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Title: Lunardi: MU up to a 9 seed
Post by: Tugg Speedman on January 09, 2013, 08:24:31 AM
Last updated yesterday.  Just the fourth one so far

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology

Our history
January 8 = MU a 9 seed playing Baylor  Winner gets 1 seed Duke
December 11 = MU a 10 seed playing New Mexico.  Winner gets 2 seed Kansas
November 6 = MU is a 8 seed playing SLU.  Winner gets 1 seed IU (this line is perfect for MUscoop threads!)
August 13 = MU is a 5 seed, playing 12 seed Purdue.  Winner gets 4 seed Baylor.

Title: Re: Lunardi: MU up to a 9 seed
Post by: JTBMU7 on January 09, 2013, 08:38:19 AM
i think that a 5 seed could be our ceiling this year. If we get 1-2 big wins in conf (Gtown may not count in a few weeks), avoid any more bad losses, and close the year strong (like we did in 2011) i could see us getting a 5 seed. But, i think a more realistic goal is to look at a 6-8 at this point.

there's lots of talk right now around the overall mediocrity of CBB right now outside of the top 10-15 teams, so the field and the bubble should be wide open with a lot more average teams making it in than in past seasons.
Title: Re: Lunardi: MU up to a 9 seed
Post by: Tugg Speedman on January 09, 2013, 09:29:27 AM
Quote from: JTBMU7 on January 09, 2013, 08:38:19 AM
there's lots of talk right now around the overall mediocrity of CBB right now outside of the top 10-15 5 or 6 teams, so the field and the bubble should be wide open with a lot more average teams making it in than in past seasons.

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Title: Re: Lunardi: MU up to a 9 seed
Post by: jsglow on January 09, 2013, 09:36:58 AM
I thought it interesting that Bucky still made the cut.  I concur with the 'soft bubble' notion.  It's not going to take a stellar performance to make the dance in the 10/11 seed range. 
Title: Re: Lunardi: MU up to a 9 seed
Post by: brewcity77 on January 09, 2013, 09:44:16 AM
Based on the current rumors...

Georgetown
Marquette
Butler
Creighton
VCU/St. Louis

That's most likely 5 teams from the new league in. And I have to think in most years Villanova and Xavier should be stronger. I really think this league can regularly get 5-7 teams.
Title: Re: Lunardi: MU up to a 9 seed
Post by: only a warrior on January 09, 2013, 12:15:45 PM
who cares?  not worth the paper it's printed on. 
Title: Re: Lunardi: MU up to a 9 seed
Post by: Windyplayer on January 09, 2013, 12:20:10 PM
Quote from: only a warrior on January 09, 2013, 12:15:45 PM
who cares?  not worth the paper it's printed on. 
Yeah, seriously, stop killing trees by wasting digital "paper."
Title: Re: Lunardi: MU up to a 9 seed
Post by: Windyplayer on January 09, 2013, 12:21:45 PM
I'll take anything but a #8 or #9 seed. Either of those seeds doom our chances of a 3-peat Sweet 16 appearance.
Title: Re: Lunardi: MU up to a 9 seed
Post by: JD on January 09, 2013, 12:23:36 PM
Quote from: windyplayer on January 09, 2013, 12:20:10 PM
Yeah, seriously, stop killing trees by wasting digital "paper."

I was thinkin the same thing.
Title: Re: Lunardi: MU up to a 9 seed
Post by: only a warrior on January 09, 2013, 12:24:34 PM
Quote from: windyplayer on January 09, 2013, 12:20:10 PM
Yeah, seriously, stop killing trees by wasting digital "paper."

touche!  So it's not worth the bandwidth it is consuming!!  Let's play so more BEast games before we worry about what Joe Lunardi thinks.  Especially after watching Pitt destroy GTown last night.
Title: Re: Lunardi: MU up to a 9 seed
Post by: Windyplayer on January 09, 2013, 12:28:24 PM
Quote from: only a warrior on January 09, 2013, 12:24:34 PM
touche!  So it's not worth the bandwidth it is consuming!!  Let's play so more BEast games before we worry about what Joe Lunardi thinks.  Especially after watching Pitt destroy GTown last night.
Totally agree, but Bracketology is similar to rankings as far as exposure. In terms of predictive value, it's meaningless at this point.
Title: Re: Lunardi: MU up to a 9 seed
Post by: greenman on January 09, 2013, 01:40:22 PM
http://bracketproject.50webs.com/matrix.htm

This site, which is linked in the Resources tab, compiles a lot of online predictions, from blogs to ESPN and CBS, etc.. It averages out the seedings for each source and lines up the teams. FWIW we are about a 10 average.
Title: Re: Lunardi: MU up to a 9 seed
Post by: Billybob on January 10, 2013, 07:15:34 PM
Quote from: only a warrior on January 09, 2013, 12:15:45 PM
who cares?  not worth the paper it's printed on. 


Exacty!
Title: Re: Lunardi: MU up to a 9 seed
Post by: Golden Avalanche on January 11, 2013, 09:57:12 AM
Quote from: JTBMU7 on January 09, 2013, 08:38:19 AM
i think that a 5 seed could be our ceiling this year. If we get 1-2 big wins in conf (Gtown may not count in a few weeks), avoid any more bad losses, and close the year strong (like we did in 2011) i could see us getting a 5 seed. But, i think a more realistic goal is to look at a 6-8 at this point.

there's lots of talk right now around the overall mediocrity of CBB right now outside of the top 10-15 teams, so the field and the bubble should be wide open with a lot more average teams making it in than in past seasons.

You're right on many accounts. With the college play down to such a low point, MU really does have a legit chance in a year they wouldn't normally get in. The issue to keep an eye on is that the Big East in its swan song may only get six teams which leaves quite a small margin of error for our Warriors.

Most importantly for me the chance for a big win is limited because only Ville, Cuse, and possibly ND will count in that category. Two of the three are at home which increases the odds of winning but decreases the value of the win in terms of resume. Couple that with the awful road performances and not one non-conference win of note and wouldn't be shocked if MU is out even with an 11-7 record.
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