Mine would be not to help on D too much. Our guys should for the most part be able to guard 1 on 1. MU is more athletic and deep. Do not pressure too far out and allow dribble drives that cause help and drive draw dish 3s. 3pt shots off the dribble will be much more difficult. Also do not help too much in the post. Let Chris et al fend for themselves without fouling. A few post up shots are prefferable to allowing Davidson to get hot from 3.
Keep Davidson off the FT line and make them shoot highly contested 3s.
In other words, limit 3s and FTs as much as possible.
I think they are going to be pressuring the ball out on defense. This is the same strategy used against BYU last year to keep them from running their offense until deep into the shot clock. I would only switch from this strategy if it doesn't work...ie, their guards get lane penetration. Otherwise this plays right into MU strengths.
As part of my defensive strategy, I would also make it a priority to attack the basket on offense. Make their shooters defend and either get tired or into foul trouble. Stay home, help less, don't double the post, play Jamil, Juan and STjr together at times, pressure their guards. Take to heart Buzz's quote from the Milwaukee magazine regarding Wiscy. "You're more athletic than they are. F with them. "
Quote from: tower912 on March 20, 2013, 11:27:30 AM
As part of my defensive strategy, I would also make it a priority to attack the basket on offense. Make their shooters defend and either get tired or into foul trouble. Stay home, help less, don't double the post, play Jamil, Juan and STjr together at times, pressure their guards. Take to heart Buzz's quote from the Milwaukee magazine regarding Wiscy. "You're more athletic than they are. F with them. "
I agree with attack the basket. Davidson only really plays 7 guys (1 other is hurt) so if we can get two guys in foul trouble early, that will help screw up their offensive rhythm.
Hey Buzz use my strategy Im just a 32 year old with no experience at all and no scouting tapes.
Run Triangle and 2 whatever that means.
Maybe the usual line up plus STJ. Maybe put Jamil in there too, I think as long as they don't follow suit and play with six or seven as well we can pull this one out.
Tight man to man D.
Hopefully Mayo and Blue are tenanicous on the D (no pun intended) Otule and De'De' will be like windex on the glass. Bruise them down low, grab boards, "easy peasy, yup and easy" -Brooks Shawshank Redemption.
Quote from: john31 on March 20, 2013, 12:22:35 PM
Maybe the usual line up plus STJ. Maybe put Jamil in there too, I think as long as they don't follow suit and play with six or seven as well we can pull this one out.
So 7 men on the floor? Groundbreaking
Quote from: JDuquaine on March 20, 2013, 12:25:58 PM
Tight man to man D.
Hopefully Mayo and Blue are tenanicous on the D (no pun intended) Otule and De'De' will be like windex on the glass. Bruise them down low, grab boards, "easy peasy, yup and easy" -Brooks Shawshank Redemption.
Easy, peasy, Japanesey?
I'm more concerned w/what they do on offense. Pound the ball down low - early - to Otule and let him set the pace. Get D.Gardner involved too. Only threes (early on) should be wide open looks...which will be set-up by the down-low buckets since we are so much bigger than they are. Use our depth and D.Wilson's speed to harass their guards too when he comes in to sub for J.Cad.
Oh yeah...Steve effinig Taylor Jr. Get him 14 minutes.
Quote from: Bieberhole69 on March 20, 2013, 12:31:27 PM
Easy, peasy, Japanesey?
Yes. Jap-a-nesey it is!
Brooks was here (so was Red)
I always contimplated between the two. I figured Brooks was in prison before WW2, so i thought it was "yup and easy"
I must be getting hard of hearing, Japaneasy it is.
Quote from: JDuquaine on March 20, 2013, 12:25:58 PM
Tight man to man D.
Hopefully Mayo and Blue are tenanicous on the D (no pun intended) Otule and De'De' will be like windex on the glass. Bruise them down low, grab boards, "easy peasy, yup and easy" -Brooks Shawshank Redemption.
Honestly, given the metrics that Paint Touches was throwing out there, I'd almost debate throwing D Wilson out there for some hard guarding on their top 3 point shooter. Say what you will about his offense, that defense will be a game changer in this game.
Other than that, Gardner and Jamil need to be inside and working on drawing fouls on their two forwards. That's the key: the Muscala treatment when they got Mike Muscala in foul trouble and drew 4 fouls on him by the 14 minute mark in the 2nd half.
I hope Buzz scouted them and took somebody elses ideas how to guard people, if he plays the same D he did against ND letting Connaugton shoot open 3's, then MU is a loser. I really
can not figure out even after week, how you scout an opponent, the player does exactly what he did the night before, and you did nothing to stop that, can somebody explain?
Quote from: BCHoopster on March 20, 2013, 12:45:48 PM
I hope Buzz scouted them and took somebody elses ideas how to guard people, if he plays the same D he did against ND letting Connaugton shoot open 3's, then MU is a loser. I really
can not figure out even after week, how you scout an opponent, the player does exactly what he did the night before, and you did nothing to stop that, can somebody explain?
Sometimes 18-22 year olds lose focus...
Quote from: M@RQUETTEW@RRIORS on March 20, 2013, 12:52:16 PM
Sometimes 18-22 year olds lose focus...
I thought adderall was used by all college students now.
Quote from: BCHoopster on March 20, 2013, 12:45:48 PM
I hope Buzz scouted them and took somebody elses ideas how to guard people, if he plays the same D he did against ND letting Connaugton shoot open 3's, then MU is a loser. I really
can not figure out even after week, how you scout an opponent, the player does exactly what he did the night before, and you did nothing to stop that, can somebody explain?
I agree with you, but I just watched Buzz's show last night and he specifically said that they didn't guard the ball like they needed to in the ND game, and that's why Connaugton was open.
He didn't get into more specifics, but my guess is that they were allowing too much penetration and subsequent rotations. It might not be as much a tactical error as much as a physical one. Guys just didn't guard like they should.
From week to week, MU's defense is very similar. The small wrinkle Buzz has added is a 2-3/3-2 zone (depending upon how he deploys it).
If standard man to man isn't working, I wouldn't be against mixing in some length and playing zone (close out hard on shooters and use length to bother their shots). You risk steam rolling over a shooter, but it allows MU to use their length athleticism to bother their guards and/or change their rhythm.
With all of this said, MU is better than Davidson, so it's time to just play better than Davidson. No tricks. Just be better.
3-2 zone. Smother the perimeter
Quote from: JakeBarnes on March 20, 2013, 12:44:19 PM
Honestly, given the metrics that Paint Touches was throwing out there, I'd almost debate throwing D Wilson out there for some hard guarding on their top 3 point shooter. Say what you will about his offense, that defense will be a game changer in this game.
You can't have D. Wilson and Junior on the floor at the same time. And Wilson's best defensive attribute is riding their PG up the floor. You would rather have Blue or Lockett's length against a three point shooter.
Quote from: BCHoopster on March 20, 2013, 12:45:48 PM
I hope Buzz scouted them and took somebody elses ideas how to guard people, if he plays the same D he did against ND letting Connaugton shoot open 3's, then MU is a loser. I really
can not figure out even after week, how you scout an opponent, the player does exactly what he did the night before, and you did nothing to stop that, can somebody explain?
(1) Pretty sure that he was open and hit some shots
or
(2) It was the uniforms
This is not rocket science: Do not leave 3-point shooters open to double, gamble or help on post players or any other non-3-point shooters. That single, simple strategy probably produces victory in a game in which Marquette is the better team in most areas.
Buzz surely knows this, and hopefully his players will execute it.
Go as big as possible and play a zone for 5 minutes and then go as quick as possible and press the hell out of them fo 5 minutes.
Quote from: leever on March 20, 2013, 12:57:02 PM
(1) Pretty sure that he was open and hit some shots
or
(2) It was the uniforms
I was too busy having fits of nausea at the bar I was watching it at. I imagine the team was fighting the same feelings.
Quote from: Guns n Ammo on March 20, 2013, 12:54:29 PM
I agree with you, but I just watched Buzz's show last night and he specifically said that they didn't guard the ball like they needed to in the ND game, and that's why Connaugton was open.
He didn't get into more specifics, but my guess is that they were allowing too much penetration and subsequent rotations. It might not be as much a tactical error as much as a physical one. Guys just didn't guard like they should.
From week to week, MU's defense is very similar. The small wrinkle Buzz has added is a 2-3/3-2 zone (depending upon how he deploys it).
If standard man to man isn't working, I wouldn't be against mixing in some length and playing zone (close out hard on shooters and use length to bother their shots). You risk steam rolling over a shooter, but it allows MU to use their length athleticism to bother their guards and/or change their rhythm.
With all of this said, MU is better than Davidson, so it's time to just play better than Davidson. No tricks. Just be better.
Agreed, but once he hit one 3, I would have told a player not to leave that man. If you watched Louisville the next night, Russ Smith never left him, just watchhim, let the other players beat
you then. I just do not want to see a bunch of slow players get easy threes against MU, they are probably not quick enough to drive to the hoop. If that is the case play Wilson on Cohen and let Otule guard a big down low.
guard the lane.
BC...let it go. The ND game is behind us. Learn from it and move on.
I don't know if this is a viable option, but I kind of remember jimmy Mac running out on some three point shooters and disrupting their shots. Is it possible that otule and stj and even jamil can do that sort of thing? I don't remember if we were in a zone when that kind of d happened. with our rebounding guards tracking down the misses mu could disrupt their rhythm by running a big out on three point shots.
Extended man to man defense and pressure the hell out of their guards.
Quote from: MUEagle1090 on March 20, 2013, 01:22:25 PM
Extended man to man defense and pressure the hell out of their guards.
I see the 3 quarter press being a big part of the game.
Hopefully Buzz watched the tape of the UL-Davidson game from last year. That's the blueprint for a creative way to take Brooks out of the game.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on March 20, 2013, 01:04:18 PM
BC...let it go. The ND game is behind us. Learn from it and move on.
Sultan, I will get over it as soon as they start playing tomorrow, then something else will upset me. All I care is that they win, playing ugly is fine, but you need to stop turning the
ball over like 25% of the time. One of the reasons they do that, is that they pass to much. Have to take an open shot when they see it, hope Lockett had a lesson on not turning
it over. I would like to see Lockett take the shot instead of putting his head down and driving to the basket. Lockett is like the X factor, whatever he does well, is a positive. What
do you think Sultan?
I think Lockett gets in more trouble when he puts his head down and drives to the basket and not when he passes too much.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on March 20, 2013, 02:03:33 PM
I think Lockett gets in more trouble when he puts his head down and drives to the basket and not when he passes too much.
That is for sure, just has to play smarter and after 30 games, not sure he gets it.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on March 20, 2013, 02:03:33 PM
I think Lockett gets in more trouble when he puts his head down and drives to the basket and not when he passes too much.
Definately! Puts his head down and then reacts to his jumpstop late because of it.
Press, press and more press. I haven't watched much Davidson ball, but i think if we press, play hard nose, man v man defense, we should cruise. I just hope Chris and De'De' are prepared to run a lot.
Pressure and don't help. We chase the ball and help too much sometimes.
Don't leave the traditionals wides open while doubling a guy who isn't a threat (like the ND game in the Garden)
Only way we lose is if the get and make wide open three balls. Theres no way they can handle the length and athleticism Marquette posseses. They have never seen anything like theyre going to today in their own conference.
Quote from: Sylvester78 on March 21, 2013, 07:56:06 AM
Pressure and don't help. We chase the ball and help too much sometimes.
Don't leave the traditionals wides open while doubling a guy who isn't a threat (like the ND game in the Garden)
Only way we lose is if the get and make wide open three balls. Theres no way they can handle the length and athleticism Marquette posseses. They have never seen anything like theyre going to today in their own conference.
I thought I was the only person who thought we over help, and leave teams to just pass the ball and take wide open looks. Glad someone else sees it too.
I would put Blue on their best 3 point shooter and prevent him from getting the ball. I would get their big 6'10" forward in foul trouble by paint touches and inside scoring. Get him on the bench. Go Marquette, win this game!
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With all of this said, MU is better than Davidson, so it's time to just play better than Davidson. No tricks. Just be better.
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This is it, exactly.
Buzz will do what Buzz does...Shuffle guys in and out until he finds he right combination, and adjust as the game goes on. Unlike many here, he will not overreact to how bad it was in one game against ND, and deviate too far from how they typically play. We haven't been particularly good against 3-pt shooting all year, but that game was obviously particularly bad. It doesn't mean that you should suddenly focus all your energy on that 3-pt line.
College basketball is all about the 3-pt shot. That certainly isn't a new phenomenon since MU lost to ND, or got paired up against Davidson. Its also why Sweet 16 may be Mu's ceiling. Play how you play, and don't try to do anything drastically different.
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on March 21, 2013, 08:07:10 AM
I thought I was the only person who thought we over help, and leave teams to just pass the ball and take wide open looks. Glad someone else sees it too.
This is an interesting article if you haven't read it, basically says players should be helping more in most situations... from a computer model that is
http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/9068903/the-toronto-raptors-sportvu-cameras-nba-analytical-revolution
I'm with you though, get in there face and run them out of the gym
Quote from: LAMUfan on March 21, 2013, 08:19:21 AM
This is an interesting article if you haven't read it, basically says players should be helping more in most situations... from a computer model that is
http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/9068903/the-toronto-raptors-sportvu-cameras-nba-analytical-revolution
I'm with you though, get in there face and run them out of the gym
I think that probably holds true for most teams... A lot of teams that have success against us seem to just pass it around until we over help and have open shots.
Guard the perimeter. Do it either with extended man to man or a high 3-2. Switch on screens with man to man.
We can afford to let them score from inside the arc because their offense will not be efficient enough to match what we should be able to do on offense.
I think Buzz will try to slow the game down and limit the number of times DU has the ball. If we are efficient on offense, draw fouls and most importantly limit unforced turnovers, Davidson simply will not have enough possessions to score as much as we should.
If we are sloppy with the ball or allow DU to shoot a high percentage from three, it will be close. If we defend the arc and take care of the ball, no sweat.
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on March 21, 2013, 08:07:10 AM
I thought I was the only person who thought we over help, and leave teams to just pass the ball and take wide open looks. Glad someone else sees it too.
I see it too, but I think there is definitely a method to Buzz's madness.
I remember in the Marquette revealed videos a couple years ago Buzz was getting after Junior about how he was defending. I remember Buzz saying over and over "Sprint to help, if you slide, you'll be too late!"
MU plays man2man mostly, but there are specific principles to how they guard the ball and how they guard in different positions on the floor. It's not just about sticking with a guy. It's a bit like a zone with the way they guard guys away from the ball.
The good news is that I think MU is capable of playing good defense, but the bad news is that I think it's tougher to change on the fly because they are coached so hard on specific techniques. When you drill over and over, it's hard to suddenly change it.
A 4-1 zone all game