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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: Benny B on November 27, 2012, 10:00:00 AM

Title: Was UMBC Blacked Out in Your Area?
Post by: Benny B on November 27, 2012, 10:00:00 AM
In an effort to improve the collective knowledge base for televised games and blackouts, I am curious as to who - amongst non-Time Warner subscribers - was and wasn't blacked out of the UMBC game last night.  If you are not a Time Warner subscriber in Wisconsin, I would appreciate if you could answer the following:

1) Were you blacked out?
2) Your cable/satellite provider
3) Your location/DMA (city/state)
4) What channel/website (SNY, Full Court, ESPN3, WatchESPN)

Future out-of-market viewers of MU games thank you for your input.
Title: Re: Was UMBC Blacked Out in Your Area?
Post by: MerrittsMustache on November 27, 2012, 10:28:41 AM
1) Were you blacked out? Yes
2) Your cable/satellite provider AT&T
3) Your location/DMA (city/state) Whitefish Bay, WI
4) What channel/website (SNY, Full Court, ESPN3, WatchESPN) ESPN3

I was able to watch the game on thefirstrow.eu
Title: Re: Was UMBC Blacked Out in Your Area?
Post by: Biggworm on November 27, 2012, 10:34:04 AM
1) Were you blacked out? - No
2) Your cable/satellite provider - Comcast
3) Your location/DMA (city/state) - Chicago, IL
4) What channel/website (SNY, Full Court, ESPN3, WatchESPN) - SNY & ESPN3
Title: Re: Was UMBC Blacked Out in Your Area?
Post by: AZWarrior on November 27, 2012, 10:37:01 AM
1) Were you blacked out?  no
2) Your cable/satellite provider  DirecTV
3) Your location/DMA (city/state)  PHX, AZ
4) What channel/website (SNY, Full Court, ESPN3, WatchESPN)   SNY
Title: Re: Was UMBC Blacked Out in Your Area?
Post by: starting5 on November 27, 2012, 10:38:39 AM
1) Were you blacked out? Yes
2) Your cable/satellite provider DirecTV
3) Your location/DMA (city/state) Sheboygan Falls, wi
4) What channel/website (SNY, Full Court, ESPN3, WatchESPN) SNY & espn3


In years past the nonconference games have been blacked out on SNY for me but once the BE conference games start then they are not.
I was told it has to do with TW32 producing the game instead of the BE network

Title: Re: Was UMBC Blacked Out in Your Area?
Post by: MU B2002 on November 27, 2012, 10:38:48 AM
1) Were you blacked out? No.
2) Your cable/satellite provider? Directv
3) Your location/DMA (city/state) Jacksonville, FL
4) What channel/website (SNY, Full Court, ESPN3, WatchESPN): SNY, ESPN3
Title: Re: Was UMBC Blacked Out in Your Area?
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on November 27, 2012, 10:47:35 AM
Quote from: Benny B on November 27, 2012, 10:00:00 AM
In an effort to improve the collective knowledge base for televised games and blackouts, I am curious as to who - amongst non-Time Warner subscribers - was and wasn't blacked out of the UMBC game last night.  If you are not a Time Warner subscriber in Wisconsin, I would appreciate if you could answer the following:

1) Were you blacked out?
2) Your cable/satellite provider
3) Your location/DMA (city/state)
4) What channel/website (SNY, Full Court, ESPN3, WatchESPN)

Future out-of-market viewers of MU games thank you for your input.



1) Were you blacked out? - NO
2) Your cable/satellite provider - Cablevision (Optimum)
3) Your location/DMA (city/state) - Connecticut
4) What channel/website (SNY, Full Court, ESPN3, WatchESPN) - SNY
Title: Re: Was UMBC Blacked Out in Your Area?
Post by: onetime on November 27, 2012, 10:48:54 AM
1) Were you blacked out? Yes
2) Your cable/satellite provider Directv
3) Your location/DMA (city/state) Muskego
4) What channel/website (SNY, Full Court, ESPN3, WatchESPN) SNY/MASN

Probably the only game of the season ESPN Fullcourt package through DTV would have been necessary
Title: Re: Was UMBC Blacked Out in Your Area?
Post by: Hards Alumni on November 27, 2012, 10:50:47 AM
1) Were you blacked out? - NO
2) Your cable/satellite provider - Charter Communications
3) Your location/DMA (city/state) - Deforest (Basically Madison), WI
4) What channel/website (SNY, Full Court, ESPN3, WatchESPN) - I watched online at espn3
Title: Re: Was UMBC Blacked Out in Your Area?
Post by: mu03eng on November 27, 2012, 10:53:31 AM
1) Were you blacked out? Yes
2) Your cable/satellite provider ATT Uverse
3) Your location/DMA (city/state)  New Berlin, Wi
4) What channel/website (SNY, Full Court, ESPN3, WatchESPN)  ESPN3
Title: Re: Was UMBC Blacked Out in Your Area?
Post by: reinko on November 27, 2012, 11:06:57 AM
1) Were you blacked out? Nope
2) Your cable/satellite provider: DirecTV
3) Your location/DMA Medford, MA (basically Boston)
4) What channel/website: SNY


Title: Re: Was UMBC Blacked Out in Your Area?
Post by: CTWarrior on November 27, 2012, 11:09:02 AM
1) Were you blacked out? No
2) Your cable/satellite provider  Optimum (Cablevision of South CT)
3) Your location/DMA (city/state)  Stratford, CT
4) What channel/website (SNY, Full Court, ESPN3, WatchESPN)  SNY
Title: Re: Was UMBC Blacked Out in Your Area?
Post by: nyg on November 27, 2012, 11:18:14 AM
1) Were you blacked out?  NO
2) Your cable/satellite provider  Direct TV
3) Your location/DMA (city/state) Annapolis Md.
4) What channel/website (SNY, Full Court, ESPN3, WatchESPN)  SNY, Full Court
Title: Re: Was UMBC Blacked Out in Your Area?
Post by: Dawson Rental on November 27, 2012, 11:22:31 AM
1) Were you blacked out?  No
2) Your cable/satellite provider  WOW
3) Your location/DMA (city/state)  Mount Prospect, IL
4) What channel/website (SNY, Full Court, ESPN3, WatchESPN)  ESPN3
Title: Re: Was UMBC Blacked Out in Your Area?
Post by: LloydMooresLegs on November 27, 2012, 12:00:29 PM
Quote from: Biggworm on November 27, 2012, 10:34:04 AM
1) Were you blacked out? - No
2) Your cable/satellite provider - Comcast
3) Your location/DMA (city/state) - Chicago, IL
4) What channel/website (SNY, Full Court, ESPN3, WatchESPN) - SNY & ESPN3

Same,  but I did not check SNY and just watched it on ESPN3
Title: Re: Was UMBC Blacked Out in Your Area?
Post by: BM1090 on November 27, 2012, 12:08:58 PM
1) Were you blacked out?  Yes
2) Your cable/satellite provider  DirectTV
3) Your location/DMA (city/state)  Whitewater, WI
4) What channel/website (SNY, Full Court, ESPN3, WatchESPN)  Was blacked out on all the above because I am in the Time Warner area.
Title: Re: Was UMBC Blacked Out in Your Area?
Post by: jfmu on November 27, 2012, 12:11:49 PM
Quote from: Benny B on November 27, 2012, 10:00:00 AM
In an effort to improve the collective knowledge base for televised games and blackouts, I am curious as to who - amongst non-Time Warner subscribers - was and wasn't blacked out of the UMBC game last night.  If you are not a Time Warner subscriber in Wisconsin, I would appreciate if you could answer the following:

1) Were you blacked out? NO
2) Your cable/satellite provider DIRECT TV (with Sports Pack)
3) Your location/DMA (city/state) Arlington Heights, IL
4) What channel/website (SNY, Full Court, ESPN3, WatchESPN) SNY

Future out-of-market viewers of MU games thank you for your input.

Title: Re: Was UMBC Blacked Out in Your Area?
Post by: MileHigh on November 27, 2012, 12:23:11 PM
1) Were you blacked out? Yes
2) Your cable/satellite provider Comcast
3) Your location/DMA (city/state) Indianapolis, IN
4) What channel/website (SNY, Full Court, ESPN3, WatchESPN) SNY

On SNY there is an overlay screen that says game is available for purchase on a pay per view station.  Turned on ESPN3 and the game worked fine.
Title: Re: Was UMBC Blacked Out in Your Area?
Post by: Benny B on November 27, 2012, 12:37:55 PM
Quote from: INDYWarrior on November 27, 2012, 12:23:11 PM
1) Were you blacked out? Yes
2) Your cable/satellite provider Comcast
3) Your location/DMA (city/state) Indianapolis, IN
4) What channel/website (SNY, Full Court, ESPN3, WatchESPN) SNY

On SNY there is an overlay screen that says game is available for purchase on a pay per view station.  Turned on ESPN3 and the game worked fine.

Extremely interesting.... this is exactly what I'm looking for since Indy is not supposed to be a blackout area.  Of course, I assume your Comcast subscription normally includes SNY?

Anybody else blacked out in Naptown last night?
Title: Re: Was UMBC Blacked Out in Your Area?
Post by: MileHigh on November 27, 2012, 12:49:38 PM
Quote from: Benny B on November 27, 2012, 12:37:55 PM
Extremely interesting.... this is exactly what I'm looking for since Indy is not supposed to be a blackout area.  Of course, I assume your Comcast subscription normally includes SNY?

Anybody else blacked out in Naptown last night?

This happened numerous times last year in Indy.  I think it was a Pittsburgh-Providence game on before the Marquette game, I set the DVR, that game went long.  So it recorded the end of that game, then when the switch was made, this overlay screen appeared.

I don't even bother with SNY (channel 266 I think), I've called Comcast before and complained and they never give a straight answer.  Anyways, WatchESPN app plus Apple TV airplay...problem solved.
Title: Re: Was UMBC Blacked Out in Your Area?
Post by: Skatastrophy on November 27, 2012, 12:53:00 PM
Quote from: INDYWarrior on November 27, 2012, 12:49:38 PM
This happened numerous times last year in Indy.  I think it was a Pittsburgh-Providence game on before the Marquette game, I set the DVR, that game went long.  So it recorded the end of that game, then when the switch was made, this overlay screen appeared.

I don't even bother with SNY (channel 266 I think), I've called Comcast before and complained and they never give a straight answer.  Anyways, WatchESPN app plus Apple TV airplay...problem solved.

Maybe Comcast considers you Chicago?
Title: Re: Was UMBC Blacked Out in Your Area?
Post by: dgies9156 on November 27, 2012, 12:54:24 PM
Quote from: Benny B on November 27, 2012, 12:37:55 PM
Extremely interesting.... this is exactly what I'm looking for since Indy is not supposed to be a blackout area.  Of course, I assume your Comcast subscription normally includes SNY?

Anybody else blacked out in Naptown last night?

This happened several times in Chicago last year (Libertyville, to be precise).

Title: Re: Was UMBC Blacked Out in Your Area?
Post by: rjclarkmu on November 27, 2012, 01:18:11 PM
1) Were you blacked out? No
2) Your cable/satellite provider Comcast Xfinity
3) Your location/DMA (city/state): Denver, CO
4) What channel/website (SNY, Full Court, ESPN3, WatchESPN): WatchESPN
Title: Re: Was UMBC Blacked Out in Your Area?
Post by: Litehouse on November 27, 2012, 02:15:07 PM
1) Were you blacked out? No
2) Your cable/satellite provider Charter
3) Your location/DMA (city/state): Sheboygan, WI
4) What channel/website (SNY, Full Court, ESPN3, WatchESPN): ESPN3

I was surprised it wasn't blacked out on ESPN3, since TW32 games have usually been blacked out on there in the past.
Title: Re: Was UMBC Blacked Out in Your Area?
Post by: mr.MUskie on November 27, 2012, 03:16:03 PM
1) Were you blacked out?  NO
2) Your cable/satellite provider  WOW
3) Your location/DMA (city/state)  SCHAUMBURG, IL
4) What channel/website (SNY, Full Court, ESPN3, WatchESPN)  ESPN3
Title: Re: Was UMBC Blacked Out in Your Area?
Post by: classof70 on November 27, 2012, 04:15:43 PM
Quote from: Benny B on November 27, 2012, 10:00:00 AM
In an effort to improve the collective knowledge base for televised games and blackouts, I am curious as to who - amongst non-Time Warner subscribers - was and wasn't blacked out of the UMBC game last night.  If you are not a Time Warner subscriber in Wisconsin, I would appreciate if you could answer the following:

1) Were you blacked out? NO
2) Your cable/satellite provider DIRECT
3) Your location/DMA (city/state) St. Louis
4) What channel/website (SNY, Full Court, ESPN3, WatchESPN) SNY--I think.

Future out-of-market viewers of MU games thank you for your input.

Title: Re: Was UMBC Blacked Out in Your Area?
Post by: Frenns Liquor Depot on November 27, 2012, 06:38:37 PM
1) Were you blacked out? NO
2) Your cable/satellite provider Comcast
3) Your location/DMA (city/state) CT
4) What channel/website (SNY, Full Court, ESPN3, WatchESPN) SNY
Title: Re: Was UMBC Blacked Out in Your Area?
Post by: GO_MU02 on November 27, 2012, 06:59:31 PM
1) Were you blacked out? YES
2) Your cable/satellite provider Comcast
3) Your location/DMA (city/state) Springfield, IL
4) What channel/website (SNY, Full Court, ESPN3, WatchESPN) SNY

2nd time this year that its been blacked out.  Glad I'm paying extra every month to have access to SNY and ESPNU.  Comcast sucks.
Title: Re: Was UMBC Blacked Out in Your Area?
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on November 27, 2012, 07:07:46 PM
This is driven by 3 digit and 5 digit zip code authorizations.  Each distributor is told in advance what zip codes (first three digits or to a the full 5) that need to be excluded from receiving the broadcast.

It is up to the distributors to execute that properly which doesn't always happen.  I've also seen cases where the rights holder (i.e. TWC) says a game should be blacked out and the distributor has flat out told them to pound sand because of interpretation of the broadcast rights.

Those that are blacked out in the Wisconsin zip codes around Milwaukee is not a surprise as TWC effectively bought those rights and they are saying if you want to watch MU games, you must subscribe to their service.  How far out they have purchased rights for, defined as a core territory, is what is unknown.  The fact that some Indy people didn't get the game sounds to me like operator (distributor) error more than likely because it would be highly improbable that TWC's core territory extends that far.

I wrote this back in 2010, but much of it pertains today.

http://www.crackedsidewalks.com/2010/11/television-blackouts-in-wisconsin-for.html

Title: Re: Was UMBC Blacked Out in Your Area?
Post by: MU82 on November 27, 2012, 07:11:28 PM
Watched it on ESPN3 in N.C.
Title: Re: Was UMBC Blacked Out in Your Area?
Post by: 77ncaachamps on November 28, 2012, 02:00:01 AM

1) Were you blacked out? NO
2) Your cable/satellite provider. AT&T
3) Your location/DMA (city/state). SAN JOSE, CA
4) What channel/website (SNY, Full Court, ESPN3, WatchESPN). ESPN3
Title: Re: Was UMBC Blacked Out in Your Area?
Post by: Benny B on November 28, 2012, 09:05:32 AM
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on November 27, 2012, 07:07:46 PM
This is driven by 3 digit and 5 digit zip code authorizations.  Each distributor is told in advance what zip codes (first three digits or to a the full 5) that need to be excluded from receiving the broadcast.

It is up to the distributors to execute that properly which doesn't always happen.  I've also seen cases where the rights holder (i.e. TWC) says a game should be blacked out and the distributor has flat out told them to pound sand because of interpretation of the broadcast rights.

...

The fact that some Indy people didn't get the game sounds to me like operator (distributor) error more than likely because it would be highly improbable that TWC's core territory does not extends that far.



Fixed the second part for you.

As to the first part, blacking out a game does not sound like a passive activity.  To black out a game in Indianapolis - for instance - someone actually has to flip a switch, push a button, type some code... something that will "activate" the blackout.  It's not as though the feed comes through the system to the cable operator with a blackout already attached (making it up to the cable operator to "remove" the blackout).  If such is the case, and assuming that ESPN's own blackout maps are accurate, then would it not be fair to say that someone at Comcast is voluntarily - but incorrectly - applying blackouts to Springfield and Indy?
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