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Title: Big East, Catholic 7 continue “exit” talks
Post by: Warrior_2002 on February 27, 2013, 03:32:44 PM
http://ajerseyguy.com/?p=5326#more-5326

Looks like the news could be coming soon with everyone now focused on "the separation".  Wouldn't it make for a better conference by just adding St. Louis, Creighton and Dayton along with Butler and Xavier?  Seems so obvious.  All this talk about travel costs for non-revenue sports seems ridiculous.  We travel to South Florida now.  Seems so easy for Georgetown to travel to Creighton.  
Title: Re: Big East, Catholic 7 continue “exit” talks
Post by: Warriors10 on February 27, 2013, 03:33:50 PM
Why did you make a new topic, we have millions of threads on this.

Edit: well now you added a link lol.
Title: Re: Big East, Catholic 7 continue “exit” talks
Post by: Warrior_2002 on February 27, 2013, 03:36:30 PM
yeah I went back. you're quick.  Sorry about that. didn't see this article out there.  this guys seems to have some good insight.
Title: Re: Big East, Catholic 7 continue “exit” talks
Post by: chapman on February 27, 2013, 04:52:29 PM
Quote from: GoldenEagle2002 on February 27, 2013, 03:32:44 PM
http://ajerseyguy.com/?p=5326#more-5326

Looks like the news could be coming soon with everyone now focused on "the separation".  Wouldn't it make for a better conference by just adding St. Louis, Creighton and Dayton Richmond along with Butler and Xavier?  Seems so obvious.  All this talk about travel costs for non-revenue sports seems ridiculous.  We travel to South Florida now.  Seems so easy for Georgetown to travel to Creighton.  

Fixed.
Title: Re: Big East, Catholic 7 continue “exit” talks
Post by: Warrior_2002 on February 27, 2013, 05:04:03 PM
sure that works too.  Just had Dayton since they are Catholic making Butler the only non-catholic university in the 12.
Title: Re: Big East, Catholic 7 continue “exit” talks
Post by: 🏀 on February 27, 2013, 05:10:22 PM
Quote from: chapman on February 27, 2013, 04:52:29 PM
Fixed.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Big East, Catholic 7 continue “exit” talks
Post by: warriorstrack on February 27, 2013, 05:58:45 PM
Jersey Guy:  
Technically, the Catholic 7 could play as a 7 team league next season in basketball, but that would cause scheduling problems. Schools such as Butler, Xavier, Dayton, Saint Louis, Marquette, Richmond and Creighton have emerged as the leading candidates to join the new league. But to do so on such short notice will include severe exit fees from the conferences (primarily the Atlantic 10), which the Catholic 7 schools might be willing to produce.

Marquette?

http://ajerseyguy.com/?p=5347&utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=catholic-7-ready-to-breakaway-now

Jersey guy updated article to remove the "Marquette", must be a fan of muscoop to see his error
Title: Re: Big East, Catholic 7 continue “exit” talks
Post by: nathanziarek on February 27, 2013, 07:14:59 PM
Quote from: warriorstrack on February 27, 2013, 05:58:45 PM
Jersey Guy:  
Technically, the Catholic 7 could play as a 7 team league next season in basketball, but that would cause scheduling problems. Schools such as Butler, Xavier, Dayton, Saint Louis, Marquette, Richmond and Creighton have emerged as the leading candidates to join the new league. But to do so on such short notice will include severe exit fees from the conferences (primarily the Atlantic 10), which the Catholic 7 schools might be willing to produce.

Marquette?

http://ajerseyguy.com/?p=5347&utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=catholic-7-ready-to-breakaway-now
i hope they invite us!
Title: Re: Big East, Catholic 7 continue “exit” talks
Post by: Dawson Rental on February 27, 2013, 08:07:29 PM
"The 10 schools with full voting rights at this time–the Catholic 7, plus South Florida, Central Florida and Connecticut–would receive a substantial amount of that money."

Central Florida has full voting rights, but Cincinnati doesn't??????????????????
Title: Re: Big East, Catholic 7 continue “exit” talks
Post by: keefe on February 27, 2013, 08:13:18 PM
Quote from: warriorstrack on February 27, 2013, 05:58:45 PM
Jersey Guy:  
Technically, the Catholic 7 could play as a 7 team league next season in basketball, but that would cause scheduling problems. Schools such as Butler, Xavier, Dayton, Saint Louis, Marquette, Richmond and Creighton have emerged as the leading candidates to join the new league. But to do so on such short notice will include severe exit fees from the conferences (primarily the Atlantic 10), which the Catholic 7 schools might be willing to produce.

Marquette?

http://ajerseyguy.com/?p=5347&utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=catholic-7-ready-to-breakaway-now

Sh1t. This is disturbing. I thought we were in?
Title: Re: Big East, Catholic 7 continue “exit” talks
Post by: MUMountin on February 27, 2013, 08:51:07 PM
"According to sources familiar with the talks, but not authorized to speak about them, the battle for the Catholic 7 schools–Seton Hall, Georgetown, Marquette, DePaul, Villanova, Providence, and St. John's–is now down to a battle of money.

Big East officials are willing to make this move for 2013 –and sell the Big East name-if enough money is paid to the remaining conference schools.

Negotiations on what that $$ total is are ongoing."

Based on this and the quotes by Williams and the DePaul AD in the Chicago Trib article, sounds like leaving after this season might be more likely than has been recently reported.

Seems to me that maybe the low-ball Big East TV contract for 2013-2014 might have been reason for the C7 to accelerate moving on to next year.  With such a paltry TV contract compared to what Fox is reportedly offering for the new conference, even with negotiating down with the remaining football schools and paying off the A10/MVC, it sounds like maybe the C7 schools are starting to think that it is time to leave now before the clusterf@*# of next year's conference.   Wonder if they'll be able to get all the negotiations done and pull all the logistics of a new conference together in time.
Title: Re: Big East, Catholic 7 continue “exit” talks
Post by: Aughnanure on February 27, 2013, 09:06:09 PM
Let's go. Now.
Title: Re: Big East, Catholic 7 continue “exit” talks
Post by: Aughnanure on February 27, 2013, 09:26:01 PM
It's starting to spread


USA Today
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaab/2013/02/27/catholic-7-schools-anticipate-big-east-departure-soon/1952327/

NY Times
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/28/sports/ncaabasketball/big-east-considers-selling-its-name-to-departing-members.html?_r=1&
Title: Re: Big East, Catholic 7 continue “exit” talks
Post by: The Process on February 28, 2013, 10:09:32 AM
Quote from: warriorstrack on February 27, 2013, 05:58:45 PM
Jersey guy updated article to remove the "Marquette", must be a fan of muscoop to see his error

Or people tweeted the guy to point it out. ;)
Title: Re: Big East, Catholic 7 continue “exit” talks
Post by: MUMountin on February 28, 2013, 10:54:40 AM
I wonder if the $10M Big East basketball contract for next year is regardless of conference membership.  If that's the case (and since it was part of a larger deal, it may be), then this might actually help encourage the C7 to break early, and for the football schools to make it easier for them to leave after the season (in other words, improve our negotiating position).  Splitting that $10M between the remaining 10 or 11 schools after we left would be way better than dividing it up 18 ways. 

If so, then that crappy contract might have actually helped accelerate the whole thing--too low for us to stick around for, and structured in a way to actually grease the wheels for our departure.  Hoping that is the case.  It will be interesting to see, however, what happens to Louisville, ND, and Rutgers if we bolt--including their exit fees.
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