A few posts back the board was discussing the new pedmall being created between Cobeen and Tower. That project along with several others of recent memory (see the Al, Dental Building, Parking Structure, Campus Beautification, etc.) got me thinking. What will be Marquette's next big project(s) - where are their priorities/opportunities? Obviously, the Law School is going to be the number one priority, but after that, what?
1. Law School
2. Soccer Stadium
3. McCormick Replacement?
4. Life Sciences building?
5. New College of Business (MU still hasn't named the college of business after anyone yet - most schools have done so after a large donation)?
What do you guys think? Even better - what would you push for if you were on the Board of Trustees?
I'm pretty certain that a McCormick renovation is on deck. The rooms will be converted to suite-style housing, instead of double room dorms.
Fundraising is alson on-going for a new Engineering Building across from Haggerty on 16th Street.
a new engineering building called the Discovery Learning Tower is in the works to....i'm guessing they are still in the planning stage for this one since MU hasn't mentioned too much about this. i guess it will have a skywalk across 16th street to connect it to the old engin. building. should be pretty cool
ZiggysFryBoy ponied up $100 bones for his season tix. Hopefully that's enough for Dean Schrock and Joe T to name the Biz school the ZiggysFryBoy College of Business. 8)
Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on July 26, 2007, 05:55:55 PM
ZiggysFryBoy ponied up $100 bones for his season tix. Hopefully that's enough for Dean Schrock and Joe T to name the Biz school the ZiggysFryBoy College of Business. 8)
It's been a slow day, but that's the funniest thing I've heard all day!!
here's a pearl for you: several university buildings (mashuda, carpenter, and mccormick for sure, possibly others) have no sprinkler system. mashuda's is currently being replaced, and I think carpenter's will be in a few years. MU has a time limit on when these systems have to be replaced, and i think there's some speculation whether such an expensive project would be worth it for mccormick. mb that will be a good excuse for someone important to say enough is enough and crush the rusty old beer can
Quote from: MoSarsour on July 26, 2007, 06:17:32 PM
Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on July 26, 2007, 05:55:55 PM
ZiggysFryBoy ponied up $100 bones for his season tix. Hopefully that's enough for Dean Schrock and Joe T to name the Biz school the ZiggysFryBoy College of Business. 8)
It's been a slow day, but that's the funniest thing I've heard all day!!
Really??...the funniest thing??....all day??....do you work in a morgue??
Academic buildings are always a priority, but in this case, McCormick is way overdue. The place is a complete dump needs to be torn down, not renovated. It will be a complete waste of money to renovate that place. I will never forget the day I moved into McCormick and saw the look on my Dad's face when he saw what he was paying for. I don't blame him. I had a blast at McCormick, but the place is sub-standard. Schroeder is more modern, but still needs a major renovation. We have enjoyed a period of high applications and admissions in spite of inadequate freshman and sophomore housing, but at some point the tide will turn, and the dorms will be a large factor in the decision making process.
This is not a priority, but I would like to see a student union on the main campus (south of WI Ave) The AMU is a complete waste of space. The AMU is not functional for student use, and really serves no purpose in my mind other than to host some functions in the ball rooms. The annex is nice, but in a bad location and too small. I know there is not much space left on the main campus, but I think something could be done.
i don't think mccormick will get done for the 3-5 years. keep in mind they just sank about a million into renovating the dining room/kitchen not that long ago. probably around 3 or 4 years ago. it probably will be torn down or renovated, but i don't see it happening till some other projects wrap up.
also, i thought the business school was named after David Straz.
Quote from: MilTown on July 27, 2007, 08:36:32 AM
Academic buildings are always a priority, but in this case, McCormick is way overdue. The place is a complete dump needs to be torn down, not renovated. It will be a complete waste of money to renovate that place. I will never forget the day I moved into McCormick and saw the look on my Dad's face when he saw what he was paying for. I don't blame him. I had a blast at McCormick, but the place is sub-standard. Schroeder is more modern, but still needs a major renovation. We have enjoyed a period of high applications and admissions in spite of inadequate freshman and sophomore housing, but at some point the tide will turn, and the dorms will be a large factor in the decision making process.
This is not a priority, but I would like to see a student union on the main campus (south of WI Ave) The AMU is a complete waste of space. The AMU is not functional for student use, and really serves no purpose in my mind other than to host some functions in the ball rooms. The annex is nice, but in a bad location and too small. I know there is not much space left on the main campus, but I think something could be done.
I agree with you about the housing... and I would guess in the next 10years the dorms will become a priority (I have no insider information... just educated guess).
The upperclassmen housing demand has been somewhat addressed with the addition onto campus town... now it's time to address the dorms.
McCormick (as much as we love it) is overdue for a re-model or re-build. Shroeder needs some work, but with some "touch-ups" it could function for a while longer in its current state.
Cobeen isn't the most modern and neither is Tower... but they are just old, old buildings... so I'm not sure what MU can do with them (tear them down and re-build?)
The CK building would be great for MU to purchase and turn into some sort of dorm/upper-classmen suites or something... but that piece of real-estate is probably worth a TON... and I'm not an architect, so I have no idea how easy it would be to turn that building into something useful for MU.
As much as we would all hate to see it... I think the Hegarty's building (is it the Frenn?) might be on it's way out (in the next 10 years) and I could see a new dorm going up right there (maybe the basketball players dorm and then turn humphrey into a regular dorm)
The problem with remodeling any of the dorms as that you need to have space to put kids and keep the school running. MU might be more likely to build a new dorm and then tear down one of the old ones to make room for either green space or another academic building.
It's all quite interesting... it's like city planning. MU is pretty fat with cash and donations right now, so they need to be aggressive with their planning... but they also need to be mindful that they don't want to over-extend. I know that MU bought up a bunch of property in the late 80's into the mid 90's... but then really didn't have the money (or need) to do anything with what they purchased. It was a good move to purchase the property as it is helping reduce crime and anytime MU can purchase property, they probably should... but it's also risky because buying up property when you have no money or need for it. It can tie up MU's money in some unneeded areas.
There are a few buildings up on 18th-19th st. that still sit pretty much empty (or at least they were last I checked).
There has to be somebody on this board that knows more...
Yeah, its a tough situation to be in because everyone has their own "vision" for campus. It's up to the board of trustees and administration to make the best choices for the University. Does anyone know if the University has a "master plan"? I would think they should, or if they don't they need to higher consultants to develop a plan. I think a fundraising campaign centered around a well designed capital improvement plan with a specific time frame and goals would be very well received by alumni and other donors. We have the AMU, so how about Alumni Hall where McCormick now stands?
Quote from: MilTown on July 27, 2007, 10:04:57 AM
Yeah, its a tough situation to be in because everyone has their own "vision" for campus. It's up to the board of trustees and administration to make the best choices for the University. Does anyone know if the University has a "master plan"? I would think they should, or if they don't they need to higher consultants to develop a plan. I think a fundraising campaign centered around a well designed capital improvement plan with a specific time frame and goals would be very well received by alumni and other donors. We have the AMU, so how about Alumni Hall where McCormick now stands?
Interesting idea...
My guess is the MU does have a master plan... but obviously isn't sharing it with the public.
It would be interesting to show the master plan and timeline so people could know what to expect over the next 10-15years...
The only problem is that a lot of times plans change and/or are dictated by the amount of money donated. Also, often times donations are made with stipulations attached (ie I will donate 1million dollars, but it has to go to a new life sciences building, etc.)
Nevertheless, a comprehensive plan and model would be a pretty cool way to launch a new capital campaign.
Quote from: MU gimp ONE on July 27, 2007, 09:45:03 AM
i don't think mccormick will get done for the 3-5 years. keep in mind they just sank about a million into renovating the dining room/kitchen not that long ago. probably around 3 or 4 years ago. it probably will be torn down or renovated, but i don't see it happening till some other projects wrap up.
also, i thought the business school was named after David Straz.
I believe just the building itself is named after Straz, but not the name of the college itself. The trend in recent years has been to name the actual college after someone (e.g. Sloan School of Management (MIT), Kellogg School of Management (Northwestern), Kelly School of Business (Indiana), Tippie School of Management (Iowa), etc.).
Quote from: MilTown on July 27, 2007, 08:36:32 AM
Schroeder is more modern, but still needs a major renovation. We have enjoyed a period of high applications and admissions in spite of inadequate freshman and sophomore housing, but at some point the tide will turn, and the dorms will be a large factor in the decision making process.
This is not a priority, but I would like to see a student union on the main campus (south of WI Ave) The AMU is a complete waste of space. The AMU is not functional for student use, and really serves no purpose in my mind other than to host some functions in the ball rooms. The annex is nice, but in a bad location and too small. I know there is not much space left on the main campus, but I think something could be done.
A student union south of WI Ave. You mean like the BMU? I don't know how old you are, but that is where the old union was until 1990 (or 1991). I don't think it would go over very well building a new union so soon after the current new union (it's still new to me).
I can't believe people think Schroeder needs to be remodeled. I am not saying it doesn't, because I haven't been in it for about 16 years. But, didn't they just remodel the first floor (lobby, cafeteria) and all of the study lounges a few years back?
Quote from: MU gimp ONE on July 27, 2007, 09:45:03 AM
i don't think mccormick will get done for the 3-5 years. keep in mind they just sank about a million into renovating the dining room/kitchen not that long ago. probably around 3 or 4 years ago. it probably will be torn down or renovated, but i don't see it happening till some other projects wrap up.
also, i thought the business school was named after David Straz.
the building is named after Straz, not the biz school.
To me, the AMU doesn't serve its purpose as a student union. I come from a Marquette family and know two people on the donor plaques near the main stairs. Both have no idea what the purpose of the union is and were very upset with how it turned out. The union is supposed to be the heart of campus activity. Our union is dead for the most part. There is really no reason for students to go there. It's a nice building to have on campus for special events, meetings, and shows, but it is not a functional student union. I think they can do better.
I graduated in 99, and I believe the old union building was still there. It was called Brooks Hall. It was torn down for the new library. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
Quote from: MilTown on July 27, 2007, 02:14:53 PM
To me, the AMU doesn't serve its purpose as a student union. I come from a Marquette family and know two people on the donor plaques near the main stairs. Both have no idea what the purpose of the union is and were very upset with how it turned out. The union is supposed to be the heart of campus activity. Our union is dead for the most part. There is really no reason for students to go there. It's a nice building to have on campus for special events, meetings, and shows, but it is not a functional student union. I think they can do better.
I graduated in 99, and I believe the old union building was still there. It was called Brooks Hall. It was torn down for the new library. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
Not functional? Have you been there at night when it is literally packed with students studying? Sure, it doesn't have a student hangout for if you aren't doing anything like the Brooks Union did, but when they found that no one really used it. There used to be that restaurant in the basement and they found that people would rather go to one of the chain places, Subway or Jimmy Johns or whatever.
I think if you looked at student unions at most colleges it would be the same. They just aren't the place they used to be years ago, most are just a waste of space because to today's student the notion that a campus building is the heart of activity at school is antiquated.
Quote from: MilTown on July 27, 2007, 02:14:53 PM
To me, the AMU doesn't serve its purpose as a student union. I come from a Marquette family and know two people on the donor plaques near the main stairs. Both have no idea what the purpose of the union is and were very upset with how it turned out. The union is supposed to be the heart of campus activity. Our union is dead for the most part. There is really no reason for students to go there. It's a nice building to have on campus for special events, meetings, and shows, but it is not a functional student union. I think they can do better.
I graduated in 99, and I believe the old union building was still there. It was called Brooks Hall. It was torn down for the new library. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
Brooks was torn down for the library.
I agree with what bma said above. The AMU is definitely used by the students. They don't hang out there, but I have met with groups for projects / studying there several times. There is usually a significant amount of people studying there throughout the week. It's where a lot of people go to be social and study at the same time.
The union is a popular study spot (I'd say 2nd to Raynor) and is always busy around lunchtime during the school year.
Quote from: IAmMarquette on July 27, 2007, 03:58:26 PM
The union is a popular study spot (I'd say 2nd to Raynor) and is always busy around lunchtime during the school year.
Usually a decent crowd around 10-11ish PM for Eagle Option (late night food for a meal swipe if you have a meal plan).
I guess we have different opinions on what the union should be. If you think the union should be a giant study hall, then it serves a purpose. Even so, there is a lot of wasted space. Here is a bright idea, if students like Jimmy Johns or Subway, why not have those restaurants in the union??? The Pizza Hut just doesn't cut it, and same goes for the Marriott food service (or whatever is there now). Maybe toss a Starbucks or Jahmba Juice in the union. How about some retail other than the Bookstore? I just think they have made no effort whatsoever to improve the union and make it more of a destination for students. Part of it is due to the physical space.
agreed on the physical space. I think they did a good job of making it look cool from the outside, but inside it just turned into a warren of hallways and rooms and dead space.
Best AMU memory hitting the MugRack, ask for the 32oz Beer in a Coke cup and head over to Physics lecture, then on to happy hour.
I find the thread about the Union interesting .. I was there 87-91, so had 3 years of Briggs, and 1 year of the new .. and was ASMU Treasurer (bow before me) the last year, so did a lot of work on the new offices, ordering stuff, moving, meeting about the design of the new union, etc.
The old union certainly had character in spades. But if you don't like the functionality of the new union, you would have hated the old one. Briggs was pretty basic. From memory, all it had was The Grill (beer and some food, lots of character) an arcade/pool hall, basement study area .. main floor was a big cafeteria and lots of meeting rooms .. upper was a ballroom and more meeting rooms. That was it.
The new union, while lacking in character, adds a ton more stuff. Would a few more chain restaurants really pack em in? More is better, one could argue.
I would be interested in hearing what the specific complaints were from donors (or whoever) who were "unhappy" with the way the new union turned out -- and if they remained so, after a few years with the many renovations that occurred .. that place hardly looks like it did 17 years ago, as they've added a ton more functionality.
I think it's a matter of whim. I had friends who all hung out at the old union, but my wife just said she never did. To each his own. -- But clearly, the new union has a large following in daytime. At night, kids are probably in their dorm room playing Xbox in their own room on their 56" plasmas while surfing porn on their own T1 line. Hard to compete with that!
Brooks Memorial Union.
I think a problem with the Alumni Memorial Union is that it was poorly designed. I have no idea why entrances are not located on Wisconsin Avenue and/or Wells Street. I'm sure security played a role on the Wells Street side, but still. The whole thing is kind of a monstrosity. I have a hard time believing that was part of any "master plan." The old union was definitely more of a hangout and I think a lot of that had to do with the location right in the middle of campus, with easy access. You have to actually go out of your way to go to the current union.
I also think the Weasler Auditorium was a waste of money.
The campus looks fantastic, it's just such a hodge podge.
Plus, they built the new Union on the spot I cracked my head open on a light pole while playing mud football one Friday afternoon my freshman year. 5 stitches. Ah, memories. Brooks was kind of anonymous and barren, but it was my union, so I have fond memories. I remember seeing members of the Violent Femmes playing an acoustic set in the Mugrack. I remember Chris Farley trying stand-up there. I didn't think he was that great at stand-up. Friday concerts in the basement ballroom. The first BoDeans show I ever saw was there. Being able to order a beer in the student union. Extended study sessions in the main floor big room. The new one is beautiful, but it isn't mine and as I only go there as an alum, my opinion isn't really relevant.
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on July 29, 2007, 08:49:47 AM
The campus looks fantastic, it's just such a hodge podge.
I agree with PRN on this one.
As a student, it didn't really smack of nonsense because I just wanted to get to class.
But as an MU tourguide (1994-1998), it was hard to explain why Brooks was empty and not really used (ROTC, PT, and clubs still used it albeit sparingly), why Lalumiere looks like that, and then tour the math/it building that was so shiny and new yet looked really different from the rest of the buildings. If there was one thing I would appreciate more is a campus that didn't have so many starkingly different buildings (in appearance).
I recently took the video tour of MU and I'm sure it looks even more different than before...esp. with the new Dentistry building and Raynor.
QuoteHere is a bright idea, if students like Jimmy Johns or Subway, why not have those restaurants in the union??? The Pizza Hut just doesn't cut it, and same goes for the Marriott food service (or whatever is there now). Maybe toss a Starbucks or Jahmba Juice in the union.
There is a coffee shop in the AMU that is quite popular. There's also one on "The Bridge" which connects the 2 libraries, and that is almost always packed.
Quote from: 77ncaachamps on July 29, 2007, 01:25:13 PM
I recently took the video tour of MU and I'm sure it looks even more different than before...esp. with the new Dentistry building and Raynor.
I disagree.
I think the new buildings really adhere to the fundamentals of the classic architecture on campus (Johnston Hall, Marquette Hall). The Raynor, to me, is a modern adaptation of MH, down to the contrasting brick / stone trim and the "refreshed" spires. I think both the dental school and "the Al" share that updated look.
As old buildings are torn down (Lalumiere, McCormick), I think the new buildings will tie the campus together -- visually -- even better.
Right now it is a little hodgepodge, but it is far nicer now than when I started in '98...At least to me...
I was just on campus for my reunion and noticed a placed called the "Dogg Haus" on Wells by Real Chili and what looked like a burrito place where the Blockbuster used to be on Wells. What's the deal with these places? I always thought that Jalisco's should have opened a late night burrito/taco counter on Wells. They would have made a killing. The George Webb seems like a positive upgrade over the Dairy Queen that used to be in that space.
Quote from: Avenue Commons on July 30, 2007, 09:05:03 AM
I was just on campus for my reunion and noticed a placed called the "Dogg Haus" on Wells by Real Chili and what looked like a burrito place where the Blockbuster used to be on Wells. What's the deal with these places? I always thought that Jalisco's should have opened a late night burrito/taco counter on Wells. They would have made a killing. The George Webb seems like a positive upgrade over the Dairy Queen that used to be in that space.
Dogg Haus opened up in the Fall of 2006. It is a Chicago style hot dog place. The thing about it is, you can get regular dogs and put whatever on it, but they have some specialty dogs like the Rome, which is a dog with mozzarella, italian beef, and giardenera. Sounds weird but its pretty good. There are like 8 specialty dogs which include ones with three different kinds of tabasco sauce, different mixes of cheeses, etc. I really can't think of the rest because it's been closed pretty much all summer. I think the place is pretty good, but is definitely overpriced. They have another one on the east side of Milwaukee too.
The burrito place is actually Open Pantry. They are moving from their location next to BookMarq over to the old Blockbuster area on 17th and Wells. They are apparently supposed to have some sort of taco/burrito bar in the place too. It's supposed to be opened in time for the start of the semester.
As for Webb's. I don't know anyone that actually goes there. I think that place is awful and it seems to be a common sentiment around campus.
The AMU is utilized just about every weekend for late night events. During the week it can be a bit dead other than studying but I used Brooks Lounge to play pool on those nice tables every now and again and with the Annex, there really wasn't a need for another place on campus with that type of atmosphere. I haven't heard much recently about whate they're doing with that space. Can anyone fill me in?
it's interesting how there never seems to be any diversity in the food places that open up around campus. the most prominent theme being sub places (cousins, subway, jimmy john's) pizza places (angelo's, papa john's) and now burrito places (the burrito bar in the new open pantry and also the new burrito bar that ziggie's opened up about a year or so ago). i tried the burrito bar by ziggie's once and it was awful. i never see anyone in there and am starting to wonder how that must be affecting his business. i mean a greek guy trying to pull off mexican food is alittle ambitious in my opinion. i don't have that high of hopes for the o.p. burrito stand either. they should have just opened up a qudoba or chipotle in that spot and they would make a fortune! dogg haus is always packed late at night when they're open just because its relatively cheap, alot better quality food than gyros and just a fresh change of pace from all the other crappy places to choose from that late at night.
this is one area that i actually (gulp) envy uwm. they have so many great places to eat around that area it's ridiculous. it's too bad mu has seemingly no interest in building up a quality dining area around campus.
Don't get me started on Ziggies. I f'n hate that place and that guy. I cannot believe that he is still around, and that he has a burrito place now. That guy was the biggest tool. I mean, how can you charge extra for ketchup and mustard? He probably advertises a 99 cent burrito that consists of a tortilla and a couple pieces of steak. Sour cream, cheese, lettuce, salsa, tomato's, and beans are all an additional 50 cents each.
Quote from: snakesinthesnoilet on July 30, 2007, 11:43:13 AM
they should have just opened up a qudoba or chipotle in that spot and they would make a fortune! dogg haus is always packed late at night when they're open just because its relatively cheap, alot better quality food than gyros and just a fresh change of pace from all the other crappy places to choose from that late at night.
this is one area that i actually (gulp) envy uwm. they have so many great places to eat around that area it's ridiculous. it's too bad mu has seemingly no interest in building up a quality dining area around campus.
The issue is year round population density to support these establishments. The East Side of Milwaukee can support these places as the vast majority of people who live there do year round. It is not just students who live around UWM as it also home to just regular residents. On the contrary, Marquette is a virtual ghost town for about 3.5 months a year when half of the population has to go home as they live in dorms.
Quote from: Chili on July 30, 2007, 11:57:15 AM
Quote from: snakesinthesnoilet on July 30, 2007, 11:43:13 AM
they should have just opened up a qudoba or chipotle in that spot and they would make a fortune! dogg haus is always packed late at night when they're open just because its relatively cheap, alot better quality food than gyros and just a fresh change of pace from all the other crappy places to choose from that late at night.
this is one area that i actually (gulp) envy uwm. they have so many great places to eat around that area it's ridiculous. it's too bad mu has seemingly no interest in building up a quality dining area around campus.
The issue is year round population density to support these establishments. The East Side of Milwaukee can support these places as the vast majority of people who live there do year round. It is not just students who live around UWM as it also home to just regular residents. On the contrary, Marquette is a virtual ghost town for about 3.5 months a year when half of the population has to go home as they live in dorms.
Marquette Gyros and Real Chili and Ziggie's (but not Ziggomania) have been around forever even with there not being a lot of students around and the reason is they offer at least decent food at a reasonable price. The problem with a lot of these places that go under are they just aren't very good. I've always said that a good late night burrito place on Marquette's campus (or any campus for that matter) would make a killing just on Thursday through Saturday night.
Quote from: Avenue Commons on July 30, 2007, 01:02:33 PM
Quote from: Chili on July 30, 2007, 11:57:15 AM
Quote from: snakesinthesnoilet on July 30, 2007, 11:43:13 AM
they should have just opened up a qudoba or chipotle in that spot and they would make a fortune! dogg haus is always packed late at night when they're open just because its relatively cheap, alot better quality food than gyros and just a fresh change of pace from all the other crappy places to choose from that late at night.
this is one area that i actually (gulp) envy uwm. they have so many great places to eat around that area it's ridiculous. it's too bad mu has seemingly no interest in building up a quality dining area around campus.
The issue is year round population density to support these establishments. The East Side of Milwaukee can support these places as the vast majority of people who live there do year round. It is not just students who live around UWM as it also home to just regular residents. On the contrary, Marquette is a virtual ghost town for about 3.5 months a year when half of the population has to go home as they live in dorms.
Marquette Gyros and Real Chili and Ziggie's (but not Ziggomania) have been around forever even with there not being a lot of students around and the reason is they offer at least decent food at a reasonable price. The problem with a lot of these places that go under are they just aren't very good. I've always said that a good late night burrito place on Marquette's campus (or any campus for that matter) would make a killing just on Thursday through Saturday night.
Those are also established businesses. Real Chili has very low overhead and huge fan base even during lunch. Ziggy's and Gyro's are also staples. By adding in a new restaurant you are just diluting the profit pool by which these businesses draw from. There are only so many dollars to go around to support business. And the above mentioned make their money in 8 months to support the rest of the year. Marquette is really at a saturation point with restaurants.
Yeah, it's funny to hear complaints about a lack of dining options. You would have been really mad 15 years ago, when your choices would have been HALF what they are today.
Marquette Gyros and Real Chili and Ziggie's (but not Ziggomania) have been around forever even with there not being a lot of students around and the reason is they offer at least decent food at a reasonable price.....
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Add Angelos to that list, man do I miss those little pepperonis
Quote from: MilTown on July 30, 2007, 11:55:51 AM
Don't get me started on Ziggies. I f'n hate that place and that guy. I cannot believe that he is still around, and that he has a burrito place now. That guy was the biggest tool. I mean, how can you charge extra for ketchup and mustard? He probably advertises a 99 cent burrito that consists of a tortilla and a couple pieces of steak. Sour cream, cheese, lettuce, salsa, tomato's, and beans are all an additional 50 cents each.
"what, you don't want a breast. you no like-e the small breast? let me smoke a cigarette while I cook for you."
A really good way to piss Ziggy off is to try to take your picture with him. 8)
I know a guy who brought a bottle of ketchup into Ziggys. I guess Ziggy flipped his lid and almost took a swing at my buddy. I think I also remember somebody slashing the tires on his lincoln. Anything you ordered took about a half hour to make and the whole time Ziggy wants to hear your view on world events and argue with you. What a freak that guy was.
Those are also established businesses. Real Chili has very low overhead and huge fan base even during lunch. Ziggy's and Gyro's are also staples. By adding in a new restaurant you are just diluting the profit pool by which these businesses draw from. There are only so many dollars to go around to support business. And the above mentioned make their money in 8 months to support the rest of the year. Marquette is really at a saturation point with restaurants.
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Overhead, profit pools, saturation points? What is this, a Marquetting lecture at Straz Hall or a basketball message board!
Quote from: Avenue Commons on July 30, 2007, 02:42:17 PM
Those are also established businesses. Real Chili has very low overhead and huge fan base even during lunch. Ziggy's and Gyro's are also staples. By adding in a new restaurant you are just diluting the profit pool by which these businesses draw from. There are only so many dollars to go around to support business. And the above mentioned make their money in 8 months to support the rest of the year. Marquette is really at a saturation point with restaurants.
Overhead, profit pools, saturation points? What is this, a Marquetting lecture at Straz Hall or a basketball message board!
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Nice use of Marquette in Marketing! :) lol
I don't know how valid this is, but a friend in the know told me that one of the problems with getting more diverse places on campus is some of the leases that Marquette gives out. Apparently when George Webb's game in part of the contract said that Marquette was not allowed to lease out any building on Well's to a hamburger place (supposedly Webb's big seller but personally I only go there for breakfast). I guess a couple of places wanted to go into the blockbuster but they were hamburger sellers so Marquette could not rent to them... I find that kinda interesting
I was there from 98-02 and I used the union quite a bit. I'll always remember pulling all-nights during finals, going outside in the cold to smoke cigarettes as the sun came up and i was on my forth cup of coffee.
I also frequented the Brew Bayou during my freshman and sophomore years.
used the chapel in the union for sunday night masses, too.
come to think of it, I actually think that while unspectacular, the AMU is quite functional for many campus uses.
QuoteI don't know how valid this is, but a friend in the know told me that one of the problems with getting more diverse places on campus is some of the leases that Marquette gives out. Apparently when George Webb's game in part of the contract said that Marquette was not allowed to lease out any building on Well's to a hamburger place (supposedly Webb's big seller but personally I only go there for breakfast). I guess a couple of places wanted to go into the blockbuster but they were hamburger sellers so Marquette could not rent to them... I find that kinda interesting
I have also heard this and that might explain why it was so hard to find a suitor for the old blockbuster considering this location is prime real estate (corner of 17th and wells right on a college campus). The new Open Pantry looks pretty nice so far but it is still just an OP.
Quote from: snakesinthesnoilet on July 31, 2007, 11:20:14 AM
QuoteI don't know how valid this is, but a friend in the know told me that one of the problems with getting more diverse places on campus is some of the leases that Marquette gives out. Apparently when George Webb's game in part of the contract said that Marquette was not allowed to lease out any building on Well's to a hamburger place (supposedly Webb's big seller but personally I only go there for breakfast). I guess a couple of places wanted to go into the blockbuster but they were hamburger sellers so Marquette could not rent to them... I find that kinda interesting
I have also heard this and that might explain why it was so hard to find a suitor for the old blockbuster considering this location is prime real estate (corner of 17th and wells right on a college campus). The new Open Pantry looks pretty nice so far but it is still just an OP.
But it will have a beer cave too.
why is OP moving? is the blockbuster smaller? There is a ton of wasted space in the current op.
Mu also charges a $hit ton of money for their leases too. That's partially why the coffee shop moved out of campus town in 99-00.
Quote from: Chili on July 31, 2007, 11:54:13 AM
Quote from: snakesinthesnoilet on July 31, 2007, 11:20:14 AM
QuoteI don't know how valid this is, but a friend in the know told me that one of the problems with getting more diverse places on campus is some of the leases that Marquette gives out. Apparently when George Webb's game in part of the contract said that Marquette was not allowed to lease out any building on Well's to a hamburger place (supposedly Webb's big seller but personally I only go there for breakfast). I guess a couple of places wanted to go into the blockbuster but they were hamburger sellers so Marquette could not rent to them... I find that kinda interesting
I have also heard this and that might explain why it was so hard to find a suitor for the old blockbuster considering this location is prime real estate (corner of 17th and wells right on a college campus). The new Open Pantry looks pretty nice so far but it is still just an OP.
But it will have a beer cave too.
What the hell's a Beer Cave? Are you kidding or will there be some kind of bar in the basement of the Open Pantry? So let me get this straight, Open Pantry will have a burrito place upstairs and a bar in the basement? Now I've heard it all.
Quote from: Avenue Commons on July 31, 2007, 04:39:24 PM
Quote from: Chili on July 31, 2007, 11:54:13 AM
Quote from: snakesinthesnoilet on July 31, 2007, 11:20:14 AM
QuoteI don't know how valid this is, but a friend in the know told me that one of the problems with getting more diverse places on campus is some of the leases that Marquette gives out. Apparently when George Webb's game in part of the contract said that Marquette was not allowed to lease out any building on Well's to a hamburger place (supposedly Webb's big seller but personally I only go there for breakfast). I guess a couple of places wanted to go into the blockbuster but they were hamburger sellers so Marquette could not rent to them... I find that kinda interesting
I have also heard this and that might explain why it was so hard to find a suitor for the old blockbuster considering this location is prime real estate (corner of 17th and wells right on a college campus). The new Open Pantry looks pretty nice so far but it is still just an OP.
A beer cave is a large walk in cooler with a lot of beer. It allows for more cold beer to be on display at one time.
But it will have a beer cave too.
What the hell's a Beer Cave? Are you kidding or will there be some kind of bar in the basement of the Open Pantry? So let me get this straight, Open Pantry will have a burrito place upstairs and a bar in the basement? Now I've heard it all.
Quote from: Chili on July 31, 2007, 04:47:00 PM
Quote from: Avenue Commons on July 31, 2007, 04:39:24 PM
Quote from: Chili on July 31, 2007, 11:54:13 AM
Quote from: snakesinthesnoilet on July 31, 2007, 11:20:14 AM
QuoteI don't know how valid this is, but a friend in the know told me that one of the problems with getting more diverse places on campus is some of the leases that Marquette gives out. Apparently when George Webb's game in part of the contract said that Marquette was not allowed to lease out any building on Well's to a hamburger place (supposedly Webb's big seller but personally I only go there for breakfast). I guess a couple of places wanted to go into the blockbuster but they were hamburger sellers so Marquette could not rent to them... I find that kinda interesting
I have also heard this and that might explain why it was so hard to find a suitor for the old blockbuster considering this location is prime real estate (corner of 17th and wells right on a college campus). The new Open Pantry looks pretty nice so far but it is still just an OP.
A beer cave is a large walk in cooler with a lot of beer. It allows for more cold beer to be on display at one time.
But it will have a beer cave too.
What the hell's a Beer Cave? Are you kidding or will there be some kind of bar in the basement of the Open Pantry? So let me get this straight, Open Pantry will have a burrito place upstairs and a bar in the basement? Now I've heard it all.
never had a problem with the old OP's "beer cave." Just told Joyce that we were going in back to restock and shotgunned all of the loose cans out of the busted cases. Then Joyce gave us free smokes and fountain drinks. ;D Then Joyce went to jail. :'(
Joyce must have learned at the knee of "Randy", former store manager who was known to get high in those coolers with preferred customers.
the new op opened yesterday and its pretty nice, a little too nice for a convenience store, almost made me forget where i was. reminds me a lot of the bridge at raynor.
the new OP is awesome. Has everything college students need. A lot like a 711 now, oh thank heaven. :)
Quote from: muhoosier260 on August 02, 2007, 07:34:02 AM
the new op opened yesterday and its pretty nice, a little too nice for a convenience store, almost made me forget where i was. reminds me a lot of the bridge at raynor.
Of all the things on campus that I'm "jealous" of, Raynor Library tops the list. That place is awesome. I don't know how anyone gets any studying done, but it's great. I'm proud to have made a (small) contribution to it getting built.
not many people get that much studying done there. lots of groups meeting for projects and whatnot...the law library or a secluded place to go in memorial are the spots to be to get some studying done...this is hear-say on my part though since I really don't study that much outside my room. I'm one of those ppl.
Quote from: muwarrior87 on August 06, 2007, 12:28:13 PM
not many people get that much studying done there. lots of groups meeting for projects and whatnot...the law library or a secluded place to go in memorial are the spots to be to get some studying done...this is hear-say on my part though since I really don't study that much outside my room. I'm one of those ppl.
That's pretty dead on. I've never been to the law library though. Nothing gets done on the bridge (unless you are meeting with a group, even then I usually end up in the study rooms of raynor). If you need to get stuff done Memorial is where to go. There is so much to that library that I didn't even know existed and you can regularly wander up to the secluded areas of the third floor to find people napping on the floor after they have been there for hours upon hours.
Quote from: eaglewarrior08 on August 06, 2007, 01:25:17 PM
Quote from: muwarrior87 on August 06, 2007, 12:28:13 PM
not many people get that much studying done there. lots of groups meeting for projects and whatnot...the law library or a secluded place to go in memorial are the spots to be to get some studying done...this is hear-say on my part though since I really don't study that much outside my room. I'm one of those ppl.
That's pretty dead on. I've never been to the law library though. Nothing gets done on the bridge (unless you are meeting with a group, even then I usually end up in the study rooms of raynor). If you need to get stuff done Memorial is where to go. There is so much to that library that I didn't even know existed and you can regularly wander up to the secluded areas of the third floor to find people napping on the floor after they have been there for hours upon hours.
Yeah, I used to go back in a corner on one of the top floors of Memorial to study. This was before iPods and I tried to stay as far away from people as possible to find some peace and quiet. I'd have given anything to have an iPod then. Studying would be way easier to just put some music on and tune out the world.
Quote from: Avenue Commons on August 06, 2007, 03:32:56 PM
Quote from: eaglewarrior08 on August 06, 2007, 01:25:17 PM
Quote from: muwarrior87 on August 06, 2007, 12:28:13 PM
not many people get that much studying done there. lots of groups meeting for projects and whatnot...the law library or a secluded place to go in memorial are the spots to be to get some studying done...this is hear-say on my part though since I really don't study that much outside my room. I'm one of those ppl.
That's pretty dead on. I've never been to the law library though. Nothing gets done on the bridge (unless you are meeting with a group, even then I usually end up in the study rooms of raynor). If you need to get stuff done Memorial is where to go. There is so much to that library that I didn't even know existed and you can regularly wander up to the secluded areas of the third floor to find people napping on the floor after they have been there for hours upon hours.
Yeah, I used to go back in a corner on one of the top floors of Memorial to study. This was before iPods and I tried to stay as far away from people as possible to find some peace and quiet. I'd have given anything to have an iPod then. Studying would be way easier to just put some music on and tune out the world.
one weekend right after midterms i really want to get my floor together and go play lazer tag or something in memorial, when not many people are there. it's so much like a maze it'd make for a really good game i think w/ the split floor levels.
Just got back from Milwaukee/Chicago and I'm trying to catch up here on MUScoop!
I visited the new OP (where Blockbuster used to be in Campus Town). I didn't even know it was new. They have a sliding glass door towards the back middle of the store that is the "beer cave" - it's a huge cooler that stores multipacks of beer kinda like your grocery stores would. I don't recall kegs.
There is a seating area with tables and chairs in front of a large tv screen. Hanging near them are two Wade jerseys (MU retro and Heat) as well as a Diener jersey on the adjoining wall. They also have two computers with internet access you can use; they time you out at 15 minutes automatically.
I took pictures of my trip...I was ASTOUNDED by the improvements to the campus. One improvement of note is the addition of the old Brooks Memorial fresco to the AMU's rotunda area.
I'll try and get the pictures up.
Quote from: muwarrior87 on August 06, 2007, 12:28:13 PM
not many people get that much studying done there. lots of groups meeting for projects and whatnot...the law library or a secluded place to go in memorial are the spots to be to get some studying done...this is hear-say on my part though since I really don't study that much outside my room. I'm one of those ppl.
4th floor of the science library....cuddle up in one of those cubes among the stacks. Very quiet, no one bothering you. Great place to study or fall asleep.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on August 12, 2007, 03:09:32 AM
Quote from: muwarrior87 on August 06, 2007, 12:28:13 PM
not many people get that much studying done there. lots of groups meeting for projects and whatnot...the law library or a secluded place to go in memorial are the spots to be to get some studying done...this is hear-say on my part though since I really don't study that much outside my room. I'm one of those ppl.
4th floor of the science library....cuddle up in one of those cubes among the stacks. Very quiet, no one bothering you. Great place to study or fall asleep.
more often than not the latter for me
too bad the science library no longer exists :(
The science library no longer exists? :o
Since when? What is it now?
I would not have made it through Junior year without that place!
The library was integrated into the Memorial in 2004:
QuoteTechnical services departments move into new 1st floor quarters in January. Lower level of Memorial Library opens new compact shelving area for Memorial bound periodicals. Second phase of compact shelving added to accomodate Science Periodicals. Renovation of Memorial shelving and reading areas completed. Entire Memorial monographic collection shifted to incorporate Science Library collection. Science Library closes as a public facility. Link (http://www.marquette.edu/library/information/history.html)
I'm not 100% what's there now, but I think Speech Path moved in after Dental moved out. If you were a science guy, you might know what wasn't in there before: Campus Tour Stop #29 (http://www.marquette.edu/contact/tour/schroeder.shtml)
Here's a picture of workers installing the Brooks Mosaic into the Union rotunda wall (across from the Info desk):
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y201/teacheric/Vacations/2007%20Summer%20Milwaukee%20Chicago/Marquette21.jpg)
And here is a picture of the open space being established between Carpenter and Cobeen:
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y201/teacheric/Vacations/2007%20Summer%20Milwaukee%20Chicago/Marquette03.jpg)
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y201/teacheric/Vacations/2007%20Summer%20Milwaukee%20Chicago/Marquette04.jpg)
Finally, it's good to know that there are SOME things that don't change: ;)
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y201/teacheric/Vacations/2007%20Summer%20Milwaukee%20Chicago/Marquette08.jpg)
those workers better get a move-on, the freshmen will be here in a little over a week and there's still no grass in the so called new mall!
i think whether or not they install grass in time is kind of irrelevant. it's not like they're actually creating any real "green" space that can be used for anything. the grass is basically there just to not have the whole thing be one big concrete walkway
Quote from: muhoosier260 on August 13, 2007, 07:15:25 AM
those workers better get a move-on, the freshmen will be here in a little over a week and there's still no grass in the so called new mall!
There isn't going to be grass there, the path will be done and it will be like McCormick unloading and then driving off on move-in day. I'm an RA in Carpenter and that's what we've been told earlier today actually. Construction to be completed by this Friday. The aesthetics will be a bit longer coming. I believe the grass will be put in by the end of September since it really isn't that important to have the grass. Just nice to look at when the Board makes their seasonal visit.
Thanks for the pictures, I was wondering what that would look like. And weird, it was overcast in Milwaukee... I thought that never happened. :D
Just walked by the new pedestrian walkway after work, and noticed that they had laid down all of the dirt (really coming together now). However, they've left about 2 inches of space between the dirt and the sidewalk, so they are probably going to end up laying down sod instead of grass seed after the watering system is installed. That probably should be expected though seeing as how much sod Marquette lays down after they salt the earth every winter. :-\
Quote from: Prevent Offense on August 12, 2007, 08:16:48 AM
too bad the science library no longer exists :(
Well no crap....I had no idea. That's too bad, that was a great place to study. No distractions whatsoever, no pretty girls (it was the science library after all), no foot traffic, no elevators opening every minute. Just you and the books and you're private little cube.
Too bad.