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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: Eldon on March 29, 2013, 07:05:47 PM
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http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebasketballnation/post/_/id/82297/marquette-win-could-validate-new-big-east
WASHINGTON -- For Marquette, there is so much more at stake than a berth in the Final Four.
The Big East brand isn't on the line but a Marquette win will enhance it more than any television deal or agreement to play games at Madison Square Garden. The new Big East has had Final Four representatives in the past from Villanova, Georgetown, Marquette, St. John's, Seton Hall, Providence and Butler.
But none of those matter as much right now as this Marquette team. The Golden Eagles are the last one standing and can send a strong message to the rest of Division I that a strong basketball-centric league can survive on its own.
"It would be an enormous validation for what we believe to be our purpose in college athletics,'' said Marquette athletic director Larry Williams. "We are a group of 10 schools that focus on the development of student athletes that primarily focus on men's basketball. This is an opportunity to be in the Final Four this year and we want to do it in future years. It would be a validation of our charge."
Syracuse is off to the ACC. If Marquette were to beat the Orange Saturday at the Verizon Center, it would be a signal that this league is more than viable. The new Big East, with its television partner at Fox, can pump this up.
"An already top league would climb even higher,'' said Butler athletic director Barry Collier.
For the 10 that are venturing out, especially the seven that split from the old Big East, it would soothe any fears.
"It's a validation that we believe shows we took the right course of action,'' said Williams. "It affirms those that may have had any questions. They can say they're doing it the right way.''
Williams said he has received a number of friendly text messages from his fellow athletic directors in the new conference -- particularly pleased with the potential to add NCAA tournament units. When asked if those units would stay with the new Big East or the old, Williams declined to answer.
The game will be played on the home court of another member of the new Big East -- Georgetown. The Verizon Center, like the majority of the other members' home courts, is a big-time pro environment, providing another reason why this looks like a legitimate plan.
"Obviously there is risk here by charting our own future,'' said Williams. "But we feel some sense of responsibility for it.''
Marquette coach Buzz Williams, no relation to Larry, and the team aren't feeling any added pressure to perform based on the new league. But this will be an affirmation of basketball belonging at the adult table.
"This is an important element,'' said Larry Williams of reaching a Final Four.
The Marquette brand would benefit greatly from a Final Four appearance. So, too, would Buzz Williams, much like Tom Crean did when he took Marquette in 2003. But the biggest beneficiary will be the new Big East, which can claim it is here to play with everyone else on equal footing -- even without football.
Bold is mine. I thought that was interesting. Tell Big Dog over on the Gtown board to calm down, his welfare check is on its way
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I other words, "We got this, Georgetown"
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What is the point of agreeing to this article? This guy cannot get out of his own way. This is the dickiest article yet.
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What is the point of agreeing to this article? This guy cannot get out of his own way. This is the dickiest article yet.
Exactly. One game doesn't validate or invalidate anything.
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What is the point of agreeing to this article? This guy cannot get out of his own way. This is the dickiest article yet.
What's the point of disagreeing with it? Your post was sort of dicky
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Does he need to emphasize in the national media how big a trip to the Final Four would be? Fu*ck no! He wants his name in the media so guys like Mike Golic can say, "Hey...he played football at ND." This guy reminds me of Kenny Williams. Anything to get his name in the paper. Would Cords have done something similar in the middle of a run like this? No! Wait until afterwards. The entire article is pointless.
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No pressure though boys!!! ::)
I seriously don't understand his motive here...unless it was senseless (self) promotion.
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You guys have got to let some of this crap go. Katz found a new angle. LW gave him some quotes. I don't see a problem with any of them.
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Ill be interested in the next article about one of the other ADs. He needs to shut the F up!! Go find a women's basketball coach, douche bag
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classy.... with fans like you, go cheer for II,II
Ill be interested in the next article about one of the other ADs. He needs to shut the F up!! Go find a women's basketball coach, douche bag
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Ill be interested in the next article about one of the other ADs. He needs to shut the F up!! Go find a women's basketball coach, douche bag
Lighten up Francis. Geez, you get your panties in a bundle over LW more than any poster on this site. Give it a rest already.
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Who is kenny williams. ;D
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Who is kenny williams. ;D
Former general manager of the Chicago White Sox and now Vice President of Operations I believe.
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Larry sounded intelligent and in touch. Why can't he say the right things about buzz?
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Ill be interested in the next article about one of the other ADs. He needs to shut the F up!! Go find a women's basketball coach, douche bag
Yes. Larry Williams needs to shut the F up.... About the athletic program he leads. He is not in a position to comment.
When Andy Katz calls you for a comment I'm happy to know you'll handle it differently.
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Does he need to emphasize in the national media how big a trip to the Final Four would be? Fu*ck no! He wants his name in the media so guys like Mike Golic can say, "Hey...he played football at ND." This guy reminds me of Kenny Williams. Anything to get his name in the paper. Would Cords have done something similar in the middle of a run like this? No! Wait until afterwards. The entire article is pointless.
If LW was quoted accurately in this article, you're right, PRN, the guy is a self-serving dick and better grow up real soon.
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If LW was quoted accurately in this article, you're right, PRN, the guy is a self-serving dick and better grow up real soon.
what quote was so bad?
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I don't understand people's issue with him at all. This "self-serving dick" or DOMER, just rescued Marquette from Conference USA 2.0. I don't care what he says to Andy Katz.
Get a freaking grip.
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I don't understand people's issue with him at all. This "self-serving dick" or DOMER, just rescued Marquette from Conference USA 2.0. I don't care what he says to Andy Katz.
Get a freaking grip.
this
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what quote was so bad?
I'm with SixStrings - completely confused as to what about this article was self-serving.
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You guys have got to let some of this crap go. Katz found a new angle. LW gave him some quotes. I don't see a problem with any of them.
Nothing wrong at all with this article. Larry Williams could help a little old lady cross the street and some people here would complain that he didn't put his jacket over the puddle Disney prince style.
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Wow! I'm no avid Larry fan but Jesus guys. I think u read way to much into that.
I thought it was a good article speaking to the "perception" that the new big east is some inferior conference.
Let me ask u this- if they interviewed the AD from G town or 'nova would the article had more weight? Of course not. An if they did interview Gtown we'd all be possum and moanin asking "why are they interviewing an AD from a school that's eliminated!?"
Lighten up guys. U want MU in the public eye? They are.
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If LW was quoted accurately in this article, you're right, PRN, the guy is a self-serving dick and better grow up real soon.
wtf r u talking about? Jesus aged Christ guys. Your hatred of LW is so friggin beyond unreal and undeserved. Guy is promoting out favorite school/program. WTF do u want from the guy?!
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Nothing wrong at all with this article. Larry Williams could help a little old lady cross the street and some people here would complain that he didn't put his jacket over the puddle Disney prince style.
Actually it was Sir Walter Raleigh who made that move famous. But I get your point.
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wtf r u talking about? Jesus aged Christ guys. Your hatred of LW is so friggin beyond unreal and undeserved. Guy is promoting out favorite school/program. WTF do u want from the guy?!
not to mention what has the dude done that has been anything but classy and awesome for MU? W heard rumors that Buzz didn't like him for a short period of time, and he spoke to a reporter about Buzz's dance. That's it.
Lets keep that hatred focused on the real douche of the decade: Tom Crean
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Odd he lists every team with Final Four experience except Depaul.
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Respectfully, how many of you 'gentlemen' actually know or have had extended conversations with Mr. Williams? Seriously.
So now a well known national reporter does a story on the impact an MU appearance in the Final 4 can have on the new Big East and chooses to ask a few questions of the freakin' guy that is probably most responsible for its creation to which he politely gives quality answers, all furthering the Marquette cause long term.
C'mon guys.
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Espnu will preview our game here in the next few minutes
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Who is this loser. Picked su. Big surprise
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LW is the new TC.
Got it.
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There are a lot of delusional angry bitter people on here. WTF?
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There are a lot of delusional angry bitter people on here. WTF?
+1 ...and I really don't understand why. I thought LW said all the right things. A lot of folks paranoid about Buzz leaving. WE ALL WANT BUZZ TO STAY...but if he doesn't (and that will be his decision) the program will survive.
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Rooting for you guys today, good luck!
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Rooting for you guys today, good luck!
Nice graphic!
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Every message board for every team in every sport has fans that look for the negative in everything they see about their team. Just be glad you don't have to interact with these people on a regular basis in real life because they are just miserable human beings.
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I other words, "We got this, Georgetown"
+1000
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Respectfully, how many of you 'gentlemen' actually know or have had extended conversations with Mr. Williams? Seriously.
So now a well known national reporter does a story on the impact an MU appearance in the Final 4 can have on the new Big East and chooses to ask a few questions of the freakin' guy that is probably most responsible for its creation to which he politely gives quality answers, all furthering the Marquette cause long term.
C'mon guys.
YUP.
There are a lot of delusional angry bitter people on here. WTF?
DOUBLE YUP.
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Ill be interested in the next article about one of the other ADs. He needs to shut the F up!! Go find a women's basketball coach, douche bag
Easy, champ. Larry has been nothing but a positive for MU.
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.....still waiting on someone to answer the question about which quote was sooooooooo "dick-like"?
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classy.... with fans like you, go cheer for II,II
It's in his (PRNs) nature. He hates other douchebags but acts like one himself. Go figure.
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Respectfully, how many of you 'gentlemen' actually know or have had extended conversations with Mr. Williams? Seriously.
So now a well known national reporter does a story on the impact an MU appearance in the Final 4 can have on the new Big East and chooses to ask a few questions of the freakin' guy that is probably most responsible for its creation to which he politely gives quality answers, all furthering the Marquette cause long term.
C'mon guys.
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Remember, LW is evil and must be destroyed because he and Pilarz put a bit more supervision over the program. The result = SLU like basketball A trip to the Elite 8, playing for Final Four, no off court issues
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Remember, LW is evil and must be destroyed because he and Pilarz put a bit more supervision over the program. The result = SLU like basketball A trip to the Elite 8, playing for Final Four, no off court issues
Yeah, but what about the time he banned JUCOs, suspended Todd Mayo, applied new academic standards retroactively, forced multiple returning players off the team, tried to lower the program's profile and wanted MU in a small-time conference?
Er .... never mind.
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A lot of people piling on PR here but I will just say this... I can think of two different people who he was early to call out as jags when the majority disagreed. He proved to be right in those cases.
Don't know if he is right in this case (I am neutral right now as to LW) but he has been right in the past.
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A lot of people piling on PR here but I will just say this... I can think of two different people who he was early to call out as jags when the majority disagreed. He proved to be right in those cases.
Don't know if he is right in this case (I am neutral right now as to LW) but he has been right in the past.
if your policy is to call everyone a jag you will be right sometimes. He's astute like the 8th grade kid who calls everyone "gay" is astute.
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Trust me, if Buzz read this article, he feels exactly the same way I do. Where are the articles about the ADs of the other 7 teams? Who is Duke's AD? How about Syracuse? Take into consideration, too, that the guy is barely past his 90 day probationary status and he's trying to weasel his way into the team picture when we are on the cusp of the FF. This guy is a piece of work!
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Trust me, if Buzz read this article, he feels exactly the same way I do. Where are the articles about the ADs of the other 7 teams? Who is Duke's AD? How about Syracuse? Take into consideration, too, that the guy is barely past his 90 day probationary status and he's trying to weasel his way into the team picture when we are on the cusp of the FF. This guy is a piece of work!
"Everyone is stupid but me!" - PRN
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"Everyone is stupid but me!" - PRN
Not everyone.
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A lot of people piling on PR here but I will just say this... I can think of two different people who he was early to call out as jags when the majority disagreed. He proved to be right in those cases.
Don't know if he is right in this case (I am neutral right now as to LW) but he has been right in the past.
He was wrong about Buzz.
The more I think about this hiring and the more I read about the process, the more flabbergasted I become. I honestly believe it could very well go down as a colossal mistake even greater than that of the Golden Eagles fiasco of 1994.
Seriously, with Chris Lowery reported to be a “backup” choice to Williams (!), and reports that McCaffrey, Bruce Weber and Jim Les all expressed interest and with Tranghese, Cords and former players on our committee, how the HELL did we end up with Buzz Williams?
There is something wrong!
Did Tom Crean teach us nothing about appearances? Did we honestly choose a coach who chooses to shave his head bald and whose greatest professional reference is a skirt-chasing Texan named “Billy” over stealing away the Milwaukee-raised head coach of the University of Illinois?!?
Did we really offer Tony Bennett up to $2 million to be our head coach and then give him only a day to think it over before the rush to get Buzz Williams’ signature?
There is no conceivable way that all the individuals mentioned as being involved in this search could be on board with this hire.
Consider that we hired a coach that schools like Dayton, Fordham, St. Louis, St. Bonaventure, Wright St., UIC or even Loyola would not even consider and then tell me it’s a good hire. In fact, other than Marquette, I’m not sure what school would have hired this guy!
Consider that our head coach probably isn’t qualified to sit next to Bo Ryan as his assistant, much less compete with him for recruits and tell me it’s a good hire.
Consider our new head man is scheduled to fly to New Jersey to speak with Bob Hurley about the LOI one of his players signed and consider that Hurley’s housekeeper probably has more experience with players and tell me it’s a good hire.
Hurley should tell Williams to save the airfare.
Not only should Williams not have been hired, not only should he not have been on the “short list,” but he shouldn’t have been considered. As soon as he threatened to leave for Indiana, we should have said, “Bye-bye!”
Fr. Wild, our AD and everybody involved in this decision have significantly diminished our program by settling for a guy that – sadly – was seriously asked yesterday if he had to buy a new suit for the press conference.
Not only will this not work. It can’t work.
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I didn't like that LW built this up to be such an important game for the new league. If we win, he can say that. He should be focusing on what a great team/staff we have this year, what a great job they are doing, and all that boilerplate stuff. After the season (say in a little over a week) he can say how our play helped validate the new league.
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He was wrong about Buzz.
I believe the technical term for that is: "Pwnd"
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Trust me, if Buzz read this article, he feels exactly the same way I do. Where are the articles about the ADs of the other 7 teams? Who is Duke's AD? How about Syracuse? Take into consideration, too, that the guy is barely past his 90 day probationary status and he's trying to weasel his way into the team picture when we are on the cusp of the FF. This guy is a piece of work!
We're in SLU mode.
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Trust me, if Buzz read this article, he feels exactly the same way I do. Where are the articles about the ADs of the other 7 teams? Who is Duke's AD? How about Syracuse? Take into consideration, too, that the guy is barely past his 90 day probationary status and he's trying to weasel his way into the team picture when we are on the cusp of the FF. This guy is a piece of work!
Were any of those ADs instrumental in creating a new conference in the past 4 weeks?
No.
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Were any of those ADs instrumental in creating a new conference in the past 4 weeks?
No.
EXACTLY
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What is the point of agreeing to this article? This guy cannot get out of his own way. This is the dickiest article yet.
The Dickiest? Classic! ;D
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Trust me, if Buzz read this article, he feels exactly the same way I do.
Trust me, you have no clue how Buzz feels.
That's some Tom Crean level self-aggrandizement right there.
Good call on Buzz's hiring, though.
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I didn't like that LW built this up to be such an important game for the new league. If we win, he can say that. He should be focusing on what a great team/staff we have this year, what a great job they are doing, and all that boilerplate stuff. After the season (say in a little over a week) he can say how our play helped validate the new league.
Nailed it.
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Rooting for you guys today, good luck!
Kerry Kittles over Paul Arizin?
I don't know about that...