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Title: How could Illinois all the sudden be so much better than us
Post by: KenoshaWarrior on November 22, 2012, 10:38:16 AM
They beat a USC team that we only beat by 8 by 30 points
and beat Butler by 20 points a team we lost to by 1.
After seeing Illinois Dominate i am concerned about this team
Title: Re: How could Illinois all the sudden be so much better than us
Post by: Silkk the Shaka on November 22, 2012, 10:40:58 AM
I'm concerned about your command of the English language.
Title: Re: How could Illinois all the sudden be so much better than us
Post by: Aughnanure on November 22, 2012, 10:50:46 AM
So North Carolina should be even more worried?
Title: Re: How could Illinois all the sudden be so much better than us
Post by: Sawsi on November 22, 2012, 10:54:15 AM
Quote from: KenoshaWarrior on November 22, 2012, 10:38:16 AM
They beat a USC team that we only beat by 8 by 30 points
and beat Butler by 20 points a team we lost to by 1.
After seeing Illinois Dominate i am concerned about this team

Is this a Halloween post?  If so, I am terrified!
Title: Re: How could Illinois all the sudden be so much better than us
Post by: MU_Beav on November 22, 2012, 11:24:41 AM
Quote from: KenoshaWarrior on November 22, 2012, 10:38:16 AM
They beat a USC team that we only beat by 8 by 30 points
and beat Butler by 20 points a team we lost to by 1.
After seeing Illinois Dominate i am concerned about this team

Wow.  Well, they've always had talent - Richardson and Paul are really good and were pretty highly recruited.  A lot of factors here - it's a long season, Groce's defense/offensive schemes differ greatly from Webber's, and Butler was realllllly tired.  Marquette's gonna be okay...
Title: Re: How could Illinois all the sudden be so much better than us
Post by: MUfan12 on November 22, 2012, 11:26:15 AM
Quote from: KenoshaWarrior on November 22, 2012, 10:38:16 AM
They beat a USC team that we only beat by 8 by 30 points
and beat Butler by 20 points a team we lost to by 1.
After seeing Illinois Dominate i am concerned about this team

The transitive property of basketball scores. Always reliable.
Title: Re: How could Illinois all the sudden be so much better than us
Post by: Warrior2008 on November 22, 2012, 11:51:04 AM
Quote from: KenoshaWarrior on November 22, 2012, 10:38:16 AM
They beat a USC team that we only beat by 8 by 30 points
and beat Butler by 20 points a team we lost to by 1.
After seeing Illinois Dominate i am concerned about this team

Well by your same logic, Illinois beat Colgate 75-55. We beat Colgate 84-63. Are we 1 point better than Illinois?

Point is, every game is different and all that matters are W's.
Title: Re: How could Illinois all the sudden be so much better than us
Post by: GoldenZebra on November 22, 2012, 11:58:01 AM
Who cares how much Illinois beat those teams by? The transitive property in basketball is NONEXISTENT.
Title: Re: How could Illinois all the sudden be so much better than us
Post by: bilsu on November 22, 2012, 12:13:37 PM
They are hot right now. It remains to be seen how long it lasts.
Title: Re: How could Illinois all the sudden be so much better than us
Post by: MuMark on November 22, 2012, 12:27:59 PM
Illinois always had lots of talent. They now are a veteran team with a new coach.

They could be very good this year(although the big 10 will test them big time)....that doesn't mean we won't be good.

ps. they are killing teams with the 3 pointer. 4 guys on the floor at virtually all times who can shoot it.
Title: Re: How could Illinois all the sudden be so much better than us
Post by: wildbillsb on November 22, 2012, 12:34:14 PM
Quote from: GoldenZebra on November 22, 2012, 11:58:01 AM
Who cares how much Illinois beat those teams by? The transitive property in basketball is NONEXISTENT.

But in English grammar, it is my understanding that a "transitive" verb is followed by a direct object.  Just asking.

Fixed.
Title: Re: How could Illinois all the sudden be so much better than us
Post by: Dawson Rental on November 22, 2012, 12:38:39 PM
Quote from: wildbillsb on November 22, 2012, 12:34:14 PM
But in English grammar, it is my understanding that a "transitive" verb is followed by a direct object.  Just asking.

Fixed.

What you say is true.

However, previous posters are referring to a different meaning of transitive, a mathematical concept, to wit.

Transitive Property of Equality

The following property: If a = b and b = c, then a = c. One of the equivalence properties of equality.

Note: This is a property of equality and inequalities. One must be cautious, however, when attempting to develop arguments using the transitive property in other settings.

Here is an example of an unsound application of the transitive property: "Team A defeated team B, and team B defeated team C. Therefore, team A will defeat team C."
Title: Re: How could Illinois all the sudden be so much better than us
Post by: Dawson Rental on November 22, 2012, 12:42:58 PM
Quote from: MuMark on November 22, 2012, 12:27:59 PM
Illinois always had lots of talent. They now are a veteran team with a new coach.

They could be very good this year(although the big 10 will test them big time)....that doesn't mean we won't be good.

ps. they are killing teams with the 3 pointer. 4 guys on the floor at virtually all times who can shoot it.

And the winning answer is... This.
Title: Re: How could Illinois all the sudden be so much better than us
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on November 22, 2012, 12:44:10 PM
Kenosha, do us all a favor and go play chicken with an oncoming semi.
Title: Re: How could Illinois all the sudden be so much better than us
Post by: jsglow on November 22, 2012, 12:55:46 PM
I'll simply say that Illinois looks pretty good.  And if I were one of those Bucky haters I'd want them to crush the Badgers.  Oh wait..... that'll impact our RPI.... Oh the conflict.....
Title: Re: How could Illinois all the sudden be so much better than us
Post by: GoldenZebra on November 22, 2012, 01:06:20 PM
Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on November 22, 2012, 12:44:10 PM
Kenosha, do us all a favor and go play chicken with an oncoming semi.
hmm thats not very nice. Point is, its so early in the season, that some teams will get hot, especially with a veteran squad with talent...I would rather get hot in late Feb and March rather than now. Win to learn from it, lose to learn from it, dominate when it counts.
Title: Re: How could Illinois all the sudden be so much better than us
Post by: We R Final Four on November 22, 2012, 01:11:33 PM
Quote from: Jajuannaman on November 22, 2012, 10:40:58 AM
I'm concerned about your command of the English language.

I'm still laughing--that was great.
Title: Re: How could Illinois all the sudden be so much better than us
Post by: lab_warrior on November 22, 2012, 03:52:30 PM
Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on November 22, 2012, 12:44:10 PM
Kenosha, do us all a favor and go play chicken with an oncoming semi.

+1

Each post by Kenosha, every one more pointless and stupid than the last.
Title: Re: How could Illinois all the sudden be so much better than us
Post by: IrwinFletcher on November 22, 2012, 06:35:12 PM
Are we talking about the same Illinois team that beat Hawaii by a point?
Title: Re: How could Illinois all the sudden be so much better than us
Post by: MU82 on November 22, 2012, 09:32:47 PM
First, to reach an "Illinois is so much better than Marquette" conclusion based upon a few games is silly.

Second, as a guy who lived in Chicago for years and was very into the state sports scene, I can assure you that for the last few years, Illinois fans have been wondering: "How could Marquette all of a sudden be so much better than us?"
Title: Re: How could Illinois all the sudden be so much better than us
Post by: kclem on November 23, 2012, 10:59:20 AM
One legitimate reason to worry is that they beat us out for the recruitment of Kendrick Nunn and we may compete with them in the future for IL prospects.
Title: Re: How could Illinois all the sudden be so much better than us
Post by: Tugg Speedman on November 23, 2012, 11:02:28 AM
Quote from: kclem on November 23, 2012, 10:59:20 AM
One legitimate reason to worry is that they beat us out for the recruitment of Kendrick Nunn and we may compete with them in the future for IL prospects.

Nunn went to Illinois because they had more playing time to offer his freshman year.  Illinois will not have as much to offer future Kendrick Nunns once they get better recruits.
Title: Re: How could Illinois all the sudden be so much better than us
Post by: pbiflyer on November 23, 2012, 11:16:50 AM
Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on November 22, 2012, 12:44:10 PM
Kenosha, do us all a favor and go play chicken with an oncoming semi.
A tribute to Kenosha.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gYoGIv_BwY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gYoGIv_BwY)
Title: Re: How could Illinois all the sudden be so much better than us
Post by: Silkk the Shaka on November 23, 2012, 12:02:05 PM
Quote from: kclem on November 23, 2012, 10:59:20 AM
One legitimate reason to worry is that they beat us out for the recruitment of Kendrick Nunn and we may compete with them in the future for IL prospects.

We also stole Isaac Chew from them and didn't blink an eye after losing out on Nunn, grabbing JaJuan Johnson and John Dawson. JJ is probably an equal if not better option, and time will telll with Dawson. Not worried about them in the least.
Title: Re: How could Illinois all the sudden be so much better than us
Post by: unforgiven on November 23, 2012, 12:08:47 PM
Quote from: kclem on November 23, 2012, 10:59:20 AM
One legitimate reason to worry is that they beat us out for the recruitment of Kendrick Nunn and we may compete with them in the future for IL prospects.

It would be better to have a vastly improved DePaul
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