National perception tends to think so?
I am starting to think that if you are not a large state school and you are not; Duke B-ball you are automatically written off as a mid major. The folks on the Gopher board seem to think that the job would be a huge step up for both Buzz and Jay Wright.
Quote from: KenoshaWarrior on March 26, 2013, 02:13:15 PM
National perception tends to think so?
I am starting to think that if you are not a large state school and you are not; Duke B-ball you are automatically written off as a mid major. The folks on the Gopher board seem to think that the job would be a huge step up for both Buzz and Jay Wright.
Clearly, that arctic chill has frozen their brains. No, Minnesota is not a better job. But it's sweet that they love their school and think so.
Hahahaha. Should that be in teal? Buzz is about loyalty, which MN has non. They just gave Tubby an extension in the offseason, he brought them to the round of 32, and they canned him. He made that program relevant again and they canned him. No, MN is not a step up. All schools think they are a step up from MU, but not many are.
no
No. It's what? The 8th or 9th best job in its own conference?
Seriously, they play in a barn and have no practice facility like the Al, no basketball tradition for about 40 years, nice campus though
Crap. We're going to have Gopher17, Gopher18, and Gopher20 all over this board in a matter of days.
But that elevated floor is really cool. ::)
Quote from: Aughnanure on March 26, 2013, 02:17:07 PM
No. It's what? The 8th or 9th best job in its own conference?
They say over at Gopherhole that any Big ten job is better than any job regardless.
Quote from: KenoshaWarrior on March 26, 2013, 02:23:30 PM
They say over at Gopherhole that any Big ten job is better than any job regardless.
Buzz to Northwestern?
As a part-time Gophers fan that's lived in Minnesota for decades...... absolutely not. They'll get a coach, and probably a good one, but the fans and pundits looking at Brad Stevens and Buzz are off their rockers. I can't speak to the "national perception" -- which is about the most vague thing I've ever heard -- but "reality" is that the Marquette job is better in every measurable way: recent success, recruiting, facilities, compensation, etc.
...and, we should end it on that note.
I guess that whenever I read the ESPN message boards they are always refering to the basketball only teams that are not state schools as mid major. Im afraid that the nation thinks the new big east is Mid Major.
Quote from: KenoshaWarrior on March 26, 2013, 02:13:15 PM
National perception tends to think so?
I am starting to think that if you are not a large state school and you are not; Duke B-ball you are automatically written off as a mid major. The folks on the Gopher board seem to think that the job would be a huge step up for both Buzz and Jay Wright.
The folks on the Gopher board are delusional. Minnesota regionally recruits in a mediocre area for talent and just fired a hall of fame coach for making the round of 32. Indiana, Michigan, Michigan St, Ohio St, Indiana, Illinois, Wisconsin, Purdue and Maryland are better programs. Iowa is their equal. The only time they've had any real success in a long time the wins were vacated due to cheating.
Quote from: KenoshaWarrior on March 26, 2013, 02:23:30 PM
They say over at Gopherhole that any Big ten job is better than any job regardless.
Which is stupid and wrong.
Quote from: KenoshaWarrior on March 26, 2013, 02:23:30 PM
They say over at Gopherhole that any Big ten job is better than any job regardless.
If that were the case, Northwestern wouldn't have to settle for Chris Collins...and Nebraska and Penn State would have made significantly better hires.
Just being in the Big Ten doesn't make the job better. Conference affiliation isn't the be all and end all in college basketball. I mean, Josh Pastner just signed and extension with Memphis today instead of taking the USC job.
Programs matter. And conference affiliation is part of what makes a program, but it isn't anything close to what they are saying.
Quote from: KenoshaWarrior on March 26, 2013, 02:27:17 PM
I guess that whenever I read the ESPN message boards they are always refering to the basketball only teams that are not state schools as mid major. Im afraid that the nation thinks the new big east is Mid Major.
I honestly don't know how you leave the house every day with all of your concerns and worries.
Quote from: Bocephys on March 26, 2013, 02:28:38 PM
I honestly don't know how you leave the house every day with all of your concerns and worries.
This.
Gopherhole is a mid-major message board. MUScoop would be a huge step up for the boys at Gopherhole.
Quote from: Bocephys on March 26, 2013, 02:28:38 PM
I honestly don't know how you leave the house every day with all of your concerns and worries.
Bingo.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on March 26, 2013, 02:28:27 PM
If that were the case, Northwestern wouldn't have to settle for Chris Collins...and Nebraska and Penn State would have made significantly better hires.
Just being in the Big Ten doesn't make the job better. Conference affiliation isn't the be all and end all in college basketball. I mean, Josh Pastner just signed and extension with Memphis today instead of taking the USC job.
Programs matter. And conference affiliation is part of what makes a program, but it isn't anything close to what they are saying.
But what else can they hang their hats on??? Conference affiliation is all they have. Their football and basketball programs have never been relevant.
Quote from: KenoshaWarrior on March 26, 2013, 02:27:17 PM
I guess that whenever I read the ESPN message boards they are always refering to the basketball only teams that are not state schools as mid major. Im afraid that the nation thinks the new big east is Mid Major.
The ESPN message boards are full of slack-jawed, booger eatin' morons.
Quote from: BRMU23 on March 26, 2013, 02:15:45 PM
Hahahaha. Should that be in teal? Buzz is about loyalty, which MN has non. They just gave Tubby an extension in the offseason, he brought them to the round of 32, and they canned him. He made that program relevant again and they canned him. No, MN is not a step up. All schools think they are a step up from MU, but not many are.
I agree with this. Although the team didn't live up to it's pre and early season hype, I can't see how he got fired, especially after winning a game against a higher ranked opponent in the tournament.
Oh, and the MN job does have some upside if the right guy is hired. It's the only D1 school in the state, and there is some talent there.
The problem is infrastructure. If they get a new practice facility and hire the right coach, that program could be very good.
But... as it currently stands, it's not a better gig.
Quote from: Groin_pull on March 26, 2013, 02:33:37 PM
But what else can they hang their hats on??? Conference affiliation is all they have. Their football and basketball programs have never been relevant.
Their women's hockey team went 41-0 this year.
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When is the last time Minnesota made back to back to back Sweet 16s?
Debate Closed ;D
Quote from: KenoshaWarrior on March 26, 2013, 02:13:15 PM
National perception tends to think so?
This statement is one of the more ridiculous statements I've heard and you're equally ridiculous for posting such non-sense. Your "national perception" is based on what, two drunk guys from Duluth?
Honestly...what's the point of starting this thread two days before our Sweet 16 game?!?
Quote from: Warrior's Path on March 26, 2013, 02:37:58 PM
Everyone from Minnesota is weird. Fact.
Whew! Thanks for excluding me since I am not from here.
Quote from: Groin_pull on March 26, 2013, 02:33:37 PM
But what else can they hang their hats on??? Conference affiliation is all they have. Their football and basketball programs have never been relevant.
C'mon their football team has won 7 National Championships.
Oh wait.....they were in 1904, '34, '35, '36, '40, '41 and '60.
Quote from: Warrior's Path on March 26, 2013, 02:37:58 PM
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There was a girl from Minnesota that pretty much stalked me at Marquette, she was weird as crap and somehow always ended up in my core classes. Really thought I was going to get imprisoned by her in some remote campus apartment.
Quote from: PTM on March 26, 2013, 02:47:07 PM
There was a girl from Minnesota that pretty much stalked me at Marquette, she was weird as crap and somehow always ended up in my core classes. Really thought I was going to get imprisoned by her in some remote campus apartment.
Was she hot???
Quote from: PTM on March 26, 2013, 02:47:07 PM
There was a girl from Minnesota that pretty much stalked me at Marquette, she was weird as crap and somehow always ended up in my core classes. Really thought I was going to get imprisoned by her in some remote campus apartment.
As long as you don't kill off Misery, you'll be fine.
Quote from: KenoshaWarrior on March 26, 2013, 02:23:30 PM
They say over at Gopherhole that any Big ten job is better than any job regardless.
If you're leaning on your conference affiliation as a selling point to attract a coach, it speaks volumes about everything else your program has going for it.
Minnesota ??? when I stop laughing I will think about this....naw probably not
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on March 26, 2013, 02:49:24 PM
Was she hot???
Sultan, be intelligent, if she was hot it wouldn't be "stalking" it would be "I nailed this chick who was a little off"
;D
Quote from: PTM on March 26, 2013, 02:47:07 PM
There was a girl from Minnesota that pretty much stalked me at Marquette, she was weird as crap and somehow always ended up in my core classes. Really thought I was going to get imprisoned by her in some remote campus apartment.
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The Gophers had a good run from 1993-94 to 98-99 with four NCAA tourney appearances and a Final Four run but those records were officially vacated because of an academic cheating scandal under coach Clem Haskins. Throw out those tainted years, and the Gophers have made the tourney eight times in their history.
Atlanta article mocking their program.
http://www.ajc.com/weblogs/the-hater/2013/mar/25/minnesota-gophers-bless-their-hearts-think-they-ca/
The only job of the ones currently open that is "better" than MU is UCLA and even that you could make an argument that in it's current state UCLA is not.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on March 26, 2013, 02:49:24 PM
Was she hot???
No, improved with time though. By graduation she went from a 3 to a 7.
Quote from: Pakuni on March 26, 2013, 02:50:21 PM
As long as you don't kill off Misery, you'll be fine.
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Quote from: mu03eng on March 26, 2013, 02:55:00 PM
Sultan, be intelligent, if she was hot it wouldn't be "stalking" it would be "I nailed this chick who was a little off"
;D
Correct.
Quote from: Blue Horseshoe on March 26, 2013, 02:57:56 PM
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I've been listening to MN sports radio. Callers have Flip Saunders, Buzz Williams, Shaka Smart, and Brad Stevens on their "short list". It's pretty funny.
Facilities might be lacking but I really like the barn, it's a unique venue. Minnesota wants a big name because the high school class of 2014 is loaded with talent.
I lived in Wisconsin for 6.5 years, followed by Minnesota for 9.5 years, followed by Illinois for 16 years. I was a very close observer of college sports in all three places.
The men's head basketball coaching job at Marquette is better in every way to the same position at any of those state's flagship universities.
The Illinois job is the best of the three and Buzz didn't even blink at it last year. Hell, Crean didn't give it serious thought a few years earlier, and many believe he was looking for an excuse to leave MU.
Minnesota's job is the third best of the three.
So if neither Buzz nor Crean had real interest in Illinois, why would anybody think Buzz would consider Minnesota?
Some "experts" are downright dopey.
I will never fault a program for reaching for the stars. Doubt their wish list comes true, but beats the hell out of stealing Mike Deane from Sienna based off recommendation from disgruntled former employee. Any time a program tries to "steal" someone higher up I respect that. Now, if Buzz goes there I would say he was CRAZY.
Kenosha,
On those same ESPN boards, i saw a poster who said something similar to this, "Syracuse is my team, i can't wait until they beat Indiana IN the Elite 8"
My advice, stay away from ESPN message boards, nothing of any value comes from "those people"
Another reason Buzz shouldn't leave for Minnesota or just about anywhere else ... he's the 7th highest paid coach in the Sweet 16, according to this, better compensated than Crean, Boeheim and Beilein, among others.
http://www.bizjournals.com/milwaukee/blog/2013/03/countdown-highest-paid-coaches-in.html?ana=RSS&s=article_search&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+bizj_milwaukee+%28Milwaukee+Business+Journal%29
Quote from: Pakuni on March 26, 2013, 03:25:59 PM
Another reason Buzz shouldn't leave for Minnesota or just about anywhere else ... he's the 7th highest paid coach in the Sweet 16, according to this, better compensated than Crean, Boeheim and Beilein, among others.
http://www.bizjournals.com/milwaukee/blog/2013/03/countdown-highest-paid-coaches-in.html?ana=RSS&s=article_search&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+bizj_milwaukee+%28Milwaukee+Business+Journal%29
Slick Rick is one handsome man eh?
Grease Lightning!
Quote from: Warrior's Path on March 26, 2013, 02:37:58 PM
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what he said
Tim Brando on his radio show rip Minnesota a new one. Buildings are terrible. Have to wait to pratice because the women have the floor. It's sounds like UWM.
Unless Buzz wants to coach hockey for the Gophers or 1 of the other 4 D1 programs in the state, I haven't a slightest worry.
http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/sports/2013/03/19/Jim_Foster_is_fired.html
Look... Ohio State just fired their women's coach.
Cue the "OMG OMG OMG OMG, is Ohio State WBB a better job?!?!?!?" chicken littles in 3.... 2.... 1....
All hires for all sporting jobs in Minnesota must be approved by Sid Hartman, he says so.
(Sid is the 90 year old sportswriter at the Star Tribune who has gone from being an institution to should be institutionalized)
Quote from: Guns n Ammo on March 26, 2013, 02:36:16 PM
Oh, and the MN job does have some upside if the right guy is hired. It's the only D1 school in the state, and there is some talent there.
The problem is infrastructure. If they get a new practice facility and hire the right coach, that program could be very good.
But... as it currently stands, it's not a better gig.
Exactly--a lot of MN talent leaves that state every year. There will come a day when the right coach gets them to stay and they will win. Until then, hello Frozen Four.
Quote from: Guns n Ammo on March 26, 2013, 02:36:16 PM
Oh, and the MN job does have some upside if the right guy is hired. It's the only D1 school in the state, and there is some talent there.
The problem is infrastructure. If they get a new practice facility and hire the right coach, that program could be very good.
But... as it currently stands, it's not a better gig.
With the stranglehold he has on in-state, Nordic basketball talent, Bo Ryan could create a dynasty at MN-Minneapolis.
Quote from: Badgerhater on March 26, 2013, 03:38:01 PM
All hires for all sporting jobs in Minnesota must be approved by Sid Hartman, he says so.
(Sid is the 90 year old sportswriter at the Star Tribune who has gone from being an institution to should be institutionalized)
Sid is 93 with many "close personal friends". He has been a total jackass since I have lived here.
Quote from: Benny B on March 26, 2013, 03:42:08 PM
With the stranglehold he has on in-state, Nordic basketball talent, Bo Ryan could create a dynasty at U of M-Twin Cities.
FIFY.
Quote from: SaintPaulWarrior on March 26, 2013, 03:43:12 PM
Sid is 93 with many "close personal friends". He has been a total jackass since I have lived here.
Pat Reusse isn't much better, but I have to defend him since we are from the same town.
Quote from: Badgerhater on March 26, 2013, 03:46:56 PM
Pat Reusse isn't much better, but I have to defend him since we are from the same town.
He is not as much fun since he gave up booze.
Local media is saying Shaka Smart is front runner because their new AD, Norwood Teague (hired a year ago), hired Shaka when he was at VCU. Buzz is listed as an intriguing alternate.
I really hope they are wrong (about Shaka - Buzz wouldn't return the VM) Gets tiring listening to the holier than most attitude from their fans and media.
Quote from: SaintPaulWarrior on March 26, 2013, 03:53:12 PM
He is not as much fun since he gave up booze.
I can live with Reusse.
Sid was an absolute bafoon this morning on the radio. Said that MN should hire Smart so the non traditional community wouldn't be upset about no nontraditional coaches at u of m.
Can you imagine if MU suggested a nickname as stupid as the golden gophers when the change was made?
Quote from: real chili 83 on March 26, 2013, 04:01:58 PM
Can you imagine if MU suggested a nickname as stupid as the golden gophers when the change was made?
Yeah I hear ya....golden eagles is much mo' betta
Quote from: BlindboyPatSmith on March 26, 2013, 04:48:36 PM
Yeah I hear ya....golden eagles is much mo' betta
"This carnivorous bird will feed on mainly small animals especially mountain hare. The golden eagle's diet also consists of young fox, mink, lizards, snakes, and game birds. The golden eagle catches most of it's food on the ground from the air, by swooping down with it's talon's, reaching speeds up to 95 miles per hour on one dive. After a successful hunt, the golden eagle rips apart it's prey into mangled pieces by using huge talons with thick curved claws for grip. If the eagle has young in its' nest, then it will bring back half of the prey to the nest to feed its young."
You know what... I'm going with the eagle being astronomically better than the gopher.
Quote from: Schmidtyfactor on March 26, 2013, 03:59:08 PM
Local media is saying Shaka Smart is front runner because their new AD, Norwood Teague (hired a year ago), hired Shaka when he was at VCU. Buzz is listed as an intriguing alternate.
I really hope they are wrong (about Shaka - Buzz wouldn't return the VM) Gets tiring listening to the holier than most attitude from their fans and media.
Hmmmmmmmm. UCLA or Minnesota? Let me think about that.
Quote from: MerrittsMustache on March 26, 2013, 02:24:37 PM
Buzz to Northwestern?
Sounds like the Northwestern job is Chris Collins's job to lose. That would be a solid hire for NW.
Quote from: Schmidtyfactor on March 26, 2013, 03:59:08 PM
Gets tiring listening to the holier than most attitude from their fans and media.
According to the Minny board, not only is their school better, but...
Minneapolis is much better city than Milwaukee...people forget about this aspect. If I think about MY life and career, I would take a substantially less attractive offer in Minneapolis than anywhere in the South simply based on quality of life. I'm not arguing which job is "better" or if he'll come here, but maybe he values WHERE he'll live for the foreseeable future. Seattle and Portland are about the only two cities I'd ever leave Minneapolis for.
Quote from: Avenue Commons on March 26, 2013, 06:10:23 PM
Sounds like the Northwestern job is Chris Collins's job to lose. That would be a solid hire for NW.
More like Chris Collins' job to reject.
He's not going to lose it. It's his if he wants it.
Quote from: Avenue Commons on March 26, 2013, 06:10:23 PM
Sounds like the Northwestern job is Chris Collins's job to lose. That would be a solid hire for NW.
Quote from: Pakuni on March 26, 2013, 06:19:14 PM
More like Chris Collins' job to reject.
He's not going to lose it. It's his if he wants it.
Reporting on CSN Chicago that it will be announced in the next 24-36 hours. He also grew up not far away.
If his dream is to get the Texas job, why would he put that in jeopardy by starting over at an inferior program at the bottom rung of arguably the best basketball conference. Its quite a risk.
Quote from: Aughnanure on March 26, 2013, 06:45:02 PM
If his dream is to get the Texas job, why would he put that in jeopardy by starting over at an inferior program at the bottom rung of arguably the best basketball conference. Its quite a risk.
He wouldn't. That's why this is so silly.
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Minnesota fans are like most in the Big 10. They have absolutely no grasp of reality. To hear them talk, you'd think Minnesota was a hoops powerhouse with an arena (sorry, barn) full of championship banners.
It would be amusing, if it weren't so pathetic.
Hockey rules in MN.
Ummmm.....if Trent Lockett avoided u of MN like the plague.....why is this a destination job?
Quote from: Groin_pull on March 26, 2013, 06:51:53 PM
Minnesota fans are like most in the Big 10. They have absolutely no grasp of reality. To hear them talk, you'd think Minnesota was a hoops powerhouse with an arena (sorry, barn) full of championship banners.
It would be amusing, if it weren't so pathetic.
Actually living here their fans are hilariously pathetic. They are loyal but everyone is a Minnesota fan but a lot are very delusional of their place in some sports, hockey aside.
Quote from: real chili 83 on March 26, 2013, 06:59:39 PM
Ummmm.....if Trent Lockett avoided u of MN like the plague.....why is this a destination job?
trevor left mu for MN...why wouldn't buzz :-) wonder if buzz will spend a year playing around in FL first though.
when i'm in minneapolis in winter i always make sure i'm in a hotel connected to their skywalk...in summer, i really enjoy walking around the city. much more so than milwaukee, but the mn job is a step down from mu.
I am still waiting for someone in the MN media to explain how the Gophers are going to pay Buzz's buyout and pay him what MU pays him. I don't see any way that the Gophers will be willing to spend the kind of money it will take to get Buzz. Not going to happen.
Quote from: MarqKarp on March 26, 2013, 07:04:31 PM
I am still waiting for someone in the MN media to explain how the Gophers are going to pay Buzz's buyout and pay him what MU pays him. I don't see any way that the Gophers will be willing to spend the kind of money it will take to get Buzz. Not going to happen.
Do they even pay the FB coach that much?
Quote from: MarqKarp on March 26, 2013, 07:04:31 PM
I am still waiting for someone in the MN media to explain how the Gophers are going to pay Buzz's buyout and pay him what MU pays him. I don't see any way that the Gophers will be willing to spend the kind of money it will take to get Buzz. Not going to happen.
@GopherHole legend Lou Nanne tells KFAN that U basketball fundraising dried up but indications are that big money donors to step w/ new HC
Quote from: Hamostradamus on March 26, 2013, 07:06:09 PM
@GopherHole legend Lou Nanne tells KFAN that U basketball fundraising dried up but indications are that big money donors to step w/ new HC
Keep dreaming, Gophers. Must be nice to be irrelevant in not one—but two—sports.
Quote from: Hamostradamus on March 26, 2013, 07:06:09 PM
@GopherHole legend Lou Nanne tells KFAN that U basketball fundraising dried up but indications are that big money donors to step w/ new HC
I could be wrong, but I would be shocked if Minnesota hired anyone in Buzz's price range.
Quote from: MarqKarp on March 26, 2013, 07:04:31 PM
I am still waiting for someone in the MN media to explain how the Gophers are going to pay Buzz's buyout and pay him what MU pays him. I don't see any way that the Gophers will be willing to spend the kind of money it will take to get Buzz. Not going to happen.
Tubby buyout 3.3mill, they had to buyout Glen Mason, had to buyout Trestman and they would have to pay Buzz's buyout before getting to his salary.
Quote from: SaintPaulWarrior on March 26, 2013, 07:16:07 PM
Tubby buyout 3.3mill, they had to buyout Glen Mason, had to buyout Trestman and they would have to pay Buzz's buyout before getting to his salary.
That's why this a complete fantasy. Ain't happening. Sorry Gophers.
I think MU job blows MN out of the water, but at one point MU was not at high watermark. The hiring of KO was done by donors that decided it as time for MU to move in right direction. I will never underestimate big donors and what they can do. Every school has big donors.
Minnesota is a middling Big Ten basketball program with subpar facilities, brutal winters and an average tradition. The Gophers have produced two winning seasons in conference play since making the Final Four in 1997. Please explain the allure of the job. No coach is going from an ideal situation to that disheveled mess. It's going to be tough for Minnesota to sell a top rate coach when it can't even convince it's best high school players to stay home!
Quote from: bradforster on March 26, 2013, 07:24:29 PM
Minnesota is a middling Big Ten basketball program with subpar facilities, brutal winters
Everyone get off the winter and brutal cold high horse. It is very naïve. I grew up in the inner city of Chicago, went to Marquette and now live here. Believe me there is not much of a difference between Lake Michigan winters/wind and St. Paul winters. I actually love winter.
SaintPaulWarrior
I agree with you on the negative winter talk. Plus some guy might hit the lottery if donors pony up. Enough money makes anywhere a great place to live. I doubt that guy is Buzz, but cannot bash the school for trying.
Quote from: Goose on March 26, 2013, 07:33:45 PM
SaintPaulWarrior
I agree with you on the negative winter talk. Plus some guy might hit the lottery if donors pony up. Enough money makes anywhere a great place to live. I doubt that guy is Buzz, but cannot bash the school for trying.
The U does have some heavy, heavy donors but in the past they have been focused on football. I think it will be changing with this hire for basketball.
SaintPaulWarrior
Much easier to build a basketball team than a football team. Probably a wise move on donors part to move in that direction. This year proved a lot of the 64 teams in NCAA can go to FF. MN is way beyond the eight ball in being competitive in football. They are a great hire away from being a force in basketball vs. no chance in football short term.
Don't underestimate Jerry Kill. He does have seizures on the sidelines, during press conferences and after the game but he is a very good coach everywhere he has been.
The twin cities are a great place to live. I can be at 3m's hq in 7 minutes, the state capital in 12 minutes, or on the St. Croix national scenic waterway in 8 minutes. By car, I can be at the confluence of the Mississippi and St. Croix in 20 minutes. Good fishing in Prescott!
Milwaukee is an equally good town. Could move there in a heartbeat.
All of that said, u of MN has a lot of donor money. MU has that too. MU has much more character, and a very, very, rich tradition. Our fan/alum base is much, much more passionate than anything u of MN can offer.
Finally, there is no Real Chili in MN. Case closed.
This whole concept of MN fans thinking they have a chance at Buzz is as adorable as their mascot.
Quote from: SaintPaulWarrior on March 26, 2013, 07:44:30 PM
Don't underestimate Jerry Kill. He does have seizures on the sidelines, during press conferences and after the game but he is a very good coach everywhere he has been.
The health issues will eventually rub enough people the wrong way and he'll be out.
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As for compensation, you must understand that Tubby's compensation package was extraordinarily generous for a coach who hadn't done jack on the court and whose programs had other issues off the court.
Paying another coach a nice amount won't be a problem.
However, the lack of a practice facility is an issue and for someone like Buzz they'd need to dramatically change the support given to the program. Buzz has it pretty good with his travel situation at MU.
There is no reasonable comparison that can be made which puts Minnesota ahead of Marquette in terms of their basketball programs. It's not close.
Take it as flattery that so many people think as highly of Buzz as they do... and that they run with nonsense ideas/rumors.
Quote from: SaintPaulWarrior on March 26, 2013, 07:44:30 PM
Don't underestimate Jerry Kill. He does have seizures on the sidelines, during press conferences and after the game but he is a very good coach everywhere he has been.
My guess is that he's gone the season after next. His recruiting is crap and his innovative little offense isn't going to work in the Big Ten.
Quote from: real chili 83 on March 26, 2013, 07:50:38 PM
I can be at 3m's hq in 7 minutes
Well, I'm fracking sold.
Quote from: real chili 83 on March 26, 2013, 07:50:38 PM
The twin cities are a great place to live. I can be at 3m's hq in 7 minutes, the state capital in 12 minutes, or on the St. Croix national scenic waterway in 8 minutes. By car, I can be at the confluence of the Mississippi and St. Croix in 20 minutes. Good fishing in Prescott!
Milwaukee is an equally good town. Could move there in a heartbeat.
All of that said, u of MN has a lot of donor money. MU has that too. MU has much more character, and a very, very, rich tradition. Our fan/alum base is much, much more passionate than anything u of MN can offer.
Finally, there is no Real Chili in MN. Case closed.
You live in Woodbury I assume?
Quote from: mr.MUskie on March 26, 2013, 06:14:49 PM
Minneapolis is much better city than Milwaukee...people forget about this aspect. If I think about MY life and career, I would take a substantially less attractive offer in Minneapolis than anywhere in the South simply based on quality of life. I'm not arguing which job is "better" or if he'll come here, but maybe he values WHERE he'll live for the foreseeable future. Seattle and Portland are about the only two cities I'd ever leave Minneapolis for.
This is very subjective. I left Minneapolis, a city I liked very much, for Chicago, a city I loved. Maybe you like Minny more. Others like Austin, TX more than Minny or Chicago. Others like San Fran more than all of them. Others like Seattle most. Others love Boston.
Unless you have some kind of inside knowledge what Buzz actually likes best, it's a meaningless statement.