The new league moving forward
Marquette officials do not necessarily favor the national perception that its new conference will be a Catholic conference.
http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/183828831.html
Key quote:
Quote"MU athletic director Larry Williams said the brand appeal is such that the new league will have no trouble negotiating a favorable TV deal. Of course, the seven schools had to have that in hand as a virtual lock before they took the leap."
I agree with this assessment. I also strongly believe there was at least an informal commitment from Xavier and Butler. Otherwise the risk would have been too great. Catholic schools aren't known for their lack of conservatism.
Yes, Marquette is a Jesuit school and proud of it. The other six Big East breakaway schools - Georgetown, Villanova, St. John's, Providence, DePaul and Seton Hall - are Catholic schools.
The last time I checked, Georgetown is also a Jesuit school--not just Catholic.
Villanova is Augustinian
Providence is Dominican
DePaul and St. John's are Vincentian
Marquette and Georgetown are Jesuit
Seton Hall is generally Catholic and not affiliated with an order? I'm not sure on Seton Hall.
"Just two years ago, ESPN offered the league a TV deal that would have been worth $11 million to each full-time member."
"Each full-time member" means football playing teams that also plays the other sports. Marquette would NOT have been getting the $11/year. They would have gotten a ton less than that. Poorly written piece.
Quote from: Avenue Commons on December 17, 2012, 03:58:36 PM
Villanova is Augustinian
Providence is Dominican
DePaul and St. John's are Vincentian
Marquette and Georgetown are Jesuit
Seton Hall is generally Catholic and not affiliated with an order? I'm not sure on Seton Hall.
Seton Hall is a diocesan university - under the Archdiocese of Newark.
"Of note is a New York Daily News story that reports the Big East turned down an ESPN TV contract two years ago that would have paid $11 million to each member.
Ouch.
I've been told Marquette gets $1.5 million annually from the current Big East contract. The Daily News story says each member gets $1.6 million. Let's say it's $1.55 million. Still, think of the lost revenue. The story says Rutgers, West Virginia and Pittsburgh followed the lead of Georgetown in saying no to the deal because they thought the league could do better on the hopes that the Big East would become a big-time football conference in large TV markets."
Makes it sound like the deal that was turned down would have gotten MU $11m/year? That can't be right?
Quote from: sixstrings03 on December 17, 2012, 04:10:42 PM
"Of note is a New York Daily News story that reports the Big East turned down an ESPN TV contract two years ago that would have paid $11 million to each member.
Ouch.
I've been told Marquette gets $1.5 million annually from the current Big East contract. The Daily News story says each member gets $1.6 million. Let's say it's $1.55 million. Still, think of the lost revenue. The story says Rutgers, West Virginia and Pittsburgh followed the lead of Georgetown in saying no to the deal because they thought the league could do better on the hopes that the Big East would become a big-time football conference in large TV markets."
Makes it sound like the deal that was turned down would have gotten MU $11m/year? That can't be right?
It's not. The $11 million/year would have been for full members, i.e. football schools. For the hoops only schools, it would have been significantly less.
Quote from: warriorchick on December 17, 2012, 04:10:06 PM
Seton Hall is a diocesan university - under the Archdiocese of Newark.
They're also a "Sea-Grant" university. Didn't know that existed...
IIRC, the "2-years-ago-contract" would have paid basketball schools in the neighborhood $3M/year (or twice what they're receiving now). One would think (hope) that the new conference should be able to at least get to that point.
Quote from: Avenue Commons on December 17, 2012, 03:58:36 PM
Villanova is Augustinian
Providence is Dominican
DePaul and St. John's are Vincentian
Marquette and Georgetown are Jesuit
Seton Hall is generally Catholic and not affiliated with an order? I'm not sure on Seton Hall.
For whatever it is worth, Xavier and St. Louis and Creighton are Jesuit schools.
Butler is independent/private.
Dayton is Marian order.
Based on everything I know about the Society of Jesus, they are very tight and stick together.
Quote from: T-Bone on December 17, 2012, 04:19:46 PM
They're also a "Sea-Grant" university. Didn't know that existed...
Makes the Pirates name very appropriate. Hopefully no Somalians are offended though or they will have to become the Wildcats or the Golden Eagles, or maybe just Blue.
Opinions galore
http://www.buzzfeed.com/ktlincoln/butler-university-is-super-arrogant-about-their-ba
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on December 17, 2012, 07:39:09 PM
Opinions galore
http://www.buzzfeed.com/ktlincoln/butler-university-is-super-arrogant-about-their-ba
The ending of that piece was pretty hilarious. Comparing a team to the '90-93 Buffalo Bills is definitely one way too throw a wet blanket on something 99% of schools would be proud of.
Is Butler really one of the biggest brands in college basketball or is that some hyperbole?
Quote from: Avenue Commons on December 17, 2012, 06:22:43 PM
For whatever it is worth, Xavier and St. Louis and Creighton are Jesuit schools.
Butler is independent/private.
Dayton is Marian order.
Based on everything I know about the Society of Jesus, they are very tight and stick together.
FWIW--Gonzaga is Jesuit as well. My point was Mike Hunt seemed to know that MU was Jesuit, but not Georgetown.
would be nice to add 2 west coast teams so that on a road trip we could play both on a weekend, say Friday and Sunday. Would be economical, too. Zags and ?
Dear Mike Hunt,
Think about the lunacy of what you are writing. I quote:
"Of note is a New York Daily News story that reports the Big East turned down an ESPN TV contract two years ago that would have paid $11 million to each member.
Ouch."
Ouch? Really? Well, yes, if you're UConn, Cinci, or South Florida.
However, if you're West Virginia, Syracuse, Pittsburgh, Rutgers, or Louisville you're thanking your lucky stars that you got into another league and aren't stuck with a stinker of a football contract like that.