From Sports Business Daily this morning
1) Judge denied motion by Maryland to throw out ACC $52M exit fee suit
2) Univ of Cincinnati Board of Trustees to vote today to approve expansion of Nippert Stadium Pavillion redesign in ongoing effort to gain entrance to ACC
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on February 19, 2013, 08:47:39 AM
From Sports Business Daily this morning
1) Judge denied motion by Maryland to throw out ACC $52M exit fee suit
2) Univ of Cincinnati Board of Trustees to vote today to approve expansion of Nippert Stadium Pavillion redesign in ongoing effort to gain entrance to ACC
Thanks for the info! This isn't the best of news, but I'm still optimistic that Maryland will only have to pay $20M at most. I don't think any conference additions/realignments will happen until this case is settled. Am I alone in rooting for the ACC to implode? Am I too optimistic in thinking that the implosion of the ACC will make traditional bball schools (Memphis, UCONN, Temple, Cincy, etc) realize that the SEC-fashioned, football-drives-the-bus mentality was a mistake?
anybody hear coach Ks comments after they lost to Maryland about that game not being a rivalry?
Something to the affect of "If it were a rivalry they wouldnt be leaving to the Big Ten"
funny stuff...
Quote from: M@RQUETTEW@RRIORS on February 19, 2013, 09:12:15 AM
anybody hear coach Ks comments after they lost to Maryland about that game not being a rivalry?
Something to the affect of "If it were a rivalry they wouldnt be leaving to the Big Ten"
funny stuff...
Coach K knows what's coming for the ACC.
Quote from: PTM on February 19, 2013, 09:24:48 AM
Coach K knows what's coming for the ACC.
Coach K is delusional if he thinks anything about basketball impacts conference realignment.
Quote from: TheGym on February 19, 2013, 09:46:39 AM
Coach K is delusional if he thinks anything about basketball impacts conference realignment.
I dont think he is delustional. That could maybe be why he is p!ssed off. Just maybe...
As I read here (can't remember/too lazy to find out who to attribute), Coach K is nothing but a whiny hypocrite. Teams defecting their long-standing conference affiliation was good and exciting to him when Pitt and Syracuse announced their departure to the ACC, but for some reason Coach K now feels the need to speak out against realignment because he might be affected. Nothing to see here, just another waste of time from someone who can't be respected on the topic.
Quote from: ElDonBDon on February 19, 2013, 09:07:31 AM
Am I too optimistic in thinking that the implosion of the ACC will make traditional bball schools (Memphis, UCONN, Temple, Cincy, etc) realize that the SEC-fashioned, football-drives-the-bus mentality was a mistake?
Initially I was hoping for an ACC implosion thinking it would help us out but with the C7 bolting and the current landscape, I don't think it matters one way or another. If the ACC gets gutted and they lose 6 programs, they will just pick and choose the best of the remaining Big East football schools so Cincy, UConn and maybe South Florida, Temple will replace those that left and they will be fine.
Regardless, we won't be getting a Duke or Boston College to drop their football programs or park it elsewhere and join the C7. Our best hope is to pick the right programs that are willing to elevate their programs to another level commitment wise.
IF UNC leaves. The ACC might be "fine" but it will be a complete shell of what it once was.
Quote from: mufanatic on February 19, 2013, 10:19:09 AM
Initially I was hoping for an ACC implosion thinking it would help us out but with the C7 bolting and the current landscape, I don't think it matters one way or another. If the ACC gets gutted and they lose 6 programs, they will just pick and choose the best of the remaining Big East football schools so Cincy, UConn and maybe South Florida, Temple will replace those that left and they will be fine.
Regardless, we won't be getting a Duke or Boston College to drop their football programs or park it elsewhere and join the C7. Our best hope is to pick the right programs that are willing to elevate their programs to another level commitment wise.
Our best hope is that somehow ND realizes the ACC isn't for them and the C7+ is. Beyond that, I agree none of this affects us much.
Quote from: TJ on February 19, 2013, 09:53:26 AM
As I read here (can't remember/too lazy to find out who to attribute), Coach K is nothing but a whiny hypocrite. Teams defecting their long-standing conference affiliation was good and exciting to him when Pitt and Syracuse announced their departure to the ACC, but for some reason Coach K now feels the need to speak out against realignment because he might be affected. Nothing to see here, just another waste of time from someone who can't be respected on the topic.
Actually Coach K and others were upset with the ACC when it went from 9 schools that played a true round robin to the bloated Va Tech-Miami-BC version it is today. Now he's smart enough to not whine too much about Pitt & Cuse because the other alternative is playing basketball with Tulane and UCF.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on February 19, 2013, 08:47:39 AM
From Sports Business Daily this morning
1) Judge denied motion by Maryland to throw out ACC $52M exit fee suit
Expected.
Quote from: MU82 on February 19, 2013, 10:23:05 AM
Our best hope is that somehow ND realizes the ACC isn't for them and the C7+ is. Beyond that, I agree none of this affects us much.
+1
If the ACC implodes and takes on USF, Cincy, UConn, Temple (or whoever among these type of schools) to replace UNC, Clemson (or whoever leaves) then it becomes a much weaker conference and maybe ND does not like that version of the ACC and considers jumping to the C7+
ND was not interested in aligning itself with BE football. I get that. So if the ACC includes most of the BE football schools plus second rate ACC football schools like BC, Wake, Duke, NC State, why is this any better?
Beyond the ND angle, an imploding ACC has no effect on us.
Quote from: The Lens on February 19, 2013, 10:35:01 AM
Actually Coach K and others were upset with the ACC when it went from 9 schools that played a true round robin to the bloated Va Tech-Miami-BC version it is today. Now he's smart enough to not whine too much about Pitt & Cuse because the other alternative is playing basketball with Tulane and UCF.
So he was upset about it 8 years ago, excited about it last year when it made his conference better, and now he's whining about it again. Why should anyone care about his fair-weather opinion on the subject? Shut up and go tape some American Express ads.
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/6985115/mike-krzyzewski-says-pittsburgh-panthers-syracuse-orange-coup-acc (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/6985115/mike-krzyzewski-says-pittsburgh-panthers-syracuse-orange-coup-acc)
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/855652-coach-k-on-acc-adding-syracuse-and-pitt-its-pretty-exciting (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/855652-coach-k-on-acc-adding-syracuse-and-pitt-its-pretty-exciting)
http://pittsburgh.sbnation.com/pittsburgh-panthers/2011/9/17/2432450/big-east-expansion-pitt-syracuse-to-acc-football-expansion-mike-krzyzewski-pittsburgh-panthers (http://pittsburgh.sbnation.com/pittsburgh-panthers/2011/9/17/2432450/big-east-expansion-pitt-syracuse-to-acc-football-expansion-mike-krzyzewski-pittsburgh-panthers)
Quote from: M@RQUETTEW@RRIORS on February 19, 2013, 09:12:15 AM
anybody hear coach Ks comments after they lost to Maryland about that game not being a rivalry?
Something to the affect of "If it were a rivalry they wouldnt be leaving to the Big Ten"
funny stuff...
I wonder if he'll try that line if/when North Carolina leaves.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on February 19, 2013, 08:47:39 AM
From Sports Business Daily this morning
1) Judge denied motion by Maryland to throw out ACC $52M exit fee suit
I assume all that that means is that whether the exit fee is enforceable must be determined by trial.
Per Brandon Castel @BCastOZone today:
Reports out of Maryland indicating the Big Ten has extended an invitation to UNC. Georgia Tech and Virginia also being discussed.
Take it for what its worth. Castel covers Ohio State here in Columbus.
apparently @insidemdsports reporting that #NorthCarolina has an offer to join the #B1G.
All of this from twitter.
Quote from: CbusWarrior on February 19, 2013, 01:40:19 PM
Per Brandon Castel @BCastOZone today:
Reports out of Maryland indicating the Big Ten has extended an invitation to UNC. Georgia Tech and Virginia also being discussed.
Take it for what its worth. Castel covers Ohio State here in Columbus.
Interesting that the fourth best football conference gets to call all the shots.
Quote from: Groin_pull on February 19, 2013, 01:45:09 PM
Interesting that the fourth best football conference wealthiest conference gets to call all the shots.
FIFY.
Quote from: honkytonk on February 19, 2013, 01:53:55 PM
FIFY.
I totally get where you're coming from. They have the deepest pockets—and a mediocre product.
Quote from: Groin_pull on February 19, 2013, 02:00:25 PM
I totally get where you're coming from. They have the deepest pockets—and a mediocre product.
OSU will be a title contender very soon. Michigan is still rebounding. The SEC doesnt have more than 2 title contenders in given year (at best). Maybe the SEC is better top to bottom but who cares about the middle of the pack teams?
Quote from: honkytonk on February 19, 2013, 02:06:48 PM
OSU will be a title contender very soon. Michigan is still rebounding. The SEC doesnt have more than 2 title contenders in given year (at best). Maybe the SEC is better top to bottom but who cares about the middle of the pack teams?
The also win the title every year....
Quote from: honkytonk on February 19, 2013, 02:06:48 PM
OSU will be a title contender very soon. Michigan is still rebounding. The SEC doesnt have more than 2 title contenders in given year (at best). Maybe the SEC is better top to bottom but who cares about the middle of the pack teams?
I think some here overplay the weaknesss of the Big Ten in basketball and football but let's be realistic here. All the Big Ten has is middle of the pack teams.
Since 1990, they have had a total of FOUR teams playing for the National Championship. That's 8% of the total. If you figure six conferences (admittedly excluding Notre Dame) they should be 17% JUST TO BE AVERAGE.
One cannot reasonably compare the Big Ten and SEC in football. Your best teams in the B10 would rarely if ever make it to the SEC title game.
Quote from: honkytonk on February 19, 2013, 02:06:48 PM
OSU will be a title contender very soon. Michigan is still rebounding. The SEC doesnt have more than 2 title contenders in given year (at best). Maybe the SEC is better top to bottom but who cares about the middle of the pack teams?
Who cares? This guy does...http://sports.yahoo.com/news/ncaaf--urban-meyer-challenges-big-ten-rivals-to-improve-their-recruiting-230119562.html
Quote from: honkytonk on February 19, 2013, 02:06:48 PM
OSU will be a title contender very soon. Michigan is still rebounding. The SEC doesnt have more than 2 title contenders in given year (at best). Maybe the SEC is better top to bottom but who cares about the middle of the pack teams?
Are you high...or just a silly Big 10 backer? Alabama...Florida...LSU...Georgia...and now, Texas A&M. I'm not even including a solid team like Arkansas. The Big 10 wishes it had that kind of depth.
Quote from: Groin_pull on February 19, 2013, 03:22:51 PM
Are you high...or just a silly Big 10 backer? Alabama...Florida...LSU...Georgia...and now, Texas A&M. I'm not even including a solid team like Arkansas. The Big 10 wishes it had that kind of depth.
Two words: Playoff format.
And its obvious you dont pay attention to college fball...
Quote from: M@RQUETTEW@RRIORS on February 19, 2013, 09:12:15 AM
anybody hear coach Ks comments after they lost to Maryland about that game not being a rivalry?
Something to the affect of "If it were a rivalry they wouldnt be leaving to the Big Ten"
funny stuff...
I wonder if that cock sucker didn't say the same thing when Pitt and Syracuse left for the ACC?
Quote from: CbusWarrior on February 19, 2013, 01:40:19 PM
Per Brandon Castel @BCastOZone today:
Reports out of Maryland indicating the Big Ten has extended an invitation to UNC. Georgia Tech and Virginia also being discussed.
Take it for what its worth. Castel covers Ohio State here in Columbus.
Gene Smith is the biggest diarrhea mouth in college sports. Guy can't keep his mouth shut. Like Larry Williams he too is a Notre Dame alumnus.
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Quote from: keefe on February 20, 2013, 02:39:48 AM
I wonder if that cock sucker didn't say the same thing when Pitt and Syracuse left for the ACC?
I linked to it earlier in this very thread...
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/6985115/mike-krzyzewski-says-pittsburgh-panthers-syracuse-orange-coup-acc (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/6985115/mike-krzyzewski-says-pittsburgh-panthers-syracuse-orange-coup-acc)
QuoteDuke coach Mike Krzyzewski said Saturday night grabbing Syracuse and Pittsburgh away from the Big East would be a major coup.
"It's actually pretty exciting," Krzyzewski said. "I think it's great for our conference football-wise, even better basketball-wise. Wherever this is going to end up, four big-time conferences or five, whatever it is, you want to be perceived as No. 1 in football and basketball.
"The last few years the ACC has lost some of that but over the last 25 years if you had to pick the best conference in basketball it is the ACC. Lately, it hasn't been that. It's been a really good conference. But to me this is in some ways a coup for basketball."
Quote from: honkytonk on February 19, 2013, 09:44:52 PM
Two words: Playoff format.
And its obvious you dont pay attention to college fball...
I'm talking about conference depth. And each year, the SEC has more than two title contenders. The Big 10 has OSU and Michigan (sort of). The SEC has Alabama, Florida, LSU, Georgia, and Texas A&M.
Quote from: Groin_pull on February 20, 2013, 11:06:48 AM
I'm talking about conference depth. And each year, the SEC has more than two title contenders. The Big 10 has OSU and Michigan (sort of). The SEC has Alabama, Florida, LSU, Georgia, and Texas A&M.
And Auburn and South Carolina.
Heck, although Tennessee has been in a down late, they were a consistent contender for most of Phil Fulmer era.