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Title: MU #15 This week. Zags #1
Post by: keefe on March 04, 2013, 11:04:50 AM
MU up 7 spots to 15th.

Zags earn top spot

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/rankings
Title: Re: MU #15 This week. Zags #1
Post by: 🏀 on March 04, 2013, 11:05:54 AM
Pretty good on-going weekly discussion of this right here: http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=29770.msg460774;topicseen#new
Title: Re: MU #15 This week. Zags #1
Post by: Goose on March 04, 2013, 11:08:35 AM
Crazy season for sure. Who knows maybe we crack top ten in next couple of weeks. You really watch closely this year to know who is ranked where. Must give credit to MU because unlike some teams we have been fairly steady last few weeks.
Title: Re: MU #15 This week. Zags #1
Post by: JD on March 04, 2013, 11:18:59 AM
MSU loses 3 in a row and are still a top 10 team?  Wow.. :o
Title: Re: MU #15 This week. Zags #1
Post by: keefe on March 04, 2013, 11:21:34 AM
MSU loses 3 in a row and are still a top 10 team?  Wow.. :o

Illustrates the power of an established Brand.
Title: Re: MU #15 This week. Zags #1
Post by: Stronghold on March 04, 2013, 11:25:53 AM
Does anyone think the Zags have to win their conference tournament to still get a #1 seed in the tournament?
Title: Re: MU #15 This week. Zags #1
Post by: JD on March 04, 2013, 11:27:09 AM
Does anyone think the Zags have to win their conference tournament to still get a #1 seed in the tournament?

Absolutely
Title: Re: MU #15 This week. Zags #1
Post by: Groin_pull on March 04, 2013, 11:27:51 AM
Does anyone think the Zags have to win their conference tournament to still get a #1 seed in the tournament?

Absolutely. Some schools (see MSU above) get every benefit of the doubt. Others can't afford a single slip up. Gonzaga would fit in this category.
Title: Re: MU #15 This week. Zags #1
Post by: jficke13 on March 04, 2013, 11:31:25 AM
That and the fact that if an ACC/Big? team that was in line for a #1 seed slipped an lost in their conference tourney, presumably it would be against a quality opponent, which would hurt them less. If the Zags slip up in their conference tourney, it likely would be against a less than quality opponent, which would hurt them more.
Title: Re: MU #15 This week. Zags #1
Post by: LAMUfan on March 04, 2013, 11:31:35 AM
we are 5-3 against the current top 25 this year right?  that's not bad at all
Title: Re: MU #15 This week. Zags #1
Post by: Dawson Rental on March 04, 2013, 11:31:59 AM
Ohio State is 14, Marquette is 15, both with identical 21-7 records.  One of us should have an eighth loss, though.
Title: Re: MU #15 This week. Zags #1
Post by: Clam Crowder on March 04, 2013, 11:38:46 AM
I believe Ohio State has only beaten 2 ranked teams. I would be more angry about them being ranked higher than us if those 2 teams were not #2 and #4 at the time of the victories. I still feel like we should be higher than them but we are Marquette and they are Ohio State so it is what it is.
Title: Re: MU #15 This week. Zags #1
Post by: keefe on March 04, 2013, 11:43:32 AM
Ohio State is 14, Marquette is 15, both with identical 21-7 records.  One of us should have an eighth loss, though.

The blue mountains are of themselves blue mountains

The white clouds are of themselves white clouds

A man can touch the blue mountain

The white cloud is a chimera


Ohio State is the mountain they have climbed. Its dirt clings to their shoes. It stands there before them still.

Marquette is the cloud they have seen but not held. It has drifted away. No longer is it in their world.
Title: Re: MU #15 This week. Zags #1
Post by: Tugg Speedman on March 04, 2013, 11:50:16 AM
MU #15 and wins at Rutgers and @SJU.  Never take these games for granted but doable then ...

#14 tOSU @IU Tuesday night
#13 Okla State at home to #9 KSU Wednesday night
#12 New Mexico @ Nevada and @AF
#11 Florida @Kentucky Saturday
#10 Mich State home against Bucky Wednesday night ...

I see lots of opportunity for teams ahead of us to lose this week.  Could we be #12 or #13 next week and looking at a 3 seed for the NCAA tourney going into the BE tourney?

Answer, yes ... so long as we do not choke this week.  If we do, the mods can delete this post.
Title: Re: MU #15 This week. Zags #1
Post by: BM1090 on March 04, 2013, 11:52:45 AM
we are 5-3 against the current top 25 this year right?  that's not bad at all

6-3 by my count.

Georgetown 1-1
Louisville 0-1
Florida 0-1
Syracuse 1-0
Pittsburgh 2-0
Wisconsin 1-0
Notre Dame 1-0

6-3
Title: Re: MU #15 This week. Zags #1
Post by: NavinRJohnson on March 04, 2013, 12:05:21 PM
MSU loses 3 in a row and are still a top 10 team?  Wow.. :o

Why shouldn't they be? To say they don't deserve that ranking means you have to come up with the teams that should be ranked ahead of them. Outside of Florida, I don't think I  see any, and in fact, I don't see any reason Kansas State should be ahead of them.
Title: Re: MU #15 This week. Zags #1
Post by: Niv Berkowitz on March 04, 2013, 12:39:25 PM
I wish I didn't watch that MU/Florida game. I know we are a totally different team now IMHO, but man, that beat-down just won't leave my mind and I just know I'm going to put Florida in the Final Four regardless of what bracket they are in.
Title: Re: MU #15 This week. Zags #1
Post by: WI inferiority Complexes on March 04, 2013, 12:44:38 PM
I wish I didn't watch that MU/Florida game. I know we are a totally different team now IMHO, but man, that beat-down just won't leave my mind and I just know I'm going to put Florida in the Final Four regardless of what bracket they are in.


I feel the exact same way.
Of course, I just recently got over the way Vanderbilt whipped us at home 25 games ago.
Title: Re: MU #15 This week. Zags #1
Post by: brewcity77 on March 04, 2013, 01:22:16 PM
Does anyone think the Zags have to win their conference tournament to still get a #1 seed in the tournament?

At the minimum. I think they have to go back and improve their strength of schedule, too. They don't deserve a 1-seed even if they win out.
Title: Re: MU #15 This week. Zags #1
Post by: Windyplayer on March 04, 2013, 01:25:11 PM
I feel the exact same way.
Of course, I just recently got over the way Vanderbilt whipped us at home 25 games ago.
Cincy was our last loss at home, but I had the privilege of being at both games.
Title: Re: MU #15 This week. Zags #1
Post by: Silkk the Shaka on March 04, 2013, 01:31:20 PM
Cincy was our last loss at home, but I had the privilege of being at both games.

Cincy was our last Big East loss at home, but the last home loss was Vandy in December 2011.
Title: Re: MU #15 This week. Zags #1
Post by: MU82 on March 04, 2013, 02:06:09 PM
15 seems pretty dead-on. Hard to quibble with any team ranked ahead of us today.

Not that it matters, but the asst SIDs who vote in the coaches' poll have us 17th ... behind Syracuse and St. Louis.
Title: Re: MU #15 This week. Zags #1
Post by: muwarrior97 on March 04, 2013, 02:10:55 PM
G-Town getting alot of love, they always kill my bracket in March so might not fall for the March love this year
Title: Re: MU #15 This week. Zags #1
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on March 04, 2013, 02:28:43 PM
MSU loses 3 in a row and are still a top 10 team?  Wow.. :o

Look who they lost to and where.  Do you not think MSU is a top 10 team?
Title: Re: MU #15 This week. Zags #1
Post by: keefe on March 04, 2013, 02:42:45 PM
Look who they lost to and where.  Do you not think MSU is a top 10 team?

I think they are a Top 8-15 team. The Izzo Brand inflates their standing, as always.

This is a funny year. A Top 20 team can beat anybody and lose to anybody this season. Just bizarre the number of upsets. It's good for the game, though. Reinforces why it is so much better than the NBA.
Title: Re: MU #15 This week. Zags #1
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on March 04, 2013, 02:44:04 PM
I think they are a Top 8-15 team. The Izzo Brand inflates their standing, as always.

This is a funny year. A Top 20 team can beat anybody and lose to anybody this season. Just bizarre the number of upsets. It's good for the game, though. Reinforces why it is so much better than the NBA.

I'd take MSU over Gonzaga right now

Title: Re: MU #15 This week. Zags #1
Post by: keefe on March 04, 2013, 02:46:20 PM
I'd take MSU over Gonzaga right now



Man, I'm sure you've watched the world-wide leader today. It's been a Gonzaga/Mark Few love fest all morning. The pundits would disagree with you.
Title: Re: MU #15 This week. Zags #1
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on March 04, 2013, 02:50:33 PM
Man, I'm sure you've watched the world-wide leader today. It's been a Gonzaga/Mark Few love fest all morning. The pundits would disagree with you.

ESPN?  As the wind blows.  Do they still have New England in the Super Bowl? 

It should be a love fest for them, first time Zags get to #1, they don't play anyone in the next 4 games...it's a nice story. 

If #8 RPI Michigan State took on #9 RPI Gonzaga today, I would take Michigan State.  Their #4 schedule shows they have been tested and test often.  At Michigan, At Wisconsin, at IU, home to IU, Kansas, at Ohio State, home to Ohio State, home to Michigan, home to Wisconsin, etc.   I'll take that vs the 74th tested Zags.  Doesn't mean the Zags aren't good, but I'm taking the Spartans in that game.
Title: Re: MU #15 This week. Zags #1
Post by: MU82 on March 04, 2013, 02:52:02 PM
Wait ... ESPN isn't talking about Tim Tebow?
Title: Re: MU #15 This week. Zags #1
Post by: wojosdojo on March 04, 2013, 03:18:43 PM
Wait ... ESPN isn't talking about Tim Tebow?

..or the Heat?
Title: Re: MU #15 This week. Zags #1
Post by: LAMUfan on March 04, 2013, 03:58:22 PM
6-3 by my count.

Georgetown 1-1
Louisville 0-1
Florida 0-1
Syracuse 1-0
Pittsburgh 2-0
Wisconsin 1-0
Notre Dame 1-0

6-3

haha, i have no idea why i didn't count Wisconsin, Freudian slip