Per Jeff Goodman
Buzz Williams reinstates Todd Mayo
Written by: Mark Strotman
For the second time in four months, Buzz Williams has reinstated shooting guard Todd Mayo to the Marquette basketball team, a source confirmed to Paint Touches on Thursday. Michael Hunt of the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel first had the report. Williams spoke ... Continue reading → (http://painttouches.com/2012/12/20/buzz-williams-reinstates-todd-mayo/)
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Per IWB's free board, apparently he posted something on his Instagram account that says he will be back.
Just confirmed. Will be in uni on Sat.
Great news! Up to Todd now.
Great news, but he isn't Jimmy Chitwood. A valuable piece, though, one that was missing.
Well written yet again.
Welcome back Todd. Play to win. Marquette needs you.
Todd's a huge improvement over Lockett and Thomas!
I doubt Lockett's minutes drop significantly.
In a month, I predict that Todd will be starting alongside Blue and Junior.
This is solid news. Hopefully Todd will be more focused after his absence. He could be the spark that we need after a tough loss to gb and entering beast play.
Quote from: tower912 on December 20, 2012, 07:51:55 PM
In a month, I predict that Todd will be starting alongside Blue and Junior.
Truth, hopefully he will be that outside threat mu needs.
Mayo eligible, will be in uniform Saturday
http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/184356731.html
QuoteBut his return probably can't hurt.
For real Hunt?
Now we just need Crowder and DJO and we're in business.
Todd is not the solution to all this teams problems. He is more of a streak shooter than a pure shooter but at least at least he has proven he can make threes in game situations. He also has the killer instinct that Jake and Lockett don't seem to have. In the best case scenario (which is what we must have to be competitive this season) he makes enough 3s to stop teams from triple teaming Gardner. That makes Gardner more effective. Junior seems to play better when Gardner is scoring. So now we are better at 3 positions.
I also think Buzz has got to give some more minutes to Ferguson. He has shown some offensive explosiveness.
"Including Mayo's suspension at West Virginia for being cited as an underage at a local nightclub"
I think this is the first time the reason for the suspension at the WV game has been officially reported. By local do they mean local in MKE or local near WV. Assume this is the incident where DJO got into a fight.
Certainly Todd will help the offense, but his bigger contribution will be on defense. A big thing this year is defending and turning over the opposition. This is where Todd will shine.
Quote from: tower912 on December 20, 2012, 07:36:48 PM
Great news, but he isn't Jimmy Chitwood. A valuable piece, though, one that was missing.
Now that's a traditional we could use.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on December 20, 2012, 07:50:07 PM
I doubt Lockett's minutes drop significantly.
If he doesn't get better AND still gets big minutes we are in big trouble.
I've thought Todd would be our top scorer all year prior to his suspension, and I still think he has a good shot to be right up there even when missing all this time. He's the best scorer on the team and a pretty good shooter as well. Hope he's got a flame burning inside and is ready to make a difference.
How could Todd be cited for being underage last year?....he is already 22 now....that math does not work....I think Hunt screwed that up.
Very glad to have Todd back, he needs to keep his nose to the grindstone and make the most of this opportunity.
Good point, westy - number don't lie.
Quote from: westcoastwarrior on December 21, 2012, 12:12:28 AM
How could Todd be cited for being underage last year?....he is already 22 now....that math does not work....I think Hunt screwed that up.
Todd is 21 now. He will be 22 on March 26. In a perfect world, he will be celebrating his birthday by practicing before our Sweet 16 game. He would have been 20 when Apt 720 happened.
Even if Todd isn't the savior shooting wise on our team, hes a HUGEEEEEEE improvement over Lockett defensively. Lockett looks like his feet are in mud half the time.
Again, I don't think you will see a significant decrease in Lockett's minutes. Right now, Lockett is at 24 pg. My guess is that goes down about 3 or 4. Mayo will get most of Thomas' minutes and a few from Blue (simply because he is playing so many right now). Round it off with a few from here or there to get to the 20-22 range.
Quote from: NotAnAlum on December 20, 2012, 08:28:54 PM
Todd is not the solution to all this teams problems. He is more of a streak shooter than a pure shooter but at least at least he has proven he can make threes in game situations. He also has the killer instinct that Jake and Lockett don't seem to have. In the best case scenario (which is what we must have to be competitive this season) he makes enough 3s to stop teams from triple teaming Gardner. That makes Gardner more effective. Junior seems to play better when Gardner is scoring. So now we are better at 3 positions.
I also think Buzz has got to give some more minutes to Ferguson. He has shown some offensive explosiveness.
While its a bit much to assume Todd is going to be the be all end all in terms of what MU needs...
Lets not forget that last season was his first season at MU. Learning the system. Getting used to high major D1 ball. A lot of players make their biggets leap from year 1 to year 2. He has had some time to analyze what he needs to do. Lets see. Todd was without a doubt one of the teams better perimeter defenders. And at least it gives MU more depth that way. I wouldnt doubt that Todd also becomes more consistent than last season on offense as well. At least as the season goes on.
Quote from: JDuquaine on December 21, 2012, 06:49:58 AM
Even if Todd isn't the savior shooting wise on our team, hes a HUGEEEEEEE improvement over Lockett defensively. Lockett looks like his feet are in mud half the time.
Probably overstating it a little.
Hunt lead his piece with:
It is just a coincidence that reserve sophomore guard Todd Mayo is rejoining the team after Marquette scored 47 points Wednesday night in a loss at UW-Green Bay.
This makes it sound like Buzz is a GM and made a trade after a bad game. Or only decided to look at bringing Mayo back because they lost.
The only reason this happened after the UWGB game, and not before, is Todd's mom flight was canceled into Milwaukee and everything was pushed back a day. To suggests that was Todd reinstated is at all related to the UWGB game gives a bad impression of Buzz and MU. It suggests that MU treats Mayo like a piece of meat and is needed now because they other pieces of meat on the team performed poorly Wednesday night.
Bad opening line.
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on December 21, 2012, 07:56:19 AM
Hunt lead his piece with:
It is just a coincidence that reserve sophomore guard Todd Mayo is rejoining the team after Marquette scored 47 points Wednesday night in a loss at UW-Green Bay.
This makes it sound like Buzz is a GM and made a trade after a bad game. Or only decided to look at bringing Mayo back because they lost.
The only reason this happened after the UWGB game, and not before, is Todd's mom flight was canceled into Milwaukee and everything was pushed back a day. To suggests that was Todd reinstated is at all related to the UWGB game gives a bad impression of Buzz and MU. It suggests that MU treats Mayo like a piece of meat and is needed now because they other pieces of meat on the team performed poorly Wednesday night.
Bad opening line.
Do you understand what "It is just a coincidence..." means??
Why wouldn't we want a solid player back after a tough loss? There is no way this can hurt us.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on December 21, 2012, 08:01:33 AM
Do you understand what "It is just a coincidence..." means??
Do you understand what he is suggesting?
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on December 21, 2012, 08:14:49 AM
Do you understand what he is suggesting?
Yes. He is suggesting that some people might be under the impression that his suspension was lifted due to the team's poor performance on Wednesday. He heads that off by saying "It is just a coincidence..."
And BTW, I will now note that Todd wasn't eligible on Wednesday but still is on the team (strike one against Another), and the "bureaucrat" that prevented Todd from being eligible earlier was actually Buzz. Do you want him fired now?
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on December 21, 2012, 08:17:37 AM
Yes. He is suggesting that some people might be under the impression that his suspension was lifted due to the team's poor performance on Wednesday. He heads that off by saying "It is just a coincidence..."
And BTW, I will now note that Todd wasn't eligible on Wednesday but still is on the team (strike one against Another), and the "bureaucrat" that prevented Todd from being eligible earlier was actually Buzz. Do you want him fired now?
Todd joined the team on Monday. Had to be eligible Monday or MU violated NCAA rules. 100% correct here.
It was Brew that made the arguments that bureaucrats would be on vacation so it would take weeks to make a decision. I argued that was stupid.
I also said that eligibility and getting back on the court were two different issues.
Other than getting the arguments wrong, and confusing me with Brew, this is pretty accurate.
Can anyone tell me who on our team is a better scorer than Mayo? I bet you cant... this is a big deal
Welcome back Todd!
Quote from: LAMUfan on December 21, 2012, 08:36:34 AM
Can anyone tell me who on our team is a better scorer than Mayo? I bet you cant... this is a big deal
Welcome back Todd!
Vander
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on December 21, 2012, 08:28:49 AM
Todd joined the team on Monday. Had to be eligible Monday or MU violated NCAA rules. 100% correct here.
No. He was reinstated yesterday. But even if I buy your Monday argument, you weren't "correct." Your statement was that if he wasn't on the team by Wednesday, he wouldn't be on the team at all. You can't possibly know if that was the case if he was eligible Monday. At best you can say your statement was "unproven."
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on December 21, 2012, 08:40:06 AM
Vander
Hahaha, lets get real. Vander is far from a better scorer. Jamil may have more scoring ability, but he plays like a damn puss. Mayo is a flat out scorer, and I think it will show. He isn't going to solve all of this team's problems, but Todd returning is a major step in the right direction.
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on December 21, 2012, 08:40:06 AM
Vander
Ummm no. Watching Vander shoot is like watching the worst thing ever.
Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on December 21, 2012, 09:07:15 AM
Hahaha, lets get real. Vander is far from a better scorer. Jamil may have more scoring ability, but he plays like a damn puss. Mayo is a flat out scorer, and I think it will show. He isn't going to solve all of this team's problems, but Todd returning is a major step in the right direction.
Todd had very similar offensive numbers to Vander last year.
Now, he might have improved a lot and can help this team... I hope.
But, I caution people to set their expectations carefully.
"Mayo is a flat our scorer" is setting the bar too high, and I think you are going to be disappointed.
It's interesting that a Freshman who averaged eight points and three rebounds in 20 minutes wouldn't get people excited about what kind of improvement will come to his game in his second season now that his position is wide open.
Quote from: The Golden Avalanche on December 21, 2012, 09:58:50 AM
It's interesting that a Freshman who averaged eight points and three rebounds in 20 minutes wouldn't get people excited about what kind of improvement will come to his game in his second season now that his position is wide open.
The problem is that people are treating him as the key to the season. He will definitely improve the team, but the real question is how *much* he will improve the team.
Quote from: Guns n Ammo on December 21, 2012, 09:49:56 AM
I caution people to set their expectations carefully.
We're not dealing with Cancer here. I don't think anyone is expecting all rainbows and sunshine from here on out just because Todd is back. It's not crazy to say that it will benefit us though. I bet if we had him for the GB game we could have come out of it with a W.
We need Todd to be on the team to compete moving forward. No doubt there were good and bad moments last year but the kid can score. He also can help on the pressure D and hopefully we can step up the pace. No offense to Jake Thomas but we need higher level of play.
Saying Mayo is the best scorer on the team is not setting the bar to high, he's the best of a group of guys that don't score very well. I like Vander a lot by the way, agree about Jamil being able to score but he does not play like he wants too all the time.
Todd's shot is much smoother than Vanders, in saying that, he barely scored in the Big East last year. Shooting is all about confidence, Todd could be a double digit scorer, he probably
has an ability to shoot it better than what MU has now. Thomas has been somewhat a disappointment, so has Lockett. Todd should help, how much? See in a month or so.
Quote from: TexMex on December 21, 2012, 10:01:52 AM
We're not dealing with Cancer here. I don't think anyone is expecting all rainbows and sunshine from here on out just because Todd is back. It's not crazy to say that it will benefit us though. I bet if we had him for the GB game we could have come out of it with a W.
Alright. Maybe I'm crazy, but I'm envisioning a game/stretch where Todd doesn't score, and people will RAGE because they think Todd is a "flat out scorer". He's not. Look at his numbers last year.
He's a good player. He's going to help with some depth at guard and should provide a little outside pop.
10ppg in 20min. If it's more than that, I'll be pleasantly surprised.
(http://www.dariawiki.org/wiki/images/e/e8/Todd_Ianuzzu.jpg)
16 points in the second half Wednesday. Less than 50 points twice already this season - once (Florida) in an uptempo game. this team has a SEVERE lack of offensive firepower. We have 3 guys in the rotation (Otule, Anderson and D Wilson) who can only score on uncontested layups, 2 who can score on dribble penetration (Junior and Vander) but can't shoot, 1 who can only shoot but maybe not at this level (Thomas) and 1 enigma Jamil) who can score inside/outside but disappears for long, long stretches every game. Not enough Data yet on Lockett, but everything (shooting %, turnovers) suggests he's not a reliable scorer either. Our one reliable scorer is Davante, and even he has significant limitations.
Todd Mayo is not an All American. On last year's team that had 2 go to scorers he was a guy you could ride if he was hot and sit if he wasn't. This year's team doesn't have that luxury. Mayo is the ONLY true inside/outside aggressive threat we have. Once he's rounded into shape, we need big minutes and big production from him.
Lenny's man, you need a job at ESPN. Concise and precise analysis.
Basically, Todd is a welcomed addition, can only help. I am sure he can get his shot against a zone anytime he will want. If he hits a few, the teams will have to go man. He
can be a difference maker. Hope he is in playing shape.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on December 21, 2012, 08:41:35 AM
No. He was reinstated yesterday. But even if I buy your Monday argument, you weren't "correct." Your statement was that if he wasn't on the team by Wednesday, he wouldn't be on the team at all. You can't possibly know if that was the case if he was eligible Monday. At best you can say your statement was "unproven."
Ok words semantics time. He began practicing with the team Monday. He was "reinstated" yesterday.
When was he "eligible?" Answer Monday.
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on December 21, 2012, 11:06:27 AM
Ok words semantics time. He began practicing with the team Monday. He was "reinstated" yesterday.
When was he "eligible?" Answer Monday.
You've been playing fast and loose with words lately....have you found any evidence yet where people you accused of saying MU was going to the Dukiet days when Buzz was hired? Semantics?
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on December 21, 2012, 11:06:27 AM
Ok words semantics time. He began practicing with the team Monday. He was "reinstated" yesterday.
When was he "eligible?" Answer Monday.
OK...because you are being completely obtuse, I went back to find your original statement. This is what you said:
"If he is eligible and does not come back by Wednesday, then he is never coming back. If he is still ineligible, then he is never coming back anyway. Their is no reason to hold of on reinstating him after Wednesday unless you do not want him back."
He was not "reinstated" until after Wednesday. (Using your word from above.)
Therefore you were wrong. You *can* admit that sometimes you know...
Quote from: LAMUfan on December 21, 2012, 08:36:34 AM
Can anyone tell me who on our team is a better scorer than Mayo? I bet you cant... this is a big deal
Welcome back Todd!
DG, he should get 10-15 shots a game. But getting Todd back is huuuuuuge. There maybe isn't a better shooter.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on December 21, 2012, 11:24:25 AM
OK...because you are being completely obtuse, I went back to find your original statement. This is what you said:
"If he is eligible and does not come back by Wednesday, then he is never coming back. If he is still ineligible, then he is never coming back anyway. Their is no reason to hold of on reinstating him after Wednesday unless you do not want him back."
He was not "reinstated" until after Wednesday. (Using your word from above.)
Therefore you were wrong. You *can* admit that sometimes you know...
He started practicing on Monday (because he was eligible to) and was reinstated on Thursday, not Wednesday, because Todd's mother flight was cancelled and the meeting between her, Todd and Buzz was pushed back a day.
So, I was wrong. Happy now?
And what is your point in constantly bringing this up? Did you cancel her flight so you could be proven correct?
The team has been missing a guy who can "create his own" in the half court. Todd is that type of player. We don't move to national championship contender with his return, but I think we move into a solid 7-10 seed range with potential to do some damage in the tournament depending on matchups. Not bad for a down year after losing two NBA draft picks. And with the incoming talent our future's so bright we gotta wear shades.
Quote from: tower912 on December 20, 2012, 07:36:48 PM
Great news, but he isn't Jimmy Chitwood. A valuable piece, though, one that was missing.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on December 20, 2012, 08:41:15 PM
Now that's a traditional we could use.
Chitwood has snuck back into the NCAA. He's playing for Butler under the name Rotnei Clark. Chitwood always did his best work in Hinkle Fieldhouse
Moderators: Excellent job combining all the threads about this topic into one; i.e. the original from amgine, and the following ones by PaintTouches and (finally) Hunt.
Quote from: The Golden Avalanche on December 21, 2012, 09:58:50 AM
It's interesting that a Freshman who averaged eight points and three rebounds in 20 minutes wouldn't get people excited about what kind of improvement will come to his game in his second season now that his position is wide open.
Wow, you're saying Vander quit the team? When did that happen?
Mayo is BY FAR the most talented perimeter player MU has on its roster. Can anyone here say they feel more confident a good outcome will happen when the ball is in the hands of any of our other perimeter players? Mayo can score at the basket, mid range, and from the 3. Off the dribble, step back jumpers...basically the whole repertoire of an offensive game.
Todd has serious game. Let's hope things all go smoothly from here on out - because the guy is an All Big East type of talent.
Quote from: LittleMurs on December 21, 2012, 12:04:44 PM
Wow, you're saying Vander quit the team? When did that happen?
I think at this level Vander is more of a 3. I would expect Otule's minutes to drop as a result of Todd's return. MU will find that they are better smaller once they get into conference. I think Jamil will play a lot at the 5 once the conference gets going when Gardner is not in.
Cadougan
Mayo
Blue
Wilson
Gardner
I hope we see a lot of this lineup going forward.
Quote from: MARQ_13 on December 21, 2012, 12:39:52 PM
I think at this level Vander is more of a 3. I would expect Otule's minutes to drop as a result of Todd's return. MU will find that they are better smaller once they get into conference. I think Jamil will play a lot at the 5 once the conference gets going when Gardner is not in.
Cadougan
Mayo
Blue
Wilson
Gardner
I hope we see a lot of this lineup going forward.
you'd need to sub D for O on this lineup as you'd have a tough time getting any rebounds or defending anyone close to the rim with those 5. but i agree that's our best looking offensive 5.
Quote from: The Golden Avalanche on December 21, 2012, 09:58:50 AM
It's interesting that a Freshman who averaged eight points and three rebounds in 20 minutes wouldn't get people excited about what kind of improvement will come to his game in his second season now that his position is wide open.
I would put a qualifier on the freshman-to-sophomore improvement, Mayo wasn't a typical freshman. He is really old for his age and also has a background where he played with elite talent. A lot of times there is a huge struggle for freshmen because they physically haven't matured and they aren't used to the level of competition. That's one of the reasons why Mayo didn't improve a lot throughout the year like a typical freshmen.
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on December 21, 2012, 11:38:51 AM
He started practicing on Monday (because he was eligible to) and was reinstated on Thursday, not Wednesday, because Todd's mother flight was cancelled and the meeting between her, Todd and Buzz was pushed back a day.
So, I was wrong. Happy now?
Yep.
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on December 21, 2012, 11:38:51 AM
And what is your point in constantly bringing this up? Did you cancel her flight so you could be proven correct?
Just to be a dick.
Wonder where Mayo was able to practice if he wasn't allowed to play in a Marquette gym. Does anyone know?
Quote from: Stretchdeltsig on December 21, 2012, 02:32:33 PM
Wonder where Mayo was able to practice if he wasn't allowed to play in a Marquette gym. Does anyone know?
I would guess he probably played games over at the Helfaer Rec. Maybe subbing in where Dylan Flood was playing last year.