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Title: Big East keeps going West
Post by: Pakuni on December 19, 2012, 03:21:52 PM
Apparently they're now trying to add UNLV and Fresno State as football members.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/blog/dennis-dodd/21425151/big-east-contacts-fresno-state-and-unlv-about-joining-in-football

Title: Re: Big East keeps going West
Post by: flash on December 19, 2012, 03:24:32 PM
 Big East football has lost all credibility, how can they possibly call themselves the Big "East", gotta change the name of the conference with these new additions
Title: Re: Big East keeps going West
Post by: pumata on December 19, 2012, 03:26:24 PM
How sad, really, to see the Big East slide into inconsequence and irrelevance. Basketball made the Big East. It was never about football.
Title: Re: Big East keeps going West
Post by: Nukem2 on December 19, 2012, 03:26:47 PM
Suspect a new name will emerge, assuming the league survives.
Title: Re: Big East keeps going West
Post by: Pakuni on December 19, 2012, 03:28:21 PM
What surprises me is that they want UNLV for football but not hoops. Maybe they figure if they take them for hoops, they'll have to take them for all sports, and then it becomes a travel issue.
Title: Re: Big East keeps going West
Post by: pumata on December 19, 2012, 03:28:29 PM
Quote from: flash on December 19, 2012, 03:24:32 PM
Big East football has lost all credibility, how can they possibly call themselves the Big "East", gotta change the name of the conference with these new additions

The geographic dilution should make keeping the name a non-issue. Unless the flannel suits in NYC have a refined sense of irony.
Title: Re: Big East keeps going West
Post by: Oldgym on December 19, 2012, 03:44:02 PM
It's kinda nice to effectively be on the sidelines for this.
Title: Re: Big East keeps going West
Post by: GGGG on December 19, 2012, 03:49:43 PM
Quote from: Oldgym on December 19, 2012, 03:44:02 PM
It's kinda nice to effectively be on the sidelines for this.


+1.  What a train wreck.
Title: Re: Big East keeps going West
Post by: Abode4life on December 19, 2012, 03:53:10 PM
Quote from: Nukem2 on December 19, 2012, 03:26:47 PM
Suspect a new name will emerge, assuming the league survives.

Hopefully that means they want to give up the Big East Name.
Title: Re: Big East keeps going West
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on December 19, 2012, 04:43:16 PM
Quote from: Pakuni on December 19, 2012, 03:28:21 PM
What surprises me is that they want UNLV for football but not hoops. Maybe they figure if they take them for hoops, they'll have to take them for all sports, and then it becomes a travel issue.

Part of that is because the travel for football isn't a killer, but it is for all the other sports.  A school may be willing to do football in one conference but not the other sports.
Title: Re: Big East keeps going West
Post by: Tums Festival on December 19, 2012, 05:00:30 PM
UNLV isn't exactly a football powerhouse and Fresno isn't nearly what they were a few years ago either.
Title: Re: Big East keeps going West
Post by: Ellenson Guerrero on December 19, 2012, 05:02:24 PM
I doubt this will have any impact on the conference name. As we've seen from the Big 10, conference names are about brand identity, not logic. I'm afraid we would have to put up quite a lot of cash if we were to get Big East naming rights.
Title: Re: Big East keeps going West
Post by: honkytonk on December 19, 2012, 05:06:34 PM
Quote from: flash on December 19, 2012, 03:24:32 PM
Big East football has lost all credibility, how can they possibly call themselves the Big "East", gotta change the name of the conference with these new additions

The same could have been said when ND was added to the BE.

The same could have been said when VPI, Miami and BC were lost and USF, Cincy and UL were added.

The same could be said when the Big EAST added a school in Illinois and Wisconsin.
Title: Re: Big East keeps going West
Post by: GOO on December 19, 2012, 05:15:12 PM
If the C7 pays more than 1 Million for the BE name, they've paid too much.  It's value keeps going down as long as the football schools continue to use it.  It has little to no value to the football schools anymore.  If the C7 end up paying Millions or giving up Millions for this name, then they've been fleeced.

I'd prefer the Metro Conference, Big Metropolitan Conference  or something of the sort, unless it comes for 1 Million or less.   
Title: Re: Big East keeps going West
Post by: Pakuni on December 19, 2012, 05:16:10 PM
Quote from: GOO on December 19, 2012, 05:15:12 PM
If the C7 pays more than 1 Million for the BE name, they've paid too much.  It's value keeps going down as long as the football schools continue to use it.  It has little to no value to the football schools anymore.  If the C7 end up paying Millions or giving up Millions for this name, then they've been fleeced.

I'd prefer the Metro Conference, Big Metropolitan Conference  or something of the sort, unless it comes for 1 Million or less.   

The Big MaC?
Title: Re: Big East keeps going West
Post by: JD on December 19, 2012, 05:17:02 PM
Could this be a great thing in the making?  Say UNLV does go to the BEast for football as the article says.

Notice the article said for football only, well why would UNLV want their basketball to stay in the Mountain, would they possibly consider the C7?!?!

I know it's a dream, but is it probable if that happens?
Title: Re: Big East keeps going West
Post by: MarquetteFan94 on December 19, 2012, 05:19:29 PM
How about the College Basketball Conference?
Title: Re: Big East keeps going West
Post by: Dawson Rental on December 19, 2012, 05:23:28 PM
Quote from: JDuquaine on December 19, 2012, 05:17:02 PM
Could this be a great thing in the making?  Say UNLV does go to the BEast for football as the article says.

Notice the article said for football only, well why would UNLV want their basketball to stay in the Mountain, would they possibly consider the C7?!?!

I know it's a dream, but is it probable if that happens?

You beat me to it by five minutes.  UNLV would be an awesome addition to the C7 with slightly less travel issues than Gonzaga. Do you think that there are many flights to Vegas?
Title: Re: Big East keeps going West
Post by: JD on December 19, 2012, 05:25:56 PM
Quote from: LittleMurs on December 19, 2012, 05:23:28 PM
You beat me to it by five minutes.  UNLV would be an awesome addition to the C7 with slightly less travel issues than Gonzaga. Do you think that there are many flights to Vegas?

Indeed, UNLV probably has more star power than Georgetown possibly.  If you look at tournament apperances, FF, Championships.

Plus my best friend is a huge fan, it would be awesome if we could talk S*** more often!  ;D
Title: Re: Big East keeps going West
Post by: Les Nessman on December 19, 2012, 05:57:23 PM
Quote from: JDuquaine on December 19, 2012, 05:25:56 PM
Indeed, UNLV probably has more star power than Georgetown possibly.  If you look at tournament apperances, FF, Championships.

Plus my best friend is a huge fan, it would be awesome if we could talk S*** more often!  ;D

Well phuck, we should do it for this reason alone.
Title: Re: Big East keeps going West
Post by: Pakuni on December 19, 2012, 06:01:33 PM
Better road trip: Vegas, Dayton or Spokane?
Title: Re: Big East keeps going West
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on December 19, 2012, 06:03:53 PM
Quote from: MarquetteFan94 on December 19, 2012, 05:19:29 PM
How about the College Basketball Conference?

How would that reflect on women's volleyball, track, golf, tennis, soccer, etc?
Title: Re: Big East keeps going West
Post by: Dawson Rental on December 19, 2012, 06:06:22 PM
Quote from: Pakuni on December 19, 2012, 06:01:33 PM
Better road trip: Vegas, Dayton or Spokane?

Before or after the mortgage payment has been made?
Title: Re: Big East keeps going West
Post by: slingkong on December 21, 2012, 12:36:37 PM
Are the football schools just throwing darts at random now?  These are the schools they choose to help their football league?
Title: Re: Big East keeps going West
Post by: Groin_pull on December 21, 2012, 12:47:36 PM
Quote from: flash on December 19, 2012, 03:24:32 PM
Big East football has lost all credibility, how can they possibly call themselves the Big "East", gotta change the name of the conference with these new additions


How can the Big 10 keep that name with 14—and counting—members????
Title: Re: Big East keeps going West
Post by: murocky01 on December 21, 2012, 12:56:30 PM
How about Houses of the Holy for the new conference name?
Title: Re: Big East keeps going West
Post by: The Process on December 21, 2012, 02:33:04 PM
Quote from: Groin_pull on December 21, 2012, 12:47:36 PM

How can the Big 10 keep that name with 14—and counting—members????

You assume that they can count...
Title: Re: Big East keeps going West
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on December 21, 2012, 02:34:03 PM
Quote from: Groin_pull on December 21, 2012, 12:47:36 PM

How can the Big 10 keep that name with 14—and counting—members????

Brand worth millions
Title: Re: Big East keeps going West
Post by: brewcity77 on December 21, 2012, 02:37:33 PM
Quote from: Groin_pull on December 21, 2012, 12:47:36 PM

How can the Big 10 keep that name with 14—and counting—members????

It's all about the brand name. With the network, it wouldn't be practical to change the conference name. Sort of like how the NFC West was still called the NFC West when Carolina and Atlanta were in the division.
Title: Re: Big East keeps going West
Post by: Groin_pull on December 21, 2012, 04:07:16 PM
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on December 21, 2012, 02:34:03 PM
Brand worth millions

Understood. Only pointing out that the Big East has plenty of company when it comes to inappropriate conference names. The Big 10 has 14 teams...the Big XII has 10 teams...the SEC has Missouri...and the AAC has Syracuse, Pitt, ND, and BC.
Title: Re: Big East keeps going West
Post by: bilsu on December 21, 2012, 07:43:45 PM
Quote from: murocky01 on December 21, 2012, 12:56:30 PM
How about Houses of the Holy for the new conference name?
I like "Holy Horrors" better
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