Seems like this team has had an extremely difficult time of breaking the press. I'm surprised teams haven't come out and continually pressed us, as we've handled the press extremely poorly lately (end of the Pitt game, Louisville, etc.). I understand there's not a lot of teams that are deep enough to press for a majority of a game, but there'll be teams like this in the tournament. Hopefully, they figure this out before tournament time.
I agree. I don't want to see VCU anywhere near us in the NCAA bracket. Even last night we were just barely getting the ball across half court in time against modest pressure.
I watched the Florida vs Mizzou game last night, and as we all know Florida is very good. However i never noticed how tenacious their defense is. If MU has to play a defense like that in the Tourney, they are done.
So teams like, Louisville, Florida, VCU, etc..
Agreed that they don't handle high pressure defenses well. In MU's losses other than Butler and Cincinnati, the other team has punched MU in the mouth and MU hasn't responded. GB doesn't play 'high pressure' defense, but the 3-2 zone they threw at MU challenged the perimeter and cut off the easy penetration. MU responded passively. To be successful, this team needs to attack, regardless of the defense thrown at it. When MU has played poorly, it is because it has allowed the other team to be the aggressor.
Nova is going to press MU on Saturday.
Hopefully, with that knowledge and a few days to prepare, MU comes out ready on Saturday.
Quote from: RJax55 on February 20, 2013, 10:54:55 AM
Nova is going to press MU on Saturday.
I'm more concerned with how MU guards the perimeter than Villanova's press. If they get hot in that small gym, goodnight.
Quote from: MUfan12 on February 20, 2013, 11:18:05 AM
I'm more concerned with how MU guards the perimeter than Villanova's press. If they get hot in that small gym, goodnight.
Games at the Wells Fargo Center, not on campus.
Quote from: MUfan12 on February 20, 2013, 11:18:05 AM
I'm more concerned with how MU guards the perimeter than Villanova's press. If they get hot in that small gym, goodnight.
I've watched Nova play a bunch this year, they are a weird team. They have a couple of guys, Bell and Arcidiacono in particular, who are complete streak shooters. These guys will miss wide open look after look, then catch fire. A lot of times, the better the defense, the more often they hit the 3, again weird team.
Nova will turn the ball over and I think MU can have success on the glass as well. MU has had past success getting Yarou in foul trouble, that will be key. Like most MU-Nova games, it will be extremely fast-paced, high scoring and filled with a ton of fouls.
Biggest concern, Poor passing. The inability to not telegraph the pass and the complete unawareness/unwillingness, to pass in transition before the Defense sets up.
The telegraphed pass maybe the result of trying to enable Otule to See and catch the Ball and this habit hangs to all their passing. The transition pass maybe dead, a casualty of the "Paint Touchs" goal.
We are turn over city, half the time, when the ball goes inside to Otule and passing up 4 to 6 easy buckets a game without early/timely pass's to Devante or J.Wilson ect. as they cross the three point circle.
Let me add I love Buzz and believe he has done an outstanding job. Finally. unlike many of you, I think this is one of the most talented teams MU has ever had.
Go Warriors!
Quote from: JDuquaine on February 20, 2013, 10:37:46 AM
I watched the Florida vs Mizzou game last night, and as we all know Florida is very good. However i never noticed how tenacious their defense is. If MU has to play a defense like that in the Tourney, they are done.
So teams like, Louisville, Florida, VCU, etc..
Seems like you didn't watch Florida dismantle Marquette this season.
Turnovers. IF we limit our turnovers we'll be in every game.
Quote from: muchamps on February 20, 2013, 12:04:19 PMunlike many of you, I think this is one of the most talented teams MU has ever had.
Go Warriors!
I guess this depends upon how one defines "most talented" and "ever" and "one of."
More talented than last year's team, which had all of the same players (except Taylor and Thomas) but also had the Big East PoY and another NBA draft choice?
More talented than the final year of the Amigos plus Lazar and Butler? That included a guy now earning an eight-figure NBA contract, two first-round draft picks and an All-American who briefly made an NBA roster.
More talented than the '03 Final Four team, with arguably the best player in school history, the best shooter in school history, the best center we've had in decades and a PG who played in the NBA?
More talented than any of about 10 teams Al fielded?
More talented than Hank Raymonds' first couple of teams, which included several NBA players?
Come on.
I've enjoyed watching this team grow into a very nice group, one I think can make some NCAA noise if the lads can hit a few shots and take care of the basketball. One could argue it is as deep as any team we've had in years. One could even argue that it includes lots of players who have talent, some of whom already are displaying it and some of whom have the potential to be very good.
But just as I wasn't on board with those who tried to claim last year's team was better than the Final Four team, it is a serious stretch to put this team in the same category as any of those named above. Let's see where this season takes us and then we can talk again.
Quote from: MUMonster03 on February 20, 2013, 11:30:57 AM
Games at the Wells Fargo Center, not on campus.
It's at the Pavillion.
"This year Villanova Men's Basketball will play three (3) home games at the Wells Fargo Center:
Tuesday, January 22 vs. Louisville
Saturday, January 26 vs. Syracuse
Wednesday, March 6 vs. Georgetown"
http://www.villanova.com/tickets/m-baskbl-tickets.html
Quote from: ATWizJr on February 21, 2013, 09:21:07 AM
Turnovers. IF we limit our turnovers we'll be in every game.
Yeah and if it rained $100 bills, I'd be rich!
That's a big IF and we just have been too sloppy.
We go as far as Junior Cadougan goes, normally we would lose a game when Junior does not score, playing a pitiful Seton Hall team it really did not matter. He has to be part of the offense
and at least look to score. If you pressure him full court, he seems to get into a funk.
Regarding the pressure defense (half or full court) I think we got used to having an All-Conference point for a long time as well as a three guard offense for awhile.
Now we have a decent point guard and really only a two guard offense, even with Lockett in because his speed and ball handling is really like a '3'.
If we get pressed big time you have to go with a true three guard lineup AND have Wilson in as his height and ball handling has been good against the press (and, yes, I realize he does make sloppy passes sometimes but that is normally in the half court).
It depends on the team and type of defense. SLU demolished VCU the other night, up 20 early and led by 26. Taking the VCU example, SLU used a strong half court defense to limit the quantity of times that VCU could set up its press. SLU limited turnovers to 8, 4 by one player. On the other end, SLU had great spacing, and a high basketball IQ to attack VCU in a variety of ways. SLU looked very good in its half court offense, and VCU didn't look good in its half court defense. Time and time again, SLU spread the floor and took VCU off of the bounce and to the rack. VCU couldn't stay in front of their man, and didn't rotate over for help defense. SLU also did well with pick and pops and making the extra pass. VCU was much less effective when unable to set up their press. When VCU was able to set up its press, SLU was poised much of the time with its decision making of when to attack the basket and when to set up its offense. VCU's press was much more effective than its half court defense.
Quote from: The Golden Avalanche on February 21, 2013, 09:08:49 AM
Seems like you didn't watch Florida dismantle Marquette this season.
Sorry my wording is bad, i meant teams like Florida, Louisville, VCU would handle MU.
So, we do need better players?
Quote from: dgies9156 on February 21, 2013, 09:27:40 AM
Yeah and if it rained $100 bills, I'd be rich!
That's a big IF and we just have been too sloppy.
OK. Then we need to be less sloppy. That better?
I don't think this team is anywhere near the top 20 MU teams I have seen since I started school there in 1968. But it plays as hard as any team I've seen and absolutely (well, when Jamil is motivated) gets the most out of its talent. We haven't come anything close to a McDonald's AA since Doc Rivers and yet we continue to put up 20-win seasons and earn NCAA bids. I think Buzz was right when he critiqued the team's talent level. This team has to play very well to win, and most nights Buzz gets them to do that.
Quote from: muchamps on February 20, 2013, 12:04:19 PM
Biggest concern, Poor passing. The inability to not telegraph the pass and the complete unawareness/unwillingness, to pass in transition before the Defense sets up.
The telegraphed pass maybe the result of trying to enable Otule to See and catch the Ball and this habit hangs to all their passing. The transition pass maybe dead, a casualty of the "Paint Touchs" goal.
We are turn over city, half the time, when the ball goes inside to Otule and passing up 4 to 6 easy buckets a game without early/timely pass's to Devante or J.Wilson ect. as they cross the three point circle.
Let me add I love Buzz and believe he has done an outstanding job. Finally. unlike many of you, I think this is one of the most talented teams MU has ever had.
Go Warriors!
Read above each time we lose and add "only" 11 minutes for Devante to cinch the loss.