Another look at the last-second Davidson victory and the "extra" timeout
Lexington, Ky. - In one of the most thriling finishes in MU history, the Golden Eagles were out of timeouts.
http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/199622171.html
Uh oh....Hunt used the L word
As I watched this again, I noticed that Davidson also got an extra time out too, right? Didn't their players get to huddle with their coach and come up with a defensive plan? Did their coach not scout the STJ game when Vander drove to the basket not once but twice for key buckets?
Quote from: IrwinFletcher on March 22, 2013, 10:13:41 PM
As I watched this again, I noticed that Davidson also got an extra time out too, right? Didn't their players get to huddle with their coach and come up with a defensive plan? Did their coach not scout the STJ game when Vander drove to the basket not once but twice for key buckets?
+1
This happens almost every game. The officials go to the monitor to check something and coaches from both teams get a free time out. The only reason this is even being talked about is because a completely normal event happened at a crucial time and game MU a chance to gather itself for a last second shot. McKillop told his team what MU was probably going to do and how he wanted it defended. He was right. Almost an unfair advantage for Davidson.
Quote from: tower912 on March 23, 2013, 07:14:52 AM
This happens almost every game. The officials go to the monitor to check something and coaches from both teams get a free time out. The only reason this is even being talked about is because a completely normal event happened at a crucial time and game MU a chance to gather itself for a last second shot. McKillop told his team what MU was probably going to do and how he wanted it defended. He was right. Almost an unfair advantage for Davidson.
Interesting take on McKillop's complaint on this. Bottom line is everybody knew that Blue would drive to the hole yet they failed to stop it. I am curious how McKillop explained letting Marquette score 25% of its total points in the last 2 minutes?
McKillop ... grow up! :'( This is such a non-issue.
Clock situations, injuries, players fouling out ... all these things result in "unfair timeouts" and they happen over and over and over again.
I'll tell you what, Coach. Next time such a situation happens with you having no timeouts, I think you should tell the ref: "No, we're fine with there being less time on the clock for us to try to score the winning basket. Don't bother checking the monitors. We'd hate to benefit from an unfair advantage."
Quote from: MU82 on March 23, 2013, 08:46:20 AM
McKillop ... grow up! :'( This is such a non-issue.
Clock situations, injuries, players fouling out ... all these things result in "unfair timeouts" and they happen over and over and over again.
I'll tell you what, Coach. Next time such a situation happens with you having no timeouts, I think you should tell the ref: "No, we're fine with there being less time on the clock for us to try to score the winning basket. Don't bother checking the monitors. We'd hate to benefit from an unfair advantage."
+1000
Vander scored with one second on the clock. Checking the monitor put 1.7 seconds back on. Davidson comes from a conference where a full time out is one minute long, and a 30 second time out is really only 30 seconds. In a game where MU was air balling lay ups and just needed one point to tie...how a coach with a team of that foot speed isn't in a zone there was the unfair advantage. McKillop meet mirror.
Quote from: IrwinFletcher on March 22, 2013, 10:13:41 PM
As I watched this again, I noticed that Davidson also got an extra time out too, right? Didn't their players get to huddle with their coach and come up with a defensive plan? Did their coach not scout the STJ game when Vander drove to the basket not once but twice for key buckets?
Exactly. Davidson was "lucky". The great Bob "Sour Grapes" McKillop got a free time out to remind all of his Rhodes Scholar candidates that Vander would drive to the hoop off a high ball screen JUST LIKE HE DID TWICE recently against St Johns. Presumably the great Bob McKillop had access to and watched those tapes. A simple switch to a zone could have stopped it. Bringing extra help against Van could have stopped it. They're we're less than 7 seconds left, and McKillop left his 6'10" center with the responsibility of guarding Van on the top of the key off a ball screen with no help. And some geniuses are foolish enough to think he out coached Buzz because we missed a bunch of shots. Incredible.
Looks to me like both coaches were coaching during that time out. Davidson coach wasn't just sitting there scanning the cheerleaders he was prepping his team for scenarios.
Part of the game that I like really, there should be some variables in sports..
The stoppage to adjust the clock happens all the time and is part of the game, it's a non-issue. No need to stop making sure the clock is correct, no need to put the players in a corner away from their coach, none of that. MU was indeed lucky to pull it out, but that wasn't part of the luck.
It is so common and such a non-issue that the real story would have been if Buzz HADN'T used the opportunity afforded him by the officials making sure they had the correct amount of time. If he HADN'T done it and Blue doesn't make the shot, then their would have been something real to criticize.