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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: silverback on March 30, 2013, 05:12:40 PM

Title: Next Year
Post by: silverback on March 30, 2013, 05:12:40 PM
After Junior leaves, who takes over up high?
Title: Re: Who is the point guard next year?
Post by: brewcity77 on March 30, 2013, 05:13:43 PM
No. We have a game to play.
Title: Re: Who is the point guard next year?
Post by: setyoursightsnorth on March 30, 2013, 05:18:58 PM
Quote from: brewcity77 on March 30, 2013, 05:13:43 PM
No. We have a game to play.
+1,000,000
Title: Re: Who is the point guard next year?
Post by: Sunbelt15 on March 30, 2013, 05:27:05 PM
Obviously he thinks the game is over. Turn back to CBS.
Title: Re: Who is the point guard next year?
Post by: Markusquette on March 30, 2013, 05:28:05 PM
Duane Wilson
Title: Re: Who is the point guard next year?
Post by: 4everwarriors on March 30, 2013, 05:28:25 PM
Duane Wilson
Title: Re: Who is the point guard next year?
Post by: wadesworld on March 30, 2013, 05:30:25 PM
Junior couldn't score his freshman or sophomore years either.  Derrick Wilson does the 2 most important things for a point guard to do better than anyone else on this team, and that is not turn the ball over and defend.  Wilson played better the entire tournament than Junior did.  I can't wait to see Wilson prove everyone wrong next year and lead this team to the Final Four.
Title: Re: Who is the point guard next year?
Post by: Clam Crowder on March 30, 2013, 05:39:21 PM
A Wilson....
Title: Re: Who is the point guard next year?
Post by: wheresthecake? on March 30, 2013, 05:42:08 PM
D. Wilson  ;)
Title: Re: Who is the point guard next year?
Post by: Sunbelt15 on March 30, 2013, 05:44:18 PM
Quote from: wheresthecake? on March 30, 2013, 05:42:08 PM
D. Wilson  ;)

Scoring must improve. Alot!
Title: Next Year
Post by: Clam Crowder on March 30, 2013, 05:44:25 PM
Looking back at this year...We were rebuilding. We didn't know who our leader would be, we didn't know what we had. Now we have our first Elite since 2003. Now we have 2 maybe 3 players leaving.

Junior-A good leader, but not an amazing player
Trent-A great rebounder, turnover prone
Otule-Hopefully will not leave.

We have an amazing class coming in, we have SHOOTERS in that class, we have Steve Taylor 2.0, Jamil, Vander, and Ox all back. We have something good next year, and we have a program that has become great.
Title: Re: Who is the point guard next year?
Post by: Hards Alumni on March 30, 2013, 05:44:31 PM
Derrick Wilson has pretty damn good vision.  If he works on his scoring this off season he can be very good.  He has all of the athletic tools.
Title: Re: Who is the point guard next year?
Post by: Clam Crowder on March 30, 2013, 05:45:43 PM
Problem is Derrick needs to work on something that currently doesn't exist. It is not a matter of working on something, its a matter of CREATING a whole new dimension to his game.
Title: Re: Who is the point guard next year?
Post by: chapman on March 30, 2013, 05:46:08 PM
Duane Wilson.  Derrick's ceiling is serviceable backup point guard on both ends.  Hard worker, just no talent.  Got to go with a playmaker.  Unless Buzz does the Anderson "starter".
Title: Re: Next Year
Post by: mileskishnish72 on March 30, 2013, 06:08:19 PM
I'm willing to be proved wrong, but Duane should not be counted on as a point in the NBE. He'll be a freshman, and there's a big jump for him. I'm hoping he'll have a great MU career, but Derrick will get the starts and the minutes. Duane will get some minutes, and develop.
Title: Re: Next Year
Post by: Blackhat on March 30, 2013, 06:11:23 PM
Crean usually did a good job of getting freshman guards up and running.  Buzz may have no choice.  Duane has played a lot of ball coming up.
Title: Re: Next Year
Post by: nyg on March 30, 2013, 06:23:23 PM
Derrick Wilson is a nice defender, even though at times he gets those "nick-nak" reach in calls.

But he is an offensive liability.  Today he had numerous open looks and did not shoot.  Cause he can't.

Other programs have that PG who can at least shoot and not be afraid.

Wilson has 11 points in 23 games dating back to the start of the BE schedule.  Thats .5ppg.  

This will be a huge discussion over next 8 months, so we will see.  
Title: Re: Next Year
Post by: Blackhat on March 30, 2013, 06:26:02 PM
We know we're going to have one or more transfers this off season if history holds.  May find another guard still.
Title: Re: Next Year
Post by: Hards Alumni on March 30, 2013, 06:26:47 PM
Quote from: nyg on March 30, 2013, 06:23:23 PM
Derrick Wilson is a nice defender, even though at times he gets those "nick-nak" reach in calls.

But he is an offensive liability.  Today he had numerous open looks and did not shoot.  Cause he can't.

Other programs have that PG who can at least shoot and not be afraid.

Wilson has 11 points in 23 games dating back to the start of the BE schedule.  Thats .5ppg.  

This will be a huge discussion over next 8 months, so we will see.  

All true.  I'm not sure he has ever been asked to have an offensive game though.  Athleticism can't be taught.  Shooting can.
Title: Re: Next Year
Post by: 1990Warrior on March 30, 2013, 06:28:05 PM
Quote from: Stone Cold on March 30, 2013, 06:11:23 PM
Crean usually did a good job of getting freshman guards up and running.  Buzz may have no choice.  Duane has played a lot of ball coming up.
+1 
Throw him into the fire and let him learn on the job.
Title: Re: Next Year
Post by: nyg on March 30, 2013, 06:32:53 PM
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on March 30, 2013, 06:26:47 PM
All true.  I'm not sure he has ever been asked to have an offensive game though.  Athleticism can't be taught.  Shooting can.

Well he better get a good shooting coach, because the one he has been using for two years has not worked out. Time running out.

In those last 23 games he is 3 for 28 from the field.  11%. 
Title: Re: Next Year
Post by: Sunbelt15 on March 30, 2013, 06:37:21 PM
Quote from: Stone Cold on March 30, 2013, 06:26:02 PM
We know we're going to have one or more transfers this off season if history holds.  May find another guard still.

We don't need more guards. We need more bigs, 6'11" or taller.
Title: Re: Next Year
Post by: Blackhat on March 30, 2013, 06:39:35 PM
Quote from: Sunbelt15 on March 30, 2013, 06:37:21 PM
We don't need more guards. We need more bigs, 6'11" or taller.

Gonna be hard to find this late in the game.  Probably better luck finding a guard who can shoot ala DJO a late recruiting season special. 
Title: Re: Next Year
Post by: Otule's Glass Eye on March 30, 2013, 06:46:00 PM
Quote from: Stone Cold on March 30, 2013, 06:39:35 PM
Gonna be hard to find this late in the game.  Probably better luck finding a guard who can shoot ala DJO a late recruiting season special. 

We already have him, Jujuan Johnson is silky smooth.
Title: Re: Who is the point guard next year?
Post by: avid1010 on March 30, 2013, 06:52:07 PM
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on March 30, 2013, 05:44:31 PM
 He has all of the athletic tools.
i don't think you could be any more wrong about that.  duane wilson is 2x the athlete derrick wilson is.  he isn't going to get derrick wilson minutes for two years.
Title: Re: Next Year
Post by: BCHoopster on March 30, 2013, 07:01:20 PM
Duane Wilson should be handed the ball, stated by Buzz, this is your team, lets go.
Title: Re: Next Year
Post by: forgetful on March 30, 2013, 07:09:12 PM
De. Wilson will start, Du. Wilson will finish.  Provided that Wilson beats out Dawson for the pg position.  I think that will be a battle in its own right.
Title: Re: Next Year
Post by: chapman on March 30, 2013, 07:18:45 PM
Quote from: nyg on March 30, 2013, 06:23:23 PM
But he is an offensive liability.  Today he had numerous open looks and did not shoot.  Cause he can't.

Also not that fond of his passing, or lack thereof.  Can't tell you how many times this season there's been an open man for a split second, he usually sees it but won't make the play and thread the needle.  I think and hope that's an area that he has the ability to improve.  Yes it'll up his turnovers, but never making a play and then touting a low turnover number on swinging the ball around is worse.
Title: Re: Next Year
Post by: Otule's Glass Eye on March 30, 2013, 07:28:20 PM
With a big run next year we should be able to lure Looney and Stone away from the blue bloods and sustain the success.
Title: Re: Next Year
Post by: MattyWarrior on March 30, 2013, 07:37:41 PM
espn already has the prospectus for MU next year up after being eliminated, must have had it ready before the game..
Title: Re: Next Year
Post by: jeffreyweee on March 30, 2013, 07:46:47 PM
Derrick Wilson will start at PG over Duane Wilson next year no question about it. He will also surprise roughly 90% of the board with how serviceable he can be. Duane MAY earn more minutes as the season goes on, but I'm not confident about that.

The only thing that MAY change that is Vander getting a shot at point, but I'm not buying that transformation either.
Title: Re: Next Year
Post by: AZWarrior on March 30, 2013, 07:50:11 PM
Quote from: jeffreyweee on March 30, 2013, 07:46:47 PM


The only thing that MAY change that is Vander getting a shot at point, but I'm not buying that transformation either.

Tony Smith became an NBA point guard after being a "2" at MU.  Why wouldn't you think  Vander could make the transition his senior year?
Title: Re: Next Year
Post by: Goose on March 30, 2013, 07:51:48 PM
I hand the keys to Duane Wilson tomorrow and not look back.
Title: Re: Next Year
Post by: Farley36 on March 30, 2013, 08:20:59 PM
I think next year this team is going to be special with a capital S.  I fully expect Otule to come back and I also believe Mayo is gone.  I feel that Duane Wilson is going to be special and will be the starting point guard.  I expect another Big East title, another push at a Final Four, and an outside shot at a national championship.  It's not often teams have such a combination of remaining talent combined with such an infusion of incoming talent.  It's going to be exciting!
Title: Re: Next Year
Post by: Otule's Glass Eye on March 30, 2013, 08:29:50 PM
Quote from: Farley36 on March 30, 2013, 08:20:59 PM
I think next year this team is going to be special with a capital S.  I fully expect Otule to come back and I also believe Mayo is gone.  I feel that Duane Wilson is going to be special and will be the starting point guard.  I expect another Big East title, another push at a Final Four, and an outside shot at a national championship.  It's not often teams have such a combination of remaining talent combined with such an infusion of incoming talent.  It's going to be exciting!

Agreed. I personally feel we did so well in this tourney because the field seems a bit weak this year, not trying to take away from our run though. Next year should look more like last year when UK won. I wouldn't give a crap if Mayo isn't here next year.
Title: Re: Next Year
Post by: mr.MUskie on March 30, 2013, 08:36:50 PM
I'm cautiously optimistic about next year.  Every year we talk about the incoming freshmen and how fantastic they are, then they get here and they're... freshmen.  We're counting on these guys next year to step in and play like experienced players.  More likely than not, not going to happen.  We were also extremely lucky this year with injuries.  At the start of the season, who would have bet that Otule and Gardner would make it through the season without injuries?  Even if Chris comes back, we're in trouble if one of those guys go down.  I think next year has a chance to be special, but I could also see it being a step down from this year.
Title: Re: Next Year
Post by: Farley36 on March 30, 2013, 08:42:13 PM
Honestly I think the other thing that works in our favor next year is that the new Big East isn't going to be as good as the old Big East.  Should be easier to rack up an impressive record and win the conference. 
Title: Re: Next Year
Post by: State Street Warrior on March 30, 2013, 09:14:53 PM
Maybe it's just me, but this team just put together the longest run since we had a guy named wade in the backcourt. Let's respect and celebrate that for more than a couple hours before thinking about who runs the point next year.
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