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Title: New starting lineup
Post by: muguru on February 23, 2013, 07:46:04 PM
This is what we need to see the rest of the year(unfortunately we won't).

Blue
Mayo
Jamil
Taylor
Gardner

Blue, Mayo and even Jamil can handle ball handling duties. This lineup is your best scoring lineup, and probably won't turn the ball over as much.
Title: Re: New starting lineup
Post by: warriorstrack on February 23, 2013, 07:49:13 PM
I like that SL wouldn't mind having Otule start and Gardner off bench though
Title: Re: New starting lineup
Post by: muguru on February 23, 2013, 07:52:49 PM
Quote from: warriorstrack on February 23, 2013, 07:49:13 PM
I like that SL wouldn't mind having Otule start and Gardner off bench though

That'd be fine with me too, just want Mayo, Jamil and Taylor in the starting lineup. What does Buzz have to lose trying it?? If it works, stick with it, if it doesn't, you'll know pretty early in the game.
Title: Re: New starting lineup
Post by: madtownwarrior on February 23, 2013, 07:54:15 PM
unfortunately buzz sticks with loyalty versus best lineup...
Title: Re: New starting lineup
Post by: Tugg Speedman on February 23, 2013, 08:41:16 PM
Quote from: madtownwarrior on February 23, 2013, 07:54:15 PM
unfortunately buzz sticks with loyalty versus best lineup...

Yeah, the team is 10-4 and that screams time for a radical change.
Title: Re: New starting lineup
Post by: tower912 on February 23, 2013, 08:42:19 PM
19-7, 10-4, radical line up change.  Oy.   
Title: Re: New starting lineup
Post by: chapman on February 23, 2013, 08:50:57 PM
Yes, bench all the seniors! 

It's time to end the Anderson experiment and get Jamil or Taylor in the starting lineup.  Other than that, you stick with what you've got.  Benching all the seniors isn't going to propel this team to the Final Four.  And got to love that Mayo has a good five minute stretch and his terrible play that got him benched last game is not only forgotten, but there are calls to start him again. 
Title: Re: New starting lineup
Post by: Tugg Speedman on February 23, 2013, 08:53:27 PM
Starting lineup for Syracuse

Thomas
Ferguson
Flood
Taylor
Anderson
Title: Re: New starting lineup
Post by: muguru on February 23, 2013, 08:56:47 PM
Quote from: chapman on February 23, 2013, 08:50:57 PM
Yes, bench all the seniors! 

It's time to end the Anderson experiment and get Jamil or Taylor in the starting lineup.  Other than that, you stick with what you've got.  Benching all the seniors isn't going to propel this team to the Final Four.  And got to love that Mayo has a good five minute stretch and his terrible play that got him benched last game is not only forgotten, but there are calls to start him again. 

When one of those Seniors is your starting PG and he's turning the ball over at an alarming rate, that ain't propelling you to anywhere but a one and done in the NCAAs either. He needs to sit...clear his head. Refocus.
Title: Re: New starting lineup
Post by: muhoosier260 on February 23, 2013, 08:58:58 PM
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on February 23, 2013, 08:53:27 PM
Starting lineup for Syracuse

Thomas
Ferguson
Flood
Taylor
Anderson

don't forget Durley
Title: Re: New starting lineup
Post by: Tugg Speedman on February 23, 2013, 09:02:29 PM
Quote from: muguru on February 23, 2013, 08:56:47 PM
He needs to sit...clear his head. Refocus.

Maybe he should do push-ups, run wind sprints in a rubber suit or workout with a medicine ball and all the other cliches from the 1950s when He needs to sit...clear his head. Refocus was a popular notion.
Title: Re: New starting lineup
Post by: TinyTimsLittleBrother on February 24, 2013, 07:55:47 AM
Quote from: muguru on February 23, 2013, 07:46:04 PM
This is what we need to see the rest of the year(unfortunately we won't).

Blue
Mayo
Jamil
Taylor
Gardner

Blue, Mayo and even Jamil can handle ball handling duties. This lineup is your best scoring lineup, and probably won't turn the ball over as much.


Again, why do people want to create a new role for the leading scorer on the team with four games left in the year?  And no offense, but I think if Vander had the ball in his hands, the point guard position would still have a bunch of turnovers.  I love the guy, but his ball handling against quality defenses is suspect.
Title: Re: New starting lineup
Post by: TinyTimsLittleBrother on February 24, 2013, 08:01:29 AM
Quote from: muguru on February 23, 2013, 08:56:47 PM
When one of those Seniors is your starting PG and he's turning the ball over at an alarming rate, that ain't propelling you to anywhere but a one and done in the NCAAs either. He needs to sit...clear his head. Refocus.


What are the options?  Derrick Wilson?  He's a solid guy, but he doesn't do much out there.  Vander Blue?  Great time to give your leading scorer a role that he has NEVER PLAYED BEFORE. 
Title: Re: New starting lineup
Post by: real chili 83 on February 24, 2013, 08:04:13 AM
Quote from: muhoosier260 on February 23, 2013, 08:58:58 PM
don't forget Durley

+1 LOL
Title: Re: New starting lineup
Post by: macman320 on February 24, 2013, 09:14:50 AM
Taylor is a solid rebounder and adds a few hustle baskets we wouldn't get without him on the floor. For anyone who has actually coached or played organized basketball, is he a liability on defense? On and/or off the ball? I notice him when he does well and love his upside, think he'll be great in the long run, and even a bit now, but I'm not one who watches players not guarding the ball on defense.
Title: Re: New starting lineup
Post by: TinyTimsLittleBrother on February 24, 2013, 09:19:39 AM
Quote from: macman320 on February 24, 2013, 09:14:50 AM
Taylor is a solid rebounder and adds a few hustle baskets we wouldn't get without him on the floor. For anyone who has actually coached or played organized basketball, is he a liability on defense? On and/or off the ball? I notice him when he does well and love his upside, think he'll be great in the long run, and even a bit now, but I'm not one who watches players not guarding the ball on defense.

I think he's getting better on the defensive end.  I wouldn't mind seeing him getting more minutes at Juan's expense.
Title: Re: New starting lineup
Post by: Goose on February 24, 2013, 09:25:56 AM
Vander needs the ball in his hands more often. More importantly he needs the ball where he can make things happen. Watching Jr. lumber up the court and stop 40 feet from basket is very frustrating.
Title: Re: New starting lineup
Post by: mileskishnish72 on February 24, 2013, 09:37:29 AM
Loved watching Steve's efforts, esp on O-board, but Pinkston owned him.
Title: Re: New starting lineup
Post by: lab_warrior on February 24, 2013, 09:46:04 AM
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Title: Re: New starting lineup
Post by: 4everwarriors on February 24, 2013, 09:46:55 AM
Pinkston, another dude Buzz swung and missed on.
Title: Re: New starting lineup
Post by: TinyTimsLittleBrother on February 24, 2013, 09:54:15 AM
Quote from: 4everwarriors on February 24, 2013, 09:46:55 AM
Pinkston, another dude Buzz swung and missed on.

The nature of college basketball.

Steve Taylor is the same position and was similarly ranked.  He's just got more people in front if him than Pinkston does.
Title: Re: New starting lineup
Post by: Stretchdeltsig on February 24, 2013, 11:45:51 AM
The starting lineup should be Gardner, Taylor, Blue, J.Wilson and Mayo with D. Wilson coming in off the bench when needed.

Title: Re: New starting lineup
Post by: Goose on February 24, 2013, 11:49:56 AM
I have accepted that we will not see the best starting lineup anytime soon. Buzz is going with the guys he trusts and that is good enough for me. My hopes for season were being bubble team and we will make NCAA. I am with 4ever though, we need better players to go further.
Title: Re: New starting lineup
Post by: TinyTimsLittleBrother on February 24, 2013, 12:02:09 PM
Quote from: Stretchdeltsig on February 24, 2013, 11:45:51 AM
The starting lineup should be Gardner, Taylor, Blue, J.Wilson and Mayo with D. Wilson coming in off the bench when needed.


Really?  Who's going to play point?  Blue or Mayo?

You do realize that neither one of them have played the position at this level right?
Title: Re: New starting lineup
Post by: forgetful on February 24, 2013, 12:02:32 PM
Quote from: TinyTim on February 24, 2013, 09:54:15 AM
The nature of college basketball.

Steve Taylor is the same position and was similarly ranked.  He's just got more people in front if him than Pinkston does.

Not to mention that Taylor didn't have to sit out an entire year for criminal problems.
Title: Re: New starting lineup
Post by: Pakuni on February 24, 2013, 12:27:47 PM
Quote from: muguru on February 23, 2013, 08:56:47 PM
When one of those Seniors is your starting PG and he's turning the ball over at an alarming rate, that ain't propelling you to anywhere but a one and done in the NCAAs either. He needs to sit...clear his head. Refocus.

Cadougan has an A/TO rate of 1.66/1 which, yeah, isn't good.
But your solution is to replace him with a guy whose A/TO rate is .85/1 while also putting your leading scorer in a new and significantly different role? And pairing him in the backcourt with a guy whose A/TO rate is .59/1?

Umm, yeah. That makes a ton of sense.
Title: Re: New starting lineup
Post by: Goose on February 24, 2013, 01:36:25 PM
I do not think he needs to clear his head or refocus but do think sitting is strong argument. All I know is the more I watch JR play the more I want to hear this unreal story on why Buzz loves him. To me anything short of him being raised by wolves does not cut it. I love loyalty and trust Buzz but Jr. is very weak link on this team.
Title: Re: New starting lineup
Post by: Markusquette on February 24, 2013, 01:49:49 PM
I want Junior starting at PG still over one of Blue/Mayo.  The only real change I'd like to see is Jamil starting for Juan.  If not Jamil for some reason I think Taylor has proven just as much already and he wouldn't chuck up a three right a way.
Title: Re: New starting lineup
Post by: TinyTimsLittleBrother on February 24, 2013, 01:59:45 PM
Quote from: Goose on February 24, 2013, 01:36:25 PM
I do not think he needs to clear his head or refocus but do think sitting is strong argument. All I know is the more I watch JR play the more I want to hear this unreal story on why Buzz loves him. To me anything short of him being raised by wolves does not cut it. I love loyalty and trust Buzz but Jr. is very weak link on this team.


He's not starting due to loyalty.  He's starting due to him being the best option available.  Pakuni laid out the stats nicely - he's not playing particularly well, but there are not better options.
Title: Re: New starting lineup
Post by: Goose on February 24, 2013, 02:07:41 PM
TinyTim

4 on 5 would have been better option yesterday.
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