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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: Niv Berkowitz on March 11, 2013, 08:39:05 AM
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This is funny. Duke has it's own friggin' bracket.
Maybe a Superbar subject, but I digress. Enjoy.
http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/9038798/a-tournament-determine-most-hated-college-basketball-players-last-30-years
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The author probably isn't old enough to remember Kelly Trapuka, Bruce Flowers or any of the former Irish players. I used to walk around the floor of the MECCA as a grade schooler spewing venom @ those guys.
Met Bruce at a party years later and conveyed my feelings prior to our meeting. He loved it and turned out to be a decent guy.
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No way should Greg Paulus be an 8 seed matched up with Laetner. Aside from Devendorf, I don't think I've ever hated a college basketball player as much.
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Where's Tom Kleinschmidt, Cherokee Parks and Alaa Abdelnaby? I think the entire bracket could be filled with Dukies.
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Devendorf shouldnt even be in a bracket. The tournament should be named after him
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Devendorf shouldnt even be in a bracket. The tournament should be named after him
Once he dies of a heroin overdose, it can be named after him.
The Eric Devendorf Scumbag NCAA Players Tournament.
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Not any of Huggins' Cinci thugs. Bogus list.
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Fab Five. The most hated, hands down. You can choose any player. Those arrogant punks. They acted like they should of had the keys before they learned how to drive. Result, NO CHAMPIONSHIP!!! And they beat by two ACC teams.
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Why are Pervis Ellison and Matean Cleaves on the list? I don't remember them being hated that much.
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Why are Pervis Ellison and Matean Cleaves on the list? I don't remember them being hated that much.
Also was Iverson really "hated" in his lone season?
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Fab Five. The most hated, hands down. You can choose any player. Those arrogant punks. They acted like they should of had the keys before they learned how to drive. Result, NO CHAMPIONSHIP!!! And they beat by two ACC teams.
Except for the fact that they were SUPER popular and a lot of people loved them.
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Devendorf needs to be the ultimate one seed
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Except for the fact that they were SUPER popular and a lot of people loved them.
I liked them. They played good basketball, and that 1993 semifinal against Kentucky was one of the best college basketball games I have ever seen.
Too bad Alan Henderson got hurt that year because Indiana may have been the best team in the country that year.
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The author probably isn't old enough to remember Kelly Trapuka, Bruce Flowers or any of the former Irish players. I used to walk around the floor of the MECCA as a grade schooler spewing venom @ those guys.
Met Bruce at a party years later and conveyed my feelings prior to our meeting. He loved it and turned out to be a decent guy.
Kelly Tripucka. +100
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Michael Graham, an absolute thug through and through, was the most hated guy on those Georgetown teams at the time, not Ewing, who was basically just ridiculously good. I guess you can hate people for that.
Laettner would win for me, though Paulus is a close second. I remember that Dom stripped him a time or two early in the game during our early season loss to Duke, and after that the refs just allowed Paulus to just push him away with his free hand for the rest of the game. If they don't allow him to do that, we roll them. That infuriated me.
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Kelly Tripucka. +100
and Laimbeer.
Laimbeer remained a d*ck in the NBA. Sunk a long three against the Bucks. Ran off the court signalling "Three". Crowd screaming at him. He thrived on being a d*ck.
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Laettner would win for me, though Paulus is a close second. I remember that Dom stripped him a time or two early in the game during our early season loss to Duke, and after that the refs just allowed Paulus to just push him away with his free hand for the rest of the game. If they don't allow him to do that, we roll them. That infuriated me.
Paulus should win over Laettner. Say what you will about Lattner, he is one of the greatest college basketball players of all time. As a college basketball fan, you have to respect him.
Paulus, on the other hand, was the epitome of an over hyped Duke player.
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Fab Five. The most hated, hands down. You can choose any player. Those arrogant punks. They acted like they should of had the keys before they learned how to drive. Result, NO CHAMPIONSHIP!!! And they beat by two ACC teams.
No way to the whole Fab Five. Arrogant punks? Really? No other team of all freshmen have ever done that again (nor will). And like Jalen says at the end of the 30-for-30 .... "who won the championship in 91? 92? 2002? 2005?" People can't, but they sure as heck can remember the Fab Five. They changed the friggin' game as we know it (for better or worse is open for debate).
I'm surprised Jalen's #1, but I thought he'd make the list. I think they did that to tweak him since him and Simmons are BFFs now.
I will say, my opinion of Jalen's been a complete 180. Used to hate him and love Webber. Now it's vice versa.
And my vote is for Devendorf. I think you could nominate the entire Cinci team from 1991-1998. No Jason Maxiel for the punch-to-MU's-nuts game?
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Fab Five. The most hated, hands down. You can choose any player. Those arrogant punks. They acted like they should of had the keys before they learned how to drive. Result, NO CHAMPIONSHIP!!! And they beat by two ACC teams.
And nobody was rooting for Duke to beat Michigan that year they played. The nation was pulling for UM (most of it, anyways). That team was INSANELY popular. They were friggin' worldwide. No college team will ever be like that again.
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Paulus should win over Laettner. Say what you will about Lattner, he is one of the greatest college basketball players of all time. As a college basketball fan, you have to respect him.
Paulus, on the other hand, was the epitome of an over hyped Duke player.
You're probably right, of course. I hate Laettner because he ended UConn's season in 1990 with a double-pump buzzer-beater in the regional final. UConn in 1990 remains was my favorite non-MU team of all time. Plus he purposely stomped on a guy in the KY game, and trash-talked/goaded UConn's usually mild-mannered C Jeff(?)Sellers into strangling him in the 1991 NCAAs. He was easy to hate, besides being really good.
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Most people will hate another player in their conference the most I'm guessing. You can add me to the Devendorf list. Joakim Noah was also up there just because he looks like a jag. I can imagine JJ Redick tops a lot of ACC fans' lists in the last decade. Ever hear some of the stuff crowds would chant at him?
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No way to the whole Fab Five. Arrogant punks? Really? No other team of all freshmen have ever done that again (nor will). And like Jalen says at the end of the 30-for-30 .... "who won the championship in 91? 92? 2002? 2005?" People can't, but they sure as heck can remember the Fab Five. They changed the friggin' game as we know it (for better or worse is open for debate).
I'm surprised Jalen's #1, but I thought he'd make the list. I think they did that to tweak him since him and Simmons are BFFs now.
I will say, my opinion of Jalen's been a complete 180. Used to hate him and love Webber. Now it's vice versa.
And my vote is for Devendorf. I think you could nominate the entire Cinci team from 1991-1998. No Jason Maxiel for the punch-to-MU's-nuts game?
How did they change the game other than Baggy, long shorts and black socks becoming the norm? They were talented but arrogant! Most hated.
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How did they change the game other than Baggy, long shorts and black socks becoming the norm? They were talented but arrogant! Most hated.
I do think that the 30 for 30 overstated how much they changed the game. Baggy shorts became a thing with Jordan...not the Fab Five. They were very unique however given the fact they were all freshmen.
And yeah, they were arrogant. That never bothered me all that much.
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The Fab Five also didn't start out the season with all 5 as starters. It wasn't until close to the NCAA tournament that Fisher decided to start them all together. Even then, it was mainly Weber, Rose and Howard with the majority of the playing time, while King and the other guy played about half or less than half the game.
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The Fab Five also didn't start out the season with all 5 as starters. It wasn't until close to the NCAA tournament that Fisher decided to start them all together. Even then, it was mainly Weber, Rose and Howard with the majority of the playing time, while King and the other guy played about half or less than half the game.
Michigan played 34 games their freshman season. Webber started all of them, Rose 33, Howard 31, King 21, Jackson 15. They all started together from early February on.
Jackson averaged 17 minutes but the rest of them all averaged 28+. In fact, Howard played all of 1 minute more than King on the season.
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Kelly tripucka, David Rivers, joe chernelich, corzine and the big white kid ND seems to every year...fill in the name.
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Michigan played 34 games their freshman season. Webber started all of them, Rose 33, Howard 31, King 21, Jackson 15. They all started together from early February on.
Jackson averaged 17 minutes but the rest of them all averaged 28+. In fact, Howard played all of 1 minute more than King on the season.
Well, guess i was wrong about King, and guess I was a couple weeks off in terms of Fisher starting them as a unit (thought it was closer to the end of February).
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For me personally my least favorite player hands down is Jon Scheyer. Couldn't stand the kid in high school or college.
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In no order of Big East opponents:
Pittsnogle WV
Jerry Smith UL
Kye Mcalarney ND
Devendorf SU
Harangody ND
McNamara SU
Aaron Gray Pitt
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In no order of Big East opponents:
Pittsnogle WV
Jerry Smith UL
Kye Mcalarney ND
Devendorf SU
Harangody ND
McNamara SU
Aaron Gray Pitt
What? No Ben Hansbrough?!?
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In no order of Big East opponents:
Pittsnogle WV
Jerry Smith UL
Kye Mcalarney ND
Devendorf SU
Harangody ND
McNamara SU
Aaron Gray Pitt
Ahhhh. Forgot about Pittsnoggle.
From a Big East standpoint, I think Devandorf is #2, w/Harongody #1. Hands effing down.
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I hated Scottie Reynolds so much for the following reasons: he always killed us, two of my best friends went to Nova so that was annoying, they were really good when he was there, it felt like he was there for a whole decade, and we matched up against him perfectly but he would crush us. I was so happy when he became the first All American to not be drafted.
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Kelly tripucka, yes, David Rivers, yes, joe chernelich, yes, corzine, ?, and the big white kid ND seems to every year, yes...fill in the name.
Add to that Ricky Olson and Mark Aguirre
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Where's Tom Kleinschmidt?
He played at Depaul.
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Except for the fact that they were SUPER popular and a lot of people loved them.
Kind of like Duke?
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and Laimbeer.
Laimbeer remained a d*ck in the NBA. Sunk a long three against the Bucks. Ran off the court signalling "Three". Crowd screaming at him. He thrived on being a d*ck.
You nailed it. I was sure that this would turn into a "why I hate Laimbeer" thread. He has to be responsible for at least 2/3's of the hate directed toward ND to this day whether those directing the hate that way know it or not. He and Digger (with a nod in Tirpucka's direction) institutionalized hated of ND at Marquette. The only possible explanation is that he was just too long ago for many on this board to appreciate. The only thing that ever got Laimbeer pissed was not getting to the crowd.
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Kelly tripucka, David Rivers, joe chernelich, corzine and the big white kid ND seems to every year...fill in the name.
Really? You hated David Rivers? I can see the other guys, but Rivers was a down-to-earth kid who was a really good player with a good, came-from-nothing, recovered from a devastating car accident story.
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David Rivers drove me crazy. Thought he was over hyped, played for what seemed like a decade at ND and had buzzer beater against us. My hate factor is based off if the kids career seems longer than four years.
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I hated Scottie Reynolds so much for the following reasons: he always killed us, two of my best friends went to Nova so that was annoying, they were really good when he was there, it felt like he was there for a whole decade, and we matched up against him perfectly but he would crush us. I was so happy when he became the first All American to not be drafted.
I disliked him ONLY because he did well against us. Other than that, I think he was ultimately likeable. Played hard, was damn good, and didn't seem to have an ego (in terms of showing people up or otherwise being unsportsmanlike).
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My most hated Domer is Dwight Clay, who hit a 22 footer from the baseline to end MU's home winning streak at 81. Probably a really good guy but I can't forgive him that shot.
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Lenny
I hate that clay beat us, but I never hated him before that. Will remember him beating us forever and the heartbreak that followed. Maybe I will start to hate 35 years later. Nice addition.
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Except for the fact that they were SUPER popular and a lot of people loved them.
Jalen Rose is a very funny and interesting guy. C Webb always seemed like a chill dude.
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I completely disagree with nearly every player on this list. Maybe I am misunderstanding the concept here. We are going to hate players who were good and maybe a little annoying?
Where are the cheaters ala Chris Webber? Where are the women beaters, ala Devendorf? People who attempted to murder their roommate, ala Donald Little?
Those are the people who should be hated. Seems like this bracket confirms that society's priorities are messed up.
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Where's Jean Felix on the list?
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I completely disagree with nearly every player on this list. Maybe I am misunderstanding the concept here. We are going to hate players who were good and maybe a little annoying?
Where are the cheaters ala Chris Webber? Where are the women beaters, ala Devendorf? People who attempted to murder their roommate, ala Donald Little?
Those are the people who should be hated. Seems like this bracket confirms that society's priorities are messed up.
Let's not forget the horse puncher - Art Long.