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Title: [PaintTouches]Comparing Cadougan’s Novembers
Post by: PaintTouchesSays on December 05, 2012, 08:15:05 AM
Comparing Cadougan’s Novembers
      


Written by: Andrei Greska
            


Much like the analysis of Vander Blue from a few weeks ago, this topic began with a simple question: What's wrong with Junior Cadougan? Let me rephrase that. Why does it seem that Junior is regressing instead of taking a ... Continue reading → (http://painttouches.com/2012/12/05/comparing-cadougans-novembers/)
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Title: Re: [PaintTouches]Comparing Cadougan’s Novembers
Post by: MU82 on December 05, 2012, 09:16:48 AM
Nice piece. Spot-on conclusion: Junior needs to play better because he is the team's most important player.
Title: Re: [PaintTouches]Comparing Cadougan’s Novembers
Post by: Badgerhater on December 05, 2012, 09:33:09 AM
Assists are less a sign of a single player's effectiveness but more a sign of the effectiveness of a team's offense.

Players who drive and score won't put assists in the PG's stat line.

Shooters who miss won't put assists on that stat line either.

Inside players who get their shots blocked or throw up bad shots won't help the line much either.

Floor generals are only as good as their guys they pass to and only then if the offensive scheme is designed to favor them.

Get the other four guys on the floor in synch and Cadougan's assist line takes care of itself.
Title: Re: [PaintTouches]Comparing Cadougan’s Novembers
Post by: JTBMU7 on December 05, 2012, 10:16:56 AM
exactly, caddy can't put the ball in the hoop for other guys. he'll only be as good as the players around him. he/we need Wilson and Lockett to start scoring more consistently.
Title: Re: [PaintTouches]Comparing Cadougan’s Novembers
Post by: MU82 on December 05, 2012, 10:31:16 AM
No, Caddy can't put the ball in the hoop for the other guys, but it would be nice if Caddy occasionally put the ball in the hoop for himself. Also would be nice if he cut down on his turnovers.

He HAS to be this team's leader, based on his position and his seniority.
Title: Re: [PaintTouches]Comparing Cadougan’s Novembers
Post by: BCHoopster on December 05, 2012, 10:37:32 AM
The best thing about Junior is that is a senior, can not wait to see a point that can score, Duane Wilson can not get here soon enough. 
Title: Re: [PaintTouches]Comparing Cadougan’s Novembers
Post by: RJax55 on December 05, 2012, 12:58:45 PM
Good article, but you need to look more in-depth at Junior's turnovers.

The three games MU has had against cupcakes (Colgate, SE Louisiana, UMBC) he has 1 turnover total.

Against better competition, the Maui games and Florida, he is averaging 3.5 turnovers a game. Not good.
Title: Re: [PaintTouches]Comparing Cadougan’s Novembers
Post by: JD on December 05, 2012, 01:38:57 PM
This shouldn't be new news to anybody.  Junior always has struggled against par to above par teams.  He can fill the stat lines with easier Non Confrence opponents, but time and time again I watch him struggle with teams that pressure him and have decent guard play.  I'm not here to bring Cadougan down, I just don't see him providing much more than 4pts, 3assist per game this year. 

I too am looking forward to D Will, i hope he gets more minutes throughout the season.
Title: Re: [PaintTouches]Comparing Cadougan’s Novembers
Post by: Boone on December 05, 2012, 02:24:17 PM
RJax and JDuquaine make great points...Junior feeds on the cupcakes on our schedule and fasts vs. BCS-type teams.

Also, unlike rebounds and baskets made, assists can be a very subjective stat that's purely up to the discretion of the person keeping the books. I think Junior benefits from a benevolent MU stats crew. He seems to gets a lot of homecooking from them.
Title: Re: [PaintTouches]Comparing Cadougan’s Novembers
Post by: MU82 on December 05, 2012, 02:48:06 PM
Junior only had 1 turnover in 25 minutes while playing a huge positive role in Marquette's defeat of Syracuse in the '11 NCAAs. Also 15 points 5 assists 1 TO in BE tourney game against West Virginia that likely got us into the NCAAs that year.

6 assists 1 TO against Washington last year. 6 assists 1 TO in last year's BE opener vs Nova (before we knew Nova sucked). 5 assists 1 TO against Cinci. 4 assists 1 TO in NCAA win vs. Murray State. 7 assists 1 TO against Duke his soph year.

Yes, I had to look pretty closely to find Junior's good games against good competition. But he has had them, meaning he should be able to do it again -- especially now that he's a senior leader.

What I am getting sick of hearing is dopey announcers saying that Buzz "wouldn't trade Junior for any point guard in the country." That's absolutely ridiculous. Even if Buzz himself said it to make Junior feel good.
Title: Re: [PaintTouches]Comparing Cadougan’s Novembers
Post by: bilsu on December 05, 2012, 04:14:52 PM
Without actually doing a detailed analysis, it would seem to me that Cadougan was more likely to get an assist with DJO at the 2g vs having Vander at the 2g. Since I see most of Locketts baskets coming off rebounds he does not create assist opportunities for Cadougan either. Cadougan's assists are down because DJO and Crowder are gone.
Title: Re: [PaintTouches]Comparing Cadougan’s Novembers
Post by: MU82 on December 05, 2012, 07:23:39 PM
Quote from: bilsu on December 05, 2012, 04:14:52 PM
Without actually doing a detailed analysis, it would seem to me that Cadougan was more likely to get an assist with DJO at the 2g vs having Vander at the 2g. Since I see most of Locketts baskets coming off rebounds he does not create assist opportunities for Cadougan either. Cadougan's assists are down because DJO and Crowder are gone.

That's fair. But it still doesn't explain his many silly turnovers. Throwing the ball out of bounds or right to a defender, for example.

I don't mean to pick on Junior, but he simply is too important to the team to be doing that stuff.
Title: Re: [PaintTouches]Comparing Cadougan’s Novembers
Post by: tower912 on December 05, 2012, 07:56:20 PM
Another player struggling with the transition from supporting role player to leader.    Like JWilson.   They need to improve.    I am pretty sure Buzz is telling them that this week. 
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