TC craps in his pants again!!
What an ending. 13-2 run to end it for the Illini. I have never seen such a relaxed in-bound pass under similar circumstances. Brandon Paul too cool.
The Illini fan in me is extremely happy.
You really should get him out.
And less than a week after the Harbaugh Bowl. Tanned Tommy falls to the very bottom of the Harbaugh totem pole once more.
Wow does Illinois have some huge wins and some confusing losses.
I can't recall ever seeing a game end that way. With less than a second left, why didn't IU go zone off that in-bound?
Should they just retire the #1 spot this year? Seriously, who deserves it next week? Florida just got whooped. Michigan again if they beat the Badgers? Duke again (currently getting throttled by State in Cameron)? Kansas pissed away their chance with that bad loss.
Quote from: chapman on February 07, 2013, 08:19:16 PM
Should they just retire the #1 spot this year? Seriously, who deserves it next week? Florida just got whooped. Michigan again if they beat the Badgers? Duke again (currently getting throttled by State in Cameron)? Kansas pissed away their chance with that bad loss.
At this rate IU could still be #1 next week as everyone under them is also losing.
Must have been some quality in-game adjustments by Crean down the stretch.
Quote from: chapman on February 07, 2013, 08:19:16 PM
Should they just retire the #1 spot this year? Seriously, who deserves it next week? Florida just got whooped. Michigan again if they beat the Badgers? Duke again (currently getting throttled by State in Cameron)? Kansas pissed away their chance with that bad loss.
?? I've got Duke throttling State on my score center
At this rate, might as well make Marquette the #1 team.
Missed the end. How was TT's handshake?
Quote from: LloydMooresLegs on February 07, 2013, 08:29:33 PM
?? I've got Duke throttling State on my score center
Duke is like up 19 with 7 minutes left in the first half.
Buzz and the DB from the Broncos are both off of the hook for worst end of game defensive call of the year.
Quote from: GoldenZebra on February 07, 2013, 08:31:20 PM
At this rate, might as well make Marquette the #1 team.
Could it be the Zags?
This has been one crazy season.
If last years team was playing in the crazy NCAA this year we would be top 5.
:-[
Quote from: RJax55 on February 07, 2013, 08:16:23 PM
I can't recall ever seeing a game end that way. With less than a second left, why didn't IU go zone off that in-bound?
Sideline out of bounds with .9 seconds left - how does a guy end up standing alone under the basket with no one within 20 feet of him? Incredible.
http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=170&f=2353&t=11268871
Doesn't do postgame interview, sending Coach Buckley in his stead. ::)
Quote from: Lennys Tap on February 07, 2013, 09:05:00 PM
:-[
Sideline out of bounds with .9 seconds left - how does a guy end up standing alone under the basket with no one within 20 feet of him? Incredible.
Incredible breakdown... Horrible communication. I'm not a TC basher, but he screwed-up badly. Have to zone that in-bound there and keep the ball out of the paint.
Quote from: RJax55 on February 07, 2013, 09:13:54 PM
Incredible breakdown... Horrible communication. I'm not a TC basher, but he screwed-up badly. Have to zone that in-bound there and keep the ball out of the paint.
Even when "Shooter" had the shakes he still reminded the boys not to get caught watchin' the paint dry.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on February 07, 2013, 09:22:13 PM
Even when "Shooter" had the shakes he still reminded the boys not to get caught watch in' the paint dry.
Hahahahahaha. That was great.
If 1 through 23 all lose does that makes us number one?
Quote from: tower912 on February 07, 2013, 09:09:41 PM
http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=170&f=2353&t=11268871
Doesn't do postgame interview, sending Coach Buckley in his stead. ::)
Crean doesn't even have the balls to do the postgame interview o
Man do I hate to here Fisch say, "We are waiting on coach Buckley to join us". Especially after a major let down like this game was!
Did he ever have balls?!!
Quote from: TallTitan34 on February 07, 2013, 09:26:57 PM
If 1 through 23 all lose does that makes us number one?
Why is this in teal? This year it is a reasonable question.
Quote from: tower912 on February 07, 2013, 09:09:41 PM
http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=170&f=2353&t=11268871
Doesn't do postgame interview, sending Coach Buckley in his stead. ::)
Must've learned that move from Jim.
Quote from: chapman on February 07, 2013, 08:19:16 PM
Florida just got whooped.
FL is still the only team i've watched a number of times this year, that when playing well, looked well better than any other team i've seen play. i didn't see the arkansas game, but a quick look at the box score made me think they didn't decide to play until the 2nd half.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on February 07, 2013, 09:05:00 PM
:-[
Sideline out of bounds with .9 seconds left - how does a guy end up standing alone under the basket with no one within 20 feet of him? Incredible.
'Cause a leopard never changes his spots.
A little loss tonight isn't gonna change a thing. 'Cause Too Tan Tommy will always be #1 in my poll.
Quote from: chapman on February 07, 2013, 08:19:16 PM
Should they just retire the #1 spot this year? Seriously, who deserves it next week? Florida just got whooped. Michigan again if they beat the Badgers? Duke again (currently getting throttled by State in Cameron)? Kansas pissed away their chance with that bad loss.
Well, I think Pomeroy is overdue to have the Badgers at No. 1, no?
My favorite thing about the ending was that Oladipo gave the ball away with an unnecessary behind-the-back dribble in traffic and then Zeller lost his man on the inbounds. Very possibly two PoY finalists. Crazy season!
beating Iowa at home in double OT likely moved them up 10 spots in Pomeroy
Quote from: MU82 on February 07, 2013, 09:50:37 PM
Well, I think Pomeroy is overdue to have the Badgers at No. 1, no?
Crean to good to do a post-game and gives a handshake like he did to Bo Ryan, what a wimp..
Quote from: 4everwarriors on February 07, 2013, 09:44:45 PM
A little loss tonight isn't gonna change a thing. 'Cause Too Tan Tommy will always be #1 in my poll.
Chicos?
Quote from: tower912 on February 07, 2013, 09:09:41 PM
http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=170&f=2353&t=11268871
Doesn't do postgame interview, sending Coach Buckley in his stead. ::)
He did post game comments and took questions.
Quote from: Jay Bee on February 07, 2013, 10:21:52 PM
He did post game comments and took questions.
For TV, but the Hoosier boards say he ditched the radio post game show.
Bottom line, Indiana is average away from Assembly Hall. Look at the past 2 years disparity:
- 2011-12 Indiana was 18-1 at home, including wins over Pomeroy's #1, #2, and #3 teams.
- 2011-12 Indiana was 9-8 away from home, including losses to #86 Iowa and #158 Nebraska while struggling with #127 Penn State
- 2012-13 Indiana has dominated at home. No team outside Pomeroy's top-15 has been within 25 points of them. 14-1 record, only loss to Bo Ryan, who Crean simply cannot beat.
- 2012-13 Indiana trailed a bad Georgia at halftime, needed overtime to beat a seemingly inferior Georgetown team, and lost to both Butler and Illinois away from home.
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It's been said before that Assembly Hall is the biggest homecourt advantage in the country, and I believe that to be true. Kudos to IU for their work at home, but get the out of the friendly confines and they are very beatable.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on February 07, 2013, 10:29:57 PM
For TV, but the Hoosier boards say he ditched the radio post game show.
Are you serious with this? Cmon.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on February 07, 2013, 09:22:13 PM
Even when "Shooter" had the shakes he still reminded the boys not to get caught watchin' the paint dry.
Tommy Boy ain't no Shooter
Agreed Tommy is no Shooter. Shooter forgot more about ball than TC knows. Not sure if Shooter would have been great recruiter though. In house visits might have been dicey.
Quote from: newsdrms on February 07, 2013, 09:30:41 PM
Did he ever have balls?!!
The guy won't even wear a suit on the weekend when all the coaches wear sneakers. All the other coaches are out there with their suits on, and sneakers on their feet, well aware of how it looks - which is actually the point. Not Crean. He wont be seen in a suit and sneakers, so he runs out there every every year in the wind shirt and warm up pants.
Sounds a bit trivial I know, but its driven me nuts for years, and speaks volumes about how vain he is.
MU had a couple of end-game brain melts in the last few weeks. Same guy, two different variations of the same mistake. So I am reluctant to be too critical of the last play other than to say a zone might have worked better. (again learning from MU, assuming that everyone knew they were supposed to be in a zone) In the big picture, it is another #1 team losing another conference road game. And I think it is a fair question to the teams and fanbases involved whether they would prefer to lose like Florida did to Arkansas or how IU did at Illinois. Or to bring it home, which was less painful, the loss to Cinci or the loss to Louisville?
Crean is an effective recruiter, a good marketer and cheerleader, excellent at preparation and average in game. I don't know if that combination wins a national championship.
Yeah, he had that solid game prep for Kansas with only a week to get ready, aina?
(http://www.clanram.com/forums/attachments/f11/1228d1287291494-rams-chargers-game-aired-la-beat_dead_horse.jpg)
Rumor has it that I4 was seen in a Bloomington Target, in the back corner by the men's underwear. He had a hat pulled low, a cart and was shuffling akwardly.
Horse is very much alive - he speaks, for god sakes!
Quote from: Goose on February 08, 2013, 07:19:00 AM
Agreed Tommy is no Shooter. Shooter forgot more about ball than TC knows. Not sure if Shooter would have been great recruiter though. In house visits might have been dicey.
"Hey, uh, ya got somethin to drink..."
Much rather have a decent common drinker in my living room than a Bronzed Beast of Bloomington pulling up in a tricked out Hummer at midnight
Quote from: tower912 on February 07, 2013, 08:26:10 PM
Must have been some quality in-game adjustments by Crean down the stretch.
LOL. They led by 9 with 3 minutes to go, practically the same lead they had at halftime (12). The "adjustments" were just fine....just as the "adjustments" made against #1 Michigan the other day were just fine and yielded 80 response threads here...oh wait. LOL. You miss free throws and the turn the ball over at the end and give up threes, you lose. #1, #2, #5 all lost this week so far. Been a fun year, that's for sure. Illinois is a hard team to figure out. Wins over Butler, at Gonzaga, Indiana, Ohio State. Better than losing at UWGB, apparently Buzz didn't make some quality in-game adjustments down the stretch.
I said a few weeks ago IU will be a 3 seed, sticking to it. Will lose three more Big Ten games and probably the semis or finals of the Big Ten Tournament. Finish around 10th in the country...3 seed.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on February 08, 2013, 11:50:44 AM
Better than losing at UWGB, apparently Buzz didn't make some quality in-game adjustments down the stretch.
There it is. Cue the stooge comment
I would agree with most of that. I would actually give IU a 2 seed, simply because it has been shown that all of the top teams this year have flaws and they do have some skills. I think Crean's biggest mistake was the one that Buzz made against Pitt. The other team was out of timeouts so he didn't want to call a timeout and give his opponent a chance to set up a play. Well, there was only one way MU/IU could get beat. A three/layup. And because Buzz/Crean's team was not all on the same page at the end, they gave up the one shot that could send the game to OT/beat them. But to give up a lead like that and still have TO's in your pocket at the end is a mistake. When Illini got hot and was raining 3's, not going to a 'no-help' mentality to avoid leaving the 3 pt shooter open is a mistake. But I said the same general things about Crean when he was at MU.
Quote from: keefe on February 08, 2013, 11:55:47 AM
There it is. Cue the stooge comment
Just pointing out the illogical double standard hypocrisy that lives to this day....5 long years later. Entertaining.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on February 08, 2013, 01:02:43 PM
Just pointing out the illogical double standard hypocrisy that lives to this day....5 long years later. Entertaining.
just admit you don't like Buzz. For whatever reason. It's ok. A lot of us don't like Crean and we're honest about that. You'll feel better.
Hows about you guys take this debate into private messaging? Thanks.
Quote from: keefe on February 08, 2013, 12:44:30 AM
Tommy Boy ain't no Shooter
Have you ever seen him off diet Pepsi for two days?
Quote from: tower912 on February 08, 2013, 08:03:31 AM
MU had a couple of end-game brain melts in the last few weeks. Same guy, two different variations of the same mistake. So I am reluctant to be too critical of the last play other than to say a zone might have worked better. (again learning from MU, assuming that everyone knew they were supposed to be in a zone) In the big picture, it is another #1 team losing another conference road game. And I think it is a fair question to the teams and fanbases involved whether they would prefer to lose like Florida did to Arkansas or how IU did at Illinois. Or to bring it home, which was less painful, the loss to Cinci or the loss to Louisville?
Crean is an effective recruiter, a good marketer and cheerleader, excellent at preparation and average in game. I don't know if that combination wins a national championship.
Same used to be said about Bill Self, Lute Olson, Jim Boeheim and even Roy Williams. Not saying Crean is anywhere near their class, just saying it sometimes is unfair to label folks.
Those assessments were true for a long time until those coaches figured it out. Crean is still fairly young. Like all of us, he has the potential to learn and grow. And he has won a large part of the battle by recruiting Indiana so well. Having lots of talent on your team can overcome a lot.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on February 08, 2013, 11:50:44 AM
I said a few weeks ago IU will be a 3 seed, sticking to it. Will lose three more Big Ten games and probably the semis or finals of the Big Ten Tournament. Finish around 10th in the country...3 seed.
They were a 4 last year, returned everyone and added high school AA point guard Yogi Farrell.
College bball is waaaay down at the top this year. IU started the season as #1, haven't fallen below#7 and are #1 now (in February) and in first place in college basketball's toughest conference. For them to fall to a 3 seed would take a major swoon. Who are the 8 (or 9 or 10 or 11) teams you see seeded ahead of them? I don't see it.