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Title: Loyola (IL) Beats DePaul
Post by: Tugg Speedman on December 29, 2012, 04:50:24 PM
Can we switch Loyola for DePaul in the C7?

Yes we lost to UWGB, but we are an establish team.  DePaul just flounders and their no reason for it.
Title: Re: Loyola (IL) Beats DePaul
Post by: We R Final Four on December 29, 2012, 04:55:45 PM
Another--the word is there.  Anytime you think that it should be their, type there instead. You seem to have a real hard time with this one.
Title: Re: Loyola (IL) Beats DePaul
Post by: RideMyBuycks on December 29, 2012, 05:02:20 PM
they're is no reason to jump all over him about that
Title: Re: Loyola (IL) Beats DePaul
Post by: Galway Eagle on December 29, 2012, 05:07:04 PM
Would you rather have a school of 14,000 that was good in the 60s and has a national title but no success since a random sweet 16 in the mid 80s or a school of 26,000 that has 2 Final Fours  and success in the 60s, 70s, 80s, and 2 good years in the past 12 years with signs of rebuilding?  I'd keep Depaul personally

also 22 tournament appearances > 5 tournament appearances
Title: Re: Loyola (IL) Beats DePaul
Post by: Chicos' Buzz Scandal Countdown on December 29, 2012, 05:28:10 PM
Quote from: RideMyBuycks on December 29, 2012, 05:02:20 PM
they're is no reason to jump all over him about that
disagree
Title: Re: Loyola (IL) Beats DePaul
Post by: Avenue Commons on December 29, 2012, 05:50:16 PM
Quote from: RideMyBuycks on December 29, 2012, 05:02:20 PM
they're is no reason to jump all over him about that
Sometimes I read what some posters write and I ask myself, "What's there problem?"
Title: Re: Loyola (IL) Beats DePaul
Post by: Dawson Rental on December 29, 2012, 05:53:52 PM
Quote from: BagpipingBoxer on December 29, 2012, 05:07:04 PM
Would you rather have a school of 14,000 that was good in the 60s and has a national title but no success since a random sweet 16 in the mid 80s or a school of 26,000 that has 2 Final Fours  and success in the 60s, 70s, 80s, and 2 good years in the past 12 years with signs of rebuilding?  I'd keep Depaul personally

also 22 tournament appearances > 5 tournament appearances

+1

As bad as DePaul is, this loss is an aberration.  DePaul's KenPom ranking is 114 Loyola's is 191.  Loyola plays in an on campus arena that since being renovated to replace its bleacher seating has less than 4,500 seats.

DePaul's struggles to realize its potential is frustrating.  I have a feeling that until the alumni can shake the administration's faith in Jean Lenti-Ponsetto, the situation isn't going to get much better.  But DePaul's ceiling is undeniably higher than Loyola's.
Title: Re: Loyola (IL) Beats DePaul
Post by: Tugg Speedman on December 29, 2012, 06:50:49 PM
Quote from: We R Final Four on December 29, 2012, 04:55:45 PM
Another--the word is there.  Anytime you think that it should be their, type there instead. You seem to have a real hard time with this one.

Thanks Mom
Title: Re: Loyola (IL) Beats DePaul
Post by: Tugg Speedman on December 29, 2012, 06:52:43 PM
Quote from: BagpipingBoxer on December 29, 2012, 05:07:04 PM
Would you rather have a school of 14,000 that was good in the 60s and has a national title but no success since a random sweet 16 in the mid 80s or a school of 26,000 that has 2 Final Fours  and success in the 60s, 70s, 80s, and 2 good years in the past 12 years with signs of rebuilding?  I'd keep Depaul personally

also 22 tournament appearances > 5 tournament appearances

I should have put this in teal.  Obviously I don't want to trade DePaul for Loyola.  But THERE is no reason for them to be this bad for this long.  Purnell is getting Buzz type money.  How long until the DePaul faithful start asking for more than 2 or 3 BE wins a year?
Title: Re: Loyola (IL) Beats DePaul
Post by: Dawson Rental on December 29, 2012, 07:03:47 PM
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on December 29, 2012, 06:50:49 PM
Thanks Mom

There should be a comma after "Thanks".  ;D
Title: Re: Loyola (IL) Beats DePaul
Post by: RealChiliWarrior on December 29, 2012, 07:17:28 PM
But that school with the enrollment of 26,000 can't gather together 4,500 fans of its own to fill Loyola's Gentile Center on most nights.  DuhPaul's best crowds are the result of their conference mates Chicago area alumni turnout.

Jean Lenti-Ponsetto has been AD since 7-1-2002.  Now in her 11th year, I would describe her tenure as 1 year of job experience that has simply been repeated 9 times.   Ding! Ding! Ding!  Jeannie it clearly isn't working. 

What's the plan?  The entire conference is waiting!

Better yet, let another school try to create excitement in Chicago.  DuhPaul fall on the sword and exit to the Horizon and let's move on to Loyola or UIC.

Title: Re: Loyola (IL) Beats DePaul
Post by: We R Final Four on December 29, 2012, 07:19:30 PM
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on December 29, 2012, 06:50:49 PM
Thanks Mom

You can do it......I know you can. 
Title: Re: Loyola (IL) Beats DePaul
Post by: Pakuni on December 29, 2012, 08:01:45 PM
Holy sh*t!!!!!  An upset!!???!! In college baketball??!!?????
Has something like this ever happened before????
Title: Re: Loyola (IL) Beats DePaul
Post by: Galway Eagle on December 29, 2012, 08:35:09 PM
Quote from: RealChiliWarrior on December 29, 2012, 07:17:28 PM
But that school with the enrollment of 26,000 can't gather together 4,500 fans of its own to fill Loyola's Gentile Center on most nights.  DuhPaul's best crowds are the result of their conference mates Chicago area alumni turnout.

Jean Lenti-Ponsetto has been AD since 7-1-2002.  Now in her 11th year, I would describe her tenure as 1 year of job experience that has simply been repeated 9 times.   Ding! Ding! Ding!  Jeannie it clearly isn't working. 

What's the plan?  The entire conference is waiting!

Better yet, let another school try to create excitement in Chicago.  DuhPaul fall on the sword and exit to the Horizon and let's move on to Loyola or UIC.



Firstly Depaul averages 7,740 fans a game that's enough to fill out loyola's place.  Secondly I agree about the conference mates and that its mostly area alumni because well what students are gonna go out to rosemont to watch a shitty team.  Next, Loyola and uic havent shown the commitment to basketball that DePaul has, so it wouldn't make sense for them to move over to another school.  Finally DePaul is bigger so what's our incentive to throw them away for a smaller school.  Because if DePaul does get back to prominence they're big enough to make a crap ton of money for the conference. 
Title: Re: Loyola (IL) Beats DePaul
Post by: Benny B on December 29, 2012, 08:45:24 PM
Quote from: Pakuni on December 29, 2012, 08:01:45 PM
Holy sh*t!!!!!  An upset that didn't involve a DePaul win!!???!! In college baketball??!!?????
Has something like this ever happened before????

An upset AND DePaul didn't win.

That has never happened before.
Title: Re: Loyola (IL) Beats DePaul
Post by: MauraDay on December 29, 2012, 09:04:55 PM
Quote from: LittleMurs on December 29, 2012, 07:03:47 PM
There should be a comma after "Thanks".  ;D

Period should go inside the quotes: "Thanks."
Title: Re: Loyola (IL) Beats DePaul
Post by: Benny B on December 29, 2012, 09:36:12 PM
Quote from: indymufan on December 29, 2012, 09:04:55 PM
Period should go inside the quotes: "Thanks."

"Period" is missing it's definite article.
Title: Re: Loyola (IL) Beats DePaul
Post by: 4everwarriors on December 29, 2012, 09:54:29 PM
English nazis, all of you guys.
Title: Re: Loyola (IL) Beats DePaul
Post by: MUFlutieEffect on December 30, 2012, 12:26:23 AM
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on December 29, 2012, 06:52:43 PM
I should have put this in teal.  Obviously I don't want to trade DePaul for Loyola.  But THERE is no reason for them to be this bad for this long.  Purnell is getting Buzz type money.  How long until the DePaul faithful start asking for more than 2 or 3 BE wins a year?

Herein is the issue - "DePaul faithful" is an oxymoron.
Title: Re: Loyola (IL) Beats DePaul
Post by: RideMyBuycks on December 30, 2012, 12:32:43 AM
Quote from: sixstrings03 on December 29, 2012, 05:28:10 PM
disagree

Witch which will no weather the whether will be nice over their?
Title: Re: Loyola (IL) Beats DePaul
Post by: brewcity77 on December 30, 2012, 05:47:09 AM
Quote from: 4everwarriors on December 29, 2012, 09:54:29 PM
English nazis, all of you guys.

It always ends in Nazis.
Title: Re: Loyola (IL) Beats DePaul
Post by: bilsu on December 30, 2012, 06:45:43 AM
Quote from: Benny B on December 29, 2012, 08:45:24 PM
An upset AND DePaul didn't win.

That has never happened before.
I think they were the first 2 seed to lose a first round game in NCAA tournament.
Title: Re: Loyola (IL) Beats DePaul
Post by: Tugg Speedman on December 30, 2012, 07:35:13 AM
Quote from: bilsu on December 30, 2012, 06:45:43 AM
I think they were the first 2 seed to lose a first round game in NCAA tournament.

And the first 1 seed to lose in the first round, to St. Joes in the late 1970s.
The tourney was 48 back then, no 1seed has lost since it went to 64 in the mid-1980s.
Title: Re: Loyola (IL) Beats DePaul
Post by: Goose on December 30, 2012, 08:32:33 AM
Obviously no interest in Loyola playing new conference but would rather play them in NC schedule than UWGB or whoever we played yesterday.
Title: Re: Loyola (IL) Beats DePaul
Post by: Avenue Commons on December 30, 2012, 09:05:47 AM
Quote from: Goose on December 30, 2012, 08:32:33 AM
Obviously no interest in Loyola playing new conference but would rather play them in NC schedule than UWGB or whoever we played yesterday.

I've been arguing for this for two decades now. Loyola makes so much sense for us to play in a non-conference game. That MU game in Rogers Park would be the biggest game In a long time there. I think a 3-1 or 4-1 agreement would be fair. 

I asked Cords and Cottingham about Loyola and got circular answers. Don't know if positions have changed.

Title: Re: Loyola (IL) Beats DePaul
Post by: Sheriff on December 30, 2012, 09:52:11 AM
Quote from: Benny B on December 29, 2012, 09:36:12 PM
"Period" is missing it's definite article.


"Its" is the possessive form of "it."
Title: Re: Loyola (IL) Beats DePaul
Post by: Galway Eagle on December 30, 2012, 09:59:31 AM
Quote from: Avenue Commons on December 30, 2012, 09:05:47 AM
I've been arguing for this for two decades now. Loyola makes so much sense for us to play in a non-conference game. That MU game in Rogers Park would be the biggest game In a long time there. I think a 3-1 or 4-1 agreement would be fair. 

I asked Cords and Cottingham about Loyola and got circular answers. Don't know if positions have changed.



Definitelly agree.  Plus the athletics department could make it like the Depaul game by busing students down there and stuff. 
Title: Re: Loyola (IL) Beats DePaul
Post by: Avenue Commons on December 30, 2012, 10:01:16 AM
Here is a PDF of "The Elements of Style." I keep this in a drawer in my desk. Good refresher for anyone at any level. http://www.cs.vu.nl/~jms/doc/elos.pdf
Title: Re: Loyola (IL) Beats DePaul
Post by: LloydMooresLegs on December 30, 2012, 10:31:54 AM
Quote from: Avenue Commons on December 30, 2012, 10:01:16 AM
Here is a PDF of "The Elements of Style." I keep this in a drawer in my desk. Good refresher for anyone at any level. http://www.cs.vu.nl/~jms/doc/elos.pdf

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