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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: Dunk The Ball Eric on March 26, 2013, 12:36:38 PM

Title: Chad Ford's Top 100 Update - Dekker/Blue
Post by: Dunk The Ball Eric on March 26, 2013, 12:36:38 PM
Sam Dekker comes in at #76. Here's what he had to say.

"Mar 20 Update: But the real prize is Dekker. He's not ready yet, but his versatility and size draw comparisons to a young Gordon Hayward. Next year, he could be a potential first-round pick."

Here is what he had to say on Blue who was #79 overall.

"Mar 26 Update: Blue has also been on our radar screen since his freshman season. In fact, despite struggling as both a freshman and sophomore, he has never fallen out of our Top 100. He has been a revelation during his junior season for Marquette and had one of the strongest performances of anyone this weekend against both Davidson and Butler. Blue hit the game-winning shot against Davidson and then exploded for 29 points and four steals against Butler. Nineteen of those points came in the second half as Blue rallied the Golden Eagles for another come-from-behind win.

His elite athletic ability, his defensive toughness and his leadership have all caught NBA scouts' eyes. If he shot it a little better, or was a little taller, he'd get a serious look in the lottery. However, don't count him out of the first-round conversation yet. Another great weekend might convince scouts he's the type of guy, like fellow Golden Eagles Jimmy Butler and Wesley Matthews before him, who can fight his way onto an NBA roster and stick."

I know a lot of people question whether or not Vander is an NBA player. He is clearly on radar's, I don't think anyone can dispute that and it only takes 1 team to think he is worth a shot. Hopefully he can find the right fit like Wes, Jimmy, and Jae and we can keep the MU pipeline going.
Title: Re: Chad Ford's Top 100 Update - Dekker/Blue
Post by: Groin_pull on March 26, 2013, 12:43:54 PM
I couldn't care less about Dekker, so moving on to Vander...

It's simple. Have a great senior season...keep working on the jumper...get drafted by an NBA team.
Title: Re: Chad Ford's Top 100 Update - Dekker/Blue
Post by: Goose on March 26, 2013, 12:44:34 PM
Lets hope that Blue takes it to the next level this weekend. If his days are numbered at MU I hope he goes out in style. Kid has been on a mission from day one and odds are high it will continue.
Title: Re: Chad Ford's Top 100 Update - Dekker/Blue
Post by: Marq on March 26, 2013, 02:01:22 PM
Does anyone know if Vander can palm a basketball? I dont think he can. That will hurt him when he gets to the NBA.
Title: Re: Chad Ford's Top 100 Update - Dekker/Blue
Post by: Silkk the Shaka on March 26, 2013, 02:07:16 PM
Quote from: Marq on March 26, 2013, 02:01:22 PM
Does anyone know if Vander can palm a basketball? I dont think he can. That will hurt him when he gets to the NBA.

Can't tell if serious - I have no actual knowledge on way or the other, but I'd place the probability that Vander Blue can palm a basketball somewhere between 99% & 99.9%.
Title: Re: Chad Ford's Top 100 Update - Dekker/Blue
Post by: RJax55 on March 26, 2013, 02:13:39 PM
Quote from: Marq on March 26, 2013, 02:01:22 PM
Does anyone know if Vander can palm a basketball?

Here's the answer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hGilSI2SC4
Title: Re: Chad Ford's Top 100 Update - Dekker/Blue
Post by: Goose on March 26, 2013, 02:18:00 PM
Vander's biggest problem down the road might be how big of wad of C-notes he can palm.
Title: Re: Chad Ford's Top 100 Update - Dekker/Blue
Post by: Marq on March 26, 2013, 02:23:08 PM
Quote from: RJax55 on March 26, 2013, 02:13:39 PM
Here's the answer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hGilSI2SC4


Not saying he cant, but he's not palming the ball there buddy. He takes it up like hes going for a lay up and then rotates his wrist to dunk the ball.
Title: Re: Chad Ford's Top 100 Update - Dekker/Blue
Post by: MerrittsMustache on March 26, 2013, 02:32:22 PM
Quote from: Marq on March 26, 2013, 02:01:22 PM
Does anyone know if Vander can palm a basketball? I dont think he can. That will hurt him when he gets to the NBA.

In what way would that hurt him when he gets to the NBA?

Title: Re: Chad Ford's Top 100 Update - Dekker/Blue
Post by: RJax55 on March 26, 2013, 02:39:44 PM
Quote from: Marq on March 26, 2013, 02:23:08 PM
Not saying he cant, but he's not palming the ball there buddy. He takes it up like hes going for a lay up and then rotates his wrist to dunk the ball.

Ok... Would this be considered palming? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7cYF3K8xj4
Title: Re: Chad Ford's Top 100 Update - Dekker/Blue
Post by: setyoursightsnorth on March 26, 2013, 02:41:14 PM
Quote from: Marq on March 26, 2013, 02:01:22 PM
Does anyone know if Vander can palm a basketball? I dont think he can. That will hurt him when he gets to the NBA.

Our posters that we got at the start of the season show him holding a basketball at full arms length, palming it. So unless that was photoshopped, he can palm it.
Title: Re: Chad Ford's Top 100 Update - Dekker/Blue
Post by: akmarq on March 26, 2013, 02:43:27 PM
I bet all the UCLA players can palm the ball.

Time to panic.
Title: Thread hijack
Post by: mugrad99 on March 26, 2013, 02:51:19 PM
Quote from: RJax55 on March 26, 2013, 02:39:44 PM
Ok... Would this be considered palming? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7cYF3K8xj4

Looking at that youtube video, a better one popped up on the right...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-vTE0_BnrQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-vTE0_BnrQ)
Title: Re: Chad Ford's Top 100 Update - Dekker/Blue
Post by: grzy6 on March 26, 2013, 04:16:52 PM
Quote from: akmarq on March 26, 2013, 02:43:27 PM
I bet all the UCLA players can palm the ball.

Time to panic.

+1
Title: Re: Chad Ford's Top 100 Update - Dekker/Blue
Post by: GoldenZebra on March 26, 2013, 04:21:54 PM
Quote from: Marq on March 26, 2013, 02:23:08 PM
Not saying he cant, but he's not palming the ball there buddy. He takes it up like hes going for a lay up and then rotates his wrist to dunk the ball.

Are you a tool?
Title: Re: Chad Ford's Top 100 Update - Dekker/Blue
Post by: Mutaman on March 26, 2013, 04:25:50 PM
Quote from: Goose on March 26, 2013, 12:44:34 PM
If his days are numbered at MU I hope he goes out in style.


How likely is this to happen? Hadn't even considered it.
Title: Re: Chad Ford's Top 100 Update - Dekker/Blue
Post by: MerrittsMustache on March 26, 2013, 04:40:09 PM
Quote from: Mutaman on March 26, 2013, 04:25:50 PM

How likely is this to happen? Hadn't even considered it.

If he plays the next two games like the last two and MU goes to the Final Four, he should go. For better or worse, his stock wouldn't get much higher.
Title: Re: Chad Ford's Top 100 Update - Dekker/Blue
Post by: bilsu on March 26, 2013, 04:49:06 PM
Quote from: MerrittsMustache on March 26, 2013, 04:40:09 PM
If he plays the next two games like the last two and MU goes to the Final Four, he should go. For better or worse, his stock wouldn't get much higher.


It does not matter, if his stock will get any higher. It matters on whether he be drafted in the first round and hopefully he gets an honest answer on that possibility. You hate to see him go, if some team that tells him they will pick him and decides to picks someone else resulting in Blue dropping out of first round. He has a chance to be an American next year, if he comes back.
Title: Re: Chad Ford's Top 100 Update - Dekker/Blue
Post by: Earl Tatum on March 26, 2013, 04:54:28 PM
Hey Marq: I bleed MU, but I would take Dekker any day on our team with Blue.
Title: Re: Chad Ford's Top 100 Update - Dekker/Blue
Post by: Earl Tatum on March 26, 2013, 04:56:52 PM
I'm Sorry Marq--- Groin Pull is the one who doesn't care for Dekker.
Title: Re: Chad Ford's Top 100 Update - Dekker/Blue
Post by: barfolomew on March 26, 2013, 04:57:45 PM
What I find most amazing is how riDQlous this whole thread would have seemed in November.
If he has put himself in a position where two more good games (and team W's) get him into the first round, then I say good for Vander. He will have deserved it, and we will have enjoyed another final four.
Title: Re: Chad Ford's Top 100 Update - Dekker/Blue
Post by: Groin_pull on March 26, 2013, 05:11:18 PM
Quote from: Earl Tatum on March 26, 2013, 04:56:52 PM
I'm Sorry Marq--- Groin Pull is the one who doesn't care for Dekker.

You're right. Why would I care about some UW-Madison player??? No interest in anything Becky-related.
Title: Re: Chad Ford's Top 100 Update - Dekker/Blue
Post by: Mutaman on March 26, 2013, 07:07:46 PM
Quote from: bilsu on March 26, 2013, 04:49:06 PM
It does not matter, if his stock will get any higher. It matters on whether he be drafted in the first round and hopefully he gets an honest answer on that possibility. You hate to see him go, if some team that tells him they will pick him and decides to picks someone else resulting in Blue dropping out of first round. He has a chance to be an American next year, if he comes back.

Would Buzz give him honest advice even if it wasn't in Buzz' self interest? Like Al did with Chones?
Title: Re: Chad Ford's Top 100 Update - Dekker/Blue
Post by: Goose on March 26, 2013, 07:13:42 PM
No doubt Buzz and many people will give Blue advice. He has been grooming himself for this for quite some time and I have no doubt he will get sound advice. Believe it or not, but Blue always knew he would be in this position. He came to MU to degree in basketball and he is well on his way.
Title: Re: Chad Ford's Top 100 Update - Dekker/Blue
Post by: keefe on March 26, 2013, 07:28:10 PM
Quote from: Mutaman on March 26, 2013, 07:07:46 PM
Would Buzz give him honest advice even if it wasn't in Buzz' self interest? Like Al did with Chones?

Or like Crean did with DJ? Crean cost that man millions. Millions.
Title: Re: Chad Ford's Top 100 Update - Dekker/Blue
Post by: Goose on March 26, 2013, 07:31:28 PM
Keefe


I really like seeing you amp the anti TC talk. While I have hard time bashing him, I love seeing others do so. I especially like it when Chico's jumps in with his man crush. Would love to see MU/IU game and really see the TC hate come out.
Title: Re: Chad Ford's Top 100 Update - Dekker/Blue
Post by: MUSF on March 26, 2013, 08:20:18 PM
Quote from: Marq on March 26, 2013, 02:01:22 PM
Does anyone know if Vander can palm a basketball? I dont think he can. That will hurt him when he gets to the NBA.

Wade couldn't, at least in college.
Title: Re: Chad Ford's Top 100 Update - Dekker/Blue
Post by: MerrittsMustache on March 27, 2013, 07:23:51 AM
Quote from: bilsu on March 26, 2013, 04:49:06 PM
It does not matter, if his stock will get any higher. It matters on whether he be drafted in the first round and hopefully he gets an honest answer on that possibility. You hate to see him go, if some team that tells him they will pick him and decides to picks someone else resulting in Blue dropping out of first round. He has a chance to be an American next year, if he comes back.

I guess I should have included...if he's projected to be drafted, he'd need to go, even if it's late first/early second.
Title: Re: Chad Ford's Top 100 Update - Dekker/Blue
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on March 27, 2013, 08:28:27 AM
Quote from: Goose on March 26, 2013, 07:31:28 PM
Keefe


I really like seeing you amp the anti TC talk. While I have hard time bashing him, I love seeing others do so. I especially like it when Chico's jumps in with his man crush. Would love to see MU/IU game and really see the TC hate come out.
Yes, keep encouraging him
Title: Re: Chad Ford's Top 100 Update - Dekker/Blue
Post by: Goose on March 27, 2013, 09:05:40 AM
Chico's

Was just teasing. Have said many times I appreciate what TC did here. Not a hater of the guy. He is part of our history and that will never change. I do did get a kick out of the banter, especially your defending him. Will add that I do see/read when you say negative things about TC.
Title: Re: Chad Ford's Top 100 Update - Dekker/Blue
Post by: The Lens on March 27, 2013, 09:12:26 AM
TC had no idea that James had quote unquote peaked.  It's a Chris Thomas situation.  I would have told James to stay.  TC gets the big picture, he knows guys going early, as long as they're getting paid, is really good for your program.
Title: Re: Chad Ford's Top 100 Update - Dekker/Blue
Post by: barfolomew on March 27, 2013, 10:00:13 AM
Quote from: keefe on March 26, 2013, 07:28:10 PM
Or like Crean did with DJ? Crean cost that man millions. Millions.

But then he never would have met his hot Italian wife... so perhaps everything happens for a reason.
Title: Re: Chad Ford's Top 100 Update - Dekker/Blue
Post by: MerrittsMustache on March 27, 2013, 10:07:46 AM
Quote from: The Lens on March 27, 2013, 09:12:26 AM
TC had no idea that James had quote unquote peaked.  It's a Chris Thomas situation.  I would have told James to stay.  TC gets the big picture, he knows guys going early, as long as they're getting paid, is really good for your program.

I agree with your point. However, when you're writing, you can actually use quotation marks. You don't need to use the phrase "quote unquote."   ;D
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