Funny, I don't see that this year.
Buzz on the post game was hysterical. When asked why they are hitting so many, he sarcastically told Homer, "I guess it's because we practice them sooo much." Was great.
They probably moved to the Badger board.
Besides this board, where else was Buzz getting grief for not practicing free throws? That seems to be too inside baseball for anyone that is not hard-core like us posters.
So, was that also an admission that Buzz regularly reads this board?
I think it was a big deal in the JS a few years back. Maybe he reads that comments section.
He did sum it up well this time "making free throws is just about being tough. Are you tough enough to hit it. That's it."
For that matter, where are the student section haters?
BTW my daughter tells me that student section tickets to the ND game are going for 50 bucks apiece. If you don't go to the game, AND you don't sell your ticket, you aren't smart enough to go to Marquette. Sorry.
It stems from the consecutive WVU and Villanova losses where MU had a chance to salt game away at Line and DJO missed like 4 in a row. I believe that Bill Michaels spouted off on WTMJ that Marquette needed to practice free throws if they were going to win.
On the post game Buzz said they don't practice free throws because he thinks the players should be tough enough to make them in the game.
I agree. Don't waste time on free throws.
Good set-up by Mac for that question.
Buzz has it right. You're only allowed so much practice time each week. I would hope we have more complex things to spend our time on than shooting free throws. It's not as if the guys don't pick up a ball and shoot them on their own and then crap their pants when they get fouled in the game.
Maybe they're hanging with the people still unhappy with "the process" and recruiting JUCOs.
Quote from: Pakuni on February 26, 2013, 09:04:59 AM
Maybe they're hanging with the people still unhappy with "the process" and recruiting JUCOs.
We seem to be doing just fine without any JUCOs and they get to stay for 4 years instead of 2.
Quote from: warriorchick on February 26, 2013, 08:17:28 AM
For that matter, where are the student section haters?
BTW my daughter tells me that student section tickets to the ND game are going for 50 bucks apiece. If you don't go to the game, AND you don't sell your ticket, you aren't smart enough to go to Marquette. Sorry.
At 50 bucks I would sell mine and just pick one up the night before for ten. People always think the tickets are hard to get but we all have a friend who is too hungover/needs to study.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on February 26, 2013, 09:10:52 AM
We seem to be doing just fine without any JUCOs and they get to stay for 4 years instead of 2.
Ummm. OK.
Can we agree that all the p*ssing and moaning about Buzz's recruiting of JUCOs from some quarters around here has been shown to be foolish?
As has the p*ssing and moaning about free-throw practice?
Part of this is Buzz just being Buzz.
I'm POSITIVE the guys practice free throws, but they don't do it during organized practice hours (which are limited by the NCAA).
Buzz could clarify that point, but he doesn't because he's poking the media/fans a little bit, with the "We don't practice free throws".
As long as he keeps winning, he can be eccentric as he wants. I like it.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on February 26, 2013, 09:10:52 AM
We seem to be doing just fine without any JUCOs and they get to stay for 4 years instead of 2.
how much of "doing just fine" has to do with recruits seeing the likes of djo, crowder, and jimmy collect money from the league, or from the standard they set as being hard working individuals, or from the sweet 16's they lead us to.
it's amazing that you will complain about anyone that understates TC's impact on our program, yet you make a comment about the success of our current team that doesn't give any respect to those that are responsible for their success...most, including our coach, having strong juco ties. i'll take jimmy, jae, joe, and djo for 2-3 years any day.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on February 26, 2013, 09:10:52 AM
We seem to be doing just fine without any JUCOs and they get to stay for 4 years instead of 2.
I can think of a number of JUCOs who stayed for 3.
Can also think of a lot of non-JUCOs throughout college who stayed for less than 4 years.
Lumping all JUCOs together is an assault on humanity.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on February 26, 2013, 09:10:52 AM
We seem to be doing just fine without any JUCOs and they get to stay for 4 years instead of 2.
We also had a BEast POY & fellow 1st team all-BEast last year from JUCO, and three total NBA picks from JUCO in the last two years. Point is, get great players. If they're from high school, great. If they're from prep school, great. If they're from JUCO, great. If they're from overseas, great. If they're from Wisconsin or Illinois, great. If they're from Texas, California, Virginia, Canada, Tennessee, great. Who cares how they got here or where they come from? If anything, I pull for a JUCO player more because they likely had a tougher path in life. But ultimately that's irrelevant if the guy can't play. I'm glad McKay is joining the team next year, because he seems like a hell of a player.
Quote from: chapman on February 26, 2013, 08:38:27 AM
Buzz has it right. You're only allowed so much practice time each week. I would hope we have more complex things to spend our time on than shooting free throws. It's not as if the guys don't pick up a ball and shoot them on their own and then crap their pants when they get fouled in the game.
Yep. Spend practice time on team concepts. Have the players practice FT's on their own time. If they're motivated to get more PT, they'll practice them on their own time. If they're not, well then they probably won't be getting PT anyway.
And Bo has his teams practice free throws at the end of practices and that approach has done wonders for Ryan Evans.....ooops.....never mind.
Quote from: Pakuni on February 26, 2013, 09:20:33 AM
Ummm. OK.
Can we agree that all the p*ssing and moaning about Buzz's recruiting of JUCOs from some quarters around here has been shown to be foolish?
As has the p*ssing and moaning about free-throw practice?
No. I still think the recruiting of JUCO's is a bad idea for reasons stated over the years. 4 years vs 2 years is one of the major reasons. I can't wait to see Steve Taylor in years 3 and 4. Same for Vander next year. Same for DG. The transition years are their freshman years, not their junior years. Some guys transition really well their junior year while others take half the season. I'd rather they do that their freshman year, build up what they expect from the coach and program so their final two years they are absolutely all on the same page . Better for balance of recruiting classes, better for stability in the program. It's still why most of the top programs go for high school kids and I'm glad Buzz is now doing that.
Yea. Because buzz never went for high school kids before...
Quote from: MU B2002 on February 26, 2013, 06:44:00 PM
Yea. Because buzz never went for high school kids before...
He'll be doing it a lot more now because it makes more sense to do it for the reasons mentioned. It was a short term fix...long term there is a reason why the top programs gravitate toward high school players and OCCASSIONALLY bring in a JUCO.
See though, after Duane Wilson. Im most excited about Jameel McKay next year. Dude is a monster. No problem with the JUCO recruiting.
Quote from: esard2011 on February 26, 2013, 08:27:27 PM
See though, after Duane Wilson. Im most excited about Jameel McKay next year. Dude is a monster. No problem with the JUCO recruiting.
And JJJ and Burton are higher rated than those two. A true monster class coming.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on February 26, 2013, 07:03:05 PM
He'll be doing it a lot more now because it makes more sense to do it for the reasons mentioned. It was a short term fix...long term there is a reason why the top programs gravitate toward high school players and OCCASSIONALLY bring in a JUCO.
It's pretty obvious Buzz likes students at JUCOs because of his connection to them (similar personal story/development). Assuming he continues to bring in a high caliber every year or so, do you think that Buzz's personal beliefs will then be a detriment to his long term coaching potential?
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on February 26, 2013, 06:27:25 PM
No. I still think the recruiting of JUCO's is a bad idea for reasons stated over the years.
Well, Al McGuire would disagree with you. Al lived on JUCO's. Hell, he had deals cut with JUCO coaches who would take non-qualifiers and JV them for Al. And everyone in Div I knew Al was doing this. Frankly, I am inclined to believe Al McGuire a better authority on recruiting JUCO players.
They are all on a cruise ship with the Vander Haters, ship is rolling around with no propulsion and air conditioning somewhere in the gulf of mexico, watching coaching tapes of big bad Bo from his WSP days, swing it baby
Quote from: muwarrior97 on February 26, 2013, 09:49:58 PM
They are all on a cruise ship with the Vander Haters, ship is rolling around with no propulsion and air conditioning somewhere in the gulf of mexico, watching coaching tapes of big bad Bo from his WSP days, swing it baby
After they are done watching the Bo tape, they have to poop in their Bucky duffels and leave them in the hall to get picked up overnight.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on February 26, 2013, 06:27:25 PM
No. I still think the recruiting of JUCO's is a bad idea for reasons stated over the years. 4 years vs 2 years is one of the major reasons. I can't wait to see Steve Taylor in years 3 and 4. Same for Vander next year. Same for DG. The transition years are their freshman years, not their junior years. Some guys transition really well their junior year while others take half the season. I'd rather they do that their freshman year, build up what they expect from the coach and program so their final two years they are absolutely all on the same page . Better for balance of recruiting classes, better for stability in the program. It's still why most of the top programs go for high school kids and I'm glad Buzz is now doing that.
C'mon, Chicos. We both know the opposition to JUCOs had nothing to do with 2 vs 4-year players, stability, etc. For starters, that's not even true. Most of Buzz's JUCOs have been three-year guys and they've provided at least as much stability as the four-year guys, taking transfers into account.
But the reality is that the consternation over JUCOs was almost entirely based on the perception that, because of their status, these kids either lacked the character or intelligence befitting the Marquette uniform.