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Title: [Cracked Sidewalks] Gardner No. 1 Offensive Rebounder in the Country according to Pomeroy
Post by: CrackedSidewalksSays on November 20, 2012, 09:15:04 PM
Gardner No. 1 Offensive Rebounder in the Country according to Pomeroy

Written by: noreply@blogger.com (bamamarquettefan1)

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RankPlayerTeamHtWtYrOR%[/tr]
1Davante GardnerMarquette6-8290Jr29.1
2Dante TaylorPittsburgh6-9235Sr27.4
3Anthony BennettNevada Las Vegas6-8240Fr24.2
4Reggie JohnsonMiami FL6-10292Sr24.0
5Ronald RobertsSaint Joseph's6-8220Jr23.4
Even BEFORE grabbing 8 offensive rebounds in just 22 minutes today in the 89-62 win over Mississippi State, Davante Gardner was rated as the best offensive rebounder in the country by Pomeroy (http://www.kenpom.com/) (please sign on and pay your $20 subscription for the year!).

For those who haven't seen these numbers before, the rating above indicates that 29.1% of the time Marquette missed a shot in their first three games Gardner grabbed the rebound.  Last year only two players (Thomas Robinson of Kansas and Andre Roberson of Colorado) grabbed a higher percentage of misses ON DEFENSE.  Last year Jack Cooley of Notre Dame had the highest offensive percentage of any BCS conference player at 16.7% - a little over half of what Gardner did through three games.

Obviously Gardner's number will drop, but amazing to see the numbers he is putting up.

More on today's action after the conclusion of the Butler-UNC game tonight, which is helping to put last night's one-point loss in perspective.

http://www.crackedsidewalks.com/2012/11/gardner-no-1-offensive-rebounder-in.html
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Gardner No. 1 Offensive Rebounder in the Country according to Pomeroy
Post by: AZWarrior on November 20, 2012, 09:49:29 PM
Posters on this board have repeatedly pointed out that many of DG's offensive rebounds are of his own missed shots. 

I wish to point out that those are NOT missed shots.  They are actually cunningly tactical passes to himself, quite often resulting in a score.   ;D
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Gardner No. 1 Offensive Rebounder in the Country according to Pomeroy
Post by: TallTitan34 on November 20, 2012, 10:21:11 PM
On the post game show Buzz said he doesn't count offensive rebounds if they are missed shots from under five feet.
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Gardner No. 1 Offensive Rebounder in the Country according to Pomeroy
Post by: GoldenZebra on November 20, 2012, 10:28:43 PM
Regardless if they are his missed shots or not, seeing a player get offensive rebound after offensive rebound gets into the opponent's head...its good Davante is soo good at it.
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Gardner No. 1 Offensive Rebounder in the Country according to Pomeroy
Post by: tower912 on November 20, 2012, 10:41:52 PM
How many are off of his own miss?
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Gardner No. 1 Offensive Rebounder in the Country according to Pomeroy
Post by: bamamarquettefan on November 20, 2012, 10:59:37 PM
The point guards in the country insist they count as misses, because if they don't then Gardner will lead the nation in assists (all to himself).
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Gardner No. 1 Offensive Rebounder in the Country according to Pomeroy
Post by: chapman on November 20, 2012, 11:11:57 PM
Well at least he follows his misses and is relentless in seeing that the ball eventually gets in the hoop.  It's not like everyone else on that list is only getting their teammates' bricks and not their own as well.
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Gardner No. 1 Offensive Rebounder in the Country according to Pomeroy
Post by: AZWarrior on November 20, 2012, 11:33:47 PM
Quote from: bamamarquettefan on November 20, 2012, 10:59:37 PM
The point guards in the country insist they count as misses, because if they don't then Gardner will lead the nation in assists (all to himself).

Yeah - but they have a conflict of interest.....   ;)
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Gardner No. 1 Offensive Rebounder in the Country according to Pomeroy
Post by: forgetful on November 21, 2012, 12:15:19 AM
Quote from: chapman on November 20, 2012, 11:11:57 PM
Well at least he follows his misses and is relentless in seeing that the ball eventually gets in the hoop.  It's not like everyone else on that list is only getting their teammates' bricks and not their own as well.

I just wish he showed the same aggressive attitude playing D and grabbing defensive rebounds. He's been better this year but still needs to improve.
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Gardner No. 1 Offensive Rebounder in the Country according to Pomeroy
Post by: bilsu on November 21, 2012, 09:07:36 AM
Quote from: tower912 on November 20, 2012, 10:41:52 PM
How many are off of his own miss?
He gets a lot off of his own misses, but that is the amazing part of his offense. He gets in such good shot position that he is in position to rebound his misses. It also gives a strong indication that he knows where the shot is going, if it is not going in. Instead of down grading him for it, you should be giving him credit for being able to excel at this.
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