So infuriated and enraged, Sparty losing a road game that they should have won,
since winning road games is so, so easy, and is the exact equivalent of playing
the Buckeyes in East Lansing. Also, Sparty needs better players, has to grow
some balls, and needs better coaching if they want to be "elite". It's a 40 minute game,
and MSU just isn't "mentally tough." Life as we know it is over--we can't win the B1G title
now, at least not the RIGHT WAY. Oh, and Izzo needs to change the starting lineup,
and Appling sucks at point guard. God, I hope our AD isn't wearing a hat or anything, ON
NATIONAL TV, no less.
Quote from: lab_warrior on February 24, 2013, 05:30:34 PM
So infuriated and enraged, Sparty losing a road game that they should have won,
since winning road games is so, so easy, and is the exact equivalent of playing
the Buckeyes in East Lansing. Also, Sparty needs better players, has to grow
some balls, and needs better coaching if they want to be "elite". It's a 40 minute game,
and MSU just isn't "mentally tough." Life as we know it is over--we can't win the B1G title
now, at least not the RIGHT WAY. Oh, and Izzo needs to change the starting lineup,
and Appling sucks at point guard. God, I hope our AD isn't wearing a hat or anything, ON
NATIONAL TV, no less.
Well done, you tool. MSU is now 6-4 on the road....and in contention for the B10 title. Coincidence?? MSU played a better team on the road today than MU played yesterday. When two teams are close to or equivalent in talent level, you will lose on the road sometimes, when the talent level isn't equal and you are more talented(see MU vs. Nova), you shouldn't lose on the road. Understood??
Thanks, Labwarrior, for the perspective. Too bad about Sparty, though. Maybe Izzo needs to recruit better players.
Quote from: muguru on February 24, 2013, 05:37:31 PM
Well done, you tool. MSU is now 6-4 on the road....and in contention for the B10 title. Coincidence?? MSU played a better team on the road today than MU played yesterday. When two teams are close to or equivalent in talent level, you will lose on the road sometimes, when the talent level isn't equal and you are more talented(see MU vs. Nova), you shouldn't lose on the road. Understood??
Haha Jesus you are not a very smart person are you? It's OK for Michigan State to lose on the road to a team who had 1 win over a ranked opponent this year, yet it's not OK for Marquette to lose on the road to a team that had beaten 2 top 5 teams this year. That makes sense.
Then Michigan State is 1.5 games out of first place in the B1G and they are in contention for the B1G title, but Marquette is 1 game out of first place in the Big East yet they are out of contention for the Big East title. Again, makes sense.
I'm not sure how you can say Marquette should not lose on the road at Villinova. Villinova beat both Louisville and Syracuse at home, when both teams were in the top 5 in the country.
Get a clue kid.
Quote from: muguru on February 24, 2013, 05:37:31 PM
Well done, you tool. MSU is now 6-4 on the road....and in contention for the B10 title. Coincidence?? MSU played a better team on the road today than MU played yesterday. When two teams are close to or equivalent in talent level, you will lose on the road sometimes, when the talent level isn't equal and you are more talented(see MU vs. Nova), you shouldn't lose on the road. Understood??
Almost every team every year loses multiple games on the road to opponents with less talent.
see:
Indiana, to UW and Illinois
Miami, to Wake Forest and Florida Gulf Coast
Florida, to Arkansas and Missouri
Duke, to NC State and Maryland
Kansas, to TCU and Oklahoma
Syracuse, to Villanova (gasp!) and UConn
Louisville, to Villanova (gasp!) and Notre Dame
Arizona, to Oregon and Colorado
Apparently these teams also lack that elusiveness eliteness you're talking about.
Quote from: wadesworld on February 24, 2013, 05:45:36 PM
Haha Jesus you are not a very smart person are you? It's OK for Michigan State to lose on the road to a team who had 1 win over a ranked opponent this year, yet it's not OK for Marquette to lose on the road to a team that had beaten 2 top 5 teams this year. That makes sense.
Then Michigan State is 1.5 games out of first place in the B1G and they are in contention for the B1G title, but Marquette is 1 game out of first place in the Big East yet they are out of contention for the Big East title. Again, makes sense.
I'm not sure how you can say Marquette should not lose on the road at Villinova. Villinova beat both Louisville and Syracuse at home, when both teams were in the top 5 in the country.
Get a clue kid.
The Nova loss probably would've been ok in his eyes if Nova had a completely arbitrary number before the school name.
Quote from: awilhelmscream on February 24, 2013, 05:59:38 PM
The Nova loss probably would've been ok in his eyes if Nova had a completely arbitrary number before the school name.
No, it wouldn't have been okay under any circumstances. Especially when they had the chance to basically control their own destiny to win the BE. Is it okay with you that MU looks like a completely different team on the road than they do at home?? Every team struggles on the road at times, that's not my point. My point is why does MU(perhaps more than any team I have seen this year), play COMPLETELY differently on the road than they do at home?? Basketball is the same game, no matter where it's played, yet seeing MU play at home vs, on the road, you'd never know that.
Quote from: wadesworld on February 24, 2013, 05:45:36 PM
Haha Jesus you are not a very smart person are you? It's OK for Michigan State to lose on the road to a team who had 1 win over a ranked opponent this year, yet it's not OK for Marquette to lose on the road to a team that had beaten 2 top 5 teams this year. That makes sense.
Then Michigan State is 1.5 games out of first place in the B1G and they are in contention for the B1G title, but Marquette is 1 game out of first place in the Big East yet they are out of contention for the Big East title. Again, makes sense.
I'm not sure how you can say Marquette should not lose on the road at Villinova. Villinova beat both Louisville and Syracuse at home, when both teams were in the top 5 in the country.
Get a clue kid.
This.
MSU beat Iowa, Penn State, Wisconsin, Purdue and Nebraska on the road for their 5 conference wins on the road.
MSU beat RPI 90, 200, 24 , 129, and 97 on the road.
In case you wanted to compare, Villanova is 54.
Quote from: muguru on February 24, 2013, 06:02:36 PM
No, it wouldn't have been okay under any circumstances. Especially when they had the chance to basically control their own destiny to win the BE. Is it okay with you that MU looks like a completely different team on the road than they do at home?? Every team struggles on the road at times, that's not my point. My point is why does MU(perhaps more than any team I have seen this year), play COMPLETELY differently on the road than they do at home?? Basketball is the same game, no matter where it's played, yet seeing MU play at home vs, on the road, you'd never know that.
I'd like to thank you again for straightening me out.
I get together with friends and enjoy MU games, and I was even entertained by last night's game.
But, now I know that entertainment means
nothing.
It's about achievement, and MU's road losses are UNACCEPTABLE.
I've written Buzz and Larry several emails today, and they haven't gotten back to me once. Hopefully it is because they are still yelling at the team for losing on the road. It's UNACCEPTABLE. They should know that!
Quote from: PTM on February 24, 2013, 06:21:06 PM
MSU beat Iowa, Penn State, Wisconsin, Purdue and Nebraska on the road for their 5 conference wins on the road.
MSU beat RPI 90, 200, 24 , 129, and 97 on the road.
In case you wanted to compare, Villanova is 54.
So what's your point? Beating WI at the Kohl is a big win for anyone. MU has never won at the Pavilion. It's a tough venue against a very well coached opponent.
Quote from: Pakuni on February 24, 2013, 05:54:46 PM
Almost every team every year loses multiple games on the road to opponents with less talent.
see:
Indiana, to UW and Illinois
Worse, that was at home to UW. That's ok though, no outrage around here about losing on your home court to an inferior opponent when you haven't lost at home to anybody.
Quote from: keefe on February 24, 2013, 07:24:28 PM
So what's your point? Beating WI at the Kohl is a big win for anyone. MU has never won at the Pavilion. It's a tough venue against a very well coached opponent.
The point is, it doesn't matter.