there is a new C7 board for the new league we are forming. would love to have some Golden Eagles make an appearance and get their view of whats going on and where they want us to go.
http://csnbbs.com/forumdisplay.php?fid=772
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"What makes the Billikens a strong candidate is their market, but it's important to remember that in this strain of realignment, markets shouldn't make a huge difference. Markets are critical for, say, the Big Ten, which has its own television channel, or the SEC, which is plotting one. The Catholic 7 have zero chance at having their own television channel. So they need programs like Dayton and Creighton with big arenas, rabid fan bases and winning traditions more than they do teams in big cities that command little attention."
This is an interesting point from this article... On the difference between the c7 and traditionally regional conferences.
Bottom line: we're not building our own network so markets don't really matter. Just compelling basketball matters.
They still do, but to a lesser degree. You want schools like St. John's and DePaul to succeed simply because their market is so big that they automatically generate interest. If St. Louis and Dayton are equal in all other respects, you go for the bigger market. But if a school will win consistently it's worth taking a team of greater quality from a smaller market (like VCU in Richmond or Gonzaga in Spokane) over a team like the Billikens.
Another huge factor, quite simply, is NCAA shares. If a team can consistently get you 1-3 shares per year, that makes up a lot of what you lose in market size because they attract more national attention and increase the profile of the entire conference.
Quote from: brewcity77 on December 22, 2012, 01:11:54 AM
They still do, but to a lesser degree. You want schools like St. John's and DePaul to succeed simply because their market is so big that they automatically generate interest. If St. Louis and Dayton are equal in all other respects, you go for the bigger market. But if a school will win consistently it's worth taking a team of greater quality from a smaller market (like VCU in Richmond or Gonzaga in Spokane) over a team like the Billikens.
Another huge factor, quite simply, is NCAA shares. If a team can consistently get you 1-3 shares per year, that makes up a lot of what you lose in market size because they attract more national attention and increase the profile of the entire conference.
Agreed. If we get the quality programs we can afford St. Louis, DePaul, Seton Hall, etc. And they can be an asset - good commitment, good locations. The upside, especially with DePaul & SJU, is there. This league will go through cycles and will be fluid, and that's probably a good thing.
And we'll kind of need 4ish bottom-tier teams (though not utter dregs), 4ish top-tier teams, and then 4ish fighting in the middle. Allows us the ability to get higher seeds for our top and the most possible bids.
Quote from: brewcity77 on December 22, 2012, 01:11:54 AM
They still do, but to a lesser degree. You want schools like St. John's and DePaul to succeed simply because their market is so big that they automatically generate interest.
How big is their market though? I get that Chicago and NYC are big markets but neither school has a following in itself (alumni/students) to move the needle much on its own.
It's a different story among state schools. First due to sheer numbers of students/alumni but also culturally. If you grow up in Wisconsin you cheer for the Badgers by default, whether you went there or not.
I've been in Wisconsin for 9 years now but still cheer for Michigan football though I never went there.
Thats why you mix big markets with quality programs. Thats the best way to do it.