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Title: Seton Hall SOTG
Post by: tower912 on February 19, 2013, 08:02:50 PM
Ox
Title: Re: Seton Hall SOTG
Post by: MU B2002 on February 19, 2013, 08:04:34 PM
or Blue.
Title: Re: Seton Hall SOTG
Post by: RushmoreAcademy on February 19, 2013, 08:04:51 PM
The spin moves, the glass.  Ox.
Title: Re: Seton Hall SOTG
Post by: muwarrior97 on February 19, 2013, 08:05:20 PM
Ox (or Buzz's Sweater)
Title: Re: Seton Hall SOTG
Post by: nyg on February 19, 2013, 08:06:34 PM
I would vote for Lockett for all round play, not just the points.

9 points
8 rebounds
2 assists
2 steals
2 blocks
Title: Re: Seton Hall SOTG
Post by: mu03eng on February 19, 2013, 08:06:53 PM
Vander, triggered the separating run all by himself
Title: Re: Seton Hall SOTG
Post by: chapman on February 19, 2013, 08:07:35 PM
Vander.  Played two solid halves.

Mac just agreed.

And an honorable mention to Jamil Wilson.  Followed up 13 and 8 with 10 and 9, and double digits five games in a row now.  We can win that way.
Title: Re: Seton Hall SOTG
Post by: RealWarriorFan on February 19, 2013, 08:07:57 PM
Davante was BIG
Title: Re: Seton Hall SOTG
Post by: warriorchick on February 19, 2013, 08:08:05 PM
Dylan Flood, for that key blocked shot at the end.
Title: Re: Seton Hall SOTG
Post by: BallBoy on February 19, 2013, 08:09:12 PM
Quote from: MU B2002 on February 19, 2013, 08:04:34 PM
or Blue.

Got to go with Blue as he started the major run and was our leading scorer and had 10 of our 27 first half points.  Ox got a lot of his points when Seton Hall looked like they quit.
Title: Re: Seton Hall SOTG
Post by: warriorstrack on February 19, 2013, 08:10:27 PM
Gardner
Title: Re: Seton Hall SOTG
Post by: Nukem2 on February 19, 2013, 08:10:56 PM
Vander....
Title: Re: Seton Hall SOTG
Post by: Newsdreams on February 19, 2013, 08:11:21 PM
Blue
Title: Re: Seton Hall SOTG
Post by: WarriorHal on February 19, 2013, 08:11:26 PM
I'd give the slight edge to Vander over Ox.
Title: Re: Seton Hall SOTG
Post by: madtownwarrior on February 19, 2013, 08:11:32 PM
split it - Ox and Blue
Title: Re: Seton Hall SOTG
Post by: brewcity77 on February 19, 2013, 08:11:45 PM
Vander Blue, solid all around game, Mac touting him as First Team Big East and POY candidate. Even me being in a bay called the Pirates' Bight doesn't give SHU the edge. I need to go to the tropics more often...MU is 4-0 when I am enjoying sun, sand, and surf in February.
Title: Re: Seton Hall SOTG
Post by: jtrash37 on February 19, 2013, 08:12:57 PM
B
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Title: Re: Seton Hall SOTG
Post by: TallTitan34 on February 19, 2013, 08:15:36 PM
Sweater....... or Blue.
Title: Re: Seton Hall SOTG
Post by: lab_warrior on February 19, 2013, 08:17:00 PM
As much as I loved Gardner's doinking in a shot
off the window, and Lockett's box score filler, gotta go
with Blue.  Serious alpha dog game.
Title: Re: Seton Hall SOTG
Post by: Warriors10 on February 19, 2013, 08:19:40 PM
Blue.

Its stud of the game, not stud of the half.
Title: Re: Seton Hall SOTG
Post by: marquettejr on February 19, 2013, 08:20:06 PM
Lockett
Title: Re: Seton Hall SOTG
Post by: tower912 on February 19, 2013, 08:20:45 PM
I did not think Blue was that good in the second half.   
Title: Re: Seton Hall SOTG
Post by: jsglow on February 19, 2013, 08:21:23 PM
Van.  Only guy who played in the first half.  Very solid game for the team leader.  Halftime rant must have been unbelievable.  I'm surprised coach didn't play Flood in the first half just to make a point.
Title: Re: Seton Hall SOTG
Post by: Golden Avalanche on February 19, 2013, 08:21:39 PM
Buzz' sweater.
Title: Re: Seton Hall SOTG
Post by: DoggyDaddy on February 19, 2013, 08:21:56 PM
Hell they are both deserving. Someone needs to bring a replica of Babe the Blue Ox to the next home game.
See: Paul Bunyan.    
Title: Re: Seton Hall SOTG
Post by: DCWarriors04 on February 19, 2013, 08:22:44 PM
The Sweater
Title: Re: Seton Hall SOTG
Post by: drbchilds on February 19, 2013, 08:33:39 PM
Blue, with Ox a close second
Title: Re: Seton Hall SOTG
Post by: bilsu on February 19, 2013, 08:35:04 PM
blue
Title: Re: Seton Hall SOTG
Post by: PBRme on February 19, 2013, 08:37:40 PM
BLUE
Title: Re: Seton Hall SOTG
Post by: BM1090 on February 19, 2013, 08:41:57 PM
Blue. Kept us in it while the rest of the team was faltering.
Title: Re: Seton Hall SOTG
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on February 19, 2013, 08:42:48 PM
Not SOTG material, but Jamil had a great 2nd half. Just missed the double-double with 10 pts and 9 boards. If Jamil does that every night, MU is in real good shape. Last five games he has really found his role.
Title: Re: Seton Hall SOTG
Post by: CTWarrior on February 19, 2013, 08:51:07 PM
Blue
Title: Re: Seton Hall SOTG
Post by: WellsstreetWanderer on February 19, 2013, 09:01:41 PM
Blue because he is becoming so consistent ... another big game
Title: Re: Seton Hall SOTG
Post by: bkooncy on February 19, 2013, 09:02:43 PM
Ox due to the great 13 foot bank shot!
Title: Re: Seton Hall SOTG
Post by: tower912 on February 19, 2013, 09:12:59 PM
Quote from: nyg on February 19, 2013, 08:06:34 PM
I would vote for Lockett for all round play, not just the points.

9 points
8 rebounds
2 assists
2 steals
2 blocks

Wilson with 10 pts and 9 rebounds. 
Title: Re: Seton Hall SOTG
Post by: MU82 on February 19, 2013, 09:39:19 PM
Blue was pretty much only thing we had going on O in the first half. Gardner was unstoppable -- and fun to watch -- as we pulled away. But from beginning to end, I thought Lockett was outstanding tonight.

Lockett gets my vote ... and he definitely has grown on me as the season has progressed. (I'm sure he's pleased about getting my thumbs-up.)
Title: Re: Seton Hall SOTG
Post by: Marqus Howard on February 19, 2013, 09:45:54 PM
Blue, but I agree that Jamil was great tonight and will be huge down the stretch for us.
Title: Re: Seton Hall SOTG
Post by: Abode4life on February 19, 2013, 10:20:47 PM
Blue  - Nice 34 minutes.
Title: Re: Seton Hall SOTG
Post by: Norm on February 19, 2013, 10:23:02 PM
Blue
Title: Re: Seton Hall SOTG
Post by: keefe on February 20, 2013, 02:30:44 AM
Blue Babe
Title: Re: Seton Hall SOTG
Post by: Goose on February 20, 2013, 06:24:43 AM
Several games the SOTG went to someone other than Blue due to big second halves by guy. The UW game comes to mind with JR. playing very well in second half. Vander delivered the goods again tonight. My vote is Blue.
Title: Re: Seton Hall SOTG
Post by: WarriorInNYC on February 20, 2013, 08:05:53 AM
Vander, he's the one that kept it going in the first half.  After him, I would have Jamil then Lockett.  Really, really impressed with how both of them played last night and how they have played the last several games.
Title: Re: Seton Hall SOTG
Post by: paulpogo on February 20, 2013, 08:07:30 AM
Blue.

I know we shouldn't look at it this way, but this would also help the season long SoG tally.  For that to mean anything at all, Blue should be leading.

Title: Re: Seton Hall SOTG
Post by: RushmoreAcademy on February 20, 2013, 08:22:19 AM
Blue had an amazing game and is becoming the guy this team needs, no doubt.
But I'm not looking at who was good during a terrible first half.    With the score 39-33 and still in the balance with 16 minutes to go, Ox scored 10 of 12 points in a 6 minute span and the game was then over.
Title: Re: Seton Hall SOTG
Post by: Henry Sugar on February 20, 2013, 08:27:21 AM
1. Gardner
2. Blue
3. Lockett
4. Jamil
Title: Re: Seton Hall SOTG
Post by: WarriorInNYC on February 20, 2013, 08:31:49 AM
Quote from: RushmoreAcademy on February 20, 2013, 08:22:19 AM
Blue had an amazing game and is becoming the guy this team needs, no doubt.
But I'm not looking at who was good during a terrible first half.    With the score 39-33 and still in the balance with 16 minutes to go, Ox scored 10 of 12 points in a 6 minute span and the game was then over.

I guess that is one way to look at it, but consider the other side.  If Blue wasn't as good as he was in the first half, we are down 6, 8 going into the half?  Blue kept us in the game and still continued to play well in the second.

I understand the argument for Ox, had a great game.  But I don't like the "not looking at who was good in a bad half, but I'll look at who was good in a good half" argument.
Title: Re: Seton Hall SOTG
Post by: Schmidtyfactor on February 20, 2013, 08:32:36 AM
I can't recall a SOTG thread where there were 4 legit contenders and if any of the 4 won, it would be justified. Let's hope we have more threads like these and we can make some noise in March.
Title: Re: Seton Hall SOTG
Post by: WarriorInNYC on February 20, 2013, 08:34:24 AM
Quote from: Schmidtyfactor on February 20, 2013, 08:32:36 AM
I can't recall a SOTG thread where there were 4 legit contenders and if any of the 4 won, it would be justified. Let's hope we have more threads like these and we can make some noise in March.

This
Title: Re: Seton Hall SOTG
Post by: Warriors 79 on February 20, 2013, 08:39:59 AM
Blue. triggered the separation and keeps evolving as the leader of this team.
Title: Re: Seton Hall SOTG
Post by: mileskishnish72 on February 20, 2013, 09:38:57 AM
True, Schmidty, it's mice to have so many contenders. Winner, however, should be Van.
Title: Re: Seton Hall SOTG
Post by: RushmoreAcademy on February 20, 2013, 10:54:12 AM
Quote from: WarriorInDC on February 20, 2013, 08:31:49 AM
I guess that is one way to look at it, but consider the other side.  If Blue wasn't as good as he was in the first half, we are down 6, 8 going into the half?  Blue kept us in the game and still continued to play well in the second.

I understand the argument for Ox, had a great game.  But I don't like the "not looking at who was good in a bad half, but I'll look at who was good in a good half" argument.

Fair enough.  Certainly don't mean to say that the first half should be discounted.  I suppose when I make my Stud analysis it's usually at least decently weighted by the eye test, whether that is a good way to do it or not, and my eyes were a lot happier during that second half.   I think I actually voted Vander earlier in the year in a similar game, (can't recall which) when he was the only one performing in the first half, but there were just no standouts in our better second half.   I see what you are saying though.
Title: Re: Seton Hall SOTG
Post by: muchamps on February 20, 2013, 12:15:19 PM
Devante-automatic
Title: Re: Seton Hall SOTG
Post by: mubb34 on February 20, 2013, 12:39:34 PM
Vander---HM to Ox and Lockett
Title: Re: Seton Hall SOTG
Post by: rocky_warrior on February 20, 2013, 09:33:16 PM
Despite all the votes for VB, Gardner gets it for great numbers (in 25 minutes), and finally securing the lead when Marquette needed it.
Title: Re: Seton Hall SOTG
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on February 20, 2013, 09:35:23 PM
Quote from: rocky_warrior on February 20, 2013, 09:33:16 PM
Despite all the votes for VB, Gardner gets it for great numbers (in 25 minutes), and finally securing the lead when Marquette needed it.

+ 1
Title: Re: Seton Hall SOTG
Post by: Norm on February 20, 2013, 11:13:44 PM
It is amazing how much Vander Blue's performance in games is taken for granted this season after most folks complained about his play his first two years. He is BY FAR the most consistent performer on the team and the runaway MVP, and yet he has only been voted SOTG 4 times out of 19 wins this year. Cadougan, who is maddeningly inconsistent this season, has as many SOTG's as Blue, as does Gardner, who fell into about a 5-6 game slump prior to last night. Oh well, let's hope we just keep winning so he can win a couple more.

Title: Re: Seton Hall SOTG
Post by: RushmoreAcademy on February 21, 2013, 07:46:50 AM
I don't think his performance is taken for granted. I think everybody here would agree he is the guy we can't lose, but the Stud totals don't surprise me.  MU is one of the more balanced and deep teams and to be at the top of the Beast at this point in the season, it means a lot of different guys have had to have a big game here or there.
Title: Re: Seton Hall SOTG
Post by: tower912 on February 21, 2013, 07:59:16 AM
Quote from: Norm on February 20, 2013, 11:13:44 PM
It is amazing how much Vander Blue's performance in games is taken for granted this season after most folks complained about his play his first two years. He is BY FAR the most consistent performer on the team and the runaway MVP, and yet he has only been voted SOTG 4 times out of 19 wins this year. Cadougan, who is maddeningly inconsistent this season, has as many SOTG's as Blue, as does Gardner, who fell into about a 5-6 game slump prior to last night. Oh well, let's hope we just keep winning so he can win a couple more.


Not taken for granted, much appreciated.   Vander is in the discussion nearly every game.  And I would completely agree that Blue's body of work makes him the runaway MVP for the season so far.   However, it is Stud of the Game.   Vander can have a good game, as he did against SH, and still lose because others felt another player had a better game, or impacted it more, or had a breakout performance that exceeded expectations (Juan and STjr).     So MVP, Blue.   SoG, whoever had the best game in a win.    If we did one of those hockey things where we gave out 3, he would get one nearly every game.
Title: Re: Seton Hall SOTG
Post by: Bocephys on February 21, 2013, 11:21:55 AM
Quote from: rocky_warrior on February 20, 2013, 09:33:16 PM
Despite all the votes for VB, Gardner gets it for great numbers (in 25 minutes), and finally securing the lead when Marquette needed it.

A ridiculous decision IMO.  When Vander only shows up for a half everyone has a coronary.  Gardner shows up for 10 minutes while Vander plays a complete game and Gardner gets all of the credit. 
Title: Re: Seton Hall SOTG
Post by: Golden Avalanche on February 21, 2013, 12:03:04 PM
Quote from: Bocephys on February 21, 2013, 11:21:55 AM
A ridiculous decision IMO.  When Vander only shows up for a half everyone has a coronary.  Gardner shows up for 10 minutes while Vander plays a complete game and Gardner gets all of the credit. 

People are taking Blue for granted and his performances are now accepted as "normal" whereas Gardner, due to body, personality, and style, always evokes an orgasmic reaction when he plays well.

In the end, it's all fun and games to foster discussion.
Title: Re: Seton Hall SOTG
Post by: RushmoreAcademy on February 21, 2013, 12:47:18 PM
Quote from: The Golden Avalanche on February 21, 2013, 12:03:04 PM

In the end, it's all fun and games to foster discussion.

This.
Taylor is on the board and he hasn't played 20 minutes in a game yet.   If I'm right, Frozena won once.
I also don't think Ox is getting all the credit. Everyone knows what Vander is and how important to the team he is.  He's as quick to be loved now as he was to be hated previously!  :)
Title: Re: Seton Hall SOTG
Post by: ATL MU Warrior on February 21, 2013, 12:54:05 PM
Quote from: RushmoreAcademy on February 21, 2013, 12:47:18 PM
This.
Taylor is on the board and he hasn't played 20 minutes in a game yet.   If I'm right, Frozena won once.
I also don't think Ox is getting all the credit. Everyone knows what Vander is and how important to the team he is.  He's as quick to be loved now as he was to be hated previously!  :)
Frozena did indeed win SOTG...over Chris Otule who was clearly the real SOTG. 

If Chris leaves after this season, this is clearly the reason.
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