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Title: Big east power rankings
Post by: JTBMU7 on February 01, 2013, 07:51:26 AM
On espn has MU second and louisville 3, which isn't a huge surprise. But the segment leads off with this:

"To death and taxes, I add Marquette. The Golden Eagles are the one thing you can count on annually. A year after losing the Big East's player of the year and league's leading scorer (and they were two different people) Buzz Williams' team is back again, tied atop the leaderboard with Syracuse. Despite seven consecutive trips to the NCAA tournament, Marquette still somehow manages to sneak up on people.
Maybe we ought to start paying closer attention."

Title: Re: Big east power rankings
Post by: jsglow on February 01, 2013, 08:26:46 AM
Nice.
Title: Re: Big east power rankings
Post by: RushmoreAcademy on February 01, 2013, 08:29:22 AM
Death and Taxes.   Where was this writer when we were looking for new mascots?  Gold?  No. The Marquette Death and Taxes.   That can sell.
Title: Re: Big east power rankings
Post by: Benny B on February 01, 2013, 09:43:34 AM
Wow... we've officially become the UW of the Big East.
Title: Re: Big east power rankings
Post by: LAMUfan on February 01, 2013, 10:14:23 AM
Quote from: RushmoreAcademy on February 01, 2013, 08:29:22 AM
Death and Taxes.   Where was this writer when we were looking for new mascots?  Gold?  No. The Marquette Death and Taxes.   That can sell.

things that you can rely on, expect to happen, etc.  you have to die, there will be taxes, and MU is going to be good  ;D
Title: Re: Big east power rankings
Post by: jficke13 on February 01, 2013, 10:21:36 AM
Quote from: Benny B on February 01, 2013, 09:43:34 AM
Wow... we've officially become the UW of the Big East.

you bite your tongue
Title: Re: Big east power rankings
Post by: Windyplayer on February 01, 2013, 10:55:56 AM
Quote from: Benny B on February 01, 2013, 09:43:34 AM
Wow... we've officially become the UW of the Big East.
A scrappy team that always defies expectations. I'll take that similarity between the two teams. That's as far as I'll go though.
Title: Re: Big east power rankings
Post by: boyonthedock on February 01, 2013, 11:19:36 AM
If this year holds, we will be the only team to make the NCAA tournament every year of the new big east. Which is pretty good, considering the teams we share a conference with.
Title: Re: Big east power rankings
Post by: Tugg Speedman on February 01, 2013, 11:22:54 AM
Quote from: boyonthedock on February 01, 2013, 11:19:36 AM
If this year holds, we will be the only team to make the NCAA tournament every year of the new big east. Which is pretty good, considering the teams we share a conference with.

With Pitt not making it last year, I thought we already achieved that distinction. 
Title: Re: Big east power rankings
Post by: wardle2wade on February 01, 2013, 12:35:29 PM
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on February 01, 2013, 11:22:54 AM
With Pitt not making it last year, I thought we already achieved that distinction. 

Yes, we did already have that distinction last year.  Pretty great stat.

If/when we make it again this year, Marquette will be the trivia answer to this question...  "When the Big East was a legendary super-conference, who was the only team to make it every year before it self-destruct?"

Also very noteworthy... as of today, MU is only 3 games back from Syracuse for best conf record since the start of the new Big East.  We are currently in 4th place... 2.5 games behind Louisville and 1 game behind Pitt.  Pretty amazing accomplishment considering all the talented Big East teams to come through over the years.  There are also still great opportunities to pick up more ground this season. 

There is something to be said for consistency at a high level.  Hats off to Buzz that we didn't even have a brief drop-off after the coaching switch and the resulting roster turnover.  Hard to believe that it was almost 5 years ago.
Title: Re: Big east power rankings
Post by: TallTitan34 on February 01, 2013, 12:36:03 PM
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on February 01, 2013, 11:22:54 AM
With Pitt not making it last year, I thought we already achieved that distinction. 

But hey, they won the CBI last year. 
Title: Re: Big east power rankings
Post by: Sunbelt15 on February 01, 2013, 03:01:40 PM
But with all the success, when do we start seeing the Final 4 of yesteryear.
Title: Re: Big east power rankings
Post by: tower912 on February 01, 2013, 03:16:59 PM
When a trancendent player arrives or we get hot for 2 straight weeks.   It could be this year, it could be next, it could be two years from now....who knows?    VCU goes from being controversial even getting in to the final 4 because they got hot at the right time.     If, 7 weeks from now, all the pieces fall into place and the 3pt shots start falling at  a 40% clip, JWilson starts taking over games and everybody clicks, it could be us.   Right now, it is a long shot at best.    Injuries and luck plays a huge factor, too.  
Title: Re: Big east power rankings
Post by: wardle2wade on February 01, 2013, 03:53:01 PM
Quote from: Sunbelt15 on February 01, 2013, 03:01:40 PM
But with all the success, when do we start seeing the Final 4 of yesteryear.

Sunbelt15 - Genuine question, what screen name were you before this?  Thanks
Title: Re: Big east power rankings
Post by: Sunbelt15 on February 01, 2013, 04:38:07 PM
Quote from: wardle2wade on February 01, 2013, 03:53:01 PM
Sunbelt15 - Genuine question, what screen name were you before this?  Thanks

Just a rookie. Why?
Title: Re: Big east power rankings
Post by: RushmoreAcademy on February 02, 2013, 08:47:31 AM
Quote from: LAMUfan on February 01, 2013, 10:14:23 AM
things that you can rely on, expect to happen, etc.  you have to die, there will be taxes, and MU is going to be good  ;D

Yes, I understood the reference.... was just making a terrible joke.
Title: Re: Big east power rankings
Post by: MU82 on February 02, 2013, 09:16:03 AM
Quote from: Benny B on February 01, 2013, 09:43:34 AM
Wow... we've officially become the UW of the Big East.

Gotta admit, I thought the exact same thing. I often underestimate the Badgers and they are almost always good. None of us likes being mentioned with the Badgers, but there is worse company to keep. I mean, better them than Northwestern, right?
Title: Re: Big east power rankings
Post by: MU82 on February 02, 2013, 09:16:59 AM
Quote from: tower912 on February 01, 2013, 03:16:59 PM
When a trancendent player arrives or we get hot for 2 straight weeks.   It could be this year, it could be next, it could be two years from now....who knows?    VCU goes from being controversial even getting in to the final 4 because they got hot at the right time.     If, 7 weeks from now, all the pieces fall into place and the 3pt shots start falling at  a 40% clip, JWilson starts taking over games and everybody clicks, it could be us.   Right now, it is a long shot at best.    Injuries and luck plays a huge factor, too.  

Luck is HUGE. We had more than a little luck in 2003 and 1977. Need all that other stuff, but need the bounces probably more than anything else.
Title: Re: Big east power rankings
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on February 02, 2013, 09:24:05 AM
Quote from: MU82 on February 02, 2013, 09:16:59 AM
Luck is HUGE. We had more than a little luck in 2003 and 1977. Need all that other stuff, but need the bounces probably more than anything else.

Pomeroy has MU as the 26th Luckiest team.
Title: Re: Big east power rankings
Post by: tower912 on February 02, 2013, 09:26:54 AM
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on February 02, 2013, 09:24:05 AM
Pomeroy has MU as the 26th Luckiest team.

Two shots go differently (Clarke, Thomas) and not only are we far luckier, we are ranked in the top 15.
Title: Re: Big east power rankings
Post by: MU82 on February 02, 2013, 01:23:24 PM
Quote from: tower912 on February 02, 2013, 09:26:54 AM
Two shots go differently (Clarke, Thomas) and not only are we far luckier, we are ranked in the top 15.

Or, two shots go differently (Cadougan vs. UConn; Georgetown's Greg Whittington), and we're not even listed in others receiving votes. The what-if game is a useless exercise.
Title: Re: Big east power rankings
Post by: tower912 on February 02, 2013, 01:51:32 PM
I agree that what-ifs don't accomplish a lot.   We have played a lot of close games.   We've about broken even in one possession/OT games.   We are very close to being top 15, we are very close to being a bubble team.  It is all in how you look at it.  
Title: Re: Big east power rankings
Post by: Sunbelt15 on February 02, 2013, 02:17:07 PM
Quote from: tower912 on February 02, 2013, 01:51:32 PM
I agree that what-ifs don't accomplish a lot.   We have played a lot of close games.   We've about broken even in one possesion/OT games.   We are very close to being top 15, we are very close to being a bubble team.  It is all in how you look at it. 

Agree. A lose in Carrier Classic may have hurt. A missed prayer in the Butler game may have helped. It's basketball! Team confidence shows in post season.
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