9:40 mark Cuse is up 51-44 and has momentum. Buzz calls a timeout.
Afterward, J. Wilson takes two wideopen shots, but misses, MU makes free throws, but no field goals in like 5 minutes.
7:48 mark is TV timeout. Buzz takes out Blue and Lockett. Mayo and Taylor come in.
Lineup is Gardner, Junior, Mayo, J. Wilson and Taylor.
Buzz keeps the lineup, being a cohesive unit for the remainder of the game, only subbing Blue for Taylor for a few seconds due to Taylor's free throw shooting. No Otule, Lockett or Blue for almost last 8 minutes.
MU outscores and out hustles Cuse 28 to 18, with five of the Cuse points coming on gimmies at the end.
Sitting your star player for that amount of time, seeing that the team on the floor was working exceptionally well and not making the super subbing like he usually does was way beyond what Buzz goes by.
Nice job
Coming out in the second half with a completely different starting line up and a completely different plan for attacking the zone was also a heck of an in-game adjustment. And Otule sealing people off creating space for DG.....so sweet.
Quote from: tower912 on February 25, 2013, 08:56:53 PM
Coming out in the second half with a completely different starting line up and a completely different plan for attacking the zone was also a heck of an in-game adjustment. And Otule sealing people off creating space for DG.....so sweet.
That worked brilliantly. Very impressive, and glad to see them getting some run together. It won't always be effective, but if you can get it to DG around the top of the key, that can be an effective zone-buster with CO's sealing ability.
This whole year has been his best coaching job. Can't wait to see what he can do with the big time talent and Milwaukee talent coming in!
Quote from: tower912 on February 25, 2013, 08:56:53 PM
Coming out in the second half with a completely different starting line up and a completely different plan for attacking the zone was also a heck of an in-game adjustment.
This.
Just a ballsy move by Buzz. Most coaches are going to hope their leading scorer and minutes getter who had taken 97 more shots than anyone else and an experienced senior who is third in minutes can grind out a win from down 7. Most coaches would have lost. And it's nothing against Blue and Lockett; they've won several games for us and will win more, just wasn't their night.
Smartest coaching decision of the night was going to Thomas. Hadn't done much in a long time. Team struggling, Syracuse packing it in and no one can hit a 3.
Next man up, Thomas comes in completes a 4 pt play. The rest as they say is history
Quote from: forgetful on February 25, 2013, 09:12:10 PM
Smartest coaching decision of the night was going to Thomas. Hadn't done much in a long time. Team struggling, Syracuse packing it in and no one can hit a 3.
Next man up, Thomas comes in completes a 4 pt play. The rest as they say is history
The three was huge by Thomas but I thought Mayo's threes were just as big. I thought he could have played more it the first half.
He really just went with what was working - easier said than done! Buzz did a great job...
nyg ... you beat me to it. I was going to start a post titled: "Buzz coached his a$$ off tonight!"
Not that he doesn't work hard every night. And not that he isn't a heck of a coach. Anybody who has read my crapola since I started posting here would know that. But just as very, very good players have spectacular nights, I think that's how well Buzz coached tonight.
He was willing to try different things when we weren't going well. Then, when we did play well, he didn't make changes just to make changes. He made excellent in-game and halftime adjustments. And he obviously kept the guys' heads in the game even when things didn't look good.
It really was a pleasure to behold.
I remember looking up at one point at it was 53-46. A group of Syracuse fans had just started a "Let's go Orange" chant a section or two over from me and it felt like a frustrating night because every time we made a run to get back in it, they would answer back and get the lead back up to the 7-10 range. Then we went on a run. I looked up a couple minutes later and it was 63-57 Marquette. Todd added a couple free throws and the run ended up at 19-4 to really put us in control. That was incredible, one of the best and most exciting runs I have ever witnessed from a Marquette team.
Awesome job tonight and good to see after the Villanova game, which I think was his worst coached game of the year. Great adjustments tonight.
Quote from: tower912 on February 25, 2013, 08:56:53 PM
Coming out in the second half with a completely different starting line up and a completely different plan for attacking the zone was also a heck of an in-game adjustment.
A privilege we were rarely accorded for most of the aughts. Refreshing. We are damn fortunate to have Buzz Williams as our coach.
"We scored enough points tonight, I just think our defense wasn't good enough, especially our rebounding," Boeheim said before scolding reporters for bringing up subjects he felt were questioning his coaching decisions.
"You ought to know by now that if you start to ask me those questions, I'll just laugh at you," he said. "That's all I'll do. Go get your Pulitzer someplace else."
- at least we dont have this jack-off prick as a coach - championships or not.
He also took a shot at the officials. Do future Hall of Famers do this?
Quote from: bkooncy on February 25, 2013, 09:20:28 PM
The three was huge by Thomas but I thought Mayo's threes were just as big. I thought he could have played more it the first half.
The Jamil wilson three after they hit one was giant!! They had a 7 point lead we get it right back down to 4 with like 5 to play.
Highly entertaining game. Perfect storm last night, folks. Enjoy the ride!
Quote from: CAGASS24 on February 26, 2013, 07:52:46 AM
"We scored enough points tonight, I just think our defense wasn't good enough, especially our rebounding," Boeheim said before scolding reporters for bringing up subjects he felt were questioning his coaching decisions.
"You ought to know by now that if you start to ask me those questions, I'll just laugh at you," he said. "That's all I'll do. Go get your Pulitzer someplace else."
- at least we dont have this jack-off prick as a coach - championships or not.
http://www.foxsportswisconsin.com/02/25/13/Boeheims-emotions-boil-over-after-close-/msn_landing.html?blockID=869983&feedID=5065
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The direction was then changed to ask about Syracuse's final trip to Milwaukee as a conference foe, as the Orange are leaving for the ACC after the season. Boeheim used the question as an opportunity to take a shot at the league.
"It is what it is," Boeheim said. "If they had signed the TV deal for $17 million per school, I guess they are signing one now for about 2.5. That was a good decision. Big East brought it on themselves. Sign the TV deal and nothing would have happened. They were going to get more money? Didn't work out that way."
Translation: Poor baby Boeheim is peeved at the Big East for breaking up, but he has no qualm with continuing his conference affiliation with Pitt - who, incidentally, were largely responsible for the Big East not signing the contract - in moving to the ACC. But don't call out Pitt Jimmie, call out the Big East who were the victims of Syracuse's greed, not the instigator.
That, my friends, is the definition of hypocrisy.
Quote from: CAGASS24 on February 26, 2013, 07:52:46 AM
"We scored enough points tonight, I just think our defense wasn't good enough, especially our rebounding," Boeheim said before scolding reporters for bringing up subjects he felt were questioning his coaching decisions.
"You ought to know by now that if you start to ask me those questions, I'll just laugh at you," he said. "That's all I'll do. Go get your Pulitzer someplace else."
- at least we dont have this jack-off prick as a coach - championships or not.
Corrected.
Quote from: Benny B on February 26, 2013, 09:38:49 AM
http://www.foxsportswisconsin.com/02/25/13/Boeheims-emotions-boil-over-after-close-/msn_landing.html?blockID=869983&feedID=5065
Translation: Poor baby Boeheim is peeved at the Big East for breaking up, but he has no qualm with continuing his conference affiliation with Pitt - who, incidentally, were largely responsible for the Big East not signing the contract - in moving to the ACC. But don't call out Pitt Jimmie, call out the Big East who were the victims of Syracuse's greed, not the instigator.
That, my friends, is the definition of hypocrisy.
Jim is not a bad guy but he can be a real a-hole at times. This wasn't about money for the C-7, Jimmy, it was about the schools' disgust with football running their lives. And, yes, it was the Pitt chancellor who was responsible for the conference turning down the money. Go to the ACC and find out what West Virginia is finding out in the Big 12: No one will care about you when you leave.
Quote from: ecompt on February 26, 2013, 09:53:59 AM
Jim is not a bad guy but he can be a real a-hole at times. This wasn't about money for the C-7, Jimmy, it was about the schools' disgust with football running their lives. And, yes, it was the Pitt chancellor who was responsible for the conference turning down the money. Go to the ACC and find out what West Virginia is finding out in the Big 12: No one will care about you when you leave.
You are an east coast journalist so you have likely seen him over the years - has Boeheim always been so openly hostile or is this just an old dude not holding back? Seems like this is becoming the norm for him but then I don't have your perspective.
BTW, do you know Don Burke, MU J School '78? After graduating Don did HS sports for the Milw Journal then went back to NJ with the Star Ledger. Last I heard he was an editor at the Post. Great guy.
Quote from: DoggyDaddy on February 26, 2013, 08:16:15 AM
He also took a shot at the officials. Do future Hall of Famers do this?
I don't like when coaches take shots at the refs because it lacks class. But I'm guessing a few folks on this board might have had a thing or 10 to say if the Golden Warriors were on the road and were outshot 35-7 on the FT line by the home team.
There were lots of reasons we got 35 FTs and they only got 7, but such a disparity still isn't the sort of thing that visitors (and their fans) enjoy seeing.
Quote from: MU82 on February 26, 2013, 10:20:57 AM
I don't like when coaches take shots at the refs because it lacks class. But I'm guessing a few folks on this board might have had a thing or 10 to say if the Golden Warriors were on the road and were outshot 35-7 on the FT line by the home team.
There were lots of reasons we got 35 FTs and they only got 7, but such a disparity still isn't the sort of thing that visitors (and their fans) enjoy seeing.
funny thing is that at least 14 of those FTs came when Cuse was intentionally fouling.
Yes, as I said, there were many legit reasons for the disparity. But fans (and some coaches) only tend to look at the number.
Quote from: keefe on February 26, 2013, 10:09:22 AM
You are an east coast journalist so you have likely seen him over the years - has Boeheim always been so openly hostile or is this just an old dude not holding back? Seems like this is becoming the norm for him but then I don't have your perspective.
BTW, do you know Don Burke, MU J School '78? After graduating Don did HS sports for the Milw Journal then went back to NJ with the Star Ledger. Last I heard he was an editor at the Post. Great guy.
I know Don's name quite well but have never met him. I covered Big East basketball in the early 1980's and Boeheim was one of the friendliest coaches in the league. I think he much rather prefers the old-school journalism, which was "interview and take notes with a pad and pen." Since everything is out in the Internet world as soon as it happens, Jim has become more crotchety. Last night he was unquestionably rude and unusually uninformed about why the conference is breaking up.
While I agree that Buzz made quite a few good coaching decisions last night..I also think he made a few bad ones.
I can't remember exactly how much time was left in the game...maybe about 5 minutes. Syracuse started to do the 2 man halfcourt trap and MU was forced to take 2 consecutive timeouts. After 2 consecutive timeouts we ended up with Jamil Wilson heaving up a 40 ft. 3 pointer. This is inexcusable in my book, with 2 timeouts Buzz needs to draw something better than that up. I believe one of Buzz' only weakspots is his lack of out of bounds plays when we need a quick basket (the shot clock was at 8 seconds after the second timeout).
Also- what in the hell was going on with that dumbass foul by Junior when MU had 1 to give before Syracuse was in the bonus???? Buzz was screaming at him to foul him and Junior lets the inbound come in and touch fouls at halfcourt for our 6th team foul. What kind of strategy is that? I understand using a foul but why not wait until Syracuse gets into their offense and foul if the guy gets by you?? I have never seen something like that.
1) On topic: I agree, Buzz did a brilliant job last night. It was a great game all-around, including great coaching and adjustments from Buzz. This was good to see especially because I didn't think he did particularly well on Saturday in Philly.
2) Free Throws: I thought the refs allowed a very physical game without calling many fouls last night. DG just did a great job of forcing the issue so they had to make calls. On top of that, it was already mentioned that they fouled us a LOT at the end.
3) Boeheim was being a dick, but he's absolutely right in his comments on the Big East breaking up. "If they had signed the TV deal for $17 million per school... Big East brought it on themselves. Sign the TV deal and nothing would have happened." He can be upset about it, it wasn't his fault personally how it all went down. It's also not his fault if PITT was responsible and that the ACC also invited PITT, and he personally was not the one who decided that his school would continue it's conference affiliation with PITT in the ACC. He also didn't reference the C7 at all, so no reason to bring that up as if he were bashing the C7.
Quote from: MU82 on February 26, 2013, 10:24:29 AM
Yes, as I said, there were many legit reasons for the disparity. But fans (and some coaches) only tend to look at the number.
Here's another reason: MU was giving Syracuse plenty of open looks... kind of hard to foul a guy when you're 5 feet away from him.
Quote from: icheights on February 26, 2013, 11:25:15 AM
While I agree that Buzz made quite a few good coaching decisions last night..I also think he made a few bad ones.
I can't remember exactly how much time was left in the game...maybe about 5 minutes. Syracuse started to do the 2 man halfcourt trap and MU was forced to take 2 consecutive timeouts. After 2 consecutive timeouts we ended up with Jamil Wilson heaving up a 40 ft. 3 pointer. This is inexcusable in my book, with 2 timeouts Buzz needs to draw something better than that up. I believe one of Buzz' only weakspots is his lack of out of bounds plays when we need a quick basket (the shot clock was at 8 seconds after the second timeout).
Also- what in the hell was going on with that dumbass foul by Junior when MU had 1 to give before Syracuse was in the bonus???? Buzz was screaming at him to foul him and Junior lets the inbound come in and touch fouls at halfcourt for our 6th team foul. What kind of strategy is that? I understand using a foul but why not wait until Syracuse gets into their offense and foul if the guy gets by you?? I have never seen something like that.
In your first example, there was under two minutes to play and MU was up 6. MU didn't
need a basket; what they
needed to do was run the shot clock down as far as they could without turning the ball over.
In your second example, I'll just say you're grasping at straws to find fault with Buzz. At most, another 2 seconds would have come off the clock
, but before you would have run the risk of fouling during the act of shooting. Are 3 FT really worth 2 seconds of a game when you have a 5 pt lead with 0:26 remaining?
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Quote from: icheights on February 26, 2013, 11:25:15 AM
While I agree that Buzz made quite a few good coaching decisions last night..I also think he made a few bad ones.
I can't remember exactly how much time was left in the game...maybe about 5 minutes. Syracuse started to do the 2 man halfcourt trap and MU was forced to take 2 consecutive timeouts. After 2 consecutive timeouts we ended up with Jamil Wilson heaving up a 40 ft. 3 pointer. This is inexcusable in my book, with 2 timeouts Buzz needs to draw something better than that up. I believe one of Buzz' only weakspots is his lack of out of bounds plays when we need a quick basket (the shot clock was at 8 seconds after the second timeout).
Also- what in the hell was going on with that dumbass foul by Junior when MU had 1 to give before Syracuse was in the bonus???? Buzz was screaming at him to foul him and Junior lets the inbound come in and touch fouls at halfcourt for our 6th team foul. What kind of strategy is that? I understand using a foul but why not wait until Syracuse gets into their offense and foul if the guy gets by you?? I have never seen something like that.
How are these two things Buzz's fault? So the team didn't execute or get a good look after a timeout and Jamil had to heave one up. A coach can't always "draw up" an open layup, or else they would just "draw that up every time. We were not able to execute.
Secondly, Buzz told the guys to foul to waste some clock. So Junior made a bad decision and fouled too soon, instead of letting 3-4 seconds tick off. Once again, how is that Buzz's fault?
Buzz's best game all season.
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So happy w Buzz' s job last night. Makes me more disappointed w nova loss. IMHO we have the best coaching staff at MU we've had in a long time.
Quote from: ecompt on February 26, 2013, 11:00:05 AM
I know Don's name quite well but have never met him. I covered Big East basketball in the early 1980's and Boeheim was one of the friendliest coaches in the league. I think he much rather prefers the old-school journalism, which was "interview and take notes with a pad and pen." Since everything is out in the Internet world as soon as it happens, Jim has become more crotchety. Last night he was unquestionably rude and unusually uninformed about why the conference is breaking up.
My perception of Boeheim was that he was rather personable and actually was quite clever in his responses to you guys. In recent times he seems to be much more acerbic. That old group of BE coaches was generally good with the press, were they not? Lou, Pitino at PC, Rollie, JT II, PJ, Paul Evans, Gale Catlett, et al...
The internet is a great thing but I don't like how it has devastated print media. There is not the same degree of accountability and its immediacy in terms of access and dissemination makes it too easy for emotional outbursts to make their way into the public domain. I guess I can see how Boeheim has become prickly with the media after 30 years.
Burke was my RA in McCormick. Funny guy with a skeptic's view of life. Early on we had some idiot vomiting in the drinking fountain. This moron couldn't make it the 5 additional steps to the bathroom. I don't think there was janitorial service on weekends so this guy's puke sat there until Monday. Burke kept up a vigilant watch for this guy and ultimately caught him. He had him moved to a different floor. Burke's stuff in the Journal was good. Funnily enough, when he left to go back to NJ he was replaced on the Journal HS beat by a friend, Bill McKinney. Bill ended up leaving journalism to become a Jesuit. Unfortunately Bill passed much too early.
Quote from: Benny B on February 26, 2013, 11:34:08 AM
Here's another reason: MU was giving Syracuse plenty of open looks... kind of hard to foul a guy when you're 5 feet away from him.
In your first example, there was under two minutes to play and MU was up 6. MU didn't need a basket; what they needed to do was run the shot clock down as far as they could without turning the ball over.
In your second example, I'll just say you're grasping at straws to find fault with Buzz. At most, another 2 seconds would have come off the clock, but before you would have run the risk of fouling during the act of shooting. Are 3 FT really worth 2 seconds of a game when you have a 5 pt lead with 0:26 remaining?
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2 minutes to go and up 6 a basket right there puts the game out of reach..I am not saying he is at fault for not drawing up a layup, I am saying he is at fault for not getting a better shot than a 40 ft desperation 3. There was 8 seconds left on the shot clock I don't really think running more time off the clock was the goal, I think he failed to draw up a good inbounds play at a critical moment where a basket almost puts the game away.
Quote from: Benny B on February 26, 2013, 11:34:08 AM
In your second example, I'll just say you're grasping at straws to find fault with Buzz. At most, another 2 seconds would have come off the clock, but before you would have run the risk of fouling during the act of shooting. Are 3 FT really worth 2 seconds of a game when you have a 5 pt lead with 0:26 remaining?
OK, but then what was the point of fouling and letting 1 second tick off? That accomplishes nothing except put them on the line the next time we foul them, which is a bad thing. If you're going to foul in one second don't even bother. I doubt Buzz told Junior to foul immediately, however, so I don't blame him.
I will say that with about 3 minutes to go in the first half, I certainly wasn't marveling at Buzz's coaching acumen as we continuously launched low percentage 3 pointers (when we weren't turning it over) and gave up easy shot after easy shot. I'll bet a lot of you were wondering why we weren't forcing it in to Gardner like I was before we actually started doing it. But Buzz found the right rotations and coached one great game from that point forward. I like that he is willing to abandon what isn't working and search for the right mix each game.
Quote from: icheights on February 26, 2013, 11:25:15 AM
While I agree that Buzz made quite a few good coaching decisions last night..I also think he made a few bad ones.
I can't remember exactly how much time was left in the game...maybe about 5 minutes. Syracuse started to do the 2 man halfcourt trap and MU was forced to take 2 consecutive timeouts. After 2 consecutive timeouts we ended up with Jamil Wilson heaving up a 40 ft. 3 pointer. This is inexcusable in my book, with 2 timeouts Buzz needs to draw something better than that up. I believe one of Buzz' only weakspots is his lack of out of bounds plays when we need a quick basket (the shot clock was at 8 seconds after the second timeout).
Also- what in the hell was going on with that dumbass foul by Junior when MU had 1 to give before Syracuse was in the bonus???? Buzz was screaming at him to foul him and Junior lets the inbound come in and touch fouls at halfcourt for our 6th team foul. What kind of strategy is that? I understand using a foul but why not wait until Syracuse gets into their offense and foul if the guy gets by you?? I have never seen something like that.
These are both complaints against Junior, not Buzz. First one, how did he get himself trapped again less than 10 seconds after we were forced to call the first timeout because someone got trapped? Crazy. Second one, it was incredibly stupid to commit that foul so quickly, but that's not on Buzz.
Quote from: icheights on February 26, 2013, 01:45:44 PM
2 minutes to go and up 6 a basket right there puts the game out of reach..I am not saying he is at fault for not drawing up a layup, I am saying he is at fault for not getting a better shot than a 40 ft desperation 3. There was 8 seconds left on the shot clock I don't really think running more time off the clock was the goal, I think he failed to draw up a good inbounds play at a critical moment where a basket almost puts the game away.
So Buzz draws up one inbounds play that doesn't work against the defensive set drawn up by a hall of fame coach... you're asking way too much if you want a coach to be perfect.
Stop to consider, for a moment, that Syracuse had a little input on that in-bounds play not resulting in an easy layup. Give the other team some credit, too... it's not like MU just beat a D-III school.
Just now listened to Boeheim's postgame presser. What a douche. The questions he was asked were innocuous. In fact, Boeheim had talked a few days earlier about their big guy (who has been hurt) possibly playing. So, given what Gardner did to their skinny centers, not asking the coach after the game if that had been an option would have been a failure on the part of the Syracuse reporter.
Instead of giving a good, insightful answer -- or even just a throw-away cliche answer -- Boeheim chose to go after the reporter. Then about 5 minutes later, without even having been asked about it a second time, Boeheim went after the reporter again just to show he's the man in charge. That's what bullies and a-holes do.
One of the difficult parts of being the beat reporter in a college town that has no pro-sport presence at all is the coach is like the king. Except more powerful.