Bronson Koenig (UW commit) and LaCrosee Aquainas vs. Duane Wilson (MU commit), Diamond Stone (future MU star) and WFB Dominican.
Wed 5:30 at Concordia in Mequon.
Lets not jinx Mr. Stone. Getting him and Looney in the next two years would be incredible on top of this years class. We would be talking national championship contention!!
So, what happened?
Aquinas beat Domincan 50-47. Wilson scored a game high 18, Stone had 17 and Koenig had 14. Thats all of the information I could find on the game.
Quote from: LittleMurs on December 26, 2012, 11:31:05 PM
So, what happened?
Traditionals won.
http://www.jsonline.com/sports/preps/aquinas-zone-does-in-dominican-5885o39-184886521.html
Quote from: Andrew Siciliano's Ear on December 26, 2012, 11:38:09 PM
Aquinas beat Domincan 50-47. Wilson scored a game high 18, Stone had 17 and Koenig had 14. Thats all of the information I could find on the game.
Mark Miller tweeted that Wilson and Koenig are perfect players for their respective programs. It will be fun watching those two go at it in the years to come.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on December 27, 2012, 07:43:06 AM
Mark Miller tweeted that Wilson and Koenig are perfect players for their respective programs. It will be fun watching those two go at it in the years to come.
My cousin said the same thing. Wilson could get open looks at will, just weren't falling tonight.
was at the game and Koenig was great in the 1st half. made some crazy passes. Might be too flashy for Bo, that was the sentiment from everyone around me and some were Badger fans.
Wilson was so quick and hangs in the air forever. He can get to the rim whenever he wants. Dominican coach is not very good. They did not use Stone much and did not do any 2 man stuff with Stone and Wilson. Should have spaced the floor better for Wilson to operate.
Aquinas played a 1-3-1 in 2nd half with a 5'8 kid on the bottom Stone was yelling for the ball so the coach moved him to the high post. Soft touch for a big guy. Hit a 17 foot jumper and looked good at the FT line. He was also able to put the ball on the floor from the FT line and attack the rim.
It was fun to watch Koenig and Wilson go at it. Did not appear to be much love between the two either which will be interesting over the next 4 years.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on December 27, 2012, 07:43:06 AM
Mark Miller tweeted that Wilson and Koenig are perfect players for their respective programs. It will be fun watching those two go at it in the years to come.
I was at the game and I agree they both went to the correct program. Wilson had a chance to tie the game, but he drove in to deep on the side and had to throw up a prayer as he was essentially trapped by the defense he rushed into. The prior trip down the floor he hit a three from the top of the key and I was surprised he did not try to shoot again from there instead of dribbling into a strong defense on the side of the court. They were both announced as 6'3" and are very close in height. Maybe a very slight edge to Koenig. Koenig is much stronger. Wilson is definitely quicker. Like all quick players, Wilson can get in trouble because he is too quick. Koenig is a much better passer and I can see him playing point. I do not think Wilson is a point guard. I am very glad he is coming to MU, but based on this game his future is at the 2g as he did not show me any great skills in distributing the ball. However, to be fair Dominican is basically a two man team and there was not a lot of success in passing the ball to the other three players. I of course also watched Stone. He has Devante Gardner's hands. However, he does not back players down like Gardner does as he appears to be more of a face the basket type player. He can jump and appears to be quicker than Gardner. However, that might be somewhat misleading, because Gardner as a whole is playing against better athletes in college than Stone is in high school.
Quote from: bilsu on December 27, 2012, 08:49:49 AM
I do not think Wilson is a point guard. I am very glad he is coming to MU, but based on this game his future is at the 2g as he did not show me any great skills in distributing the ball. However, to be fair Dominican is basically a two man team and there was not a lot of success in passing the ball to the other three players. I of course also watched Stone. He has Devante Gardner's hands. However, he does not back players down like Gardner does as he appears to be more of a face the basket type player. He can jump and appears to be quicker than Gardner. However, that might be somewhat misleading, because Gardner as a whole is playing against better athletes in college than Stone is in high school.
Wilson is going to be a scoring point guard a la Kemba Walker (I can only hope he reaches that level). I think he'll be best with the ball in his hands and Buzz should be able to develop him as a dribble penetrate and dish type of player. He'll obviously have to adjust to the bigger, more athletic guards he'll be up against, but he has elite speed and great mid-range game for a high schooler.
Gardener is really a unique big man in this day and age. Stone is still young and should get more comfortable banging in the paint. I can't imagine that we steal him away from the Kentucky and Georgetowns of the world.
Quote from: AWegrzyn17 on December 27, 2012, 10:12:06 AM
Wilson is going to be a scoring point guard a la Kemba Walker (I can only hope he reaches that level). I think he'll be best with the ball in his hands and Buzz should be able to develop him as a dribble penetrate and dish type of player. He'll obviously have to adjust to the bigger, more athletic guards he'll be up against, but he has elite speed and great mid-range game for a high schooler.
Gardener is really a unique big man in this day and age. Stone is still young and should get more comfortable banging in the paint. I can't imagine that we steal him away from the Kentucky and Georgetowns of the world.
For MU to take the next step is to find a big man, you might say what you want about TC, but he felt he could only go so far at MU in recruiting. The foundation has been set for MU to
be really good in the future. There is good and then there is really good. Buzz lost Emblid to Kansas, needs to find one big man going forward, I am sure Stone is the one. They will be
fine next year, but in 2014-15, there going to need a couple big bodies. I think it will determine Buzz's future here as well. If he can not get the deal done, MU might be just a middle of
the pack type of program. Players help recruit players, Stone and Wilson on the same team, might have his ear. Time will tell.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on December 27, 2012, 07:43:06 AM
Mark Miller tweeted that Wilson and Koenig are perfect players for their respective programs. It will be fun watching those two go at it in the years to come.
According to JSonline, it sounds like both Wilson and Stone are perfect for MU:
"La Crosse Aquinas doesn't play a lot of zone, but the defense provided just the changeup its boys basketball team needed Wednesday evening.
Unable to handle Whitefish Bay Dominican man-to-man, the Blugolds switched to a 1-3-1 zone in the third quarter, a move that helped them score a 50-47 victory"
http://midwestballers.com/?p=3753
Quote from: MuMark on December 27, 2012, 11:52:55 AM
http://midwestballers.com/?p=3753
Nice move by Duane around the 18 second mark where he has the ball up takes it down and brings it up again all while flying through the air.
Koenig makes some flashy passes. He had one picked off by Duane that he tried to make across the top of the key near the end, though.
That was not him. #42 made that pass--Koenig is #24.
Quote from: LittleMurs on December 27, 2012, 11:37:36 AM
According to JSonline, it sounds like both Wilson and Stone are perfect for MU:
"La Crosse Aquinas doesn't play a lot of zone, but the defense provided just the changeup its boys basketball team needed Wednesday evening.
Unable to handle Whitefish Bay Dominican man-to-man, the Blugolds switched to a 1-3-1 zone in the third quarter, a move that helped them score a 50-47 victory"
The poor play vs a zone was due to the lack of coaching by Dominican. It was really bad.
Agree that Dominican is/was poorly coached. Their team will be bad when Wilson leaves. I'm betting stone will be playing elsewhere next year.
42 for Aquinas is Carson Schneider. He's about their 7th or 8th guy.
If Stone transfers somewhere in Wisconsin next year, he has to sit out a year.
Quote from: Eye on December 27, 2012, 02:20:28 PM
42 for Aquinas is Carson Schneider. He's about their 7th or 8th guy.
If Stone transfers somewhere in Wisconsin next year, he has to sit out a year.
Unless his parents move correct?
I think its more likely that Dominican redoes its coaching search.
Correct. Parents would have to live in new district. Open enrollment transfer he'd have to sit out a year. So not sure where exactly he lives, but he'd be eligible at that public school next year.
Go play with Looney!
Quote from: Eye on December 27, 2012, 02:27:59 PM
Correct. Parents would have to live in new district. Open enrollment transfer he'd have to sit out a year. So not sure where exactly he lives, but he'd be eligible at that public school next year.
I'm fairly certain they live in Tosa. I'm pretty sure he played with the Tosa East travelling program in 7th and 8th grades.
http://www.wauwatosanow.com/sports/90845064.html
Duane with 34 last night.
http://www.jsonline.com/sports/preps/100793999.html#/game/show/3609539?referrer=554069&subseason=79913&referrer=554069
Quote from: starting5 on December 27, 2012, 08:48:48 AM
was at the game and Koenig was great in the 1st half. made some crazy passes. Might be too flashy for Bo, that was the sentiment from everyone around me and some were Badger fans.
Wilson was so quick and hangs in the air forever. He can get to the rim whenever he wants. Dominican coach is not very good. They did not use Stone much and did not do any 2 man stuff with Stone and Wilson. Should have spaced the floor better for Wilson to operate.
Aquinas played a 1-3-1 in 2nd half with a 5'8 kid on the bottom Stone was yelling for the ball so the coach moved him to the high post. Soft touch for a big guy. Hit a 17 foot jumper and looked good at the FT line. He was also able to put the ball on the floor from the FT line and attack the rim.
It was fun to watch Koenig and Wilson go at it. Did not appear to be much love between the two either which will be interesting over the next 4 years.
Take Koenig over Wilson in a heartbeat--Wilson does some nice things around the basket but he's much smaller looks like 3 inches shorter than Koenig and not nearly as strong-Koenig got around him at will with his ball handling skills-and koenig is an elite passer--better shooter too in my opinion although he did not take many shots--not impressed with breakaway dunks-any one and their granma can do that these days.
Quote from: booger on December 31, 2012, 09:31:47 AM
Take Koenig over Wilson in a heartbeat--Wilson does some nice things around the basket but he's much smaller looks like 3 inches shorter than Koenig and not nearly as strong-Koenig got around him at will with his ball handling skills-and koenig is an elite passer--better shooter too in my opinion although he did not take many shots--not impressed with breakaway dunks-any one and their granma can do that these days.
You'd rather take a guy that's #82 RSCI vs #60 RSCI?
I'd much rather have Wilson, he has a much higher ceiling.
Quote from: booger on December 31, 2012, 09:31:47 AM
Take Koenig over Wilson in a heartbeat--Wilson does some nice things around the basket but he's much smaller looks like 3 inches shorter than Koenig and not nearly as strong-Koenig got around him at will with his ball handling skills-and koenig is an elite passer--better shooter too in my opinion although he did not take many shots--not impressed with breakaway dunks-any one and their granma can do that these days.
Frank Kapinski......is that you??????
Quote from: Skatastrophy on December 31, 2012, 09:38:59 AM
You'd rather take a guy that's #82 RSCI vs #60 RSCI?
I'd much rather have Wilson, he has a much higher ceiling.
your 'higher ceiling' is subjective....ratings are for the birds. did you not watch them play? point guard wilson is not. Koenig has the higher celing in my view and is a true point guard with the skills he showed. everyone said that.
Quote from: booger on January 02, 2013, 11:24:40 AM
point guard wilson is not. Koenig has the higher celing in my view and is a true point guard with the skills he showed.
Thanks Yoda.
But seriously if you are viewing Wilson as a "pure point guard" you very well be right. A lot of people mentioned here that he might be better playing off the ball, but still has a good handle. I would rather have Wilson because he fits into Marquette's system better than Koenig would.
Quote from: booger on December 31, 2012, 09:31:47 AM
Take Koenig over Wilson in a heartbeat--Wilson does some nice things around the basket but he's much smaller looks like 3 inches shorter than Koenig and not nearly as strong-Koenig got around him at will with his ball handling skills-and koenig is an elite passer--better shooter too in my opinion although he did not take many shots--not impressed with breakaway dunks-any one and their granma can do that these days.
You say Wilson could not stay with Koenig yet in the 2nd half Koenig was silent and LA was bailed out by #33. LA also had to switch to a zone since nobody could keep Wilson from the rim. Wilson got better as the game went on Koenig got tired.
Wilson is a legit 6'2 to 6'3 walked past him last night. I am 6' and he has 2-3 inches on me. Koenig is only about an inch taller at 6'4.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on December 27, 2012, 02:46:01 PM
I'm fairly certain they live in Tosa. I'm pretty sure he played with the Tosa East travelling program in 7th and 8th grades.
http://www.wauwatosanow.com/sports/90845064.html
he did play junior red raider basketball... used to see him and his folks at many games, as my boy played as well, though several grades below.
his height as an 8th grader was his biggest asset at that point- showed some athleticism, but just over 'talled' the other kids mostly.
to play jr. RR basketball you have to either live in 'Tosa or go to a 'Tosa school as open enrollment or 212 or something.
not sure if they have the 'or parents working in 'Tosa' rule like some other teams/leagues do.
was hoping he'd be at east, but.....
Quote from: Skatastrophy on December 31, 2012, 09:38:59 AM
You'd rather take a guy that's #82 RSCI vs #60 RSCI?
I'd much rather have Wilson, he has a much higher ceiling.
Means nothing to me.
Quote from: booger on May 21, 2013, 10:00:28 AM
Means nothing to me.
As does your post mean nothing to anyone here.
Quote from: booger on May 21, 2013, 10:00:28 AM
Means nothing to me.
So a worse player with a lower ceiling means nothing to you?
I guess that makes sense why Bo has never been held to a higher standard with his recruiting. Apathetic fans.
I think this is funny, because if Wilson had signed with UW and Keonig with MU, we would be having the same argument in reverse.
Quote from: bilsu on May 21, 2013, 01:47:44 PM
I think this is funny, because if Wilson had signed with UW and Keonig with MU, we would be having the same argument in reverse.
So, booger is right?
Quote from: bilsu on May 21, 2013, 01:47:44 PM
I think this is funny, because if Wilson had signed with UW and Keonig with MU, we would be having the same argument in reverse.
I hope not, because Du Wilson is clearly better
Is booger badmofo15 over on the Dodd's board? Aka his dad?
Quote from: Jamil_toMU10 on May 21, 2013, 10:28:18 AM
As does your post mean nothing to anyone here.
An awesome comeback, even if it was 4 1/2 months in the making.
Quote from: Groin_pull on May 21, 2013, 01:02:31 PM
To annoy MU fans.
Im a MU fan and I love when they are annoyed lol