Marquette jumped from 49th to 39th in Pomeroy after defeating Wisconsin. As for the leaders in Pomeroy, the top 40 in the country are the top 1%, etc., below, and I with D. Wilson and Anderson just missing the 40% of all minutesand Taylor and Ferguson further down in minutes, I noted any time one of those four would have rated in the top 3% if they had enough minutes, and Anderson would actually be in the top 10% in both Blocks and Steals with just a couple of more minutes played.
Offensive Rating: Thomas top 4%, J. Wilson top 10%, Otule 11%, Gardner 13%
Shooting (eFG%): Taylor top 2%* (if enough minutes), Ferguson 2%
Offensive Rebounder: Gardner top 1% (7th in country)
Defensive Rebounding: None
Assist Rate: Cadougan top 2%
Turnover%: Thomas top 6%
Block%: Otule 3%, J. Wilson 8%, Gardner 8%
Steal%: Ferguson 1%*, D. Wilson 3%*
Fouls Charge (not fouling): Cadougan 2%, Blue 8%
Fouls Drawn: Gardner 10%
WI is 11th with 4 losses. Even Ken Pom is at a loss for how Bucky stays so high.....
Happened last year too - Ken Pom ratings seriously flawed...
Quote from: Nukem2 on December 09, 2012, 08:51:29 PM
WI is 11th with 4 losses. Even Ken Pom is at a loss for how Bucky stays so high.....
Quote from: madtownwarrior on December 09, 2012, 08:57:54 PM
Happened last year too - Ken Pom ratings seriously flawed...
Actually, K Pom is Very good. Bucky is just the outlier.
Quote from: Nukem2 on December 09, 2012, 08:51:29 PM
WI is 11th with 4 losses. Even Ken Pom is at a loss for how Bucky stays so high.....
Hopefully they keep losing but keep helping MU's RPI.
sorry to post this in 2 strands, but it really went better here:
On Pomeroy and Wisconsin:
In 2009, he had them 29th they won their first round game, which is what the top 32 should do, and in the other 4 years they were knocked out one game earlier than their Pomeroy level would have picked them, and in light of that including a narrow loss to Syracuse last year and eventual runner up Butler the year before, I think Pomeroy usually is more accurate on Wisconsin than others.
The reason I believe Nolan and other are way off on them is I believe they all use point spreads, which is very distroting when dealing with a team that plays at a slower pace. If Wisconsin beats a team 48-40 and another team beats the same common opponent 96-80, a rating system relying on spreads believes Wisconsin is much worse than the other team, but I woudl say they are not (though I am not going to actually run Pythagorean to figure out the exact). I really believe Wisconsin is cheated by other systems not unfairly helped by Pomeroy in most years, but someone could study to compare.
As for this year, I do believe they are a bit high because part of his rating through the first several games is based on preseason perception and I'm not sure he really factored Gasser leaving. That's why I like Value Add (obviously i'm biased). Gasser is a top 100 projected player at a 5.88%, so when you take him out Wisconsin drops from the 25th best projected team to the 53rd best team, but I believe Ryan has them solidly in the tournament by the end, which would be good for MU's resume.