette.

That would make a lot of sense.

Very Strange that he walked on, he was fortunate to receive a scholarship. Hope he has a great senior season.

I liked Jake Thomas a lot played vs him in high school and always thought he was a good player.  It is however a good thing another scholarship opened up.  Do we have to drop another player before next year?  I am not exactly sure where Marquette is at scholarship wise.

Could he had remained on the team as a walk-on?

Quote from: mu_hilltopper on April 03, 2013, 09:33:38 PM
I suppose it could be financial.  He's off scholarship, so hey, finish up at a school that'll give him a scholly instead of dropping $40k at Marquette.

But when he signed up to come here he had to have done it prepared to pay his way for up to three years.  Instead he ended up with a scholarship for the first two, and grad school vs. undergrad tuition could save a small amount on the third...not to mention when all's said and done there could very well be a scholarship for him, similar to how there wasn't going to be one the past two years until the last minute.

Quote from: Rockmic87 on April 03, 2013, 10:11:02 PM
Could he had remained on the team as a walk-on?

And he has to pay his way while riding pine?

Probably not what he wants.

Any of those programs mentioned would be lucky to have Jake, a hard worker and seemingly a good teammate. He never was a high-major player, despite those who hoped and prayed he would be. Best of luck to him in the future.

Jordan Fouse at GB is also a grad of Racine St Catherines.  I dunno of they played together since Jake is a few years older

Quote from: Tommypop on April 03, 2013, 10:09:21 PM
I liked Jake Thomas a lot played vs him in high school and always thought he was a good player.  It is however a good thing another scholarship opened up.  Do we have to drop another player before next year?  I am not exactly sure where Marquette is at scholarship wise.

Him transferring doesn't change the scholarship situation as he was told he would not have one next season.  He only received one the past two years because we were under the limit, that is not the case next year.  We are still one over if Otule decides to return.

Kind of hard to see what motivates him based on his career path. He was ready to come here and pay while riding the pine, but now is transferring for more playing time? Maybe he felt he got the big time experience with two long NCAA trips and wants to add the experience of being a team leader before he goes out. That said you would think he should focus more on a school with a great masters program versus playing time at this point in his life.

Quote from: martyconlonontherun on April 03, 2013, 10:40:41 PM
Kind of hard to see what motivates him based on his career path. He was ready to come here and pay while riding the pine, but now is transferring for more playing time? Maybe he felt he got the big time experience with two long NCAA trips and wants to add the experience of being a team leader before he goes out. That said you would think he should focus more on a school with a great masters program versus playing time at this point in his life.

Perhaps his family's financial situation has changed from when he initially came to MU and paying $40,000 out of pocket isn't as feasible as it was then.  Lots of possible reasons other than wanting PT

A  shooter that couldn't/ wouldn't/ didn't shoot.    Got tired  of watching him catch and fake as opposed to catch and shoot.    Especially  so against zones.   Good luck on where ever he lands.

Good Luck Jake, hope it works out for you.

Will really remember his 'Cuse 4 point play for a while. Also him skying in for the putback (and landing hard) in the devastating loss to Butler in Maui.

Best of luck to Jake wherever he goes. I think UWGB would be best fit. Program on the rise and still close to home.

Quote from: chapman on April 03, 2013, 09:03:34 PM
South Alabama?  Okay.  Yeah, guessing he's graduating and wants to play in his last year.  Could give GB a nice boost since they're already going into the year as likely Horizon favorite.

South Alabama just hired Butler's top assistant.  Probably a connection there somewhere.

He may be graduating this May and can get an immediate transfer to get more PT.  He's put four years of college in already considering the year he had to sit out at MU.

man, I can totally see him fitting in at UWGB w/Wardle.

Quote from: martyconlonontherun on April 03, 2013, 10:40:41 PM
Kind of hard to see what motivates him based on his career path. He was ready to come here and pay while riding the pine, but now is transferring for more playing time? Maybe he felt he got the big time experience with two long NCAA trips and wants to add the experience of being a team leader before he goes out. That said you would think he should focus more on a school with a great masters program versus playing time at this point in his life.

It's possible that he wanted to be a part of a major basketball program even if it meant a major decrease in PT. He saw an opportunity close to home and took it. After 2 years, riding the pine got old and he realized he'd rather be on the court even if it was at a lesser program.

Quote from: Niv Berkowitz on April 04, 2013, 07:56:43 AM
man, I can totally see him fitting in at UWGB w/Wardle.

They only lose Cougill. Sykes, Fouse, and Brown are back. Add a shooter to that mix and they could be really good next season.

Thanks for the Cuse shot heard round the world.

Echoing others, it seems like UWGB would be an excellent situation for him.  He has already experienced the NCAA tournament as a bit player.  With what they have coming back he would likely get back as a major player.  Not bad for him - he came in as a walk-on, lucked into a free degree from MU with 2 great tournament runs, then gets to head elsewhere for a major-role swan song.  Someone played his cards right.

My guess is that he will light it up in the Horizon.  Big East speed tends to cause major problems for pure shooters unless you are Steve Novak.

Quote from: lohaus on April 03, 2013, 10:56:50 PM
A  shooter that couldn't/ wouldn't/ didn't shoot.    Got tired  of watching him catch and fake as opposed to catch and shoot.    Especially  so against zones.   Good luck on where ever he lands.

Seemed to be slow on the draw.  Not a slam, and it will work out better @ a smaller school.  Good Luck Jake.

PS.  With Kam Ceroni leaving GB, there is an opening for a 3 pt bomber.

Quote from: WarhawkWarrior on April 04, 2013, 11:00:45 AM
My guess is that he will light it up in the Horizon.  Big East speed tends to cause major problems for pure shooters unless you are Steve Novak.

And so the legend continues...

Quote from: lohaus on April 03, 2013, 10:56:50 PM
A  shooter that couldn't/ wouldn't/ didn't shoot.    Got tired  of watching him catch and fake as opposed to catch and shoot.    Especially  so against zones.   Good luck on where ever he lands.

I love the TRUTH!! On the nose!

Slowly, the Brian Wardle empire grows, nabbing Jake Thomas .. all in preparation to be Marquette's next coach.

A shame losing Jake.  Some things we will miss:

• A zone buster to break zones when everyone else is not hitting
• Another practice player.  Especially a practice player who can play the role of gunner of the other team

Best of luck to Jake.

Quote from: MarquetteDano on April 04, 2013, 12:30:02 PM
A shame losing Jake.  Some things we will miss:

• A zone buster to break zones when everyone else is not hitting

He did that a grand total of once this past year.  [/list]

Quote from: Terror Skink on April 04, 2013, 12:32:15 PM

He did that a grand total of once this past year.  [/list]

Strange, I remember getting laid into by more than a few posters here when I said he would barely see the court.

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on April 04, 2013, 12:34:51 PM
Strange, I remember getting laid into by more than a few posters here when I said he would barely see the court.

You and me both.

I was not on board the Jake Thomas kool-aid train, but in fairness he contributed a lot more than a typical walk-on (yes I know he was technically on scholarship).

Quote from: Jajuannaman on April 04, 2013, 12:53:32 PM
I was not on board the Jake Thomas kool-aid train, but in fairness he contributed a lot more than a typical walk-on (yes I know he was technically on scholarship).

After the BE season started on January 1, the only time he scored was the four point play v. Syracuse. 

23 games...32 total minutes....12 DNPs...one made basket.

Quote from: Terror Skink on April 04, 2013, 12:58:46 PM

After the BE season started on January 1, the only time he scored was the four point play v. Syracuse. 

23 games...32 total minutes....12 DNPs...one made basket.

For perspective...

Rob Frozena's senior year from conference play on:

7 games...8 minutes...17 DNPs...one made basket.

Quote from: Terror Skink on April 04, 2013, 12:58:46 PM

After the BE season started on January 1, the only time he scored was the four point play v. Syracuse. 

23 games...32 total minutes....12 DNPs...one made basket.

Right, but when Mayo was out he got some good run.  Way more than any walk-on at MU I've ever seen.  Is he a Big East caliber player?  No.  Is he your typical walk-on human victory cigar?  No.

Alright...so Thomas was better than a typical walk-on.  

yep, Jake Thomas has already become the next Scott Christopherson...

Hope we get the board posting every time he hits a three at UW-GB, UW-Milwaukee or South Alabama or anywhere he goes.   And then the magical comment, imagine if we had Jake on this years team comment.

Good times...  

and best of luck to Jake...

Quote from: MU B2002 on April 04, 2013, 11:26:32 AM
And so the legend continues...

Quote from: Jajuannaman on April 04, 2013, 12:53:32 PM
I was not on board the Jake Thomas kool-aid train, but in fairness he contributed a lot more than a typical walk-on (yes I know he was technically on scholarship).

Not to be negative, but I'm searching for evidence of him contributing a lot.

He had a measurable impact in exact 4 games:

-- 3 treys in a decisive victory over a terrible Mississippi State team we would have crushed anyway.

-- 12 points in a rout over a UMBC team we would have routed anyway.

-- the missed 3-pointer against Green Bay. This marked the last time Jake played more than 10 minutes in any game, as Buzz realized exactly what role Jake should have (and, more importantly, shouldn't have).

-- the 4-point play against Syracuse, helping us halve an 8-point deficit and gain some momentum when we desperately needed it.

The latter was legitimately a huge contribution, and a major out-of-nowhere surprise given that he had barely played a lick during the entire Big East season. Still, some forget that Syracuse actually rebuilt its lead to 7 in the second half during another stretch when an overmatched Jake was in the game.

Syracuse still led by 7 with under 8 minutes to go until other bench players -- Gardner, Jamil, Taylor and Mayo -- put us in control. It's pretty easy to argue that Mayo's 3-pointer, coming during the decisive run, had at least as much impact as (or more than) Jake's.

He's a Horizon League player. I'm glad he'll be able to compete again at that level.

Never stop recruitin'. I'm figurin' instead of currently bein' over signed by 1, Buzz will end up needin' to offer at least one more kid to fill his roster.

Quote from: MU82 on April 04, 2013, 01:14:03 PM
Not to be negative, but I'm searching for evidence of him contributing a lot.

He had a measurable impact in exact 4 games:

-- 3 treys in a decisive victory over a terrible Mississippi State team we would have crushed anyway.

-- 12 points in a rout over a UMBC team we would have routed anyway.

-- the missed 3-pointer against Green Bay. This marked the last time Jake played more than 10 minutes in any game, as Buzz realized exactly what role Jake should have (and, more importantly, shouldn't have).

-- the 4-point play against Syracuse, helping us halve an 8-point deficit and gain some momentum when we desperately needed it.

The latter was legitimately a huge contribution, and a major out-of-nowhere surprise given that he had barely played a lick during the entire Big East season. Still, some forget that Syracuse actually rebuilt its lead to 7 in the second half during another stretch when an overmatched Jake was in the game.

Syracuse still led by 7 with under 8 minutes to go until other bench players -- Gardner, Jamil, Taylor and Mayo -- put us in control. It's pretty easy to argue that Mayo's 3-pointer, coming during the decisive run, had at least as much impact as (or more than) Jake's.

He's a Horizon League player. I'm glad he'll be able to compete again at that level.

The GB game was also the last game the team played before Mayo came back, which is why Jake's minutes decreased the rest of the way.

Quote from: MerrittsMustache on April 04, 2013, 01:22:16 PM
The GB game was also the last game the team played before Mayo came back, which is why Jake's minutes decreased the rest of the way.

With Mayo out, Jake had a great opportunity -- one he probably never expected -- to prove to Buzz that he merited a decent amount of playing time. Had Jake shown he warranted decent P.T., he still would have gotten some. There were many, many Big East games in which Mayo hardly played (or didn't play at all) in which Jake barely saw the court or didn't see it at all. Mayo didn't play in the resounding NCAA win over Miami; neither did Jake.

Look, Jake is what he is. I'm happy for him that he received a scholarship to a great school like Marquette after coming aboard as a walk-on. I had to laugh at some of the crazy expectations that some here had for him before the season. Now that it's over, as we wish him well, I suppose it's only appropriate that we can let the legend build a little again.

Quote from: MU82 on April 04, 2013, 01:14:03 PM
Not to be negative, but I'm searching for evidence of him contributing a lot.

He had a measurable impact in exact 4 games:

-- 3 treys in a decisive victory over a terrible Mississippi State team we would have crushed anyway.

-- 12 points in a rout over a UMBC team we would have routed anyway.

-- the missed 3-pointer against Green Bay. This marked the last time Jake played more than 10 minutes in any game, as Buzz realized exactly what role Jake should have (and, more importantly, shouldn't have).

-- the 4-point play against Syracuse, helping us halve an 8-point deficit and gain some momentum when we desperately needed it.

The latter was legitimately a huge contribution, and a major out-of-nowhere surprise given that he had barely played a lick during the entire Big East season. Still, some forget that Syracuse actually rebuilt its lead to 7 in the second half during another stretch when an overmatched Jake was in the game.

Syracuse still led by 7 with under 8 minutes to go until other bench players -- Gardner, Jamil, Taylor and Mayo -- put us in control. It's pretty easy to argue that Mayo's 3-pointer, coming during the decisive run, had at least as much impact as (or more than) Jake's.

He's a Horizon League player. I'm glad he'll be able to compete again at that level.

He was also on the court on the final play at Davidson as a decoy... and it actually WORKED.  Any chance Frozena would have been out there in that situation?  He also got run in the Cuse Elite 8 game.  Didn't do anything of note, but do you think Frozena would have been out there in that situation?  And you left out the Butler Maui play that would have won the game had that warthog Clarke not hit a prayer.  Would Frozena have been out there much less converted that play? 

I think we're saying the same thing here.  He contributed way more than a typical walk-on, but he's not a Big East caliber player.  He was also not the zone-busting three point sniper at this level that some made him out to be.  Maybe he will be when he goes a notch lower in competition.

Quote from: Terror Skink on April 04, 2013, 01:12:16 PM
Alright...so Thomas was better than a typical walk-on.  

All I was trying to say.

Quote from: 4everwarriors on April 04, 2013, 01:15:46 PM
Never stop recruitin'. I'm figurin' instead of currently bein' over signed by 1, Buzz will end up needin' to offer at least one more kid to fill his roster.

Thomas was not slated to get a scholarship next year anyway.  He was always going back to walk-on status.  This changes nothing in that regard.  You're saying two more players will leave?

Quote from: Jajuannaman on April 04, 2013, 01:37:15 PM
He was also on the court on the final play at Davidson as a decoy... and it actually WORKED.  Any chance Frozena would have been out there in that situation?  He also got run in the Cuse Elite 8 game.  Didn't do anything of note, but do you think Frozena would have been out there in that situation?  And you left out the Butler Maui play that would have won the game had that warthog Clarke not hit a prayer.  Would Frozena have been out there much less converted that play? 

I think we're saying the same thing here.  He contributed way more than a typical walk-on, but he's not a Big East caliber player.  He was also not the zone-busting three point sniper at this level that some made him out to be.  Maybe he will be when he goes a notch lower in competition.

Fair enough.

Quote from: Terror Skink on April 04, 2013, 12:58:46 PM

After the BE season started on January 1, the only time he scored was the four point play v. Syracuse.  

23 games...32 total minutes....12 DNPs...one made basket.

I was one of the people who thought Jake was capable of earning up to 10min per game as a role player.

I was wrong.

HOWEVER, some of those "pro-Jake" conversations were had before Trent Lockett was added to the roster.

Once Trent was added, minutes became scarce.


EDIT: I thought Jake had a skill that nobody else did: Shooting. I was 1/2 right. Nobody else could shoot. The only problem was, neither could Jake.

Quote from: Guns n Ammo on April 04, 2013, 02:19:33 PM
I was one of the people who thought Jake was capable of earning up to 10min per game as a role player.

I was wrong.

HOWEVER, some of those "pro-Jake" conversations were had before Trent Lockett was added to the roster.

Once Trent was added, minutes became scarce.

Here's something I didn't think I'd say when Trent was struggling at first: Thank goodness for Trent Lockett!! I came to appreciate him very much as a solid player who did so many little things well it was difficult to take him out of games. Judging by all the testimonials he got from Buzz and his mates, he also was a heck of a great guy to have on the squad.

Goodman just confirmed that Jake will be immediately eligible...graduating from MU this spring.

Good for him. He had a nice cameo in the great movie that was this year's run.

I wouldn't be surprised if Buzz picked up the phone and called Wardle and a few others to vouch for Jake's work ethic and value to a Horizon League team.

I'd love to see him put up double digit points and shoot 40% from 3 for UWGB next year.

Quote from: MU82 on April 04, 2013, 02:41:06 PM
Here's something I didn't think I'd say when Trent was struggling at first: Thank goodness for Trent Lockett!! I came to appreciate him very much as a solid player who did so many little things well it was difficult to take him out of games. Judging by all the testimonials he got from Buzz and his mates, he also was a heck of a great guy to have on the squad.

I'll agree with that wholeheartedly.  I thought I learned my lesson with Jimmy B, Cubillan, Acker and others not to write off players under Buzz til they're done.  I admit I had moments questioning Lockett's minutes throughout most of the Big East season.  Then he turned the corner at the perfect time and TOTALLY REDEEMED HIMSELF.  I'm sure he did a ton behind the scenes as well that went unnoticed to us throughout the season.  Glad we picked him up.

It would hurt to see him go somewhere and ball like crazy. I would have to look at Buzz like "WTF, your bootcamp is killing the players game."

Buzz is hardly the only coach that has a boot camp type approach.  And it hardly kills their game.

Quote from: Sunbelt15 on April 04, 2013, 03:24:13 PM
It would hurt to see him go somewhere and ball like crazy. I would have to look at Buzz like "WTF, your bootcamp is killing the players game."

Uhhhh..... what?

Quote from: Terror Skink on April 04, 2013, 03:14:42 PM
Goodman just confirmed that Jake will be immediately eligible...graduating from MU this spring.

Great news!  Congratulations Jake.  

I can see it from his point of view.  He could either go through another Boot Camp etc. and be even deeper on the bench or find a fit working toward his Master's Degree and get significant playing time providing leadership to his team.  I'm really hoping Wardle wants him.  I already really like the Green Bay team (except what they did to us) and would be happy to follow them even more closely if Jake landed there.

See ya later Jake and good luck. Now bring on Garrett Swanson as the next "traditional" who might see the court during garbage time

Degree and potential first year of grad school paid as he uses his last year of eligibility?

No brainer! Wise decision, Jake!

Quote from: Sunbelt15 on April 04, 2013, 03:24:13 PM
It would hurt to see him go somewhere and ball like crazy. I would have to look at Buzz like "WTF, your bootcamp is killing the players game."

Yes, it will sting when Jake receives National Player of the Year next season.

Quote from: madtownwarrior on April 04, 2013, 01:13:49 PM
yep, Jake Thomas has already become the next Scott Christopherson...

Hope we get the board posting every time he hits a three at UW-GB, UW-Milwaukee or South Alabama or anywhere he goes.   And then the magical comment, imagine if we had Jake on this years team comment.

Good times...  

and best of luck to Jake...

Heh.

Scott Christopherson was the 2nd best player on a Big 12 team that pushed one of the best teams in the history of the NCAA as much as any team in the NCAA Tournament did in the 2nd round (again, I refuse to count the play-in games as the "first round").  He was an All Big 12 player for Iowa State.  Thomas would fill the same roll for Iowa State that he did for Marquette...walk-on.  The two are apples to oranges.

Quote from: madtownwarrior on April 04, 2013, 01:13:49 PM
Hope we get the board posting every time he hits a three at UW-GB, UW-Milwaukee or South Alabama or anywhere he goes.   And then the magical comment, imagine if we had Jake on this years team comment.

At least he *could* have still been on the team.  Unlike all the comments in Christopherson's 5th year and Mbakwe's 12th year about how good they'd be on this team, missing the point that they would have exhausted their eligibility had they stayed.

Quote from: Jajuannaman on April 04, 2013, 01:40:47 PM
Thomas was not slated to get a scholarship next year anyway.  He was always going back to walk-on status.  This changes nothing in that regard.  You're saying two more players will leave?

Not true. Jake and family I hear were under the impression a scholly was more than likely.  I don't like this.  Kid didn't pan out but I'm told the scholly was not renewed much to he and his family's disappointment.  I love Buzz but don't like the way this was handled and feel for the kid.  He wanted to be here.

Quote from: Hold the Mayo on April 04, 2013, 09:37:47 PM
Not true. Jake and family I hear were under the impression a scholly was more than likely.  I don't like this.  Kid didn't pan out but I'm told the scholly was not renewed much to he and his family's disappointment.  I love Buzz but don't like the way this was handled and feel for the kid.  He wanted to be here.

Don't believe at all that this was "handled" in a bad way.  He decided to come here and be a walk-on and lucked into a scholarship.  Then a summer drop/transfer of Taylor gave him a second scholarship that there was no plan of giving him.  Then he expected Buzz would set aside a third?    Was Buzz supposed to pass on top incoming talent to make sure a walk-on received a scholarship that he was never promised for the third year in a row?  I recall Buzz explicitly stating after the first year scholarship was given that he had made it clear to Thomas it was not something he should expect to happen again.  Not buying this was the expectation; Thomas is smarter than that.

Edit, here it is:

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/129541808.html

Quote"I think it's the right thing to do. I was very open and honest -- 'This is a one-year deal. You guys were going to pay your way. I can't use both of them now. This is the right thing to do. But don't have any misconceived ideas about why I'm doing it.'

"I'm not trying to make it out like, 'Look what I did.' It's the right thing to do, and let's move on."

It's also been reported that Thomas is graduatin'. Could just fade off into the sunset.

Quote from: chapman on April 04, 2013, 09:54:48 PM
Don't believe at all that this was "handled" in a bad way.  He decided to come here and be a walk-on and lucked into a scholarship.  Then a summer drop/transfer of Taylor gave him a second scholarship that there was no plan of giving him.  Then he expected Buzz would set aside a third?    Was Buzz supposed to pass on top incoming talent to make sure a walk-on received a scholarship that he was never promised for the third year in a row?  I recall Buzz explicitly stating after the first year scholarship was given that he had made it clear to Thomas it was not something he should expect to happen again.  Not buying this was the expectation; Thomas is smarter than that.

Agreed. Anyone who follows MU hoops at all was aware that scholarship was not going to be available next year. I'm not buying he didn't know either.

Quote from: chapman on April 04, 2013, 09:54:48 PM
Don't believe at all that this was "handled" in a bad way.  He decided to come here and be a walk-on and lucked into a scholarship.  Then a summer drop/transfer of Taylor gave him a second scholarship that there was no plan of giving him.  Then he expected Buzz would set aside a third?    Was Buzz supposed to pass on top incoming talent to make sure a walk-on received a scholarship that he was never promised for the third year in a row?  I recall Buzz explicitly stating after the first year scholarship was given that he had made it clear to Thomas it was not something he should expect to happen again.  Not buying this was the expectation; Thomas is smarter than that.

It's no coincidence Jake is transferring again. Not his choice from what I hear.  Big time athletics has its warts everywhere. Just wish it wasn't our school

Quote from: Hold the Mayo on April 04, 2013, 10:00:37 PM
It's no coincidence Jake is transferring again. Not his choice from what I hear.  Big time athletics has its warts everywhere. Just wish it wasn't our school

Certainly could have told him there was no chance that dumb luck strikes again and he gets another scholarship.  Heck, might have been told that in the slim chance one does free up he was going to keep it open for a potential mid-year transfer, maybe even give it to Swanson or Flood so they can have a turn.  But no way Buzz told him he wasn't welcome to remain on the team as a walk-on.

Quote from: madtownwarrior on April 04, 2013, 01:13:49 PM
yep, Jake Thomas has already become the next Scott Christopherson...

Hope we get the board posting every time he hits a three at UW-GB, UW-Milwaukee or South Alabama or anywhere he goes.   And then the magical comment, imagine if we had Jake on this years team comment.

Good times...  

and best of luck to Jake...

I wish he had.  Two time all Big 12 player, one of the best shooters in the country....I wish he had

Quote from: Hold the Mayo on April 04, 2013, 10:00:37 PM
It's no coincidence Jake is transferring again. Not his choice from what I hear.  Big time athletics has its warts everywhere. Just wish it wasn't our school

Not his choice as in he would say if he had a schollie? Stay if he had playing time? Or are you really implying Buzz is kicking him off the team?

Quote from: Hold the Mayo on April 04, 2013, 10:00:37 PM
It's no coincidence Jake is transferring again. Not his choice from what I hear.  Big time athletics has its warts everywhere. Just wish it wasn't our school

Did you not read this??

Quote"I think it's the right thing to do. I was very open and honest -- 'This is a one-year deal. You guys were going to pay your way. I can't use both of them now. This is the right thing to do. But don't have any misconceived ideas about why I'm doing it.'

"I'm not trying to make it out like, 'Look what I did.' It's the right thing to do, and let's move on."

Buzz must think we need better players. This isn't the CYO league.

Quote from: Hold the Mayo on April 04, 2013, 10:00:37 PM
It's no coincidence Jake is transferring again. Not his choice from what I hear.  Big time athletics has its warts everywhere. Just wish it wasn't our school

You cannot be serious.  Thomas transferred to MU with full knowledge that he would walk on.  Wound up getting two years of school paid for with little on the court contribution.  He could have chosen to stay as a walk on, but to think he deserved a scholarship is a joke.  Good for him, but he got by far the better end of the deal...MU did right by him.

really? - articles in the paper made it clear he was a walk-on who got lucky to get scholarships the past two years.    

if he was Big east talent, he would have got one...

Quote from: Hold the Mayo on April 04, 2013, 10:00:37 PM
It's no coincidence Jake is transferring again. Not his choice from what I hear.  Big time athletics has its warts everywhere. Just wish it wasn't our school

Buzz gave him 2 years on scholarship when he was probably going to get one, that is about 80 to 90 grand, I think that was good deal for Jake.

Big 12 Honorable mention in 2011
3rd team in 2012

honorable mention and 3rd team = two time all Big 12 player

I guess so but a bit of a stretch....

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on April 04, 2013, 10:08:15 PM
I wish he had.  Two time all Big 12 player, one of the best shooters in the country....I wish he had

I wish Taylor had worked out and, lets face it, he had a GOLDEN opportunity. He was a jump shooter who did not hit jump shots and lost all confidence. Even late in the year spot minutes, he was hesitant to pull the trigger. I hate to say it, but if there is fault somewhere it lies with Jake. Didn't do what they brought him here to do...save for one of the biggest shots of the season.

Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on April 05, 2013, 07:17:53 AM
I wish Taylor Thomas had worked out and, lets face it, he had a GOLDEN opportunity. He was a jump shooter who did not hit jump shots and lost all confidence. Even late in the year spot minutes, he was hesitant to pull the trigger. I hate to say it, but if there is fault somewhere it lies with Jake. Didn't do what they brought him here to do...save for one of the biggest shots of the season.

Fixed.

Quote from: wadesworld on April 05, 2013, 07:19:33 AM
Fixed.

Goddamn it! I obviously have another Milwaukee sports legend on my mind. Jake Taylor was the catcher in "Major League."

Now, it will be interesting to learn about the next roster change.

Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on April 05, 2013, 07:17:53 AM
I wish Taylor had worked out and, lets face it, he had a GOLDEN opportunity. He was a jump shooter who did not hit jump shots and lost all confidence. Even late in the year spot minutes, he was hesitant to pull the trigger. I hate to say it, but if there is fault somewhere it lies with Jake. Didn't do what they brought him here to do...save for one of the biggest shots of the season.

Jake wasn't necessarily "hesitant to pull the trigger," he has a slow shot. Shots that he could get off at SD were not shots he was able to get off in the BE. Part of the reason that he only shot around 30% this season was that he needed to rush his shots. No fault lies with Jake for not being more successful at MU. He's simply not good enough to be a Big East contributor, which is why he ended up at South Dakota to begin with and why he was a walk-on who played 32 minutes in conference play at MU.

I don't say this to rip the kid. He's a better basketball player than any of us will ever be, but he's just not BE caliber.

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on April 04, 2013, 10:08:15 PM
I wish he had.  Two time all Big 12 player, one of the best shooters in the country....I wish he had

Yes, maybe that way we could have avoided the on-court disaster that was DJO  ::)

Quote from: Hold the Mayo on April 04, 2013, 10:00:37 PM
It's no coincidence Jake is transferring again. Not his choice from what I hear.  Big time athletics has its warts everywhere. Just wish it wasn't our school

Even with the "Buzz v. Larry" threads, we have a new leader for "Most Asinine Post of the Offseason."

Quote from: MUfan12 on April 05, 2013, 07:52:02 AM
Even with the "Buzz v. Larry" threads, we have a new leader for "Most Asinine Post of the Offseason."

C'mon, Jake has every right to post his opinion on MUSCOOP.

Quote from: MerrittsMustache on April 05, 2013, 07:40:36 AM
Yes, maybe that way we could have avoided the on-court disaster that was DJO  ::)

A good outside shooter that's also an athletic freak AND can create his own shot in the half court? The HORROR!

Quote from: Jajuannaman on April 05, 2013, 08:31:06 AM
A good outside shooter that's also an athletic freak AND can create his own shot in the half court? The HORROR!

Not traditional enough for Chicos.  This is more of what he likes to see:

http://deadspin.com/this-footage-of-white-dudes-playing-basketball-in-1932-463091718

Good bye and good luck, Jake. Didn't see what we heard so much about on the board - unable or unwilling to get the shots off - of course, that didn't make him stand out vs. Cuse. Pretty athletic for a traditional, hope he has a good run for his last year.

Quote from: Terror Skink on April 05, 2013, 08:34:23 AM

Not traditional enough for Chicos.  This is more of what he likes to see:

http://deadspin.com/this-footage-of-white-dudes-playing-basketball-in-1932-463091718

Mock the guys in that link all you want, but do you have any idea how many times in a row they've finished top 4 in the Big10 regular season???

Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on April 05, 2013, 07:17:53 AM
I wish Taylor had worked out and, lets face it, he had a GOLDEN opportunity. He was a jump shooter who did not hit jump shots and lost all confidence. Even late in the year spot minutes, he was hesitant to pull the trigger. I hate to say it, but if there is fault somewhere it lies with Jake. Didn't do what they brought him here to do...save for one of the biggest shots of the season.

That reminds me...I wish TJ Taylor didn't decide to quit right before the season started.  Was a shooter that also had a golden opportunity...

Quote from: dwaderoy2004 on April 05, 2013, 10:09:45 AM
That reminds me...I wish TJ Taylor didn't decide to quit right before the season started.  Was a shooter that also had a golden opportunity...

TJT only shot 33% from three at Paris, but he shot it enough to make people respect it.
Kind of Mayo-esque IMO.

Quote from: Terror Skink on April 05, 2013, 10:30:06 AM

TJT only shot 33% from three at Paris, but he shot it enough to make people respect it.
Kind of Mayo-esque IMO.

Fair.  More of a scorer than a shooter.  Still...33% would have been 2nd best on the team.

Quote from: BCHoopster on April 04, 2013, 10:12:42 PM
Buzz gave him 2 years on scholarship when he was probably going to get one, that is about 80 to 90 grand, I think that was good deal for Jake.

Plus, he can now get a scholie elsewhere for his final season (presuming he graduates ).   Jake has made out well and has had some memorable experiences with MU.  Best of wishes for Jake's future.

Quote from: BCHoopster on April 04, 2013, 10:12:42 PM
Buzz gave him 2 years on scholarship when he was probably going to get one, that is about 80 to 90 grand, I think that was good deal for Jake.

We should all be so disrespected in our lives.

Quote from: Terror Skink on April 05, 2013, 10:30:06 AM

TJT only shot 33% from three at Paris, but he shot it enough to make people respect it.
Kind of Mayo-esque IMO.

So he would have been an upgrade from three over virtually the entire team.

Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on April 05, 2013, 07:22:52 AM
Goddamn it! I obviously have another Milwaukee sports legend on my mind. Jake Taylor was the catcher in "Major League."

Oh, the Milwaukee Indians?

Jk

We need an "aircraft carrier" if Otule isn't coming back. Stone is 2 seasons away. I hope their is one available that can play immediately. Hopefully Otule comes back.

Quote from: Earl Tatum on April 06, 2013, 10:10:11 AM
We need an "aircraft carrier" if Otule isn't coming back. Stone is 2 seasons away. I hope their is one available that can play immediately. Hopefully Otule comes back.

Hopefully Otule comes back then we snag a top-flight JUCO 5 to bridge the one-year gap before Stone.

Quote from: dwaderoy2004 on April 05, 2013, 10:38:03 AM
Fair.  More of a scorer than a shooter.  Still...33% would have been 2nd best on the team.

But that was at a Junior College, would probably translate to 25%'ish in the Big East.  Cadougan shot something like 40-42% in High School from 3, big difference at the Div. 1 level.  Game moves much faster.

Likely why TJT was on the first Bus out of town.

Junior guard Jake Thomas has asked for his release and it was granted by Marquette University. Thomas arrived on campus as a walk-on and was awarded a scholarship the last two seasons because the program had one available below the NCAA maximum of 13.

The Racine, Wis., native wasn't going to receive a scholarship in 2013-14 based on the size of the current incoming recruiting class.

"We are gr...ateful for all the energy and work Jake put in our program while he was here," head coach Buzz Williams said. "He was a great teammate, and I am thankful for my relationship with Jake and his entire family. As a graduate student, he is looking for a new opportunity, and we are all in complete support of that."

"My decision wasn't based on whether or not I had a scholarship for next season," Thomas said. "Buzz had explained to me when I first got here that a scholarship for my third year was unlikely. I just want to have my last year of college basketball be at a program where I can play significant minutes and contribute to a team.

"My two years at MU have been some of the best of my life and I have loved the opportunity to be closer to my family, Thomas added. "All of the coaches at MU have been helpful during this process and understand my situation."

Such puts to rest the lame rumor that he felt it was unfair he wouldn't have a scholarship, and leaves the sensible explanation.  Thanks, Jake.

Quote from: mupanther on April 07, 2013, 07:00:54 AM
Junior guard Jake Thomas has asked for his release and it was granted by Marquette University. Thomas arrived on campus as a walk-on and was awarded a scholarship the last two seasons because the program had one available below the NCAA maximum of 13.

The Racine, Wis., native wasn't going to receive a scholarship in 2013-14 based on the size of the current incoming recruiting class.

"We are gr...ateful for all the energy and work Jake put in our program while he was here," head coach Buzz Williams said. "He was a great teammate, and I am thankful for my relationship with Jake and his entire family. As a graduate student, he is looking for a new opportunity, and we are all in complete support of that."

"My decision wasn't based on whether or not I had a scholarship for next season," Thomas said. "Buzz had explained to me when I first got here that a scholarship for my third year was unlikely. I just want to have my last year of college basketball be at a program where I can play significant minutes and contribute to a team.

"My two years at MU have been some of the best of my life and I have loved the opportunity to be closer to my family, Thomas added. "All of the coaches at MU have been helpful during this process and understand my situation."

Where did you find this?

Quote from: mu-rara on April 07, 2013, 01:06:26 PM
Where did you find this?

https://www.facebook.com/MarquetteMensBB

I now understand what Buzz was hoping for from JT