Then just wait till their coaches can no longer promise potential recruits playing time against big stage opponents like Syracuse, Louisville, Pitt, ND, West Virginia, etc.. ::) ?-( I got sick of counting all the prime empty seats when watching MU play Seton Hall this year and can only imagine how many empty seats there will be when they can only sign 1 and 2 star recruits when dogs like Creighton, Xavier, Dayton and St. Louis are added as "replacements" to the ticket buying public.
Well unfortunately the board boobs that populate and try to dominate the thinking of this site and say Detroit Mercy would be an exciting potential addition with a straight face aren't as clueless as the rest the US population where more than 50% of them acknowledge the new conference (see attached) will be considered mid-major or worse. That is especially scary in that over 50% of the population was dumb enough to vote for Obama twice so were not talking about a very savvy pubic.
Smart "mid-major" retailers like the "Limited" used to sign leases in sub-tenant locations with major anchors in place knowing the major anchors like Nordstrom, for example, would draw in customers to the mall and they in turn would feed off the anchor's superior advertising and branding capabilities. So instead of keeping close to these big football/state "anchor" type of schools like UConn, Cincy, with a history of Final 4's and McDonald All American's, etc. our AD and our board shun even the idea of having them for a couple more years so we can add more worthless mid-majors that will ensure the ultimate demise of MU Basketball back to it's sad late 1980's status.
Why don't we just let Buzz go to the next major Big 4 conference job, let our star recruits out of their letters of intent and hire Brian Wardle and be prepared for a move back to the Mecca with close losses to UW-Milwaukee already. The Big 4 conferences will soon shun the NCAA and create their own National Championship for basketball and we'll be completely left out so we might as well be resigned to our fate sooner than later.
Such a shame as it was so much fun playing in the real Big East (AKA - The Beast) and now we will be left to a bunch of other teams with a fading star who won't be able to attract and retain the brightest coaches and players like they did in the past. Poor leadership and changes in the college basketball landscape that were out of our control are the two primary culprits to this sickening and sad ultimate demise.
Lol. Troll on buddy! The leaders of the C7, MU and GTown, just won a share of the Big East Title.
Nice job Einstein.
The Real Sultan, your cousin?
Quote from: The Sultan of Silly on March 10, 2013, 05:30:43 PM
Then just wait till their coaches can no longer promise potential recruits playing time against big stage opponents like Syracuse, Louisville, Pitt, ND, West Virginia, etc.. ::) ?-( I got sick of counting all the prime empty seats when watching MU play Seton Hall this year and can only imagine how many empty seats there will be when they can only sign 1 and 2 star recruits when dogs like Creighton, Xavier, Dayton and St. Louis are added as "replacements" to the ticket buying public.
Well unfortunately the board boobs that populate and try to dominate the thinking of this site and say Detroit Mercy would be an exciting potential addition with a straight face aren't as clueless as the rest the US population where more than 50% of them acknowledge the new conference (see attached) will be considered mid-major or worse. That is especially scary in that over 50% of the population was dumb enough to vote for Obama twice so were not talking about a very savvy pubic.
Smart "mid-major" retailers like the "Limited" used to sign leases in sub-tenant locations with major anchors in place knowing the major anchors like Nordstrom, for example, would draw in tenants to the mall and they in turn would feed off the anchor's superior advertising and branding capabilities. So instead of keeping close to these big football/state "anchor" type of schools like UConn, Cincy, with a history of Final 4's and McDonald All American's, etc. our AD and our board shun even the idea of having them for a couple more years so we can add more worthless mid-majors that will ensure the ultimate demise of MU Basketball back to it's sad late 1980's status.
Why don't we just let Buzz go to the next major Big 4 conference job, let our star recruits out of their letters of intent and hire Brian Wardle and be prepared for a move back to the Mecca with close losses to UW-Milwaukee already. The Big 4 conferences will soon shun the NCAA and create their own National Championship for basketball and we'll be completely left out so we might as well be resigned to our fate sooner than later.
Such a shame as it was so much fun playing in the real Big East (AKA - The Beast) and now we will be left to a bunch of other teams with a fading star who won't be able to attract and retain the brightest coaches and players like they did in the past. Poor leadership and changes in the college basketball landscape that were out of our control are the two primary culprits to this sickening and sad ultimate demise.
How are the Boiler Makers doing?
It's just keefe/warthog, etc. trying to troll me.
Not gonna work.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on March 10, 2013, 05:37:17 PM
It's just keefe/warthog, etc. trying to troll me.
Not gonna work.
Nah. I think it's UDPride.
Sultan, you're not related to UDpride I'm assuming. 8-)
Actually, the original poster has a nice command of the language. He's still an idiot though.
I have to tell you that as pumped up as I am about this year's team there is a knot in my stomach regarding the future. The reason we are so pumped about this year is becasue we beat some of the best the nation has to offer. SU, PITT, ND, UConn.. We tied Lousiville for the title. That competition is gone now. So while some feel that it is no big deal that we are replacing these team with mid majors (fact), I think it is. This is about the future and I am sorry these new teams just don't add up. If Buzz leaves I can't wait to hear what the excuse from so many people is..
anyone have a link to that poll? I would like to see the breakdowns.
A league with MU, Georgetown, Villanova, Butler, Xavier, et al is not mid major. And the OP's whole raison d'etre is found in his moniker. He is just a silly troll.
Quote from: jt92 on March 10, 2013, 06:01:49 PM
I have to tell you that as pumped up as I am about this year's team there is a kmot in my stomach regarding the future. The reason we are so pumped about this year is becasue we beat some of the best the nation has to offer. SU, PITT, ND, UConn.. We tied Lousiville for the title. That competition is gone now. So while some feel that it is no big deal that we are replacing these team with mid majors (fact), I think it is. This is about the future and I am sorry these new teams just don't add up. If Buzz leaves I can't wait to hear what the excuse from so many people is..
Georgetown, Marquette, Villinova, Butler, Creighton, SLU. 6 teams that are going to be in the conference in 2 years are solidly in the NCAA Tournament this year. That's 50% of the league. The number of bids and the percentages of teams from the conference going to the NCAA Tournament would equal that of every conference except for maybe the top 2, possibly the top 3 in the country. Some people are just silly talking about "mid-major." Fox is going to pony up this much money to get a mid-major conference on their network? Likely.
Not to mention I expect Xavier, St. John's, and Providence to be in the running for NCAA Tournament bids next year, and who knows who team #12 will be? Maybe it's VCU, which would make it bid #7.
This is a great satirical thread.
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on March 10, 2013, 06:04:59 PM
anyone have a link to that poll? I would like to see the breakdowns.
I posted it earlier today . Look for "ESPN poll big east future" or something like that.
I don't think it's UDPride, he's still laying in the middle of downtown Dayton hung-over from celebrating UD's getting that coveted 12 seed
They feasted on really bad teams. Sorry you cannot compare Creighton, Xavier and St. Louis with Syr, Pitt, Louisville and UConn. If you are trying to make a case that we are going to a stronger conference, you are wrong. The only hope is that the basketball only schools can market to recruits that these schools main focus is basketball and that somehow it resonates...but that is a longshot. Liberty is going to the tournament..lets add them, maybe we can make an exception to their non catholic status.
Nobody is arguing that MU is entering a better conference. However, anyone trying to say that MU (A) could have done better or (B) the basketball schools should have stayed with the american12 is simply delusional. This is the best deal MU and the rest of the basketball-only schools was going to get. And it is better to no longer be at the whim of football.
Quote from: The Sultan of Silly on March 10, 2013, 05:30:43 PM
Then just wait till their coaches can no longer promise potential recruits playing time against big stage opponents like Syracuse, Louisville, Pitt, ND, West Virginia, etc.. ::) ?-( I got sick of counting all the prime empty seats when watching MU play Seton Hall this year and can only imagine how many empty seats there will be when they can only sign 1 and 2 star recruits when dogs like Creighton, Xavier, Dayton and St. Louis are added as "replacements" to the ticket buying public.
Well unfortunately the board boobs that populate and try to dominate the thinking of this site and say Detroit Mercy would be an exciting potential addition with a straight face aren't as clueless as the rest the US population where more than 50% of them acknowledge the new conference (see attached) will be considered mid-major or worse. That is especially scary in that over 50% of the population was dumb enough to vote for Obama twice so were not talking about a very savvy pubic.
Smart "mid-major" retailers like the "Limited" used to sign leases in sub-tenant locations with major anchors in place knowing the major anchors like Nordstrom, for example, would draw in tenants to the mall and they in turn would feed off the anchor's superior advertising and branding capabilities. So instead of keeping close to these big football/state "anchor" type of schools like UConn, Cincy, with a history of Final 4's and McDonald All American's, etc. our AD and our board shun even the idea of having them for a couple more years so we can add more worthless mid-majors that will ensure the ultimate demise of MU Basketball back to it's sad late 1980's status.
Why don't we just let Buzz go to the next major Big 4 conference job, let our star recruits out of their letters of intent and hire Brian Wardle and be prepared for a move back to the Mecca with close losses to UW-Milwaukee already. The Big 4 conferences will soon shun the NCAA and create their own National Championship for basketball and we'll be completely left out so we might as well be resigned to our fate sooner than later.
Such a shame as it was so much fun playing in the real Big East (AKA - The Beast) and now we will be left to a bunch of other teams with a fading star who won't be able to attract and retain the brightest coaches and players like they did in the past. Poor leadership and changes in the college basketball landscape that were out of our control are the two primary culprits to this sickening and sad ultimate demise.
Dumb-arse.
This is the link
http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/post/_/id/9032205/brighter-future-big-east-divorce
If you look at the second poll, and answer that one, the fans believe the left over Big East (America 12) will be a high major conference.
This is a classic example of the dumbing down of America and the low information voter. They don't even know who is in the leagues, simple as that.
Actually a high Mid major conference. Agree with your general sentiment though. The difference is will ESPN promote America 12 the way FOX will promote the Big East?
Quote from: The Sultan of Silly on March 10, 2013, 05:30:43 PM
is especially scary in that over 50% of the population was dumb enough to vote for Obama twice so were not talking about a very savvy pubic.
Basketball and politics have nothing to do with each other, if you're still Butt-hurt about Obama winning, stop attributing the results to race or voter knowledge. Only 1/3rd of the country actually voted.
Troll.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on March 10, 2013, 05:37:17 PM
It's just keefe/warthog, etc. trying to troll me.
Not gonna work.
No, it's not you rapscallion.
Quote from: wadesworld on March 10, 2013, 06:08:55 PM
Georgetown, Marquette, Villinova, Butler, Creighton, SLU. 6 teams that are going to be in the conference in 2 years are solidly in the NCAA Tournament this year. That's 50% of the league. The number of bids and the percentages of teams from the conference going to the NCAA Tournament would equal that of every conference except for maybe the top 2, possibly the top 3 in the country. Some people are just silly talking about "mid-major." Fox is going to pony up this much money to get a mid-major conference on their network? Likely.
Not to mention I expect Xavier, St. John's, and Providence to be in the running for NCAA Tournament bids next year, and who knows who team #12 will be? Maybe it's VCU, which would make it bid #7.
I too have my concerns. Anyone that thinks this new conference will be anywhere near as strong as the old Big East is delusional. Yes, the conference would prove to be very strong THIS year with the new additions, but how consistent will those other teams be?? I don't worry about MU, they have proven their worth, and will carry their weight...8th consecutive year of being in the NCAAs. Not even Nova or Georgetown can say that. The bottom part of this conference is very weak(SH, DePaul etc) and there are no guarantees they will turn it around soon, if ever. Will SLU stay consistent?? I have my doubts. Or Butler?? Or even Xavier?? There are definitely things to be concerned about as far as the image of this conference goes going forward.
So, Guru, please list a preferred alternative.
Our new conference will be solid but no way is it anywhere near as good as the old Big East. We were very fortunate to have been part of the best hoops conference in the modern era. The new Big East is not in any way a mid major and should be extremely competitive. I remain concerned about PC, SHU, DePaul, and SJU upping their game. 40% of our new conference behave as mid majors.
I still don't understand how Illinois got so much better than us.
Quote from: The Sultan of Silly on March 10, 2013, 05:30:43 PM
Then just wait till their coaches can no longer promise potential recruits playing time against big stage opponents like Syracuse, Louisville, Pitt, ND, West Virginia, etc.. ::) ?-( I got sick of counting all the prime empty seats when watching MU play Seton Hall this year and can only imagine how many empty seats there will be when they can only sign 1 and 2 star recruits when dogs like Creighton, Xavier, Dayton and St. Louis are added as "replacements" to the ticket buying public.
Well unfortunately the board boobs that populate and try to dominate the thinking of this site and say Detroit Mercy would be an exciting potential addition with a straight face aren't as clueless as the rest the US population where more than 50% of them acknowledge the new conference (see attached) will be considered mid-major or worse. That is especially scary in that over 50% of the population was dumb enough to vote for Obama twice so were not talking about a very savvy pubic.
Smart "mid-major" retailers like the "Limited" used to sign leases in sub-tenant locations with major anchors in place knowing the major anchors like Nordstrom, for example, would draw in tenants to the mall and they in turn would feed off the anchor's superior advertising and branding capabilities. So instead of keeping close to these big football/state "anchor" type of schools like UConn, Cincy, with a history of Final 4's and McDonald All American's, etc. our AD and our board shun even the idea of having them for a couple more years so we can add more worthless mid-majors that will ensure the ultimate demise of MU Basketball back to it's sad late 1980's status.
Why don't we just let Buzz go to the next major Big 4 conference job, let our star recruits out of their letters of intent and hire Brian Wardle and be prepared for a move back to the Mecca with close losses to UW-Milwaukee already. The Big 4 conferences will soon shun the NCAA and create their own National Championship for basketball and we'll be completely left out so we might as well be resigned to our fate sooner than later.
Such a shame as it was so much fun playing in the real Big East (AKA - The Beast) and now we will be left to a bunch of other teams with a fading star who won't be able to attract and retain the brightest coaches and players like they did in the past. Poor leadership and changes in the college basketball landscape that were out of our control are the two primary culprits to this sickening and sad ultimate demise.
(https://crackinfilms.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/ww.jpg)
Does this guy know how to party or what!?!?
MU, Nova and Georgetown will be very good next year. Providence get Ricky Ledo and a great returning bunch...they are on the bubble this season. Butler may be a bit down next but has a good class coming in. Xavier returns a lot. Creighton is in the big dance and may have McDermott back to play on a more national stage with his dad in Year 1. St. John's returns everyone on a NIT team.
This year, up to six NCAA teams out of 10. Next year, perhaps the same.
Quote from: keefe on March 10, 2013, 07:12:23 PM
Our new conference will be solid but no way is it anywhere near as good as the old Big East. We were very fortunate to have been part of the best hoops conference in the modern era. The new Big East is not in any way a mid major and should be extremely competitive. I remain concerned about PC, SHU, DePaul, and SJU upping their game. 40% of our new conference behave as mid majors.
I can agree with this, but most conferences have shitty team at the bottom. In fact, all of them do. This will be a top 5 conference year in and year out, and in the top 3 most years. Is that the Old Beast? No. But it is still pretty damn good.
Quote from: tower912 on March 10, 2013, 07:00:54 PM
So, Guru, please list a preferred alternative.
I would have liked to see UCONN, Cincy, Memphis and Temple at least approached about the idea of joining. Please, spare me the "no more football" refrain. They could park their FB elsewhere, then it's like they don't have football.
They aren't going to any major conference...no one wants those FB programs, and besides, you make them sign a grant of rights and make it a moot point. I also wanted to see Gonzaga. Geography be damned in their case. It's not like you are going there more than once a year. Bite the bullet and do it. The value they could have brought to the conference would have been immeasurable to me.
Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on March 10, 2013, 07:35:10 PM
I can agree with this, but most conferences have crapty team at the bottom. In fact, all of them do. This will be a top 5 conference year in and year out, and in the top 3 most years. Is that the Old Beast? No. But it is still pretty damn good.
That's true. But in the Big Ten, the teams on the bottom have their seasons. Iowa, Minnesota, Purdue and even Northwestern have been competitive every few years. Almost half of our teams have not been goof for decades. I would like to see the bottom 4 be competitive from time to time.
Quote from: muguru on March 10, 2013, 07:44:38 PM
I would have liked to see UCONN, Cincy, Memphis and Temple at least approached about the idea of joining. Please, spare me the "no more football" refrain. They could park their FB elsewhere, then it's like they don't have football.
They aren't going to any major conference...no one wants those FB programs, and besides, you make them sign a grant of rights and make it a moot point. I also wanted to see Gonzaga. Geography be damned in their case. It's not like you are going there more than once a year. Bite the bullet and do it. The value they could have brought to the conference would have been immeasurable to me.
Agreed. However, it seems to me that these schools have this fantastical idea that they will rise up and rival the SEC or at least mimic the financial success that it has had from having a football-first mindset. I wish these schools would relegate their football to the MAC and realize the gains from specialization that await them in basketball.
Quote from: keefe on March 10, 2013, 06:57:55 PM
No, it's not you a$$wipe.
Welp, I think you are lying....and if I'm wrong you aren't getting an apology.
Quote from: keefe on March 10, 2013, 07:49:05 PM
That's true. But in the Big Ten, the teams on the bottom have their seasons. Iowa, Minnesota, Purdue and even Northwestern have been competitive every few years. Almost half of our teams have not been goof for decades. I would like to see the bottom 4 be competitive from time to time.
Cooley is a winner and he's from Providence and I think he will stay there for a while and get that program going in the right direction. Saint John's is young and talented and Lavin can recruit. Assuming he stays healthy, I think they will be good for a while. MU, Nova, Georgetown, Butler and Xavier are consistently very good. It's really just Seton Hall and DePaul that appear to be weak for the foreseeable future.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on March 10, 2013, 08:08:37 PM
Welp, I think you are lying....and if I'm wrong you aren't getting an apology.
What a tough guy. Crawl back into your hole. Bullies are nothing more than cowards.
Break it up.
.. is DePaul a mid-major?
Quote from: CTWarrior on March 10, 2013, 08:10:03 PM
Cooley is a winner and he's from Providence and I think he will stay there for a while and get that program going in the right direction. Saint John's is young and talented and Lavin can recruit. Assuming he stays healthy, I think they will be good for a while. MU, Nova, Georgetown, Butler and Xavier are consistently very good. It's really just Seton Hall and DePaul that appear to be weak for the foreseeable future.
I am optimistic about SJU and PC and am hoping Purnell can pull it off, despite his boss. SHU doesn't seem to be in the game at all, however.
Quote from: keefe on March 10, 2013, 08:10:19 PM
What a tough guy. Crawl back into your hole. Bullies are nothing more than cowards.
Can you guys just agree to meet up at the bike racks after school and settle this like fourth graders?
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 10, 2013, 06:43:08 PM
This is the link
http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/post/_/id/9032205/brighter-future-big-east-divorce
If you look at the second poll, and answer that one, the fans believe the left over Big East (America 12) will be a high major conference.
This is a classic example of the dumbing down of America and the low information voter. They don't even know who is in the leagues, simple as that.
As of SUnday, 9:45pm EDT:
How will the Catholic 7 Big East rate as a basketball conference:
34% Major Power Conference
50% High-Level Mid-Major Conference
16% Low-Level Mid-Major Conference
(3,765 votes)
How will the Big East's football holdovers rate as a basketball conference?
12% Major Power Conference
46% High-Level Mid-Major Conference
42% Low-Level Mid-Major Conference
(3,403 votes)
To which conference will the Big East football holdovers most closely compare?
25% ACC
39% MWC
24% MAC
12% Sun Belt
(3,265 votes)
Which league from the Big East's breakup has a brighter long-term future?
74% Catholic 7 Big East
26% Football-playing Big East holdovers
(3,472 votes)
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on March 10, 2013, 05:37:17 PM
It's just keefe/warthog, etc. trying to troll me.
Not gonna work.
Someone is trolling you, but doesn't fit the keefe/warthog profile. The prose isn't grand enough, and a clever email address was not visible on the profile. Those characteristics have proven to be fairly consistent.
Quote from: jt92 on March 10, 2013, 06:01:49 PM
I have to tell you that as pumped up as I am about this year's team there is a knot in my stomach regarding the future. The reason we are so pumped about this year is becasue we beat some of the best the nation has to offer. SU, PITT, ND, UConn.. We tied Lousiville for the title. That competition is gone now. So while some feel that it is no big deal that we are replacing these team with mid majors (fact), I think it is. This is about the future and I am sorry these new teams just don't add up. If Buzz leaves I can't wait to hear what the excuse from so many people is..
I have to agree. With the new league our ceiling will be no higher than Gonzaga's this year.
Doubt it is Keefe. He wouldn't be bashful about staking his name to his opinion.
BTW, PC is comin' on and will be a handful.
Quote from: jt92 on March 10, 2013, 06:01:49 PM
I have to tell you that as pumped up as I am about this year's team there is a knot in my stomach regarding the future. The reason we are so pumped about this year is becasue we beat some of the best the nation has to offer. SU, PITT, ND, UConn.. We tied Lousiville for the title. That competition is gone now. So while some feel that it is no big deal that we are replacing these team with mid majors (fact), I think it is. This is about the future and I am sorry these new teams just don't add up. If Buzz leaves I can't wait to hear what the excuse from so many people is..
I personally look forward to winning more league championships.
Quote from: mu_hilltopper on March 10, 2013, 08:20:50 PM
Break it up.
.. is DePaul a mid-major?
DePaul is a mid-major. Right now they have no business being in a high major conference. They are a joke.
Quote from: keefe on March 10, 2013, 11:47:05 PM
DePaul is a mid-major. Right now they have no business being in a high major conference. They are a joke.
Is Nebraska mid-major? What about TCU? Texas Tech? Penn St? Wazzou? Oregon St? Miss St? Auburn? Pointing out that there are really bad teams in a conference is stupid and pointless.
Even though Depaul is pretty bad right now I really do see potential for them. Melvin is good, Brandon Young, Jamie Crockett and Charles Mckinney are all only sophomores and they are good players and Kirk isn't awful. They really should be better than they are, I think they can surprise the league in a couple years.
Quote from: esard2011 on March 11, 2013, 01:20:59 AM
Even though Depaul is pretty bad right now I really do see potential for them. Melvin is good, Brandon Young, Jamie Crockett and Charles Mckinney are all only sophomores and they are good players and Kirk isn't awful. They really should be better than they are, I think they can surprise the league in a couple years.
At this point it would be hard for them to disappoint.
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on March 11, 2013, 01:33:01 AM
At this point it would be hard for them to disappoint.
Carl Jung said, "A beautiful woman is a source of terror. As a rule, a beautiful woman is a terrible disappointment."
Kafka wrote,"disappointment gave way to disillusionment which turned to despair. Bone crushing, soul searing despair."
Quote from: esard2011 on March 11, 2013, 01:20:59 AM
Even though Depaul is pretty bad right now I really do see potential for them.
I've been hearing that for 20+ years now.
Quote from: muguru on March 10, 2013, 07:44:38 PM
I would have liked to see UCONN, Cincy, Memphis and Temple at least approached about the idea of joining. Please, spare me the "no more football" refrain. They could park their FB elsewhere, then it's like they don't have football.
They aren't going to any major conference...no one wants those FB programs, and besides, you make them sign a grant of rights and make it a moot point. I also wanted to see Gonzaga. Geography be damned in their case. It's not like you are going there more than once a year. Bite the bullet and do it. The value they could have brought to the conference would have been immeasurable to me.
The numbers don't work for Gonzaga. Also, MU had to lobby hard to get Creighton in. East coast C-7 schools didn't want to cross the Mississippi. As to football, football wrecked the Big East. Any team with decent football got grabbed by somebody else. Pitt, Syracuse, WVU, Louisville, and ND aren't walking back through that door. And UConn and Cinci have been begging the ACC to take them. To reset a conference and include a couple of schools who are already looking for a way out is like marrying somebody even though you know they don't think you are good enough and are looking for someone hotter. So the C7 removed football from the equation and got the best basketball-only schools they could within a geographic footprint. Smart. I am grateful you weren't the one negotiating.
Quote from: muguru on March 10, 2013, 07:44:38 PM
I would have liked to see UCONN, Cincy, Memphis and Temple at least approached about the idea of joining. Please, spare me the "no more football" refrain. They could park their FB elsewhere, then it's like they don't have football.
Well, not really. Just because you don't see their football team, that doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Furthermore they still would have primary interest in promoting their football team and would let the future of that program determine their conference affiliation.
Quote from: muguru on March 10, 2013, 07:44:38 PM
I would have liked to see UCONN, Cincy, Memphis and Temple at least approached about the idea of joining. Please, spare me the "no more football" refrain. They could park their FB elsewhere, then it's like they don't have football.
They aren't going to any major conference...no one wants those FB programs, and besides, you make them sign a grant of rights and make it a moot point. I also wanted to see Gonzaga. Geography be damned in their case. It's not like you are going there more than once a year. Bite the bullet and do it. The value they could have brought to the conference would have been immeasurable to me.
They might have been "approached" a long time ago (unofficially)... My bet is that they weren't interested.
Memphis worrying about their basketball team would be like MU worrying about their Lacrosse team.
They are only worried about football. Everything else will take care of itself.
It's about $. $.$.$.$.
It's impossible to argue this conference will be better the current Big East right off the bat. However, it's not nearly as bad as some here are saying. Lets not forget that Xavier is a MAJOR addition. One of the most successful programs over the last 10 years with consistent deep runs in the tourney. They lost Mark Lyons and Dezmine Wells this year. That's comparable to us without Blue and Wilson. They will be fine going forward.
St. Johns is also going to be a top 25 team next year and could become one of the faces of the league if Lavin can continue to bring in big time recruits. MU, Nova, GT very good programs, maybe not in terms of perennial National Champion contenders like the BE has had in the past, but great tradition there. In my mind it really comes down to DePaul, Providence and Seton Hall. These programs are the key to rebuilding the conference as the premier basketball league.
Lets not forget that if everything had remained status quo, MU would have conference games with Tulane and SMU in their future, all to appease the god of college football. And Syracuse, Pitt, Louisville and ND were leaving. This is better.
Quote from: tower912 on March 11, 2013, 09:35:05 AM
Lets not forget that if everything had remained status quo, MU would have conference games with Tulane and SMU in their future, all to appease the god of college football. And Syracuse, Pitt, Louisville and ND were leaving. This is better.
+1
I particularly hate the shots at Obama in this. No matter what your political leanings- just stupid to bring this stuff up in a sports column... I get so aggravated by posters everywhere trying to bring their political stances into everything. Really annoying!
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 10, 2013, 06:43:08 PM
This is the link
http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/post/_/id/9032205/brighter-future-big-east-divorce
If you look at the second poll, and answer that one, the fans believe the left over Big East (America 12) will be a high major conference.
This is a classic example of the dumbing down of America and the low information voter. They don't even know who is in the leagues, simple as that.
Definitely a "Rush Limbaugh" conservative. I listen too.
Quote from: robertoc on March 11, 2013, 11:00:14 AM
I particularly hate the shots at Obama in this. No matter what your political leanings- just stupid to bring this stuff up in a sports column... I get so aggravated by posters everywhere trying to bring their political stances into everything. Really annoying!
What am I missing? I don't see him mentioned 1 time in this thread. Other than when you did.
Quote from: robertoc on March 11, 2013, 11:00:14 AM
I particularly hate the shots at Obama in this. No matter what your political leanings- just stupid to bring this stuff up in a sports column... I get so aggravated by posters everywhere trying to bring their political stances into everything. Really annoying!
I blame Bush for poisoning our political atmosphere.
Don't worry everyone...if Buzz were to leave we could always offer Michelle Obama's brother Craig Robinson a job. He is doing one heck of a job at Oregon State. Thus, even if we lose we can all feel good about ourselves!
Quote from: MU B2002 on March 11, 2013, 12:17:49 PM
What am I missing? I don't see him mentioned 1 time in this thread. Other than when you did.
"Well unfortunately the board boobs that populate and try to dominate the thinking of this site and say Detroit Mercy would be an exciting potential addition with a straight face aren't as clueless as the rest the US population where more than 50% of them acknowledge the new conference (see attached) will be considered mid-major or worse. That is especially scary in that over 50% of the population was dumb enough to vote for Obama twice so were not talking about a very savvy pubic. "
That part...
Yep. Missed that.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on March 10, 2013, 05:37:17 PM
It's just keefe/warthog, etc. trying to troll me.
Not gonna work.
Definitely Keefe. The solid writing + business analysis might as well be a photograph of him.
Quote from: Avenue Commons on March 12, 2013, 11:00:59 AM
Definitely Keefe. The solid writing + business analysis might as well be a photograph of him.
Sorry. Commons. I have no problem signing my work. If you read through that piece you will note it is not in my style. For instance, I would never use as banal a term as "Board Boobs." There are far more eloquent ways to articulate that sentiment.
Quote from: keefe on March 12, 2013, 11:49:39 AM
Sorry. Commons. I have no problem signing my work. If you read through that piece you will note it is not in my style. For instance, I would never use as banal a term as "Board Boobs." There are far more eloquent ways to articulate that sentiment.
"Forum funbags"?
Quote from: Avenue Commons on March 12, 2013, 11:00:59 AM
Definitely Keefe. The solid writing + business analysis might as well be a photograph of him.
I actually just read the OP for the first time. The author cites The Limited's retail traffic strategy but the pioneer of that was PepsiCo. There is an HBS case on Competitive Traffic Analysis which cites the significant investment in Site Planning and Traffic Flow made by McDonald's and Starbucks. Both companies apply different parameters as target demographic consumption patterns are different and vary by market but both have mastered this domain and use the intelligence for rooftop specific portfolio and pricing. McDonald's spends heavily to understand traffic patterns and knows which street corner is optimal by time of day and customer interaction. PepsiCo watched McDonald's invest heavily in creating the requisite metrics then apply the methodology in the field. A strategic decision was made by PepsiCo to forgo making that same investment and simply bracket the McDonald's with Pizza Huts, KFC's, and Taco Bells. Brilliant move that saved tens of millions each year and enabled them to cannibalize through diversity and saturation.
I would disagree that The Limited had the idea of parasitic retail siting as that is precisely the purpose of the large regional mall. Each mall has 4 anchor tenants and space is sold based on proximity to those anchors. What Wexner did was he built a stable of niche brands - The Limited was for young women, Victoria's Secret, Limited Too for younger women, A&F for teens, Bath & Body Works that saturated space around the anchors. In many cases Wexner had multiples of a brand with different product and pricing - ie The Limited outside Lord & Taylor had a different portfolio than The Limited outside Penneys.
Quote from: keefe on March 12, 2013, 12:16:08 PM
A&F for teens
https://www.youtube.com/v/NHuGG_FsC20
Quote from: CaptainAwesome on March 12, 2013, 01:40:39 PM
https://www.youtube.com/v/NHuGG_FsC20
This is the best post in the thread so far.
Carry on.