In the last 10 games Ferguson has played a total of 3 minutes. 2 minutes against NC Central and 1 minute against Seton Hall.
Over the same 10 games Jake Thomas played 13 minutes spread over 8 games.
Even Dylan Flood got into the game tonight.
This is starting to remind me of Pat Hazell a few years ago. Buzz NEVER played him down the stretch and he left. Buzz is now running Flood into the game before Ferguson. Is this a message?
Thoughts?
If I remember correctly, Hazell had an off-the-court incident that was part of the problem.
Ferguson came in at the same time.
Nobody plays 12 guys. Juan got the same treatment last year, and he is really big for this team.
Ferguson played at the end right along with Flood...
Hazel enjoyed horticultural pursuits that conflicted with team rules.
Quote from: keefe on January 28, 2013, 10:29:26 PM
Hazel enjoyed horticultural pursuits that conflicted with team rules.
Also heard a story involving ATMs...
Ferguson got in a whistle before Flood. Thomas has the advantage because he's in his fourth year of college and second with the program, Ferguson is a freshman. Patience.
Quote from: martyconlonontherun on January 28, 2013, 10:27:57 PM
If I remember correctly, Hazell had an off-the-court incident that was part of the problem.
You remember correctly...
Quote from: keefe on January 28, 2013, 10:29:26 PM
Hazel enjoyed horticultural pursuits that conflicted with team rules.
Did not know that ... thanks
And no I'm not suggesting the same with Jamal, just that he NEVER plays like Hazell.
And this says Ferguson did not play tonight
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/61216/jamal-ferguson
This says Flood played tonight
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/62792/dylan-flood
So you didn't even watch the game? Ferguson played.
Why does everybody freak out? Ferguson is a freshman. A lot of freshmen get a lot of bench time and in time become contributors. Let's wait a few years before we write the kid off.
Just wait til next year when we have a ton of guys coming in and only a few going out with JT being off scholie.
Well, we do need to clear a schollie for next year. I'd say the leading candidates are Ferguson and mayo.
Quote from: dwaderoy2004 on January 28, 2013, 10:33:52 PM
So you didn't even watch the game? Ferguson played.
Watched the entire game ... I must have looked away for the three seconds Ferguson was in. I did see Flood in the game which prompted this thread.
Quote from: dwaderoy2004 on January 28, 2013, 10:41:13 PM
Well, we do need to clear a schollie for next year. I'd say the leading candidates are Ferguson and mayo.
Glad we're starting this thread up again! We don't have enough yet!
Quote from: martyconlonontherun on January 28, 2013, 10:30:43 PM
Also heard a story involving ATMs...
kid ended up going to BU where he made a home for himself
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on January 28, 2013, 10:41:22 PM
Watched the entire game ... I must have looked away for the three seconds Ferguson was in. I did see Flood in the game which prompted this thread.
They entered the game at the same time - might want to call the optometrist - just saying.
Why is anyone surprised?
Eric Williams, Top 100, GONE
Jamail Jones, Top 100, GONE
I'm surprised that Juan Anderson is actually playing.
I love Buzz, but until tonight we were not sure he could recruit a four year player. Stop acting like this JF stuff is such a big surprise.
Quote from: The Lens on January 29, 2013, 01:25:09 AM
Eric Williams, Top 100, GONE
I wrote Jason Hooten, the coach of SHSU about Erik:
Coach
What happened with Erik Williams? I noticed he is no longer on the roster. The kid had incredible potential!
Hooten replied:
Thanks for the email and concern. Just didn't work out.
Quote from: The Lens on January 29, 2013, 01:25:09 AM
Why is anyone surprised?
Eric Williams, Top 100, GONE
Jamail Jones, Top 100, GONE
I'm surprised that Juan Anderson is actually playing.
I love Buzz, but until tonight we were not sure he could recruit a four year player. Stop acting like this JF stuff is such a big surprise.
Blue, Gardner, Otule, Taylor, Dwill, Anderson, Mayo and 4 of the five guys in the next year's class, one the highest in MU's history ... and you were not sure until LAST NIGHT Buzz could recruit a four year player?
Troll
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on January 29, 2013, 05:48:28 AM
Blue, Gardner, Otule, Taylor, Dwill, Anderson, Mayo and 4 of the five guys in the next year's class, one the highest in MU's history ... and you were not sure until LAST NIGHT Buzz could recruit a four year player?
Troll
Not to mention Junior Cadougan, who's working out pretty well as a 4-year player.
Jamal Ferguson = Freshman finding his way, behind a lot of good players. He has athleticism and skill. There just isn't anywhere in the rotation for him right now. Hazell....did it to himself. That team was desperate for a little size and he not only failed to produce on court but got into trouble off court. So his minutes went to Butler. Who used them to produce.
Quote from: The Lens on January 29, 2013, 01:25:09 AM
Why is anyone surprised?
Eric Williams, Top 100, GONE
Jamail Jones, Top 100, GONE
I'm surprised that Juan Anderson is actually playing.
I love Buzz, but until tonight we were not sure he could recruit a four year player. Stop acting like this JF stuff is such a big surprise.
Ah, we've reached the "Buzz needs to play our highly rated underclassmen more" part of the season.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on January 29, 2013, 07:51:27 AM
Ah, we've reached the "Buzz needs to play our highly rated underclassmen more" part of the season.
6-1, peeps gotta find something to bitch about.
Where's the checklist?
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on January 29, 2013, 07:51:27 AM
Ah, we've reached the "Buzz needs to play our highly rated underclassmen more" part of the season.
Please don't lump me in with that crowd. I have never complained about PT and I feel like I understand how it is earned.
I was merely pointing out that we have seen Top 100 guys come and go, we shouldn't be surprised. Let's face it, TO DATE Buzz's incredible success is not because of the maturation of Eric Williams or Jeronne Maymon or the immediate impact of Jamail Jones or Reggie Smith but unbelievable JuCos like Jae, Jimmy & DJO.
Vander and Junior seem to be bucking that trend now...which is great.
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on January 29, 2013, 05:48:28 AM
Blue, Gardner, Otule, Taylor, Dwill, Anderson, Mayo and 4 of the five guys in the next year's class, one the highest in MU's history ... and you were not sure until LAST NIGHT Buzz could recruit a four year player?
Troll
A recruit decommits or a player transfers from a Division I university to another Division I university?! That RARELY happens!
A freshman player has difficulty getting playing time because there are 4-5 upperclassmen who play the same position ahead of him on the depth chart, and a coach who doesn't have a big history of playing freshmen big minutes?! NO WAY.
A Scoop poster cherry picks TWO examples out of the giant pool of data to show a "trend", and to mold it into a spectacularly DERPY argument?! That RARELY happens!
Also, the original post equating Ferguson with Hazel--NO...JUST, NO. No.
Nobody plays 12. Jamal is going to have to earn his opportunity in practice. If he develops in the way that Juan has, he'll have a place. If he doesn't, he may make the decision to stay or he may look for greener pastures. No different than any other Frosh that shows up. Plus there's absolutely no indication that he's anything other than a top notch kid.
And this statement about Buzz not developing 4 year players is just laughable. I'm pretty sure there isn't a Juco on the roster now. (Heck, we've got 2 kids in freakin' grad school.) We've needed Jucos in the past (most of whom were fully qualified out of high school) to balance the classes and fill an empty cupboard post Three Amigos. Fantastic that most worked out wonderfully, both on AND off the court.
Do you think Ferguson would have redshirted if Buzz and him knew how little he'd play? Related, I wish Junior wouldn't have given up a year of eligibility to have an insignificant contribution his freshman year.
Can you believe Mbakwe blew a year of eligibility just like Junior and he's still playing college ball something like six years later. I imagine he has played the fewest games for anybody who has been in college as long as he has. If I were a Minnesota fan, I would nickname him Dr. Mbakwe.
Juan was hurt last year, Ferguson is not (as far as we know).
And again, I'm asking why Buzz cannot find him a few minutes in games that are firmly in hand like Providence and USF, not why he is not part of the rotation. He's played 3 minutes in the last 10 games.
Is the ghost of Ewill at Louisville behind this decision?
Quote from: Mufflers on January 29, 2013, 09:26:53 AM
Do you think Ferguson would have redshirted if Buzz and him knew how little he'd play?
I don't think many college coaches like to redshirt. Bo Ryan seems to be the only one who does this. Creates logjams later on.
I mean, ask a UW fan about Bo redshirting JP Gavinski or Evan Anderson, and they'll just roll their eyes.
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on January 29, 2013, 09:30:07 AM
Juan was hurt last year, Ferguson is not (as far as we know).
And again, I'm asking why Buzz cannot find him a few minutes in games that are firmly in hand like Providence and USF, not why he is not part of the rotation. He's played 3 minutes in the last 10 games.
Is the ghost of Ewill at Louisville behind this decision?
We were only up 10 with 4 minutes left. Too close to open the bench up.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on January 29, 2013, 09:36:29 AM
I don't think many college coaches like to redshirt. Bo Ryan seems to be the only one who does this. Creates logjams later on.
I mean, ask a UW fan about Bo redshirting JP Gavinski or Evan Anderson, and they'll just roll their eyes.
Bo recruits on the basis of representing the state of Wisconsin. It's tougher for him to argue to kids from Wisconsin that they should probably leave the program. I think the same would apply for MKE kids for Buzz.
If Junior, Anderson, eWilliams, or Ferguson didn't work out after a couple years, I think it's reasonable to find them a better fit. I would support redshirting players who won't contribute much in the first season to take their fifth year upside.
Ugh.
Compare the stats for both as a freshman with Anderson thrown in for good measure - with the amount that Buzz loves to play Freshman.
http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/compare?add=juan-anderson&juan-anderson=2011-2012&p1=jamal-ferguson&p2=patrick-hazel&patrick-hazel=2007-2008
Wait and see. Or speculate wildly...
Quote from: T-Bone on January 29, 2013, 10:08:31 AM
Ugh.
Compare the stats for both as a freshman with Anderson thrown in for good measure - with the amount that Buzz loves to play Freshman.
http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/compare?add=juan-anderson&juan-anderson=2011-2012&p1=jamal-ferguson&p2=patrick-hazel&patrick-hazel=2007-2008
Wait and see. Or speculate wildly...
Remember that Juan was hurt (he had shoulder surgery after the season ended) and he was suspended for the first three games, so he missed the cupcakes, because of the Brewer tickets.
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on January 29, 2013, 10:10:44 AM
Remember that Juan was hurt (he had shoulder surgery after the season ended) and he was suspended for the first three games, so he missed the cupcakes, because of the Brewer tickets.
I know, I know.
He still managed to participate in 24 games according to what statsheet has out there.
If a player leaves due to lack of playing time, chances are he wasn't going to be a stud anyway. When was the last time somebody good transferred from Marquette other than Mbakwe? Was it because of lack of playing time?
Why is this thread talking as if Hazell was ever a game changer? He averaged 4.2 points and 4.2 rebounds for his career.
Wow, we're tied for 1st in the Big East, nationally ranked, now have a 21 game winning streak at home, and Vander Blue just had the best game of his career, the toughest game of the season coming up next, but we're caught up on how much playing time Jamal Ferguson is getting??? He's a freshman, and he has some pretty damn good players ahead of him on the depth chart right now. Besides the fact that Pat Hazell and Erik Williams transferring had little to do with playing time.
This is absurd. Are we a fan base that is simply incapable of enjoying anything?
Quote from: Litehouse on January 29, 2013, 10:33:18 AM
This is absurd. Are we a fan base that is simply incapable of enjoying anything?
It's not the fan base. It is this board. Or the handful of no it all who dominate the tone and tenor of discussion.
Quote from: Mufflers on January 29, 2013, 10:22:44 AM
If a player leaves due to lack of playing time, chances are he wasn't going to be a stud anyway. When was the last time somebody good transferred from Marquette other than Mbakwe? Was it because of lack of playing time?
Why is this thread talking as if Hazell was ever a game changer? He averaged 4.2 points and 4.2 rebounds for his career.
When was the last time somebody good transferred from Marquette other than Mbakwe? Was it because of lack of playing time?
Jmay and Reggie Smith?
I guessing you think Mbao, McMorrow, Ewill and Jamail Jones were never any good to begin with?
Why is this thread talking as if Hazell was ever a game changer? He averaged 4.2 points and 4.2 rebounds for his career.No, I was curious about Ferguson never playing and it reminded me of how Hazell never played (I did not know/remember Hazell had off-court problems that prevented him from seeing the floor).
Quote from: Litehouse on January 29, 2013, 10:33:18 AM
Wow, we're tied for 1st in the Big East, nationally ranked, now have a 21 game winning streak at home, and Vander Blue just had the best game of his career, the toughest game of the season coming up next, but we're caught up on how much playing time Jamal Ferguson is getting??? He's a freshman, and he has some pretty damn good players ahead of him on the depth chart right now. Besides the fact that Pat Hazell and Erik Williams transferring had little to do with playing time.
This is absurd. Are we a fan base that is simply incapable of enjoying anything?
Wrong, we have tons of threads about Vander and 6 -1 in the BE. We can walk and chew gum at the same time and discuss other issues too.
Wait till next year when MU has 13 scholarship players, that is why Syracuse has about 9 on scollys or Duke, of course, they sign Top 20 kids every year for replacements. It is hard
to play more than 9 players a game. Ferguson might be in the same situation with a few freshman next year, sitting and clapping there teammates!
3 point guards - Dawson and Wilson not much time
2 guard - Ferguson, Mayo?
forward - Burton
Power F - Dog fight - Jwill, Mckay, Taylor
C - O'tule does not comeback then they can play 2 P's with Gardner.
Lots of competition!
(http://sd.keepcalm-o-matic.co.uk/i/keep-calm-and-enjoy-the-season-6.png)
Exactly, the best thing that can happen, is competition, Practice next year will be fun to watch!
Quote from: BCHoopster on January 29, 2013, 11:25:26 AM
Wait till next year when MU has 13 scholarship players, that is why Syracuse has about 9 on scollys or Duke, of course, they sign Top 20 kids every year for replacements. It is hard
to play more than 9 players a game. Ferguson might be in the same situation with a few freshman next year, sitting and clapping there teammates!
3 point guards - Dawson and Wilson not much time
2 guard - Ferguson, Mayo?
forward - Burton
Power F - Dog fight - Jwill, Mckay, Taylor
C - O'tule does not comeback then they can play 2 P's with Gardner.
Lots of competition!
Where does Tokoto fit in when he transfers to MU?
Quote from: Mufflers on January 29, 2013, 10:00:41 AM
Bo recruits on the basis of representing the state of Wisconsin. It's tougher for him to argue to kids from Wisconsin that they should probably leave the program. I think the same would apply for MKE kids for Buzz.
If Junior, Anderson, eWilliams, or Ferguson didn't work out after a couple years, I think it's reasonable to find them a better fit. I would support redshirting players who won't contribute much in the first season to take their fifth year upside.
In this case, I think that moving Ferguson back into a class that already includes three or four players with similar attributes really would create a logjam.
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on January 29, 2013, 11:38:01 AM
Where does Tokoto fit in when he transfers to MU?
Next year, no where, let him sit at NC for another year after he is over recruited next year. Not sure he has game yet to be nothing more than a role player at MU or NC.
Wrong, we have tons of threads about Vander and 6 -1 in the BE. We can walk and chew gum at the same time and discuss other issues too.
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I love that!!!
If you're sitting for 2 years at a D1 school, it's time to move on. We'll know more about Ferguson next year (if he stays).
Sunbelt? As in the conference? You just want Ferguson to transfer to one of your schools, don't you!?
I just like how the original comparison is to Hazel rather than someone more recent like Jones or Williams. Thanks for reminding me Patrick Hazel even played for MU.
Quote from: dwaderoy2004 on January 29, 2013, 12:46:16 PM
Sunbelt? As in the conference? You just want Ferguson to transfer to one of your schools, don't you!?
Just saying, MU is a prestigious basketball program. I he can get a scholarship here and not play for 2 years, he can get one somewhere else and play. I hope he stays and play cause I see potential. But if he leaves, I can't fault him.
What ever happened to freshmen not playing.
Quote from: front row on January 29, 2013, 01:33:29 PM
What ever happened to freshmen not playing.
You mean by NCAA rule? That went away 40 years ago.
Quote from: Sunbelt15 on January 29, 2013, 01:20:06 PM
Just saying, MU is a prestigious basketball program. I he can get a scholarship here and not play for 2 years, he can get one somewhere else and play. I hope he stays and play cause I see potential. But if he leaves, I can't fault him.
I was joking about your name. I personally have no problem with transfers and agree with this sentiment.
I fully expect Ferguson in the rotation ahead of Burton and Johnson next year. The year of experience will be valuable come next season.
Quote from: thehammock on January 29, 2013, 02:19:15 PM
I fully expect Ferguson in the rotation ahead of Burton and Johnson next year. The year of experience will be valuable come next season.
I don't know....
I think JJJ is going to be the best in this class. He's moved up to #31 in Scout, and can really score. He's the best freshman Marquette has seen in awhile.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on January 29, 2013, 02:24:51 PM
I don't know....
I think JJJ is going to be the best in this class. He's moved up to #31 in Scout, and can really score. He's the best freshman Marquette has seen in awhile.
Easy Sultan, it's talk like that that leads people to want to run him off after his freshman year because he "only" averaged 5 points and 15 minutes a game.
The way it looks right now, MU will have enough veterans to play with, Johnson will get some time, but will probably not start. Juan Anderson will start as well as Vander. There is some
back-up minutes behind Juan but that might go to Burton. If Mayo is back, Johnson might have a hard time getting minutes as well. The following year, Vander is gone so minutes will
be easier to get. Come to practice, play like a Warrior, time will come. Good problem to have. Duane Wilson might be the only freshman who might get significant minutes, even there
we will have to beat out a junior in Derrick Wilson. I am assuming tht JWill or McKay will start at the 4.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on January 29, 2013, 01:35:01 PM
You mean by NCAA rule? That went away 40 years ago.
No, I mean freshmen not getting many minutes and learning the game for their junior and senior season.
Quote from: Bocephys on January 29, 2013, 03:10:25 PM
Easy Sultan, it's talk like that that leads people to want to run him off after his freshman year because he "only" averaged 5 points and 15 minutes a game.
And don't think that didn't go through my mind when I typed it.
Quote from: thehammock on January 29, 2013, 02:19:15 PM
I fully expect Ferguson in the rotation ahead of Burton and Johnson next year. The year of experience will be valuable come next season.
Funny thing is Ferguson is playing better in his spots mintues, that what many of us saw at the pro-am.
Quote from: front row on January 29, 2013, 03:37:39 PM
No, I mean freshmen not getting many minutes and learning the game for their junior and senior season.
That concept is a pretty outdated one too.
Seriously, name the last Marquette player that didn't get "many minutes" for their first two years, only to be a solid contributor later on? Usually if players are good, they get minutes as a freshman...and almost certainly as a sophomore.
We were having some of these same conversations about Juan last year...and he has clearly improved heading into this year. If you can't contribute by then, you probably simply don't have the talent.
Quote from: front row on January 29, 2013, 03:57:21 PM
Funny thing is Ferguson is playing better in his spots mintues, that what many of us saw at the pro-am.
Really? Because I think he doesn't have much of a clue on defense right now.
Quote from: Jamil_toMU10 on January 29, 2013, 12:55:47 PM
I just like how the original comparison is to Hazel rather than someone more recent like Jones or Williams. Thanks for reminding me Patrick Hazel even played for MU.
Ok here is Ferguson's freshman year versus Jamail Jones and Erik Williams when they were Freshman.
http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/compare?add=erik-williams&erik-williams=2009-2010&jamail-jones=2010-2011&p1=jamal-ferguson&p2=jamail-jones
While Ferguson's season is not over, he appears to be on track for less playing time and production than either Jones or Williams.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on January 29, 2013, 04:04:03 PM
Really? Because I think he doesn't have much of a clue on defense right now.
How can you tell? He ha played 3 minutes in the last 10 games.
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on January 29, 2013, 04:12:38 PM
How can you tell? He ha played 3 minutes in the last 10 games.
Well, it was obvious against Seton Hall. But honestly, most of my memories of his play seem distant at this point.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on January 29, 2013, 04:00:58 PM
That concept is a pretty outdated one too.
Seriously, name the last Marquette player that didn't get "many minutes" for their first two years, only to be a solid contributor later on? Usually if players are good, they get minutes as a freshman...and almost certainly as a sophomore.
We were having some of these same conversations about Juan last year...and he has clearly improved heading into this year. If you can't contribute by then, you probably simply don't have the talent.
Dwight Burke? Terry Sanders? Depends on the definitions of "many minutes" and "solid contributor". If anything, though, this shows it is more likely to occur with post players, which makes sense. Don't see it much with perimeter players, at least at MU.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on January 29, 2013, 02:24:51 PM
I think JJJ is going to be the best in this class. He's moved up to #31 in Scout, and can really score. He's the best freshman Marquette has seen in awhile.
Best freshman Marquette has seen in awhile. Hmmmm, based on what? He hasn't even stepped foot on campus yet. Hey, I'm thrilled he's coming. Let's just pump the brakes a bit and stop heaping so much praise on kids before they even have their first college practice. We wonder how expectations on freshman reach ridiculous levels?
Quote from: MUBasketball on January 29, 2013, 06:17:38 PM
Best freshman Marquette has seen in awhile. Hmmmm, based on what? He hasn't even stepped foot on campus yet. Hey, I'm thrilled he's coming. Let's just pump the brakes a bit and stop heaping so much praise on kids before they even have their first college practice. We wonder how expectations on freshman reach ridiculous levels?
I'm the last person on this board you need to have this conversation with. But I should have said "highest rated in recent memory," not best.
I just think he's going to end up being ahead of Ferguson not too far into the season.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on January 29, 2013, 04:00:58 PM
That concept is a pretty outdated one too.
Seriously, name the last Marquette player that didn't get "many minutes" for their first two years, only to be a solid contributor later on? Usually if players are good, they get minutes as a freshman...and almost certainly as a sophomore.
We were having some of these same conversations about Juan last year...and he has clearly improved heading into this year. If you can't contribute by then, you probably simply don't have the talent.
When is the last time MU had the kind of depth it has now?
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on January 30, 2013, 07:05:34 AM
When is the last time MU had the kind of depth it has now?
With Jake Thomas playing ahead of him, Jamal sitting on the bench isn't a "depth issue."
I would like to know what system Buzz is running that is so complicated that any high school player couldn't learn quickly. They set very few screens. The screens are always high and by the 4. And, they run no backdoor or pick and roll. It's basic b-ball rotation. Buzz just has his favorites and that's the norm with any coach.
Quote from: Sunbelt15 on January 30, 2013, 09:13:58 AM
I would like to know what system Buzz is running that is so complicated that any high school player couldn't learn quickly. They set very few screens. The screens are always high and by the 4. And, they run no backdoor or pick and roll. It's basic b-ball rotation. Buzz just has his favorites and that's the norm with any coach.
It's not the offense, it's the defense. (Which is exactly why Vander played as a freshman. He understood the defense.) College defenses are much more complex than anything these guys have seen in high school.
And it has absolutely nothing to do with "his favorites."
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on January 30, 2013, 09:27:51 AM
And it has absolutely nothing to do with "his favorites."
Well, it does. It's just that "his favorites" coincide with who best helps the team win.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on January 30, 2013, 08:15:14 AM
With Jake Thomas playing ahead of him, Jamal sitting on the bench isn't a "depth issue."
+1
And I would add that Jamal played as much as Dylan Flood in the USF game (even though Jamal does not show up in the stat line as playing).
Quote from: dwaderoy2004 on January 30, 2013, 09:29:36 AM
Well, it does. It's just that "his favorites" coincide with who best helps the team win.
OK sure....I just get tired of people writing off lack of playing time for non-basketball reasons.
I'm trying to think about one issue I care less about than Jamal Ferguson's minutes ... and I'm drawing a blank.
That this thread has gone on for 3 pages means we all need lives. And that includes me, because I just took the time to comment on it!!!
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on January 30, 2013, 08:15:14 AM
With Jake Thomas playing ahead of him, Jamal sitting on the bench isn't a "depth issue."
I wasn't referring specifically to Jamal, but rather to your assertion that the concept of freshman sitting is outdated and that if players are "good" they get minutes as freshman.
I guess I just don't view it as an indictment against the young guys, but rather that the upperclassmen are just better, as they should be.
Quote from: dwaderoy2004 on January 30, 2013, 09:29:36 AM
Well, it does. It's just that "his favorites" coincide with who best helps the team win.
I'm not sure Joe Fulce was the best help to victory but he is probably still Buzz' all time fave
So Buzz played his favorite player of all time 8 minutes per game as a senior. Kinda makes the point that he doesn't play favorites.
Quote from: dwaderoy2004 on January 30, 2013, 05:49:44 PM
So Buzz played his favorite player of all time 8 minutes per game as a senior. Kinda makes the point that he doesn't play favorites.
I was agreeing with you
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on January 30, 2013, 08:15:14 AM
With Jake Thomas playing ahead of him, Jamal sitting on the bench isn't a "depth issue."
Jake Thomas is basically a senior with what should be a deadly shot. I feel this is a situation where JT has outperformed JF in practice. Unfortunately it hasn't translated to games. Even from a traditional standpoint, there is nothing wrong with giving Thomas minutes ahead of JF.
Quote from: martyconlonontherun on January 31, 2013, 12:08:15 AM
Even from a traditional standpoint, there is nothing wrong with giving Thomas minutes ahead of JF.
Traditional or conventional? Thomas is the only one getting traditional minutes.
Quote from: MU82 on January 30, 2013, 09:39:22 AM
I'm trying to think about one issue I care less about than Jamal Ferguson's minutes ... and I'm drawing a blank.
Dylan Flood's minutes?