According to Andy Katz's post....
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/blog/_/name/katz_andy/id/8813611/marquette-golden-eagles-coach-buzz-williams-was-miserable-suspension-college-basketball
If Little Buzz pops out around the end of Sept., we'll know how the coach spent some of his suspension.
He said a few words about it on the TWC32 Inside MU show as well. Said something like .. when he saw Junior's 3 go in, he didn't even react, no jumping/screaming.
So, his happy was messed with?
Miserable for having to put up with the ol' lady for 2 days?
Quote from: mu_hilltopper on January 04, 2013, 03:27:57 PM
He said a few words about it on the TWC32 Inside MU show as well. Said something like .. when he saw Junior's 3 go in, he didn't even react, no jumping/screaming.
Buzz didn't say no jumping/screaming. It was more like I'm not a fan, I'm a coach.
Quote from: front row on January 04, 2013, 03:57:48 PM
Buzz didn't say no jumping/screaming. It was more like I'm not a fan, I'm a coach.
Except when he jumps and screams and dances on the sideline while coaching...
Hey, Larry saved us from becoming Penn State and getting the death penalty. We owe you Lar.
Quote from: Stone Cold on January 04, 2013, 04:05:47 PM
Hey, Larry saved us from becoming Penn State and getting the death penalty. We owe you Lar.
Total hyperbole.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on January 04, 2013, 03:26:18 PM
If Little Buzz pops out around the end of Sept., we'll know how the coach spent some of his suspension.
You're a babbling idiot.
Buzz had a hobby until LW banned him from dancing.
"Williams, who grew up in Texas, romanticizes about the old Big East and is uncertain about what is to come in the new league. He's not thrilled with the change, but he understands the financial decisions being made."
This was the quote that I liked the least.... I definitely don't want to start a "Buzz is leaving" thread, but it's never good to hear that your coach is unhappy with the direction that the program is going. :-\
Quote from: EnderWiggen on January 04, 2013, 04:39:47 PM
"Williams, who grew up in Texas, romanticizes about the old Big East and is uncertain about what is to come in the new league. He's not thrilled with the change, but he understands the financial decisions being made."
This was the quote that I liked the least.... I definitely don't want to start a "Buzz is leaving" thread, but it's never good to hear that your coach is unhappy with the direction that the program is going. :-\
I think we'd all long for the BEast as it was when something like 10 teams made the tourney and it was ranked #1. What's being created is the next best thing to that and the best possible scenario. It'll remain a plum coaching assignment.
Quote from: EnderWiggen on January 04, 2013, 04:39:47 PM
"Williams, who grew up in Texas, romanticizes about the old Big East and is uncertain about what is to come in the new league. He's not thrilled with the change, but he understands the financial decisions being made."
This was the quote that I liked the least.... I definitely don't want to start a "Buzz is leaving" thread, but it's never good to hear that your coach is unhappy with the direction that the program is going. :-\
Uncertainities about the new league does not equal an unhappy coach with the direction of the program.....at least not from that quote.
Some things Buzz cannot control, but the direction is which his program is going is not one of them.
Quote from: EnderWiggen on January 04, 2013, 04:39:47 PM
"Williams, who grew up in Texas, romanticizes about the old Big East and is uncertain about what is to come in the new league. He's not thrilled with the change, but he understands the financial decisions being made."
This was the quote that I liked the least.... I definitely don't want to start a "Buzz is leaving" thread, but it's never good to hear that your coach is unhappy with the direction that the program is going. :-\
Well, I don't know what choice MU had in the matter. The old Big East died, nothing MU could do about that. So, MU decided to make the prudent decision (most people's view) and be part of a group that would put together the best basketball-only conference they could. Right now, it looks like MU has done their best to make the most out of a bad situation.
Whether Buzz Williams likes that or not, is IMO somewhat irrelevant. He will have his choice to stay or leave. But, the decision to leave the old Big East and form this new conference certainly looks like the best choice for MU.
Was buzz in the stands or at home during the game? Or elsewhere....
Quote from: EnderWiggen on January 04, 2013, 04:39:47 PM
"Williams, who grew up in Texas, romanticizes about the old Big East and is uncertain about what is to come in the new league. He's not thrilled with the change, but he understands the financial decisions being made."
This was the quote that I liked the least.... I definitely don't want to start a "Buzz is leaving" thread, but it's never good to hear that your coach is unhappy with the direction that the program is going. :-\
Yes, we all loved the old Big East. But it's gone. If he eventually leaves for a school in Texas, good luck. No one gives a damn about college hoops in Texas. There are three sports in Texas: Pro football...college football...and high school football.
Personally, I think a coach could do worse than to end up in a hoops-centric league with successful, like-minded urban schools. I really believe this will be a successful conference.
Quote from: Groin_pull on January 04, 2013, 05:06:05 PM
Yes, we all loved the old Big East. But it's gone. If he eventually leaves for a school in Texas, good luck. No one gives a damn about college hoops in Texas. There are three sports in Texas: Pro football...college football...and high school football.
Personally, I think a coach could do worse than to end up in a hoops-centric league with successful, like-minded urban schools. I really believe this will be a successful conference.
Hoops centric league with successful, like-minded urban schools?!?!? You mean like the original Big East?
Quote from: tower912 on January 04, 2013, 05:13:08 PM
Hoops centric league with successful, like-minded urban schools?!?!? You mean like the original Big East?
Yes. Before football f**ked it up.
Christ, let's not go back here again. At least wait for the season to end.
Quote from: EnderWiggen on January 04, 2013, 04:39:47 PM
"Williams, who grew up in Texas, romanticizes about the old Big East and is uncertain about what is to come in the new league. He's not thrilled with the change, but he understands the financial decisions being made."
This was the quote that I liked the least.... I definitely don't want to start a "Buzz is leaving" thread, but it's never good to hear that your coach is unhappy with the direction that the program is going. :-\
I'm just wondering when Larry is going to serve his suspension? After all, he is responsible for Buzz, just as Buzz was responsible for Monarch, and therefore he should be suspended for not controlling his program.
Quote from: Stone Cold on January 04, 2013, 04:05:47 PM
Hey, Larry saved us from becoming Penn State and getting the death penalty. We owe you Lar.
Give it a rest.
You don't like Larry.
Got it.
Quote from: EnderWiggen on January 04, 2013, 04:39:47 PM
"Williams, who grew up in Texas, romanticizes about the old Big East and is uncertain about what is to come in the new league. He's not thrilled with the change, but he understands the financial decisions being made."
This was the quote that I liked the least.... I definitely don't want to start a "Buzz is leaving" thread, but it's never good to hear that your coach is unhappy with the direction that the program is going. :-\
If Buzz leaves, he leaves. With our staff, I won't be concerned. I think some here hold Buzz above the program itself, and with the salary he gets and resources Marquette provides (private jet, money, etc), he has a pretty sweet deal here. If he leaves, i'd be pleased with one of our assistants we have.
Quote from: Groin_pull on January 04, 2013, 05:06:05 PM
If he eventually leaves for a school in Texas, good luck.
SMU called dibs.
Why did he talk to Andy Katz about this?
What's the point of giving this interview and who set it up? It doesn't make sense to me.
Buzz is an idiot for doing this. Don't like Buzz giving this interview and I'm not sure how it will help recruiting. That said, further "conspiracy" fuel to the fire that people are looney to believe. Full damage control crew should be here shortly.
If we messed this up and he goes, I'm sure people will be lining up to bash him that's typical with turnover. But I don't know if I would totally blame Buzz as we changed the rules in the middle of the game, at least academically. We knew what we had when we hired him. A JUCO guy with a phenomenal work ethic. We changed on him, he didn't change on us.
Quote from: Stone Cold on January 04, 2013, 06:38:45 PM
Buzz is an idiot for doing this. Don't like Buzz giving this interview and I'm not sure how it will help recruiting. That said, further "conspiracy" fuel to the fire that people are looney to believe. Full damage control crew should be here shortly.
If we messed this up and he goes, I'm sure people will be lining up to bash him that's typical with turnover. But I don't know if I would totally blame Buzz as we changed the rules in the middle of the game, at least academically. We knew what we had when we hired him. A JUCO guy with a phenomenal work ethic. We changed on him, he didn't change on us.
.....what?
Quote from: JDuquaine on January 04, 2013, 05:54:32 PM
If Buzz leaves, he leaves. With our staff, I won't be concerned. I think some here hold Buzz above the program itself, and with the salary he gets and resources Marquette provides (private jet, money, etc), he has a pretty sweet deal here. If he leaves, i'd be pleased with one of our assistants we have.
Which one, the complete failure at DePaul, the lifetime small time assistant, or the recruiting stud who's never coached a game as a head coach?
I'd go with the small time assistant or the stud who never coached a game as a head coach.
Why don't you critisize Buzz a little bit too, didn't he use the Tan one's recruits for the majority of his career? Isn't this the 2nd year with only his recruits alone and they're a bubble team some would say? Next years recruiting class isn't here so i'm not sure i'd count on them yet until they actually stay here throughout the 4-5 year tenure. Has Buzz showed he may not be a great coach when it comes to calling plays on the court but maybe a better recruiter?
Buzz also never had any real experience when he was appointed head coach when Crean left, what's your point?
Not bashing Buzz because he means the world to Marquette and to me, my point was I think Marquette will be fine if he ever decided to leave. Didn't CBB say "CASH IS KING" That's something we have no issues with.
Quote from: JDuquaine on January 04, 2013, 06:54:12 PM
I'd go with the small time assistant or the stud who never coached a game as a head coach.
Why don't you critisize Buzz a little bit too, didn't he use the Tan one's recruits for the majority of his career? Isn't this the 2nd year with only his recruits alone and they're a bubble team some would say? Next years recruiting class isn't here so i'm not sure i'd count on them yet until they actually stay here throughout the 4-5 year tenure. Has Buzz showed he may not be a great coach when it comes to calling plays on the court but maybe a better recruiter?
Buzz also never had any real experience when he was appointed head coach when Crean left, what's your point?
Not bashing Buzz because he means the world to Marquette and to me, my point was I think Marquette will be fine if he ever decided to leave. Didn't CBB say "CASH IS KING" That's something we have no issues with.
I've criticized Buzz plenty through the years and in this thread. On the court and off. I want to see MU succeed and I'll root for whoever the coach is (except droopy dog). That said, I believe we need to continue to support and build rapport with any coach down the line. Fact is basketball is king so the AD does have to roll out the carpet for our successful head coaches. Good/Great coaches are hard to secure at a school like MU.
Quote from: Stone Cold on January 04, 2013, 07:02:13 PM
I've criticized Buzz plenty through the years and in this thread. On the court and off. I want to see MU succeed and I'll root for whoever the coach is. That said, I believe we need to continue to support and build rapport with any coach down the line. Fact is basketball is king so the AD does have to roll out the carpet for our successful head coaches. Good/Great coaches are hard to secure at a school like MU.
Agree they are hard to secure here. Why is that? Not a recruiting hot bed, cold weather, small school?
Money isn't an issue, so what gives.
Quote from: bilsu on January 04, 2013, 04:33:07 PM
Buzz had a hobby until LW banned him from dancing.
LW needs to help with the Today Show:
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/d040c3abba05c5374f5f43012954a7f2/tumblr_mfc44jzIPq1qarjjvo1_400.gif)
Quote from: JDuquaine on January 04, 2013, 07:04:57 PM
Agree they are hard to secure here. Why is that? Not a recruiting hot bed, cold weather, small school?
Money isn't an issue, so what gives.
I believe in Marquette and our ability to reach elite status. B-ball rep was building under Wild. Crean for nine years is good, hated the way he left us like we didn't deserve the time, but I respect greatly what he did for us and think he's a very good coach.
Now Andy Katz is writing hit pieces on how we're being rough on our coaches.
Quote from: CaptainAwesome on January 04, 2013, 07:11:18 PM
LW needs to help with the Today Show:
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/d040c3abba05c5374f5f43012954a7f2/tumblr_mfc44jzIPq1qarjjvo1_400.gif)
Rick Roll must be pissed, that's his move!
Quote from: JDuquaine on January 04, 2013, 07:04:57 PM
Agree they are hard to secure here. Why is that? Not a recruiting hot bed, cold weather, small school?
Money isn't an issue, so what gives.
But has it been that hard to secure? Think about the last 8 coaches we've had
Al McGuire
Hank Raymonds
Rick Majerus
Bob Dukiet
Kevin O'Neill
Mike Deane
Tom Crean
Buzz Williams
I'd put that string of 8 up against 90% of the other schools in this country. Only one complete flameout.
We were elevated under Wild, no doubt. I have faith in Marquette regardless, I just hear these poor bastards talk about the Dukiet years and I get scared. ;)
Quote from: Stone Cold on January 04, 2013, 07:25:11 PM
We were elevated under Wild, no doubt. I have faith in Marquette regardless, I just hear these poor bastards talk about the Dukiet years and I get scared. ;)
I lived through them...it was something to behold. Losing to Stetson, Loyola of Chicago, scoring 12 points at halftime against Notre Dame, etc. It was really something to behold.
Quote from: Stone Cold on January 04, 2013, 07:25:11 PM
I just hear these poor bastards talk about the Dukiet years and I get scared. ;)
You and me both. I remember being at MU for the start of the Crean years and at least thankful that I wasn't on campus for those times.
Amazing how one small quote from the Katz interview can lead to this becoming a two page thread.
Maybe this was Hiroshima?
Quote from: KenoshaWarrior on January 04, 2013, 07:40:23 PM
Amazing how one small quote from the Katz interview can lead to this becoming a two page thread.
We've had longer about less. I'm not surprised.
In fact, I'm thinking about breaking open the booze and turning this into a drinking game:
Each reference of Hiroshima: Take a drink.
Each mention of potential Buzz replacements: Take a drink.
Each mention of "Tin Foil Hat" crowd: Take a drink.
Each mention of what this means to recruiting: Finish my drink.
Each reference of "messing with happy:" Finish my drink.
Each time we talk about dancing and include pictures: Finish my drink.
Note: Only one of these can be done per post.
Anyone else want to play? Can you smell what The Rock is cooking? Ah... college memories.
Quote from: Stone Cold on January 04, 2013, 06:38:45 PM
Buzz is an idiot for doing this. Don't like Buzz giving this interview and I'm not sure how it will help recruiting. That said, further "conspiracy" fuel to the fire that people are looney to believe. Full damage control crew should be here shortly.
If we messed this up and he goes, I'm sure people will be lining up to bash him that's typical with turnover. But I don't know if I would totally blame Buzz as we changed the rules in the middle of the game, at least academically. We knew what we had when we hired him. A JUCO guy with a phenomenal work ethic. We changed on him, he didn't change on us.
Seriously, just stop.
You've consistently created controversy about LW and BW since summer.
I understand that "where there is smoke there is fire", but you are taking smoke from your George Foreman and evacuating an entire building.
Stop. Breath. Intake. Evaluate.
Quote from: denverMU on January 04, 2013, 05:26:47 PM
I'm just wondering when Larry is going to serve his suspension? After all, he is responsible for Buzz, just as Buzz was responsible for Monarch, and therefore he should be suspended for not controlling his program.
He already did. He was forced to wear a dirty, sweaty old hat during the Ohio State game. Trust me you don't want to know where that hat had been.
Quote from: forgetful on January 04, 2013, 09:17:33 PM
He already did. He was forced to wear a dirty, sweaty old hat during the Ohio State game. Trust me you don't want to know where that hat had been.
I hear Rick Majerus knew where that hat was.
Quote from: JDuquaine on January 04, 2013, 05:54:32 PM
If Buzz leaves, he leaves. With our staff, I won't be concerned. I think some here hold Buzz above the program itself, and with the salary he gets and resources Marquette provides (private jet, money, etc), he has a pretty sweet deal here. If he leaves, i'd be pleased with one of our assistants we have.
Wainwright?
Quote from: jsglow on January 04, 2013, 04:46:48 PMI think we'd all long for the BEast as it was when something like 10 teams made the tourney and it was ranked #1. What's being created is the next best thing to that and the best possible scenario. It'll remain a plum coaching assignment.
For me, it comes down to trusting Mike Broeker. Yes, things are going to change. Instead of playing 8-10 top-25 teams from January through March, we'll probably be playing 3-6. How do we offset that? Non-conference games.
Currently, we are playing 1 perennial top-25 home and home in Wisconsin. I think we'll see one or two more added to that. Notre Dame will almost certainly be on the rotation every year. I expect we'll keep reaching out to the SEC for home-and-homes, keep trying to get in high-profile exhibitions like the Carrier Classic or Jimmy V, and probably look at higher-profile buy games. I think we'll only see 3-4 buy games most years, and instead of seeing teams in the sub-250 range, they will pretty much all be top-200.
Also, I think Green Bay and Milwaukee will go away. We'll play one more game with Milwaukee and I think that will be it.
Quote from: brewcity77 on January 05, 2013, 06:02:31 AM
For me, it comes down to trusting Mike Broeker. Yes, things are going to change. Instead of playing 8-10 top-25 teams from January through March, we'll probably be playing 3-6. How do we offset that? Non-conference games.
Currently, we are playing 1 perennial top-25 home and home in Wisconsin. I think we'll see one or two more added to that. Notre Dame will almost certainly be on the rotation every year. I expect we'll keep reaching out to the SEC for home-and-homes, keep trying to get in high-profile exhibitions like the Carrier Classic or Jimmy V, and probably look at higher-profile buy games. I think we'll only see 3-4 buy games most years, and instead of seeing teams in the sub-250 range, they will pretty much all be top-200.
Also, I think Green Bay and Milwaukee will go away. We'll play one more game with Milwaukee and I think that will be it.
How do we do this and maintain 15 home dates? We would have to dump some buy games for home-home and that means less than 15 homes dates and less revenue from basketball.
Not an easy question.
Quote from: connie on January 04, 2013, 05:26:15 PM
Christ, let's not go back here again. At least wait for the season to end.
Don't think that will happen.
Some folks can never get enough quote/word parsing, conspiracy
mongering, baseless hatred of the AD, and, most of all, needless
concern trolling on here.
I read all the comments to this point and then, just now, read Katz's article. A few observations:
1. It isn't even remotely a "hit piece" as one poster claimed. It is an interview of Buzz. Some folks here love to shoot the messenger. Here's a crazy notion: The thousands of media outlets out there don't have a vast anti-Marquette conspiracy. I know ... it's blasphemy for me to say that.
2. Even after reading the comments first, I didn't see anything Buzz said as an indication that he wants to leave Marquette. Some Scoopers have very active imaginations. Of course, some of them had Buzz at SMU by now.
3. I knew Buzz liked Cadougan but that quote about Cadougan really showed the level of appreciation and respect Buzz has for him. The PG is an extension of the coach, and it looks like these two are very close. It makes it all the more interesting Buzz's recent comments that he seriously considered benching Junior at one point.
4. I agree with the commenters who have said they like Buzz and very much want him to stay but that the program will be fine regardless. That's life in college basketball, where even the likes of Kansas, Kentucky and UCLA have seen coaches leave for other programs or the NBA.
Quote from: EnderWiggen on January 04, 2013, 04:39:47 PM
"Williams, who grew up in Texas, romanticizes about the old Big East and is uncertain about what is to come in the new league. He's not thrilled with the change, but he understands the financial decisions being made."
We all feel that way. I think we all would like to see the Big East the way it was before Syracuse, the Huggie Bear and Pitt went splitsville.
And I'd like to have hair, weigh a little less and have the 23 year old version of my wife as well.
But part of life is moving on. The Big East as we know it no longer exists. Buzz has a good deal here with a solid, up-and-coming basketball program. If next year's recruits are as good as we hope they will be, we're a candidate to be one of the very best teams in the country. LW and Father Pilzrz show a commitment to the program and short of joining a conference with Whitewater, Superior and the University of SW North Dakota, we should be fine.
I'm looking forward to years and years of Buzz and Buzzisms!
Quote from: dgies9156 on January 05, 2013, 08:59:51 AM
We all feel that way. I think we all would like to see the Big East the way it was before Syracuse, the Huggie Bear and Pitt went splitsville.
And I'd like to have hair, weigh a little less and have the 23 year old version of my wife as well.
But part of life is moving on. The Big East as we know it no longer exists. Buzz has a good deal here with a solid, up-and-coming basketball program. If next year's recruits are as good as we hope they will be, we're a candidate to be one of the very best teams in the country. LW and Father Pilzrz show a commitment to the program and short of joining a conference with Whitewater, Superior and the University of SW North Dakota, we should be fine.
I'm looking forward to years and years of Buzz and Buzzisms!
At least I still have my hair.
Yikes, just checked back on this thread and it seems to have grown a little out of control. As I mentioned, I did not mean to imply Buzz was leaving or anything like that, just that I didn't like to hear that he was unhappy about things (although yes, I think we all would prefer the big east of old). Sorry if my words got taken that way!
/not wearing tin foil
It's all your fault.
Quote from: JDuquaine on January 04, 2013, 06:54:12 PM
Why don't you critisize Buzz a little bit too, didn't he use the Tan one's recruits for the majority of his career? Isn't this the 2nd year with only his recruits alone
Please, please stop this BS. This is the 3rd year of only Buzz recruits.
Year 1: TC's recruits except for JFB
Year 2: Buzz's recruits except for Lazar, Acker and Coobie
Year 3: All Buzz (Sweet 16)
Year 4: All Buzz (Sweet 16)
This year: All Buzz
TC left Buzz a very good team for year 1, one stud and 2 role players for year 2 and nothing for years 3 and 4. The "Ferrari" was on a one year lease. Buzz got a Chevy in year two and a bus ticket in years three and four.
Quote from: jsglow on January 05, 2013, 09:04:04 AM
At least I still have my hair.
Having hair is overrated!
Besides, I still have a "few" left.